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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Coshy on January 10, 2007, 10:33:30 PM
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I am about 5-6 weeks into the sim/game and am pretty well hooked. I keep an eye on the BBS for information or opportunities I can use to increase my skill level.
The thing thats bothering me is I dont want to end up as another spixteen or lala dweeb even though I've primarialy been flying spit 16's. I've been trying out other aircraft, p38, a couple 109's, some F4's, hurris, typhoon, to name a few, all in the hopes of finding one I like as much as the spit. To me the spit is just a damn sexy aircraft, never mind that it flies well and has excellent weaponry.
I prefer to turn rather than BnZ (especially since I learned how easy it is to avoid a BnZ'er). I like to get in close where my craptastic gunnery might actually land a hit or two.
I'm not really gung-ho on the japanese planes, probably because I cant tell a zero from a zeke. But I'd be willing to try one out for a few weeks if the majority of the suggestions lean that way.
So I'm asking, aside from the spit 16 and the la 7, which planes should I be taking a closer look at?
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First, fly what you like and dont worry about someone calling you a dweeb. If you like the Spit 16 or the Lala, then fly it.
If you like to turn, other good options are the FM-2, Niki, Hurricane's and my favorite the Ki-84.
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The ones YOU like. Dweeb is just a name ya get called by people who think because they are so good or talk smack better they can just make you do what they think you should be doin or flying what they think is a "Mans" ride.
Get past the dweeb thing.
Once you find your style of flying , then try planes that fit that style. Caution tho , you can get bored with yank and bank. And you can get bored with BnZ. Learn one. Get pretty good at it in the plane you feel best suits YOU...Not the other guy. Then Try to learn the other side of the coin.
Don't fall victim to thinking because you fly something , and trust me I HATE LA7's , that it in some way puts a sign on you.
This is all about YOUR FUN....not the other guys. You do what YOU enjoy. What you pay YOUR 14.95 a month to do. ANd let the rst call names. Spit and whine.
That would be my advice.
Now TnB planes...Seafire...SpitV...A6 M....Hurri's....those would be my picks.
F6F's FM2's are pretty good lil TnBer's as well.
F4U's..P51's to TnB in you need quite a bit of practice. Those are what I considerr more Angle fighters...but CAN be very lethal in TnB when flown by people who have spent time i them alot. Skyrock...SirLoin....GTR....S nifu....Balsy....MtnMan...Cbi zKit are all very good HOG drivers. And many more I didnt mention.
Steve...SkatSr.....IMO are the 2 best pony drivers....There are many more as well.
LYNX....FX....Batfink.....Big gles....are all very good Spit Drivers....Also many more.
Creton is the top 109 driver IMO...but many more good ones as well.
Learn from these guys about what they fly and do best....pick thier brains...and when you can hang with most of them....You have reached the place of being pretty dang good flyer.
Dweebs....they are always the other guy.
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You want to know how to avoid the dweeb moniker?
Try.
(And believe me, you'll have more fun too).
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If you are using the spit 16 for Turn N Burn only, I would recommend that you try another spit. The 16 doesn't turn as well as the 9, which doesn't turn as well as the 8, which doesn't turn as well as the 5. The Mk.I turns the best of all the spits, but is so under-powered and under-armed that you shouldn't bother with it in the MA. The spit 14 is perked, but don't let that fool you- it turns relatively on par with the 16.
If you are looking to TnB in a spit, I would go with the 5. Or, off a carrier, the seafire (very similar to the 5).
Don't let the idea of someone calling you a "dweeb" get to you...fly what you like.
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Originally posted by Coshy
I am about 5-6 weeks into the sim/game and am pretty well hooked. I keep an eye on the BBS for information or opportunities I can use to increase my skill level.
The thing thats bothering me is I dont want to end up as another spixteen or lala dweeb even though I've primarialy been flying spit 16's. I've been trying out other aircraft, p38, a couple 109's, some F4's, hurris, typhoon, to name a few, all in the hopes of finding one I like as much as the spit. To me the spit is just a damn sexy aircraft, never mind that it flies well and has excellent weaponry.
I prefer to turn rather than BnZ (especially since I learned how easy it is to avoid a BnZ'er). I like to get in close where my craptastic gunnery might actually land a hit or two.
I'm not really gung-ho on the japanese planes, probably because I cant tell a zero from a zeke. But I'd be willing to try one out for a few weeks if the majority of the suggestions lean that way.
So I'm asking, aside from the spit 16 and the la 7, which planes should I be taking a closer look at?
what country do you fly for first
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Sorry guys but you all know dweebs fly spits and lala's.granted if ur base capped by vulchers ..by all means up a lala or a niki or a spit..but when you fly into a base and all u see are ...you whine and *****..and dont say u dont cuz i've seen it on 200...for 6 yrs.
Fly what u need to hone ur skills..after u get proficient..try something more challenging..makes u a better stick and a more respectable stick.
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Don't forget to try the bf109 F model. It turns with the best of them and at slow speeds is an absolute monster. An added bonus is the small magazine of 20 mm. so you will be forced to work on both, getting in close, and your markmanship which is the greater part of most victories out there. Most of all have fun and the first time you get called a dweeb it will be because you just flamed some chumps butt low and slow, in close and personal.
Jumping from plane to plane at first is common for most new players. Best advise I think anyone will give you is find one you like and get to it know it real good for a bit. You'll find it's alot like the NFL. Any plane can beat another at any given time. It's in the hands of the player.
You'll enjoy this game.
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Greetings,
Hmmm, avoiding the dweeb:
Dweebfire... Spits (any)
Dweeb Lgay.... LAs (any)
Dweeb cherry picker.... Any plane with a wingman
Dweeb runner..... 51, LA (any), 47
HO Dweeb...... Hurri 2, 110, C Hog, or any time you shoot when outnumbered 3 to 1
Stick stirring Dweeb..... LA, Niki, Zero (any)
etc . . . . . .
Seems to me, no matter what ya fly, if you win the engagement, you're always the 'dweeb'. Turn off 200 and have fun.
Personally, I still looking for the help file that explains when it is okay to shoot at people. . . . . . . till then, I shoot at all the red 'uns!
Regards,
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stay away from th bk's: virtual herpes.
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Originally posted by royztoy
stay away from th bk's: virtual herpes.
This is true, and is very good advice.
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definition of dweeb:
members of a squad called ++ The Blue Knights ++
(except Slapshot, he's ok I guess)
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Btw, someone has to say it sooner or later...
The Zero IS the Zeke, so don't go feeling bad about not being able to tell the difference between the two. ;)
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If you like cartoon airplanes, you're a dweeb. Period.
That being said, you might as well be a dweeb flying a plane you like.
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I've been doing this for over ten years in various sims and until very recently my primary ride was always some form of Spit or another.
I also like to T'n'B and I've found theres a whole list of planes that do that better than a Spit XVI (F4F-4, FM2, Hurri, NIK, Spit V, KI and others).
Fly what you like and get comfortable and good with it. Spit XVI is a great ride because it B'nZ's as well as it T'n'B's and most of the true T'n'B planes are slow.
And remember, you are only a Dweeb to the guy that just lost to you.
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Dweebs may like to fly spit 16s, but they were dweebs even before they took off with it.
It's the player which is a dweeb, not the plane. Therefor spit16 is not a dweeb plane, it is a dweeb's plane.
Fly what you like. Just fly like a man! :aok
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Originally posted by LTARkilz
what country do you fly for first
I need to make a sig up, I fogot about it.
I'm currently flying Bishop under the name Morr, at least till I can get it changed to this one. I went Bishop after a stint as a knight because I got tired of some dang LTAR shooting me down in an osti or field gun!
I've flown around a bunch of LTARs one evening. I was in a heavy 38 and there were about 9 of you behind me, talk about performance anxiety!! But y'all seemed like a decent bunch on VOX.
I appreciate all the responses, and will definately stay away from The Blue Knights (except for Slapshot).
The trouble I'm having is I'm beginning to like the La-7. Its fast, it turns reasonably well, and the views from the cockpit are mostly unobstructed.
I'm still undecided about my next aircraft of choice, but now I have several ideas as to where to go next (other than the TA, I know I need to spend more time there).
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Turn channel 200 off ;)
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Originally posted by bozon
Fly what you like. Just fly like a man! :aok
How do you mean that bozon??!!???? :furious
Ill show you.... bah! Flying like a man - hah! *mutters and shakes head*
:D
Coshy, lots of good advice in this thread. Just you even ASKING this question shows that you will not be the kind of dweeb you fear :). This thread (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=195110) is meant in fun, but has a core of truth to it.
Aside from that, i have little to add: Its not *what* you fly - its *how* you fly it and how you conduct yourself in the game. To me true "dweebery" in the game is trying to make up for lack of skill by talking big words and mouthing off instead. Youll find that this community is very helpful towards people that are respectful and friendly. Many a vet, if you ask him after a fight how he killed you, will sit down a minute and explain it to you.
There are a few things that are considered "lame" though, by the majority.
- "kill stealing": that means shooting the tumbling remains of a plane that someone else just worked hard on defeating. in AH, the kill goes to the player that did the most damage to an opponent that dies.... by pumping bullets in a crippled plane, you can snatch the credit for a kill away from someone else
- trying to force the Head On (HO) shot every pass (thats not only rather lame, but also not a very good tactic)
- continuosly avoiding a fight by either running or bailing (yes, you will die a lot at first, but not avoiding fight, but going in with open eyes, fighting, asking questions and spend a little time on training/reading is the only way to get better. You dont learn much from running, except how to fly fast ;))
Welcome to our dweeby little world :)!
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Originally posted by Coshy
I need to make a sig up, I fogot about it.
I'm currently flying Bishop under the name Morr, at least till I can get it changed to this one. I went Bishop after a stint as a knight because I got tired of some dang LTAR shooting me down in an osti or field gun!
I've flown around a bunch of LTARs one evening. I was in a heavy 38 and there were about 9 of you behind me, talk about performance anxiety!! But y'all seemed like a decent bunch on VOX.
I appreciate all the responses, and will definately stay away from The Blue Knights (except for Slapshot).
The trouble I'm having is I'm beginning to like the La-7. Its fast, it turns reasonably well, and the views from the cockpit are mostly unobstructed.
I'm still undecided about my next aircraft of choice, but now I have several ideas as to where to go next (other than the TA, I know I need to spend more time there).
Im glad to hear your finding your way around! :)
I see youve already run into a few things that are to be "avoided like the plague" - LTARs in an Osti . Im just glad they cant actually FLY them. :D
The La7 is actually one of the best fighters in game, for the very reasons you stated. BUT, that high performance makes it also a plane that is not very easy to fly. Im not talking about the "make one HO pass and run home to ack" kind of flying... Wheather you use the LA as a TnB/angles fighter or as a BnZ, it needs a lot of throttle and flap work to control your closure rate and turn. Im not saying dont go for it - on the contrary. It will teach you a lot - im just "warning" you that its not as *easy mode* as some comments can lead you to think.
As for Training - "you got our number" :). Dont hesitate to pester the Trainer Corps with requests for help.
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A dweeb gets up in the plane he wants to fly, then flies it and has a great time and really doesn't mind if you call him a dweeb cause he's having a dynamite time in a great game.
I've been a dweeb for lotsa years now and and I'm proud to be a dweeb.
Ren
The Damned
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For starters, dont post asking how not to be a dweeb =) J/K!!
Actually, I say fly how you want to, learn at the rate you want to and have fun. Dont worry about what other people are doing unless you get your bellybutton handed to you and want to learn how to do that to others! And if thats not something you care about, then just do what you want to have fun. No matter how good you are or how "non dweebish" you are there will always be people who will talk mad $@$% to you. Just ignore them and have fun...or if you like to talk back, do that =). Its your 15 bucks and if you arnt cheating or breaking the rules, then you should be able to do whatever you want.
Having said that, if you want to make friends fast:
*Always be nice and upbeat. (Sometimes we all stray from this)
*Try not to fire blatant Head on Shots...sometimes its unavoidable but generally people will like you better if you dont do it.
*Volunteer to fly a goon, or take out a VH or SOMETHING...get your name out there. Be someone people want to fly with.
*If you get HOd, don't say anything ...its really not worth it. I admit i get really pissed when i get HOd...especially if i do my best to avoid it (sometimes its impossible especially in multiple engagement fights)but i rarely if at all complain about it because it ends up making you look like a moron for letting it happen to you.
*If someone is warping like crazy ,Just know that 99 out of a 100 times, they ARE NOT cheating. Their connect is crappy and they usually cant help it. So be nice to those people. Let them know they are warpy and suggest they relog.
*SOME people in this game are just sour pusses they cant take a compliment, they make tons of excuses, and they never admit it when they are beat. When you meet one of those people, its best just to not talk to them. I recently made the mistake of trying to strike up a conversation with a "TOP PLAYER" and they pretty much spit it back in my face and insulted me out of the blue for no reason, so I got pretty pissed and looking back i really should have just let it go. We had a nice long nasty conversation that really didn't do either of us any good. Games are supposed to be relievers of stress, not causes of it =)
Some people will try and get in your head and talk trash, but you can usually tell the good natured trash talkers from the people mentioned above. Theres a few guys who fit into this category for me and while it can be annoying I know they are just having fun and I don't take it personal. Sometimes its entertaining.
Just like in life...treat people the way you want to be treated. Take some time to learn some stuff on your own. Theres some great online training material somewhere linked off the main site...Ask Schatzi, shell hook you up.
....Now if only i can take my own advice =)
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Originally posted by Coshy
The trouble I'm having is I'm beginning to like the La-7. Its fast, it turns reasonably well, and the views from the cockpit are mostly unobstructed.
I think I need to get my hands on the la7 you're flying.....
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Originally posted by TexInVa
I think I need to get my hands on the la7 you're flying.....
I was mainly talking about the rear view. Side views I can manage by either rolling a little or raising/lowering the head position.
Dr1337:
I try to avoid the head on shots, although I will take a front quater shot if it presents itself. Although at this point my gunnery is pretty poor, so either way I usually miss. I do like hearing people cry about ho's, I just dont get it really, I mean just a little rudder and there is no ho. Dunno, maybe its something I'll understand as time passes.
I have flown so many goons/driven so many m3's that I can put paratroopers pretty much anywhere I want them, but I will continue driving the shortbus as long as it helps out.
Schatzi:
To be honest I did first get in the La-7 because I read/heard people say it was ezmode, but my first stall, failed recovery and subsequent lawn dart imitation quickly erased the idea of ezmode.
So I practiced offline with it (as well as most of the other planes I've mentioned). Blowing pieces of the circling drones off is really quite comical when you see just the fuselage flying around.
I still suck in the La-7, but when I stall I can usually recover before I meet Mr. Earth.
My work schedule swings from day to night shift, I'm transitioning this weekend to night shift, and hope to be able to get a little TA time in this month, so prepare to be pestered!
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Spitfire is a dweeb ride??
:confused:
Lambo
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dont avoid the moniker, embrace it...accept your dweeibness and become one with it.
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Just don't worry about what other people say. They only do it because they feel superior to other cartoon pilots. You don't hear them calling HT a dweeb for putting the "dweeb rides" in the game & they aren't so pissed off they stopped paying their $15 a month.
Grits (& others) havehit the nail on the head. Fly what you like & like what you fly. (& tune out channel 200)
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Also, realize that the most common reason for calling someone a dweeb has nothing to do with what plane you're in.
"Dweeb," "cherry picker," "gang banger," and a few others really mean one thing -- $%&*? You KILLED me!
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Yeah turn channel 200 off i have had it off for the past few days now and its been great not listening to the whines or seeing someone call me a dweebfire pilot. 200 is a harsh channel and a lotta people on it are just out to get one over on his opponent in some sad slanging match i wont be putting it back on again anyway.
:aok
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The way I see it, you have two options. The easier of the two, is simple:
Fly a different plane. Only the La-7 and the Spitfire XVI have earned the moniker 'Dweeb'. May I suggest my personal favorite, the Spitfire mk IX?
Second option, slightly more difficult, fly it properly, and fly it well. Fly it like a real plane, observe aircraft limitations, even those that arent mapped into the game, such as engine overheating. When you are not in a hot invironment, turn you RPMs down to normal, or even Max Cruise. Just tonight I flew an entire mission in a Spitfire IX with boost at 2 and RPMs at 2,250. Your plane does lose speed, but it can hold in the air. And then, as soon as you see an enemy, got so Military, or even Emergency power. That removes some of the dweebyness, as it does take a SLIGHT bit of knowledge to control RPMs. Then, dont just whorde, or HO, fly well. Avoid the HO, or cherry-pick, and ESPECIALLY vulch if at all possible. The Spitfire XVI is so ub3r you can get kills without ever doing those things. Basically, until you build up a reputation as a good pilot, be careful in what shots you take. But above all, be good enough that you can fly something else. The other night I saw a guy constantly landing kills in a Spitfire XVI. Everyone esle was saluting him, but I dont generally salute Spitfire XVIs. I said to him "I know your a damned good pilot. Do me a favor, fly any other plane for your next flight." he said "sure". So he did. He landed a pair of kills in another plane (I cannot remember just which one). When he did that, he really earned my respect. Its one thing to land 20 kills in a Spitfire XVI, but if you can jump in a P-47, or Bf-109, or even a Spitfire IX and land half as many, you truely are worthy of everyones respect.
Be advised, the above is just my personal opinion. Yes, I dislike the Spitfire XVI, but if you fly it well, and fly it right, truely LEARN the aircraft, both its Aces High performance and the real-world plane, no one has any right to call you a dweeb. But if all you do is HO, vulch and pick, then you are fair game.
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Originally posted by Coshy
I am about 5-6 weeks into the sim/game and am pretty well hooked. I keep an eye on the BBS for information or opportunities I can use to increase my skill level.
The thing thats bothering me is I dont want to end up as another spixteen or lala dweeb even though I've primarialy been flying spit 16's. I've been trying out other aircraft, p38, a couple 109's, some F4's, hurris, typhoon, to name a few, all in the hopes of finding one I like as much as the spit. To me the spit is just a damn sexy aircraft, never mind that it flies well and has excellent weaponry.
I prefer to turn rather than BnZ (especially since I learned how easy it is to avoid a BnZ'er). I like to get in close where my craptastic gunnery might actually land a hit or two.
I'm not really gung-ho on the japanese planes, probably because I cant tell a zero from a zeke. But I'd be willing to try one out for a few weeks if the majority of the suggestions lean that way.
So I'm asking, aside from the spit 16 and the la 7, which planes should I be taking a closer look at?
You should be taking a look at all of them.
If your hooked and you want to be a better virtual fighter pilot you will take this little piece of knowledge under advisment:
Start at the top of the fighter list with the A6m,fly each plane as you go down the list for 1 week each.By the end of that week you'll know the positives & Negatives of that aircraft & you'll know how to fight it in the sky's when you come across one.
Knowing what the other guy's plane does & Doesn't like to do makes a lot of difference in the middle of a fight.
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Once you learn to fly a Corsair well...then you will fly the LA7 exceptionally!
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I prefer to leave 200 on, it's downright amusing. I agree with what most of these people are sayin. Being a Dweeb means you're having fun. I'm a dweeb and really don't care(but I was before I ever even heard of this game). My advice is simple. Respect other players,
them when they own you or when you happen to win a good fight. Keep a positive mindset and just have fun...that's why you're playin right? I love spits and I love all the american carrier rides. I calll some of my Squaddies Niki dweebs...not because they are really dweebs, but they are really good in those crates(I personally can't stand the niki) And it's a joke to me to call them a dweeb as I'm flying around in a spixteen. There is alot of sarcasm around here so don't sweat it when someone calls you a dweeb. I believe in treating others how I want to be treated, and if someone starts ripping me for something, I leave it alone(silence annoys them more than anything) and use the good ole squelch option. There are some chest thumping idiots that can never get shot down without making some excuse, but they are outnumbered by alot of really good people by far. Just play the game and enjoy it.
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Turn off channel 200. Fly the way you want and have fun. :aok
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I am rather proud of my dweeb moniker. Mine is polished and kept clean. That's important to me.
Personally, I like to fly the F4U's. They can be fast to "run away" from the horde, etc. when flying alone but are much more agile than a P51. The plane can be flown as a BnZ, or TnB. It's nice to have options, I think.
The La7 along with the Spitfires have gotten a bad reputation because they are often flown by newer players. In the hands of an experienced player they are very dangerous. Both planes can be readily beaten by better tactics and exploiting their weaknesses while using the strengths of the plane you fly. You can find these strenghts/weaknesses by flying and fighting in the arena, or by doing some research on this bbs and associated web sites.
You must embrace your dweebery... pick a plane, find its strengths, read the pilots manual, fly it often if not always. Learn to fly the plane to its limits. The TA is a good place to practice 'edge of the envelope' flying and can help with gunnery using the LCS.
But what is most important.... have fun. After all, this is just a game.
Regards,
Malta
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be a dweeb............ but more importantly be your own dweeb.
Dont be defined by the BS merchants who write here (me included).
You will soon come to realise that.............
1) Head ons are either very stupid tactics or the last and only chance of the desparate.
2) Cherry picking is either (at worst) using your co countrymen as bait or (at best) dispatching an enemy who is poorly equiped to defend him/her self
3) Vulching is basically padding your kill count. The only competition is against other vulchers.
However dont let the above stop you enjoying yourself.............
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Well again a post that wont make me popular. This is a game, you are here to have fun. The way I have fun is flying a plane on the edge of out of control and trying to kill the guy with the red letters!! If he shows you his nose, blow it off! If you are flying near a runway and he ups, kill him before he can take off. If he is trying to run from the fight because he is damaged, chase him down and dont let him land! The object is to kill the other guy and take all the bases you can and win the war! Fly the plane you like and fly it the way you want. What other people say about you makes no difference. The only time people call you names is after you shoot them down. If you die, and you will, just up and go at them again. Have fun. Its your money, if your not having fun then spend that money somewhere else!!
P.S. The reason I say kill him before he can take off is this: Most times he is not the only enmy there! The more you let up in the air the more there are to get on your six, or HO you, or Vulch you. Just enjoy the game the way you enjoy it and let the rest talk!!
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Originally posted by Gaidin
Well again a post that wont make me popular. This is a game, you are here to have fun. The way I have fun is flying a plane on the edge of out of control and trying to kill the guy with the red letters!! If he shows you his nose, blow it off! If you are flying near a runway and he ups, kill him before he can take off. If he is trying to run from the fight because he is damaged, chase him down and dont let him land! The object is to kill the other guy and take all the bases you can and win the war! Fly the plane you like and fly it the way you want. What other people say about you makes no difference. The only time people call you names is after you shoot them down. If you die, and you will, just up and go at them again. Have fun. Its your money, if your not having fun then spend that money somewhere else!!
P.S. The reason I say kill him before he can take off is this: Most times he is not the only enmy there! The more you let up in the air the more there are to get on your six, or HO you, or Vulch you. Just enjoy the game the way you enjoy it and let the rest talk!!
This is an ok way to fly, and to present yourself if you don't want the respect of a lot of the people in this game. Personally, IMO, one of the best aspects that this game has to offer is the friendships made. It's hard to find people who want to fly with you when you conduct yourself in such a manor, not to mention what your reception will be like if you ever decide to switch countries. If you are just starting out, my advise would be to ignore the above post altogether, because there is more to be gained from this game than just kills, rank, and destruction.
To address the origional question, fly what you like. It's very difficult to find a plane that will suite your flying style, which will change as you evolve in this game. Lots start out flying the LA, or Spixteen, and for good reason. They have a lot of attributes that you need when you first start out. My best advise would be, join missions when they're posted. This gives you an opportunity to try something a little out of your element, and to have help while doing it. You might just find something that you really like that you might not have tried on your own.
Most of all, HAVE FUN!!!
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Helrazr1=Niki dweeb
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Fly what you like and to hell what they think.
Yup spit IX is a dweeb ride. :lol :lol
Handful that can out turn it but a watermelon load that out run it.
So if you choose to stay and fight one , you were bested by a better pilot.
Period end of story.
Bronk
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Originally posted by killnu
dont avoid the moniker, embrace it...accept your dweeibness and become one with it.
I agree 100% with this.
Bronk
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The only sure fire way to avoid the 'dweeb' moniker is to stop playing video games and avoid the Sci-Fi channel. Generally, any StarTrek show should be avoided regardless of what channel it appears on.
You might also consider avoiding Cartoon Network as it may give you an unhealthy dependence on Crapanese animation... Or, Crapanimation as some call it. Generally speaking if your intake of television is more than 50% animation of any kind, you're probably a dweeb.
And I know, because I'm not just a 'Dweeb' club member, I'm also the president.
(except I really do hate anime, I convulse everytime) But I'll take all the South Park, Futurama and Family Guy they can shove down my throat.
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Originally posted by lagger86
Helrazr1=Niki dweeb
LMAO.........ok, guilty
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So, you don’t want to be called a dweeb in Aces High?
It's simple actually.
Dont play Aces High.
Dweeb. ;)
Being called a dweeb no longer means (Noob) like it used to.
These days it is more an expression of ones irritation in most cases.
And in a few cases it's a friendly exchange. Heck...some have even construed is as a compliment in this twisted society.
Following the dialogue of the conversation will determine the likely meaning.
Just play on and don't sweat it. (Sticks and stones...)
:aok
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Originally posted by Helrazr1
This is an ok way to fly, and to present yourself if you don't want the respect of a lot of the people in this game. Personally, IMO, one of the best aspects that this game has to offer is the friendships made. It's hard to find people who want to fly with you when you conduct yourself in such a manor, not to mention what your reception will be like if you ever decide to switch countries. If you are just starting out, my advise would be to ignore the above post altogether, because there is more to be gained from this game than just kills, rank, and destruction.
You completely misunderstood Gaidin's post.
You would have a hard time finding a better team player than him, he is not a lone wolf psycho and he's making lots of friends.
What he is saying, is that the game allows you to play as you like, and therefore you should. Short of being disrespectful to the other people playing, you can attack what you want, how you want, while driving the plane of your choice. Nobody in this game has purchased the right to tell you what to do for 15 bucks a month.
Regardless what you think you learned from his post above, he is not a habitual vulture or HO. But will do whatever is needed to complete the mission or the flight. We all (every one of us in AH - so don't feed me any bull) vulch with great enthusiasm during a base capture. And we all know how to avoid it. I have NEVER ONCE taken down the ack at a base and heard someone on range go "Ok, but don't vulch them, because thats bad karma"... The typical response is more like "Sweet, the 'vulch light' is on, keep them from getting up while the goon gets in... Oh, one is running out of the hanger, GET HIM"
Lets stop prolonging the myth that there is this overwhelming chivalry in AH. Once in a while, you'll get a great dogfight with a skilled opponent one on one... But a lot of fights are 3 on 1 nasty furballs where you are just trying to get out with your skin... And in that scenario, you me and everyone else have the same rules... If it gets in my crosshair, I'm going to shoot which ever end of it is pointed at me, because I've got 2 more to deal with and no help in sight, and they can call me an HO dweeb on 200 all they want... I'm not gonna lay down and die.
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Forget what they say, fly what you want to fly and have fun.
In my opinion, the Yak is the plane to fly if you want to get lots of perk points. It is light and fast, and turns well. The only problem is it doesn't have much armament, so you really need to get to within 200 b/f you start firing.
It has great visibility with the bubble canopy, and has the 'oh crap' bars in the front to hold onto..hehe.
Even with that though, you'll hear the dweeb calling for flying an 'overmodelled' airplane.
If you re-arm and land about 7 kills in a yak you know your the man....good luck.
btw, the zero is a zeek
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Coshy
My recomendations are if you are looking to try a not so high end fighter to up a :
C205 - fast, turn rate not bad, armament good -visibility limited
BF109K14 fast, turn rate not bad, armament good -visibility limited
La5 - fast, turn rate not bad, armament kind of sucks - visibility good
Spit V or IX - well, they are just slower spits
But don't worry about being called a dweeb. If you are a called a dweeb it means you've ticked off somebody who is flying one of the above mentioned aircraft by shooting them down while you are in your LA7 or Spit XVI. No one ever complains about being shot down while flying the "dweeb" rides. Funny how that works.
Either way, let them call you a dweeb.
:cool:
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Originally posted by Kurt
You completely misunderstood Gaidin's post.
You would have a hard time finding a better team player than him, he is not a lone wolf psycho and he's making lots of friends.
What he is saying, is that the game allows you to play as you like, and therefore you should. Short of being disrespectful to the other people playing, you can attack what you want, how you want, while driving the plane of your choice. Nobody in this game has purchased the right to tell you what to do for 15 bucks a month.
Regardless what you think you learned from his post above, he is not a habitual vulture or HO. But will do whatever is needed to complete the mission or the flight. We all (every one of us in AH - so don't feed me any bull) vulch with great enthusiasm during a base capture. And we all know how to avoid it. I have NEVER ONCE taken down the ack at a base and heard someone on range go "Ok, but don't vulch them, because thats bad karma"... The typical response is more like "Sweet, the 'vulch light' is on, keep them from getting up while the goon gets in... Oh, one is running out of the hanger, GET HIM"
Lets stop prolonging the myth that there is this overwhelming chivalry in AH. Once in a while, you'll get a great dogfight with a skilled opponent one on one... But a lot of fights are 3 on 1 nasty furballs where you are just trying to get out with your skin... And in that scenario, you me and everyone else have the same rules... If it gets in my crosshair, I'm going to shoot which ever end of it is pointed at me, because I've got 2 more to deal with and no help in sight, and they can call me an HO dweeb on 200 all they want... I'm not gonna lay down and die.
You may be correct, I may have misunderstood everything that he was trying to say. If that is the case, please accept my humblest appologies. I never meant to imply that he's not a good pilot, nor a good guy. Maybe I wan't clear in my previous post. I think that it can be stated pretty simply. I don't think that it is a good lesson to be trying to teach those that are relatively new, and coming here for knowledge. Everyone whines about the "newbs" vulching, or HO'ing, and then post things like this. That post makes it seem like it's ok to put in cheap shots, and fight like a coward. THIS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE INTENT OF THE POST, but at first read, that's what I took from it, and I'm sure that I'm not the only one. It's not difficult to misconstrue a statement like that, so just be careful what you say.
No ill intentions or implications meant by my post.
a big to Gaiden and Kurt!
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Coshy, as many said, fly what you want. As Grits, I can suggest you to try the Ki84: it's trickier than a Spixteen, but it's a great plane, the best dogfighter in the whole set, IMHO.
And remember, you'll have to die a lot to learn, but eventually you will. Find someone who can help you (you'll find plenty of people wanting to help, I suggest you ask Schatzi, but don't fly a Hurri I if she tells you to do so - and she will.... :D -), read everything you can (check the links in my signature), and fly, fly, fly.... you'll learn how to fight and you'll possibly do that having fun at the same time. ;)
Btw, the Spitfire is not dweeb, most of its pilots are! :furious
Originally posted by Kurt
The only sure fire way to avoid the 'dweeb' moniker is to stop playing video games and avoid the Sci-Fi channel. Generally, any StarTrek show should be avoided regardless of what channel it appears on.
You might also consider avoiding Cartoon Network as it may give you an unhealthy dependence on Crapanese animation... Or, Crapanimation as some call it. Generally speaking if your intake of television is more than 50% animation of any kind, you're probably a dweeb.
And I know, because I'm not just a 'Dweeb' club member, I'm also the president.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Live long and prosper with the Force!
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Originally posted by Helrazr1
That post makes it seem like it's ok to put in cheap shots, and fight like a coward. THIS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE INTENT OF THE POST, but at first read, that's what I took from it, and I'm sure that I'm not the only one. It's not difficult to misconstrue a statement like that, so just be careful what you say.
No ill intentions or implications meant by my post.
a big to Gaiden and Kurt!
I haven't spoken to Gaidin this morning directly, but I'm quite certain he wasn't trying to support cheap shots... I think more likely he assumed (as I often do) that most people in here are fully aware that just about any shot you take can be viewed as a cheap shot by the guy on the recieving end.
Anyhow, I didn't think there was any ill intent on your part Hel, I just saw it was clear that you misunderstood him, so I felt the need to restate and reword.
All of the above not withstanding, if some dweeb does come along and think its worth 15 bucks a month to take cheap shots, more power to him, its his money... But I can assure you that you won't find that person in my roster :aok
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coshy, your a dweeb for even thinking about not being a dweeb. ya dweeb.
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Just my 2 cents....
Ignore the ***** talk some will post on the BBS
Tune out 200
Learn to use the squelch command
Bug Murdr and the other trainers....Murdr taught me alot in about 30 mins in the TA.
The Niki is my favorite ride, got speed, can turn, and cannons /w booKu ammo
above all, have fun, and make friends. Don't be scared to ask "stupid" questions....The only "stupid" questions are the ones that don't get asked.
and look me up if you ever need a question answered. If I don't know right off the answer, there are a zillion players we can ask.
:aok
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I'm an La-5 dweeb and I like it. :D
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Originally posted by killnu
dont avoid the moniker, embrace it...accept your dweeibness and become one with it.
Everyone knows that joining the AOM goes beyond embracing ones dweebness to having sexual relations with it. :P
(I did not have sex with that dweebness)
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the way i see it is your paying $15 a month, fly and do what ever it is that you have a good time doing.
Squad nights i enjoy the organization of working with others, the rest of the days i play it's what ever seems like fun at the moment
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Originally posted by Kurt
The only sure fire way to avoid the 'dweeb' moniker is to stop playing video games and avoid the Sci-Fi channel. Generally, any StarTrek show should be avoided regardless of what channel it appears on.
This is going to be a problem ... I cannot live without the Sci-Fi channel. I just cant. If I dont get a regular infusion of Battlestar Galactica and SG-1 I go into a catatonic state. It ain't pretty.
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Originally posted by Coshy
This is going to be a problem ... I cannot live without the Sci-Fi channel. I just cant. If I dont get a regular infusion of Battlestar Galactica and SG-1 I go into a catatonic state. It ain't pretty.
ummm scuse me...are we confusing dweebry with nerdery? ;)
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Originally posted by Mugzeee
ummm scuse me...are we confusing dweebry with nerdery? ;)
Uhh oohhh
Is that dweeby nerd or nerdy dweeb.
:huh
And is there a diff ?
:noid :noid :noid
Bronk
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dont avoid the moniker, embrace it...accept your dweeibness and become one with it.
Hehe Killnu
I like the Ki84 next to the Spit16 , it's a bit harder to fly but gets you a TON of perk pts :)
3/4 fuel is plenty , bring bombs also is you want . Watch dives over 480 as you can have elev problems :P At the right turn speed it "skyrocks" Spits :)
cheers
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Originally posted by Schatzi
The La7 is actually one of the best fighters in game, for the very reasons you stated. BUT, that high performance makes it also a plane that is not very easy to fly. Im not talking about the "make one HO pass and run home to ack" kind of flying... Wheather you use the LA as a TnB/angles fighter or as a BnZ, it needs a lot of throttle and flap work to control your closure rate and turn. Im not saying dont go for it - on the contrary. It will teach you a lot - im just "warning" you that its not as *easy mode* as some comments can lead you to think.
THAT happens to be the most sensible and accurate assessment of the La-7 that I have seen in a long, long time. That plane is no simple "point and shooter": it requires considerable skill to fly it properly.
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If you like turn fighting try the A6M5b (zero)
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:noid looks like a troll to me. Great answers though. Majority in this game were new once. The rest were veterans and sages. Dweebs could describe all of us who fly the pixilated skies.
Peace
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Ahem,
Ask "who is a dweeb" and you may get as many different answers as there are responders.
Fact of the matter is. EVERYONE is a dweeb. Its all a matter of what kind of dweeb you are.
I myself for example have been known to be a Baseporker Dweeb. A GV Dweeb,a Nik Dweeb, a 109 Dweeb, and a 190 Dweeb.
Whatever it is your doing at that moment. You are a dweeb at.
A good deal of people start out as spit dweebs (myself not included) and then graduate as their skill and interests in the game evolve.
be whatever type of dweeb you like and dont worry about what anyone else says.
Cause....Well they're dweebs too
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Its good you are trying out the other planes. Learn to become proficient in as many as you can and you will greatly broaden the spectrum of your enjoyment here.
Also helps sometimes when your not doing so well.
Having an off night in one particular plane. change to a different one. Each aircraft has its own distinct personality.
Learn to find the one that fits you the best at that moment.
Broaden your spectrum of dweebiness and you will be in a much better position to kill other dweebs more often then they kill you
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Fly what you want i fly the spit 16 mostly and i aint no dweeb i can fly all the planes prbly better then the average person but my fav are the 16 and la7. i remember when i beat chanzz in has yak vs my 16 and he called me a dweeb so we went to the DA and fought yak vs yak and i beat him 3-0 and i rarely fly the yak so i learned he aint the king of yaks like he called himself.
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Seems to be a concensus starting to build here:
1 - tune out Channel 200. Yep, definately not worth it.
2 - Try some different Spits in the line up. If you like Spits, you like Spits, but you might find one that suits your flying better than the 16 does.
3 - try the La 5. Also, might want to take a Bf 109 K-4 for a ride.
4 - turn fighter? Try the A6M5, the Kia-84, the Bf 109 F-4, FM-2 Some nice offerings out there if you have a desire to fly something everybloodybody else is not in already.
5 - fly what you like