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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Vudak on January 04, 2007, 12:14:55 AM
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I was thinking back on some of the advice my father's given me throughout life, and I was wondering what your father taught you. It doesn't matter if you've taken the advice (I have to assume most of us had that phase where we didn't take any of it). Just what are the interesting ideas that have been passed onto you by your old man?
A few notables from my dear ol' dad:
"Never trust a guy who didn't play sports."
"When brothers fight, what can any man do." - here he'd always be quoting the movie, El Cid , but it was sage advice, and some I really wish I would have bothered to take. My kids will hear this one too.
"If you play with the big kids, you're going to get hurt. But you'll get damn good, too." (I think some AHers could use this advice, IMO).
"You'll never feel bad about yourself for trying to do the right thing."
And, he always quotes my uncle Steve (well, really his best friend)...
"There's only two things worth doing in life - ****ing and fishing... And every time I get married, I get a double dose of fishing."
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A few months before his passing my father told me something I will never forget:
"If you want to give me flowers do so now while I can enjoy them"
To me that meant:
Take the oportunity to say the nice things, do the nice things to those you appreciate now, not when it's too late.
Mark
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Make a decision. If you sit on the fence, you'll get shot at from Both sides.
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The advice that I remember most is always sleep on an angry letter before mailing it. Some others:
Never take anything home from work that isn't yours.
Have respect for women and be good to your mother.
Never belittle another man.
Don't fly off the handle when you're full of it.
When I was a kid he told me if another boy called me a sissy, to stay there and "we'll see who the sissy is." To fight him if necessary.
Always do your best. Don't worry about the outcome so much as trying your best.
Winston Churchill was the man my Dad admired most. He would often say to me, never, never, never, never ever give up.
Les
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Originally posted by Leslie
Never belittle another man.
Gawd I wish I could really listen to this, but some people make it too damn hard. I can always take Churchill's advice, and never stop trying!
BTW, good advice Leslie.
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My father wasn't around for my childhood. However, my grandfather was. That old farmer taught me many things that are still true today, such as:
Any job that's worth doing should be given your very best effort.
No lie is ever the best option.
A gold plated dog pile may be pretty, but it's still a worthless piece of crap.
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1) If you take a mans pay, show up on time and do the job ... right or wrong ... do it exactly the way he wants it.
2) The best man in the world is worthless when he is not on the job.
3) Being to stupid to realize that it couldn't be done ... I just went ahead and did it.
4) Never blame a man for being smarter than you ... it ain't his fault.
Just four I remember right off hand ... my old man was a gold mine of down on the farm proverbs.
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"If you don't know knots, just tie lots."
My dad would never say that (he used to work on the North Sea, did a lot of really deep diving, and rope skill was a bit of a requirement), but I told him that I was attributing it to him once. He expressed concern. I don't actually tell folks he said it, but we both enjoyed the joke.
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"ALWAYS pay yourself first, before you pay others" (regarding finances)
"You, and only you, are responsible for every action you do. You will either be successful or you will fail and learn from it."
"Whatever you become in life, whether it be a ditch digger, or a CEO, ALWAYS do the best job that you can."
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He said a lot of great stuff, but the one that used to confuse the heck outta me was when we were working in the garage. He was always doing some project or another, and he'd let me help (usually it was "hold that end of the wood") but he would always say...
"Let the tool do the work".
While i was cutting a 2x6 with a hand saw this seemed kinda silly. I would have loved to let the stupid saw do the stupid cutting! My arm hurt!
I figured it out eventually though.
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Mine Dad is still around, still giving good advice....and some that makes my eyes roll.
But among the things he's said over and over...that turn out to be great...
1) Remember the golden rule. Treat people as you want to be treated
2) Common sense isn't necessarily common.
3) Don't worry about what other people are doing, worry about yourself (meaning, focus on your goals, not what other people are/aren't doing)
4) Never get into a pissing contest with a skunk
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My father gave me this great advice:
"Don't **** up."
Another person told me this:
"If you stop getting better, you stop being good."
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1)Always lead never follow
2) Never be intimidated by anybody, in God's eyes everybody is the same
Although not very religious now, the 2nd one really helps every now and again.
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if a group of bullies are going to kick your arse allways kick the biggest one in the nuts first. this will do 3 things #1 make the rest of them think twice #2 it will give you a chance to kick the rest of them in the nuts. #3 it will give you a chance to run.
finally if you do get your arse kicked remember who they are so you can kick them in the nuts one at a time when the odds are better.
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My father is still around but has never really given me any noteworthy advice. My grandfather has given me plenty. Most notable for me are these...
"A handshake is as good as a written contract."
"Blood is thicker than water."
"When it all comes down to it, family will be the only thing you have."
"Never cheat at anything. Cheaters and thieves are the same.
Sadly, I don't see much of any of this advice being followed in todays times.
Stealing, lying, and cheating seem almost socially acceptable today.
Lastly, I love this quote of Mark Twain.
"If you take in a starving dog and feed him, he will never betray you. This is the principle difference between man and dog."
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Never do it with a woman you wouldn't marry.
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"You'll never be anything unless you want to be"
That and a bunch of other political stuff.
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There were several sayings he used to repeat:
1. Never look a gift horse in the mouth.
2. Never play another mans game (and expect to win).
3. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
4. Money won't buy happiness, but it's nice to have.
5. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
6. Never get a tatoo.
7. Go to college and get an education.
8. Always do your best.
9. If you are going to be in the military, try to become a commissioned officer.
10. A person is known by the company they keep.
Regards,
Malta
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Originally posted by stantond
6. Never get a tatoo.
Out of smoking, drugs, dropping out of high school, getting arrested, and all the other dumb stuff I've pulled, THAT is the ONE thing I never hear the end about!
From my mother though. My father really doesn't care.
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The father of one of my good friends
"Never grow anything you cant eat or smoke."
"No matter what you decide to do or become. Strive to be the best.
Even if you decide to become a ditchdigger. Be the best damn ditchdigger there is." --My father
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Originally posted by Vudak
"Never trust a guy who didn't play sports."
What kind of pathetic advice is that?
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It's good advice. Did you play sports, Benny?
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No, I did not. I am hostile towards those who shove sports in my face, make a big fuss over them, and insist that they're important. I really resent the implication that persons such as myself who perceive the true value of sports are dishonest or unmanly. I'd like to put forth the counterclaim that those who make a large deal of sports are boorish brutes with underdeveloped brains.
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"to come second, is like coming last, never come second"
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
No, I did not. I am hostile towards those who shove sports in my face, make a big fuss over them, and insist that they're important. I really resent the implication that persons such as myself who perceive the true value of sports are dishonest or unmanly. I'd like to put forth the counterclaim that those who make a large deal of sports are boorish brutes with underdeveloped brains.
Kinda proves Vudak's Dad's point.
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There is only one thing in this life that is truely yours, and that is your name use it wisely.
If you are going to do something do it to the best of your ability, or don't do it at all. (I'm not sure this one would work with todays kids as they just wouldn't do anything.)
If you want something you have to work for it.
If you work hard enough you can achieve anything.
My dad is still alive and I think he is one of the greatest men to walk this earth. (of course I am a little biased:D ) He is a high school drop out that served his country in Korea earned his BS degree in electrical engineering in 3yrs. Was the lead engineer on Apollo 13 LIM for GE. As well as working on the F111, and F16 for GD. Raised three kids that all became productive members of society, yeah I'm including myself.
SIK1
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
No, I did not. I am hostile towards those who shove sports in my face, make a big fuss over them, and insist that they're important. I really resent the implication that persons such as myself who perceive the true value of sports are dishonest or unmanly. I'd like to put forth the counterclaim that those who make a large deal of sports are boorish brutes with underdeveloped brains.
Looks tempting...but you left the hook sticking out.
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
No, I did not. I am hostile towards those who shove sports in my face, make a big fuss over them, and insist that they're important. I really resent the implication that persons such as myself who perceive the true value of sports are dishonest or unmanly. I'd like to put forth the counterclaim that those who make a large deal of sports are boorish brutes with underdeveloped brains.
I'm a little curious here... What exactly do you perceive as "the true value of sports?"
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Wished more dads would teach this one.
In life you have duties and rights. You have no rights till you fullfilled your duties.:D ... thx dad.
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
No, I did not. I am hostile towards those who shove sports in my face, make a big fuss over them, and insist that they're important. I really resent the implication that persons such as myself who perceive the true value of sports are dishonest or unmanly. I'd like to put forth the counterclaim that those who make a large deal of sports are boorish brutes with underdeveloped brains.
Benny,
It's like Aces High. We all know the fun and benifits of the game. But to those who have been around forever or are acknowleged as top players, unless you have been there they are unable to really include you in conversations about being there. And may sound like they are shoving an inside secret in your face.
I had a boss once who found out I had done the San Francisco to Las Angeles in-line skating marathon in 1996. He wanted to dialoge with me his dream of doing bicycle marathons. The problem was his was a dream, I had been skating inline marathons since 1990 of 25 - 100 miles 7 or 8 times a year. We had no common ground because he was not talking about having done or currently doing. Unfortunately this conversation was during my yearly review. I got a bad review. Guess I came off a boorish brute and not the company's e-mail engineer.....:huh
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Never grow up like Vanduk and look for moral support on a AH BBS... you might turn Ghey.
Mac
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Never take sloppy seconds....
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My dad taught me by hs actions, he wasn't much of a speaker.
However, someone on this board quoted someone who said (I hope I quoted correctly): "A master is someone who does his best work when he doesn't want to"
if it isn't correct, please correct me, I thought it was a great quote I learned recently.
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Give explanation...not excuses.
Stand up for what you believe in
Trust in the Lord
Love you're Country
Family First, whether times are good or bad.
Don't be afrad to show emotion.
Some things are worth fighting for.
Don't ever get married, and always have a flashlight, batteries, candles, a lighter, some candy bars and a gallon of water.
thanks dad!
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Never did get on with my Father. Didn't speak for a couple of years. At one stage after he punched me for a stupid reason. Still I think he was impressed that I took the punch with barely a flinch. Still have the scar. He was a highly intelligent man who never fulfilled his potential. I think he was disappointed the way his life worked out and didn't want me to be the same. Didn't work though.
Most of his good advice went to my sister but one I remember.
'You have no rights except those other people allow you.'
There were others but I wasn't listening. He lost my respect.