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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Yeager on January 06, 2007, 10:35:35 PM
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Should be an interesting strike to watch unfold. Although the risk here is huge, I think the world could really benefit from another nuclear blast just to keep the edge sharp. Dont want to get so lazy or forgetful, only to be shocked by a mushroom cloud over London or New York. No, far better for the next atomic attack to happen......over there :aok
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2535310,00.html
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Sounds like one of those trial balloons to test and/or prepare world opinion.
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WW3:noid
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This is not good.
It's not the same world it was 60 some odd years ago.
That genie needs to be left in the bottle. The alternative is too horrific.
Grab a brain cell, they are free.
RTR
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What do you mean? The UN accomplished nothing with diplomacy?
OUTRAGEOUS!
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how could this be good? wouldn't it be far better to anihilate them with conventional methods? the clean up is far easier.
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It could give the Israelis, Americans and Iraqi's some target practice as the Iranian masses comes storming across Iraq.
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Originally posted by Yeager
only to be shocked by a mushroom cloud over London or New York. No, far better for the next atomic attack to happen......over there :aok
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2535310,00.html
It better not be in New york.:aok
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I still subscribe to the same policy that I have mentioned on this bbs before. Any country that threatens to use nuclear weapons should be informed by the other nuclear powers that if they do use one, that their country will be destroyed...period.
If they carry out a nuclear attack. The threat should be carried out.
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I don't see the fuss. Everyone is willing to wait until Iran (just like NK) has the resources to go nuclear. What is 1/15th of the tonnage dropped on Hiroshima? Certainly not much more than the 20,000 lb bunker busters dropped on German fortifications during W -dubya-2.
And with the leader of Iran wanting to 'wipe Israel from the map', who really wants to stop them? It's a tough call, but these kids have been playing in that sandbox for how long now?
This kind of threat is one of many reasons why I don't live in NYC though :aok
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Originally posted by Black Sheep
What is 1/15th of the tonnage dropped on Hiroshima? Certainly not much more than the 20,000 lb bunker busters dropped on German fortifications during W -dubya-2.
I wish I could give you the benefit of doubt, but that is just retarded. The Hiroshima bomb had a yield of about 15 kilotons, or 30,000,000 lbs. 1/15th of that is 2 million pounds.
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Originally posted by Black Sheep
I don't see the fuss. Everyone is willing to wait until Iran (just like NK) has the resources to go nuclear. What is 1/15th of the tonnage dropped on Hiroshima? Certainly not much more than the 20,000 lb bunker busters dropped on German fortifications during W -dubya-2.
hu ???
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lol, that is one of the most stupid articles I have read.
The plans, disclosed to The Sunday Times last week,
Yeh right, someone of a small group of people who would know of such an operation had called the Sunday Times reporter and told him of the planned attack and the exact method of execution. Or was it that the reporter was invited to the attack planning session?
Very proffesional.:rolleyes:
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Sheer stupidity....the use of any type of nuclear device as a "tactical" tool gives any two bit country tacit justification to grab their own nuclear weapons
Tronsky
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Isreal has had Nukes for a long time... same as South Korea.
*singin* "Good Day Sunshine"
Some are you so Blind...
Mac
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Originally posted by Thrawn
I still subscribe to the same policy that I have mentioned on this bbs before. Any country that threatens to use nuclear weapons should be informed by the other nuclear powers that if they do use one, that their country will be destroyed...period.
If they carry out a nuclear attack. The threat should be carried out.
Unfortunatley, with the martyr thingy, the old mutually assured destruction may not work here. Any way, Russia would not like having Iran nuked for the fallout would spoil a great part of thier country. THere is no use for nukes anymore, other than to bring about the end of civilization.
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Would anyone miss new york city? Or any big blue city for that matter?
lazs
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lazs, are you saying that it is ok to wipe out 10,000,000 people because you don't like their political affilliation?
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Israel plans nuclear strike, so what? Does anyone think that every nuclear power hasn't planned their use against their enemies? Be kinda foolish not to donchya think?
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from what i understand the political dynamics in iran have changed since the last local elections were held back in dec.
the first opportunity at hand iranians voted in reformers and moderates. showing their displeasure with the president's abrasive foreign policies and lack of economic reform.
while the conservatives are fighting among themselves the reformers and moderates are trying to redefine their political platforms.
pretty funny tho...if you know what i mean.
nuke them damn dirty apes...right babek?
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Amadmanjihad is still the Iranian president no? Does he have the authority to send Iran's military to "wipe Israel from the face of the map" as he has promised? If he does I think Israel should be very afraid so long as this mad man is in power.
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I don't think the terrriosts would be stupid enough to risk detonating one atomic bomb in the US, we would still be able to retaliate. If any plot is attempted it will most likely included multiple targets. 9/11 they tried coordinating multiple attacks in one day. Even the last plot busted up by the UK was going to target multiple jets. I would not want to live in any major city that is important to US economic growth.
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I believe there are terrorist groups that want a world wide "holy war" with the infidels and would detonate a nuke in the US in a second if they could. Retaliation is exactly what they want. I think they'll get their wish eventually.
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I would be upset about the destruction of NY or any other American city by a terrorist.
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Originally posted by lukster
I believe there are terrorist groups that want a world wide "holy war" with the infidels and would detonate a nuke in the US in a second if they could. Retaliation is exactly what they want. I think they'll get their wish eventually.
The solution to this is to promise the Muslims that at the first terroristic attack against the free world, the holy muslim sights will be lit up by nuclear weapons from medium importance all the way to mecca.
But of course, no one has the balls to do it.
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I think it's funny that Iran really believes they can take Israel. Israel has hundreds of deployable nuclear weapons, not just one or two bulky test bombs & a handful of plans in a bread box.
The ability to produce a nuclear weapon doesn't help you when you have weapons that are already produced, armed & falling on you.
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A few tactical nukes aren't going to cause much contamination.
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Nuke Israel
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I don't concern myself with being incinerated, now a cavalry, or bayonet charge, well that would cause me some pause. yes sir, there's no school like old school.
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The solution to this is to promise the Muslims that at the first terroristic attack against the free world, the holy muslim sights will be lit up by nuclear weapons from medium importance all the way to mecca.
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Agreed. Problem seems to me that these muslim fanatics, and all muslims that quietly sit by watching this fiasco with an almost perceptible nod of agreement, seem to welcome death or at the least aren't afraid of dying, so why wait until they build nuclear arsenals to destroy us with?
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do holy moslems see better or something??? I don't get it.
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*sites
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Originally posted by bozon
lol, that is one of the most stupid articles I have read.
Yeh right, someone of a small group of people who would know of such an operation had called the Sunday Times reporter and told him of the planned attack and the exact method of execution. Or was it that the reporter was invited to the attack planning session?
Very proffesional.:rolleyes:
I would agree with this.
These types of plans wouldn't be leaked I would think. Course now a days....Who knows.
If they were leaked and it is a plan....then stop talking and get it done. Might as well get it started now and get it done rather than wait til they have more weapons to dispense. Level em.
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Any nation that has nukes has some plan for using them. It defeats the purpose, otherwise. It does not mean they will use them. It does not mean they intend to use them. It only means that they are prepared if they should have to use them.
This is not news.
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what a timing, the other thread "speaking of google maps... anyone look at Chernobyl lately?"
fits in here too, i mean if we talk about some kind of possible future...
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question about Israelis...
Are Israelis 'ALLOWED' to have Nuclear Weapons...
How, where, when, why and who gave them such weapons...
Muslims...or more like Persians
Attacking Israel would be the end of IRAN, so the blablabla scare tactics from the Iranian Prez. is just that, blablabla
What IS getting scary is the fact that *****ES are growing in power in the Muslim world, the power positions were mostly in the Sunnite hands, but that is now changing...
expect more infighting between Sunnites and *****es for power control and more terrorist action...
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After being stationed in the Sinai near Israel I know one thing....When they are full nuc Im quitting my job and playing AH nonstop and awaiting the fallout.
90prf
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on the upside a light nuclear winter could take care of this global warming problem
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Originally posted by Catalyst
question about Israelis...
Are Israelis 'ALLOWED' to have Nuclear Weapons...
How, where, when, why and who gave them such weapons...
Well, Israel has never "admitted" having nuclear weapons, but it's well known they have them. No one "gave" them these weapons, they created them on their own after getting together with South Africa in the mid-70's to explode a couple test devices. The first reactor(s) Israel had/has were built by France back in the 50's.
Here are a couple links to some decent info on both subjects, the beginnings of the program & the development of weapons.
Isareli nuke program (http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/)
South Africas nuke program (http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/rsa/nuke/index.html)
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Well since North Korea has nukes Im pretty sure you can say anyone with the right cash can now go nuke, scary sick sad truth.
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Originally posted by bozon
lol, that is one of the most stupid articles I have read.
Yeh right, someone of a small group of people who would know of such an operation had called the Sunday Times reporter and told him of the planned attack and the exact method of execution. Or was it that the reporter was invited to the attack planning session?
Very proffesional.:rolleyes:
That pretty much sums up my opinion. Besides, Isreal doesn't have nukes.
I'd definetly like to see the sources on this one.
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Well...our "very competent" PM just recently admitted that Israel does have nukes.
link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRrpvyZ9OQ0)
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Originally posted by Yeager
The solution to this is to promise the Muslims that at the first terroristic attack against the free world, the holy muslim sights will be lit up by nuclear weapons from medium importance all the way to mecca.
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Agreed. Problem seems to me that these muslim fanatics, and all muslims that quietly sit by watching this fiasco with an almost perceptible nod of agreement, seem to welcome death or at the least aren't afraid of dying, so why wait until they build nuclear arsenals to destroy us with?
If they`re not afraid of dying,there should be another way to scare them. It`s tough.What can scare a man more than death?
I say cut their balls off. That`d scare them.
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Originally posted by Rooster
on the upside a light nuclear winter could take care of this global warming problem
Down side is nobody would be here to see it
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Originally posted by ~Caligula~
Well...our "very competent" PM just recently admitted that Israel does have nukes.
link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRrpvyZ9OQ0)
It takes a you tube vid for people to figure out Isreal has nukes?
Heres a hint, if your a friend of the USA, your allowed to have nukes, if your not your not allowed to have nukes, if your not a friend of the USA, and you have nukes, and we find out through our less than perfect intelligence, we'll invade and destroy, that is on the condition that (1) you don't nuke us. and (2) we have any troops left after this war were in now.
:) Not bad for a blond white girl huh?
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Originally posted by ~Caligula~
Well...our "very competent" PM just recently admitted that Israel does have nukes.
link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRrpvyZ9OQ0)
That's awesome.....
Back to the article in question, I hear rumours CNN ran a story on it, somebody is just trying to rock the boat here a bit on the whole issue.
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I watched that you tube link & it must've been cut short because it never had him admitting to anything.
It's well known they have them so it's irrelevant anyway.
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Originally posted by Brenjen
I watched that you tube link & it must've been cut short because it never had him admitting to anything.
It's well known they have them so it's irrelevant anyway.
He said: "Iran openly, explicitly and publicly threatens to wipe Israel off the map.
Can you say that this is the same level, when they are aspiring to have nuclear weapons, as France, America, Russia and Israel?"
It`s never been admitted before.
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(quote) Can you say that this is the same level, when they are aspiring to have nuclear weapons, as France, America, Russia and Israel?" (unquote)
Anyone want to translate exactly what that sentence means?
Same level as what? Same level as France, America, Russia and Israel what?
Listening to his entire brief excerpt, still can't figure out exactly what he's trying to say.
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Repeat, the whole story is a trial balloon designed to both test world public opinion and prepare it for such a contingency.
There was another thread somewhere about Israel modifying some F-16s for long-range strike capability.
After the Jewish experience in WWII, don't expect Israel to sit back and allow a nation to acquire nukes after its leader advocates wiping Israel off the planet.
Well, at least a not a major nuclear power. Can't imagine what would happen if China or Russia made such a threat. Hopefully they are too secure and mature to play nasty like that anymore.
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Any way, Russia would not like having Iran nuked for the fallout would spoil a great part of thier country.
Aren't they talking about using bunker busters with nuclear warheads? If so the detonation would happen underground and would be little or no fallout. So no reason for Russia to worry about fallout from these weapons. They should be more worried about the structure built over the Cherynoble (sp) reactor collapsing.