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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Laurie on January 06, 2007, 04:51:27 AM

Title: why the 262 when.......
Post by: Laurie on January 06, 2007, 04:51:27 AM
i was just wondering how come we have the 262 and the 163, but not the gloucster metoer which was the allied alternative for shooting down 262's and 163's.

i have not been in the BB long enough to know, when and why we had262 intstead of the metoer when we already have a large german planeset compared to the british planeset. i understand the metoer F1 went into serive with 616 squadron anround july '44, and F3 model (far superior to F1) around december '44.

i have done some research on the plane, trying myself to find why the 262 is in and not the meteor,
and have concluded its because the 262 was in service for 8 months longer in WW2.

would i be right?

and i find the meteor a fascinating plane, and would love to see it in game some time. is this false hope?
i seem to recall a comment soemwhere like  "we'll get that as soon as we get the meteor" in a sort of sarcastic manner that suggested soemthing had been said that it would never be put in the game.


:noid

, here are some basic specs about the metoer F1.

Nicknames: Meatbox; Meaty potato; Phantom Diver (T.7 version); Reaper (Meteor GAF version)

Specifications (F.Mk I):
        Engines: Two 1,700-pound thrust Rolls-Royce W.2B/23C Welland turbojets
        Weight: Empty 8,140 lbs., Max Takeoff 13,795 lbs.
        Wing Span: 43ft. 0in.
        Length: 41ft. 3in.
        Height: 13ft. 0in.
        Performance:
            Maximum Speed at 10,000 ft: 415 mph
            Ceiling: 40,000 ft.
            Range: 550 miles
        Armament: Four 20-mm cannon

Number Built:  3,947

Number Still Airworthy:  Approximately 6

and this is link to site i got info from, there is lots of plane's details on here.

http://www.warbirdalley.com/meteor.htm
Title: why the 262 when.......
Post by: Blagard on January 06, 2007, 05:31:33 AM
Check out Meteor link (http://www.neam.co.uk/meteor.html)

In reality it never got as far as air combat in WWII, just a couple of encounters.

I don't really think it warrants including on the basis of its involvement.

The 262 on the other hand did see action and we were lucky it was never produced as a fighter in large numbers.

Edit
I have discounted any minor ground attack or V1/V2 work because this is not air to air (dogfighting) combat.
Title: why the 262 when.......
Post by: Laurie on January 06, 2007, 09:59:57 AM
it got 48 kills in no.616 squadron service i believe
Title: why the 262 when.......
Post by: croduh on January 06, 2007, 10:04:23 AM
On v1 i think, not planes
Title: why the 262 when.......
Post by: Yeager on January 06, 2007, 12:01:04 PM
teh meteor was a dog.  Bring the P80 to AH.
Title: why the 262 when.......
Post by: E25280 on January 06, 2007, 12:25:56 PM
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Originally posted by Blagard
I don't really think it warrants including on the basis of its involvement.
Blagard has it right.  Every other "rare" aircraft we have was involved in air-to-air combat with a piloted enemy aircraft at least once.  Meteor kills were either unmanned V1s or ground targets.
Title: why the 262 when.......
Post by: Guppy35 on January 06, 2007, 12:32:57 PM
It was operational from the summer of 44 on and did make it on to the continent for the final push.  The pilots couldn't direct the policy that kept them from air combat.  They were more then willing.

And of course if air combat is the key, then where's my Spit XII?  It saw far more combat then the Ta152 :)
Title: why the 262 when.......
Post by: E25280 on January 06, 2007, 12:47:00 PM
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Originally posted by Guppy35
And of course if air combat is the key, then where's my Spit XII?  It saw far more combat then the Ta152 :)
Oh, like we need another Spit.:rolleyes:







:rofl :aok
Title: why the 262 when.......
Post by: Hoarach on January 06, 2007, 12:55:24 PM
We dont need more spits but we do need more P38s.

P38D, 38F, 38H, 38L superstrafer.....the list goes on.  :D
Title: why the 262 when.......
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on January 06, 2007, 01:15:03 PM
Bah AH doesn't have even the most successful plane in WW2, Brewster.
Title: why the 262 when.......
Post by: eilif on January 06, 2007, 04:44:11 PM
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   Bah AH doesn't have even the most successful plane in WW2, Brewster.


Ill second that :aok
Title: why the 262 when.......
Post by: MotorOil1 on January 06, 2007, 07:39:36 PM
262 surely saw more combat.  Something like 1200-1400 were produced, my memory is out a bit.  But only about 400 got to the front lines and saw actual combat.  Thanlfully not all at the same time.

I'm sure the Meteor will be along some day.....