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Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: MrCoffee on January 14, 2007, 01:32:57 AM
To find the WMD?
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: joowenn on January 14, 2007, 01:39:10 AM
Hey what country are you from anyways! IRAQ?!
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: JB88 on January 14, 2007, 02:09:14 AM
oh look.  it's nuke.

hi nuke.
Title: Re: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: rabbidrabbit on January 14, 2007, 02:11:55 AM
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Originally posted by MrCoffee
To find the WMD?


Stay away from the cheap stuff.  You will regret it less each morning.
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: AquaShrimp on January 14, 2007, 02:23:08 AM
This administration will go down in history for making more military blunders than any other.

If there were WMDs, the Bush administration let them escape to Syria or Iran.

If there weren't WMDs, then the entire war was a mistake.

Read a book buddy, the average insurgency lasts from 7 to 12 years.  We are in this for the long haul.
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: Catalyst on January 14, 2007, 08:29:06 AM
See Rule #5
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: moot on January 14, 2007, 10:15:02 AM
88, thats not Nuke.
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: Hap on January 14, 2007, 10:18:36 AM
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Originally posted by Catalyst
sure send more troops, more fudder for them Radicals...

bring on the fudder.

while fudder is feed to them radicals.

I'm sure more fudder is needed, yup yup, thats the ticket.


Fodder not fudder


Regards,

hap
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: MrCoffee on January 14, 2007, 02:36:57 PM
No, I actually believe they were WMD in Iraq. However after the fact, its hard not to bring up the subject every now and then.  Jeeze what an intell mistake.
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: VooWho on January 14, 2007, 05:58:37 PM
Well for one thing if there were WMD in Iraq, they could be hiden in the sand. After the invasion some soldies found a half barried Mig-29, and then they found more barried Mig-29 fighters and other top design fighters that Saddam had bought. Maybe Saddam did make WMD but hid them under the sand, so when WMD people came to check, they check no WMD found. Another thing. Iraq did once make a nuclear facility, but the Isrealies bomb the hell out of it. Iraq had the power to make WMD. I believe these WMD are not nukes, but there chemical warheads that well cause alot of deaths, if they struck say Isreal, Kuwait, Iran, or Saudi Arabia. Saddam did us chemical weapons in the war of Iran and Iraq, and he did us them against his own people. But Saddam could have taking one of his (forget the name of the rockets) big rockets and place chemicals and send it flying to Isreal. He did launch these rockets with massive explosions in them to Isreal in the first Gulf War. Remember that U.S. camp he hit killing hundreds of soldiers. He had the tecnology and he could have done it some time in the near future. Saddam wasn't scared of the U.S. If he was he would have giving up his power when Bush said, give up in 72 hours. He did get scared after we did invade him though :) WMD or not if we didn't go to Iraq, the top 2006 story could be, 10,000 Isrealies dead after Iraq sold chemical WMD to Hesbola (How do you spell that) and Iraq launces 5 CWMD towards Kuwait.
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: Hornet33 on January 14, 2007, 07:10:12 PM
Ask the Kurds and the Iranians if Iraq had WMD's. Chemical weapons are considered a weapon of mass destruction and Saddam NEVER lost his ability to manufacture those types of weapons, and he used them.

The WMD question has been asked and answered. Yes he had them, Yes he used them, and YES he was a threat to this country.

NO the war is NOT a mistake.

Have a nice day.
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: Sandman on January 14, 2007, 07:11:47 PM
How was the koolaid?
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: dmf on January 14, 2007, 07:49:08 PM
OK I've said this at work and I've told the idiot armchair generals in my apt complex this so I'l say it here too.

They had WMD's and 6 months got move them out of there before the first troops went in back in '91. What makes the administration think they would leave them there to be found this time?

I think they had them moved away to another country before this current war started.
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: DiabloTX on January 14, 2007, 08:18:11 PM
The koolaid does indeed pour both ways.
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: AquaShrimp on January 14, 2007, 08:22:34 PM
If money could buy WMDs, then terrorists and rogue nations would have them.  

North Korea may have nuclear weapons comparable in size to what the U.S. had in the late 40s.  Look at how long it has taken them to get that.

Gas weapons such as chlorine and mustard gas are not very dangerous.  I wouldn't consider them WMDs.  So finding a few unexploded mustard gas shells is by no means validation.
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: rpm on January 14, 2007, 08:40:54 PM
There are no WMD's to find. They could look for Colin Powell's dignity, but I don't really think he wants to be reminded about it.
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: Hornet33 on January 14, 2007, 08:47:31 PM
OK go hop in a room full of mustard gas and then tell us how it's not that dangerous. Just because YOU don't consider chemical weapons a WMD, the US Government policy is Chemical, Biological, and Nuclear weapons ARE WMD's. He HAD them, used them, and retained the ability to make more. US Troops also FOUND Chemical weapons artillery shells that were supposed to be destroyed after the first gulf war in accordance with the cease fire agreement. YES that IS validation of the existance of WMD's. That is a FACT. The anti Bush folks don't want to admit that though because then they would have to admit that he DID NOT lie. Opps can't have that so they turn it around and say well he didn't have a nuke so Bush lied and the war is unjust.
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: rpm on January 14, 2007, 08:54:27 PM
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Originally posted by Hornet33
US Troops also FOUND Chemical weapons artillery shells that were supposed to be destroyed after the first gulf war in accordance with the cease fire agreement. YES that IS validation of the existance of WMD's. That is a FACT.
Hmm, got link?

What about those scary aluminum tubes? What happened to the yellow cake? Why isn't Colin Powell running to the UN screaming "I told you so!!!"?

Here's a napkin, you've got Kool Aid on your chin.
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: ~Caligula~ on January 15, 2007, 12:55:54 PM
it`s just like vietnam was.more troops,more troops...they`ll achive nothing,and the whole deal will end up in a draw,with both side claiming victory.
i belive it was right to go in there,but it was a mistake to stay. they should have gone in,crush saddam`s army and regime,roll a granade down he`s hole, and get the F out. leave the mess to the iraqis to sort out.if they`re smart they`d rebuild a decent country in no time with all the oil cash. if they`re not,they get another maniac to rule them, and have themselves destroyed again.

i even think that the us of a should start drilling in alaska and stop worrying about mid east oil prices.if the west won`t buy from there because it`s too expensive,the saudis would be hurting bad,being cut off their easy cash,and would be forced to clean up around their hood, not just watch western kids die,so they can buy the 6th mercedes  to drive around in the desert.

as for israel getting attacked with chemical weapons....they know they`d get nuked.that`s why it hasn`t happened so far.
Title: Re: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: straffo on January 15, 2007, 01:22:06 PM
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Originally posted by MrCoffee
To find the WMD?


A lucky one should suffice !
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: Yeager on January 15, 2007, 01:30:06 PM
apparently about 21,000, but I think McCaint wants more.  Billary is close to saying she made a mistake voting for the wHar in the first place, dEdwards and Oblama think we should pull out and do what again?  

The drama continues.......
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: Debonair on January 15, 2007, 09:05:47 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
apparently about 21,000, but I think McCaint wants more.  Billary is close to saying she made a mistake voting for the wHar in the first place, dEdwards and Oblama think we should pull out and do what again?  

The drama continues.......



lol they should com 2 video games BBS 2 find teh answars!!!11:O:aok:aok:aok:cool::cool::cool::noid :noid
or maybe they already does:noid
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: nirvana on January 15, 2007, 09:22:08 PM
I concur with Debonair!  YEAH!
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: dmf on January 16, 2007, 06:39:02 PM
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
If money could buy WMDs, then terrorists and rogue nations would have them.  

North Korea may have nuclear weapons comparable in size to what the U.S. had in the late 40s.  Look at how long it has taken them to get that.

Gas weapons such as chlorine and mustard gas are not very dangerous.  I wouldn't consider them WMDs.  So finding a few unexploded mustard gas shells is by no means validation.


:eek: You don't clean anything in you house using chemicals do you?
Title: how many more soldiers do we need
Post by: bj229r on January 16, 2007, 07:42:23 PM
saw a neat thing today..the way the same event covered by 2 different news organizations can seem SOOOOo different

Did I mention they were covering the SAME event? (saw it in MRC.org)

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2788642

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By DEB RIECHMANN

FORT BENNING, Ga. Jan 11, 2007 (AP)— President Bush, surrounded on Thursday by cheering soldiers in camouflage, defended his decision to send 21,500 more U.S. troops to Iraq and cautioned that the buildup will not produce quick results. "It's going to take awhile," he said.

With Americans overwhelmingly opposed to the increase, Bush said the U.S. commitment to the war was not open-ended although he put no timetable on how long it would last. While more bloodshed can be expected, Bush said, Americans should give the Iraqi government time to prove its resolve to stop violence and unify the nation.

Fort Benning, south of Columbus, Ga., offered Bush a patriotic backdrop and a friendly audience in which to sell his retooled plan for Iraq, which drew heavy fire on Capitol Hill from Democrats and some Republicans. Some 4,000 members of Fort Benning's 3rd Brigade Combat Team are being sent to Iraq earlier than planned because of the president's decision.


Here is how the Times covered the same event:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/12/us/12prexy.html

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Bush Speaks and Base Is Subdued

By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
Published: January 12, 2007

FORT BENNING, Ga., Jan. 11 — President Bush came to this Georgia military base looking for a friendly audience to sell his new Iraq strategy. But his lunchtime talk received a restrained response from soldiers who clapped politely but showed little of the wild enthusiasm that they ordinarily shower on the commander in chief.

Under the new plan, more than 20,000 additional troops will be sent to Iraq, some from Fort Benning who learned Thursday that they would go earlier than expected. But instead of centering his address on the soldiers’ situation, Mr. Bush seemed to be aiming his talk at ordinary Americans and members of Congress who are skeptical of his proposal.

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In his speech, Mr. Bush took note of that, saying, “I appreciate the sacrifices our troops are willing to make.” But he did not dwell on sacrifice; a senior White House official said the president did not want that to be the major theme of his talk.

It was difficult to know how the soldiers felt about returning to the war zone, or the president’s new Iraq plan. Though Mr. Bush’s lunch was open to the press, the base commander, Maj. Gen. Walter Wojdakowski, would not let the troops in attendance talk to reporters. His spokeswoman said the commander wanted “the focus to be on the president.


In other words, the general refused to let Times reporters fish among several thousand soldiers for the few malcontents who would be on the front page the next day, and it thoroughly pissed off SHERYL GAY STOLBERG....