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Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Xasthur on January 14, 2007, 03:07:49 AM
So, I'm half-way through a Bachelor of Arts degree which I started because I have no idea what I want to do for a living, thinking I would get an idea of what I wanted to do fairly easily.

Half-way through my degree I find myself no closer to any sort of idea of what direction I want to take with employment. (I'm majoring in Sociology and Philosophy if that means anything to anyone)

The reason I mention this is because I am wondering what you all do for a living and how you enjoyable or fulfilling you find your work?

Thanks for your time, gents
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: eagl on January 14, 2007, 04:12:00 AM
I r a jet piolot.

No matter what you decide to do, get the degree finished first.  It's worth money...  Lots of money.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Rolex on January 14, 2007, 04:29:02 AM
If I told you the jobs I've done in my lifetime, you wouldn't believe me. I did return to work using my major, eventually. I don't think your situation is too unusual. The odds are pretty good that you'll do more than one type of job in your lifetime.

Have you ever listened in on a conversation between a middle-aged uncle and his young nephews or nieces? Sooner or later, he'll ask something like, "So, little Johnny, what do you want to be when you grow up?"

He's looking for ideas. :)

When people get deep into middle age, they start looking back at their lives and tallying their regrets. Some regret not having learned to play the violin, or followed their dream in a sport or other field when they were young and fit. They regret not having spent more time with some of their family or friends. They regret not having learned to paint, climbed that mountain or flown that plane.

No one ever sits back and sighs, "Gee, I wish I'd spent more time in the office..."

You might as well try to do the exotic while you're young. You can always go back to your degree field.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Scherf on January 14, 2007, 05:31:57 AM
Hmmm.

Figured out how to make a living at your chosen field? Might want to give that some thought as you approach the second half of your degree.

Cheers,

Scherf
[Official Curmudgeon to the Stars]
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Dinger on January 14, 2007, 06:43:45 AM
Bah, university education isn't vocational education, or shouldn't be. A smart employer is one who recognizes intellectual curiosity and professional drive as assets. You don't get any do-overs in life, and there's no guarantee there will be  a tomorrow, so don't let employment concerns cheat you out of an education.

Philosophy is a great field to get an undergraduate degree in: law schools love classics and philosophy dudes; many companies hire professional ethicists for whatever reason. Being trained in systematic thinking has applications for all kinds of stuff.

My work keeps me busy beyond full time. I'm perpetually behind in projects and trying to get everything done, while satisfying my obligations to others in several countries. The pay's not great, but it keeps me living well, and I've been able to live in the US and many places in Europe. My office down at the department of Philosophy isn't big, and I have to share it with some others, but it's got a pretty good view of the Alps.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/97970233_38ebd40d48_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dingerx/97970233/)
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: eskimo2 on January 14, 2007, 08:26:27 AM
I went to college for six and a half years before I chose a major.  I enjoyed school, but decided that I had to move on.  I went to school a second time when I decided what I really wanted to do and earned a degree in that field.  While looking for a job, I worked as a substitute teacher.  Subbing made me decide to go into education; so I was then off to grad school.  Now I’ve been teaching for eight years.  It can be very rewarding.  Knowing that postmen and school bus drivers make much more than I sometimes leaves me wondering why I do what I do for a living.

- Key things to consider:
- Listen to what “they” tell you about future career demands.  (I.E. we have a huge nursing shortage in the US now.)
- If something appeals to you, look into how most folks in that field spend their time.  (Do you really want to work nights, travel, stick your arm up a horses butt, etc.)
- What percentage of graduates find decent jobs in their field?  (When I was hired for my first teaching job, only 1% of applicants in my district were hired.  That’s a huge investment to not get a job a poor paying job.)
- Many fields only pay well if you are willing to start/own your own business.  -  Most folks seem to think that architects earn a great living.  My wife has a degree in architecture yet earned a very modest salary while working in a firm.  Almost all of her classmates found themselves in the same situation.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Nilsen on January 14, 2007, 09:12:44 AM
Atm im a daytrader and are investing in some properties. Who knows what ill do next year, but prolly almost the same.
Title: Re: What you do for a living
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 14, 2007, 09:35:58 AM
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Originally posted by Xasthur
So, I'm half-way through a Bachelor of Arts degree which I started because I have no idea what I want to do for a living, thinking I would get an idea of what I wanted to do fairly easily.

Half-way through my degree I find myself no closer to any sort of idea of what direction I want to take with employment. (I'm majoring in Sociology and Philosophy if that means anything to anyone)

The reason I mention this is because I am wondering what you all do for a living and how you enjoyable or fulfilling you find your work?

Thanks for your time, gents


Do you want fries with that?


I'm just kidding.  There's a demand for people with your major in the CIA and NSA.  I rag on my friend for being a history major all the time, but he's already got a post in the CIA.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Ripsnort on January 14, 2007, 09:56:42 AM
Many HR departments from major companies will pick you up in a heartbeat.  HR is big business these days, especially in the dept of ethics.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Maverick on January 14, 2007, 11:49:49 AM
I don't do anything for a living. I get paid to do nothing and have been since 94 at the age of 40. :p

Well at least that's the first time I retired. I flunked retirement. So far the number of retirements is up to 3 and holding.

The world is a big place and has jobs / careers for many fields. The trick is to pick one that you would enjoy doing for 20 to 40 years. The main crux is not how many $ you get each check, just that you get enough to be comfortable, plan for the time when you won't be working and that you ENJOY going to work each day. It won't matter if the check is big if you hate getting up every day to go to work. It will eventually kill you if that's the case.

That's not to say every day will be all roses. Even a rose has to deal with a bunch of salamanders, but if yo can still enjoy the day and the job in spite of them. You are ahead of the game.

Do some analysis of your own head. What do you WANT to do. What do you HAVE to do to get there. Then go do it. Don't be afraid of changing your mind and doing different things. You can change majors, heck you can change the entire focus of your career. One degree does not make an education. Spread yourself and look in as many directions as you can. Just don't wait until you are 50+ looking at retirment or have a house full of kids to support and then decide you didn't like what you did.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: midnight Target on January 14, 2007, 11:57:59 AM
I majored in Bio-Sci and now I manage at a manufacturing company.

It all makes sense somehow.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Hornet33 on January 14, 2007, 01:37:52 PM
A degree will get you this job........

A job for a person with a degree (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/burgerking.php)

Good luck:D
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: nirvana on January 14, 2007, 01:42:23 PM
I fix cars and I don't even have a high school diploma yet:aok
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Leslie on January 14, 2007, 05:30:34 PM
Not sure you could call it a living....more like a mission from God.:)   Professional artist for 27 years in the pursuit of fine arts.  Some day I'll paint my masterpiece (Bob Dylan.)  If I measured success by income, I would be in a world of hurt today.  Tomorrow may be a different story.

First majored in Psychology at Auburn University.  Did well with Statistics and the math part.  Experimental lab work was not my cup of tea.  Did not want to experiment with rats and monkeys.

Changed major to Foreign Language (Spanish) because I already had 2 years  required by the school of arts and sciences.  For me, Spanish was enjoyable and I knew I better choose a major soon.  Went to Spain for 6 weeks and attended the University of Madrid on the Alabama-Auburn abroad program, and it was there (in Spain) I was inspired to be an artist.  Dropped out of college with about 25 hours remaining (couldn't wait to get started,) and apprenticed to a professional artist for a year.  Went back to school after 12 years and completed my degree in Spanish.  Class of 1990.  Should have been class of 1978.

My devotion is to my artwork.  I don't make much money from it.  What I do is comparable to a gold prospector working on his claim every day...maybe the next strike with the pickax will reveal pay dirt.  It is a dream I live for.  Foolish perhaps, but it keeps me occupied and happy.  Guess artwork is my full time job.  I've been called an entrepreneur.   Far as Spanish goes...am very rusty at it.   Seems many people do not find jobs in their field of study at college.  Even for art majors, only 3 out of 1000 end up being working artists.



A college degree is valuable no matter what the degree is in or whether the degree is related to the job.  Employers feel anyone capable of getting a degree is capable of handling more responsibility.  Now this was some time back I remember hearing employers in all fields were seeking Liberal Arts graduates because of the nature of their education involving the humanities.  And they were having a hard time filling these positions.  As to why, is up to speculation.  Could be these majors go into the teaching field rather than the business world.  

Not trying to tell anyone what to do but, right now, just get the degree.  It will be valuable to your income.  Compatibility with whatever you do for a living or spend all your time at will be of more importance in the long haul.  Good luck.





Les
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: eskimo2 on January 14, 2007, 05:34:20 PM
Leslie,

Post some pictures of your work please; I'd like to see it.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Dux on January 14, 2007, 06:00:03 PM
Best advice I can give someone about a career path is this: While it is great if you can find a career doing something you like, I think it's slightly more important to do something that you're good at. With any luck, you'll find a career that is both.

Think twice before you turn your favorite hobby into a career. You can always have a hobby, but once it's your job, it may become a chore, and you may begin to hate your hobby.

I was lucky to find out early what I am good at, and twice as lucky to actually enjoy it... I'm a technical illustrator and animator.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Leslie on January 14, 2007, 06:04:54 PM
Sure thing Eskimo.  Here's a couple oils I just completed.  Got my inspiration from going deer hunting.  There are lots of similar landscapes on the ride up there.  Haven't painted in 8 years, so did these to see if I still had it in me.  Mostly been doing etchings.  They're on my website Les Thompson etchings (http://www.lesthompsonart.com) .


(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/177_1168818599_cowscapeiii30x42.jpg)


(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/177_1168818751_cowscapeiv24x36.jpg)





Les
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Serenity on January 14, 2007, 06:20:11 PM
No job yet, im too young, but im looking to start off as a profesional glider pilot (Giving tourists rides) when I turn 16 and get my ratings, in order to earn money to get my powered rating, in order to make myself appealing to the United States Air Force where I hope to spen the rest of my life as a career officer.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: moneyguy on January 14, 2007, 06:37:14 PM
<=== moneyguy
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Dux on January 14, 2007, 06:37:38 PM
Serenity, they'll care more about your grades than they will about any kind of civilian pilot rating. They're gonna re-train you anyway... :)

Not to discourage you... get the ratings and have a great time, but keep your grades up... that's what matters.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: RAIDER14 on January 14, 2007, 06:43:57 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Serenity
No job yet, im too young, but im looking to start off as a profesional glider pilot (Giving tourists rides) when I turn 16 and get my ratings, in order to earn money to get my powered rating, in order to make myself appealing to the United States Air Force where I hope to spen the rest of my life as a career officer.


you have to go to college to be a officer now I think
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: vorticon on January 14, 2007, 06:45:11 PM
at the moment, my job is being a labourer for a cribbing company.

within the next month, i'll hopefully be working for the road maintenance company doing ***** work for the mechanics...
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Serenity on January 14, 2007, 06:46:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by RAIDER14
you have to go to college to be a officer now I think


yup.

<----- Praying for acceptance to the Air Force Academy
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: DiabloTX on January 14, 2007, 06:48:16 PM
Les


Wow.


Really good stuff there.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: moneyguy on January 14, 2007, 06:57:24 PM
Quote
Originally posted by RAIDER14
you have to go to college to be a officer now I think



unless you want to fly helicopters for the army.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Maverick on January 14, 2007, 07:11:48 PM
A college education has been required for a commission in the Army for over 30 years that I know of.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: DiabloTX on January 14, 2007, 07:15:30 PM
According to the lastest navy requirements coming down the pipe:

Associates needed for E-7
Bachelors for E-8
Masters for E-9
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Vulcan on January 14, 2007, 07:19:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Leslie
Got my inspiration from going deer hunting.


Ummm who's gonna tell him they ain't deer?
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Sandman on January 14, 2007, 07:20:52 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DiabloTX
According to the lastest navy requirements coming down the pipe:

Associates needed for E-7
Bachelors for E-8
Masters for E-9


As long as the military is paying for it... you would be the fool to turn down the opportunity.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: DiabloTX on January 14, 2007, 07:24:37 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
As long as the military is paying for it... you would be the fool to turn down the opportunity.


I agree.

Too bad the Navy didn't pay for my Associates.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Leslie on January 14, 2007, 07:25:18 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Les


Wow.


Really good stuff there.



Thanks Diablo.  You know, just now looking at one of those paintings I see where I missed a spot.  Need to paint that in.:)




Les
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: DiabloTX on January 14, 2007, 07:29:40 PM
Les - Check your PM's.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Sandman on January 14, 2007, 07:32:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DiabloTX
I agree.

Too bad the Navy didn't pay for my Associates.


I'm in school now with Embry Riddle (http://www.erau.edu/). The vast majority of the students are active duty and if the Navy isn't paying, they're on some GI bill.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Leslie on January 14, 2007, 07:39:53 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DiabloTX
Les - Check your PM's.


PM's checked Diablo.  




Les
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Ripsnort on January 14, 2007, 08:14:24 PM
Quote
Originally posted by eagl
I r a jet piolot.

No matter what you decide to do, get the degree finished first.  It's worth money...  Lots of money.

I used to design the tools that made airplane parts that gave pilots good airplanes to fly, but now I r a project management professional who doles out work to 36 CAD/CAM software testers and keeps us SOX compliant. :D
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Golfer on January 14, 2007, 08:35:06 PM
I drink.   A lot.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: 1K3 on January 14, 2007, 08:51:39 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Serenity
No job yet, im too young, but im looking to start off as a profesional glider pilot (Giving tourists rides) when I turn 16 and get my ratings, in order to earn money to get my powered rating, in order to make myself appealing to the United States Air Force where I hope to spen the rest of my life as a career officer.



Also try to ace your SATs or ACTs, Ace it and you would not believe how many college/university brochures you'll get.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: DieAz on January 14, 2007, 09:12:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Vulcan
Ummm who's gonna tell him they ain't deer?


you ain't never been deer < the 4 legged kind > hunting have you? those paintings are the usual view when deer hunting here in the south.

back on topic, hmmm a living hmmmm, I think I past the point of living and became a zombie. for a job I think I'm a machinist, I can't remember. go in to work never knowing what I'm going to be doing. I do whatever they say they need done. < shrugs > it a job. what I'd like to do for a living, well mmm, beats me. almost 40 and still don't know what I want to do. usually feel like doing nothing.
been thinking about going to college so I can get one of those high paying pointless jobs doing nothing.

p.s. back to Vulcan , yer auntie is a hottie, send her my way. :D :cool:
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Black Sheep on January 14, 2007, 09:20:11 PM
I R a myoosishun - it is teh fun - Currently playing bass with Lone Star and Richard Marx - Yes I know - yee haw  . . . BUT . . . I travel about 125 dates a year, and the other 8 months I'm either producing or writing, or doing absolutely nothing.

I went to college for about 3 years to party and get laid - never got a degree though. Other than that . . . . do what you love - love what you do.

If I go back to school again, it will be for more pilot training and maybe some culinary classes. But no more advanced mathematics :)
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Stringer on January 14, 2007, 09:29:43 PM
Hey DieAZ, I was in Mocksville about 3 weeks ago.  I'm planning another trip there in about 2-3 weeks.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 14, 2007, 09:46:25 PM
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Originally posted by Leslie
There are lots of similar landscapes on the ride up there.  Haven't painted in 8 years, so did these to see if I still had it in me.  Mostly been doing etchings.  They're on my website Les Thompson etchings (http://www.lesthompsonart.com) .

Les


Wow. now thats art

Real art

Nice stuff
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 14, 2007, 09:52:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Serenity
yup.

<----- Praying for acceptance to the Air Force Academy


Praying?  Either be confident in yourself, or have your backups already lined up.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Serenity on January 14, 2007, 09:59:53 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lasersailor184
Praying?  Either be confident in yourself, or have your backups already lined up.


Well, all of my life, I have been smarter than the class a year ahead of me. After studying in public school in 5th grade, I tested in the top 1% of the 7th grade in a privat school on the SSATs. I WAS confident. But somehow this year, entering my freshman year, for the first time EVER I have had difficulty studying the material. And im not even in honors classes, im the level just below (2 levels above average, one level below honors). THATS why im worried. That and the PT is hard. The pushups and the like are fine, but my mile run is DREADFUL.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Bad31st on January 14, 2007, 10:00:33 PM
I'm a network administrator.

In my field a degree isn't really necessary for one to be functional however it is required for nearly all positions that will pay competitive wages.

Probably the best advice I've been given is to do what you love ( or at least enjoy doing) and the money will follow.  I know very few people who's degrees have translated directly into employment. For example, my Dad's degree is in secondary education - he has never taught a day of school in his life and has held several VP positions for a couple of different software companies and currently owns an IT consulting firm.  The Chief Network Architech at my company has a PHD in chemistry.  

The point is that these people have all done well for two reasons Dedication/hard work and they had a degree to get their foot in the door.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: eagl on January 15, 2007, 04:00:26 AM
Serenity

Regarding an Academy application, I have a few tips.

1.  Don't give up.  I got accepted the second year I applied.  Keep applying until they tell you you're too old.
2.  Pad your application with everything you can.  Get into school council, join a club or two that have something to do with athletics, leadership, engineering, or flying.  Even better is if you take any kind of leadership role in the clubs, but membership is better than nothing.
3.  Do sports.  As much as possible.  Lettering is best but participation is better than nothing.
4.  Work on that run.  I guarantee you that if you get accepted, you will appreciate every second you spent preparing for the run.  Imagine the runs you're doing now, but at 7,000 ft altitude carrying field gear in the rain with instructors "encouraging" you to not be the weak link...
5.  Test and test again.  Take the SAT and ACT tests until you're no longer eligible, to get the highest possible score.
6.  If you get passed up, don't enlist.  Instead, go to college and re-apply, adding your college courses to your application.  Any college will do.  I screwed up my State University applications and ended up having to go to a local community college for a year, but the Academy admissions process didn't hold that against me.  It helped that I swam at the intercollegiate level...
7.  Did I mention sports?  Getting blue-chipped as an athlete is a great way to boost your entrance application score.  And you really need to be in good shape because running at altitude sucks until your body adjusts.
8.  Your interaction with your congressman and his/her staff is for the sole purpose of convincing them that you are not only the best candidate, but are also going to graduate and serve in the military.  If you get the congressman's selection group behind your application, you can really boost your chances of getting in.

If you want to better prepare for the 1.5 mile run, you should always run farther than the test length.  A 1.5 mile fitness test at altitude "feels" about like a 2 to 2.5 mile run at sea level, so when doing practice tests, try to run at least 2 miles as if you're running the shorter test.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: DiabloTX on January 15, 2007, 04:13:02 AM
What eagl said.

I'd also like to add that on military apps they are starting to look at civil volunteer work.  If you have some time off you might want to see if you can volunteer at a youth center or some kind of helping/outreach organization.  My senior officers have been preaching that alot the last year or so.  If they are preaching it, there's a reason why.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Saintaw on January 15, 2007, 05:44:51 AM
Majored in history of art, and I am now an "it consultant". Whadayakno' ? Done many jobs, will probably do more. I swear to be a florist in my next life though.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: eskimo2 on January 15, 2007, 05:46:41 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Serenity
Well, all of my life, I have been smarter than the class a year ahead of me. After studying in public school in 5th grade, I tested in the top 1% of the 7th grade in a privat school on the SSATs. I WAS confident. But somehow this year, entering my freshman year, for the first time EVER I have had difficulty studying the material. And im not even in honors classes, im the level just below (2 levels above average, one level below honors). THATS why im worried. That and the PT is hard. The pushups and the like are fine, but my mile run is DREADFUL.


Awesome dude!  And you live in “Hnolulu Hawaii”?
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: eskimo2 on January 15, 2007, 05:50:17 AM
Leslie,

Cool stuff; I like the ones on your site even more, especially the riverboats and shrimp boats.  Do you sell much?
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Eagler on January 15, 2007, 06:26:43 AM
get your little piece of paper .. does it really matter what is printed on it?
it seems to mean allot to others (or their parents) who paid high dollar for their little piece of paper and will not hire you without one ....
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: -Concho- on January 15, 2007, 09:15:33 AM
Quote
Originally posted by eskimo2
Leslie,

Post some pictures of your work please; I'd like to see it.


I have a Les Thompson signed print hanging in my living room.  :)
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Maverick on January 15, 2007, 11:28:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Eagler
get your little piece of paper .. does it really matter what is printed on it?
it seems to mean allot to others (or their parents) who paid high dollar for their little piece of paper and will not hire you without one ....


Why not? You work for a piece of paper don't you? Isn't your paycheck a piece of paper? Aren't the bills of fiat in your pocket mere pieces of paper?
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Shuffler on January 15, 2007, 12:40:16 PM
The shame is... I have found far more intelligent folks with no degree than with a degree. Too many career students these days. We have far more success looking for folks with experience and not paper.

My brother and I own a small metal fabrication and machining company with 28 employees.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Vulcan on January 15, 2007, 01:45:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bad31st
I'm a network administrator.

In my field a degree isn't really necessary for one to be functional however it is required for nearly all positions that will pay competitive wages.

Probably the best advice I've been given is to do what you love ( or at least enjoy doing) and the money will follow.  I know very few people who's degrees have translated directly into employment. For example, my Dad's degree is in secondary education - he has never taught a day of school in his life and has held several VP positions for a couple of different software companies and currently owns an IT consulting firm.  The Chief Network Architech at my company has a PHD in chemistry.  

The point is that these people have all done well for two reasons Dedication/hard work and they had a degree to get their foot in the door.


^ what he said. I'm a networking/security product presales engineer (best description I can fit to me). For us industry certs are far more important than degrees (such as certs from the likes of Cisco, Juniper, or specialized vendor certification). Some stuff can be extremely niche and make you unique in the job market - I have one cert of which I know I am one of only two people qualified on this product in NZ (big email security/antispam appliance).
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Leslie on January 15, 2007, 03:48:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Wow. now thats art

Real art

Nice stuff




Thank you Dred.  



Les
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 15, 2007, 03:52:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Maverick
A college education has been required for a commission in the Army for over 30 years that I know of.



You don't need a commission to fly helicopters in the Army.  That's why they have Warrant Officers.


ack-ack
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Leslie on January 15, 2007, 04:10:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by eskimo2
Leslie,

Cool stuff; I like the ones on your site even more, especially the riverboats and shrimp boats.  Do you sell much?



Hi Eskimo.  Thank you for your input.  Practically all those etchings (except the Auburn ones) were done back in the early 80s, though the coloring part is a bit more recent.  Yes, I've sold quite a few either by myself or through galleries over the years.  Always better to sell on my own because galleries take up to a 50% commission usually.  That means whatever price you see in a gallery, the artist gets about half of that.   This is pretty much standard in the art business.  




Les
Title: Re: What you do for a living
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 15, 2007, 04:11:59 PM
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Originally posted by Xasthur
So, I'm half-way through a Bachelor of Arts degree which I started because I have no idea what I want to do for a living, thinking I would get an idea of what I wanted to do fairly easily.

Half-way through my degree I find myself no closer to any sort of idea of what direction I want to take with employment. (I'm majoring in Sociology and Philosophy if that means anything to anyone)

The reason I mention this is because I am wondering what you all do for a living and how you enjoyable or fulfilling you find your work?

Thanks for your time, gents


I received my degree in Liberal Farts..err Arts back in '92 from CSUSB because at the time I had no idea what I wanted to do.  My parents were pushing me to follow every other male in my family and major in Internation Business and then get a law degree but I found that to be boring and not something I wanted to do.  At the time all I wanted to do was working in the computer gaming industry but my advisors always laughed at me saying that I'd never make a living working in that industry.

So I picked a major that would allow me to sleep in until noon, which was Liberal Arts and when I left college my first  two jobs where at gaming hardware companies then later moved on to a gaming company where I cut my teeth doing first party QA.  Doing that for a couple of years, I transfered over to the company's online division and worked in the community relations part for a couple of the company's online games.  After a 5 year stint, I got another job at a major game developer up here in Los Angeles in a newly created division the company recently started up.  So basically, my department has oversight of the community and online departments as well as creating and writing online policy and procedure for our online games, training manuals and training programs for new hires and acting as liasons between our online division and other departments.  I love it.

And my parents said playing computer games as a kid would never pay off.

ack-ack
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Leslie on January 15, 2007, 04:24:46 PM
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Originally posted by -Concho-
I have a Les Thompson signed print hanging in my living room.  :)




Hiya Concho.:)   Good to see you.  Hope things are going well for you.  Haven't seen you in the game for awhile.  I keep the hat safe and sound in storage.  I think one of these times I'm gonna take it up to the hunting camp and wear it during the Saturday night festivities.  Everyone will get a kick out of that.  My buddies think that's one of the coolest things they've ever seen.  Thanks again and take care.  





Les
Title: Re: Re: What you do for a living
Post by: midnight Target on January 15, 2007, 04:46:34 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I received my degree in Liberal Farts..err Arts back in '92 from CSUSB because at the time I had no idea what I wanted to do.
ack-ack


I did a short stint at CSUSB.. you from the Inland Empire ack ack?
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Serenity on January 15, 2007, 04:53:41 PM
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Originally posted by eskimo2
Awesome dude!  And you live in “Hnolulu Hawaii”?


Well, the first part is great, right now im paralyzed with fear that I failed my first semester of algebra (I think I ****ed up on the final exam :cry). But yeah, live in Hawaii.

On sports, im a damned good shot with a gun, and I was told that by profesional marksmen, so im going to go for my school's air riflery team. We dont have a ROTC, so I join Civil Air Patrol. Im going to go for soccer next year as well, but there is no way in hell I can do football. Im a 100 pound white kid in a school where 200+ is the average, and beating up white kids is a sport. Id like to survive my high school years thank-you-very-much ;) I have signed up to volunteer down at the Pacific Aviation Museum, and does it matter WHICH senator gives you the recomendation? My aunt and uncle are quite close with the New Mexico senator...

So, sports and volunteer work?

(I know the runs at altitude are hard, this month I did a two week boot-camp at 6k. I was nearly killed I think. I was the only kid I have ever heard of to get hypothermia in Hawaii...)
Title: Re: Re: Re: What you do for a living
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 15, 2007, 04:55:34 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I did a short stint at CSUSB.. you from the Inland Empire ack ack?


Nope,  just the time I spent there at CSUSB.


ack-ack
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: moneyguy on January 15, 2007, 05:22:57 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
A college education has been required for a commission in the Army for over 30 years that I know of.



not for a warrant officer
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: cav58d on January 15, 2007, 06:22:30 PM
What do I do for a living?  well....."I'll have the chicken Captain!  Enjoy that prime cut!" hehe

And in regards to Warrants and College.  No, a college degree is not a requirement, but credit hours are necessary to be competitive.  When my final application goes through, I will be applying with a Masters degree.  I know quit a few guys with Bachelor's, and +3.0 gpa's, who have been FQ-NS when applying to WOCS.  

goodluck.

And whoever that 16 year old was that said he wanted to fly gliders....well.....first of all it wouldn't be legal, and second, there is no fluff'n way in hell I would ever let you fly me in a glider!  lmfao

have fun with the air force.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Serenity on January 15, 2007, 06:39:35 PM
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Originally posted by cav58d
well.....first of all it wouldn't be legal, and second, there is no fluff'n way in hell I would ever let you fly me in a glider!  lmfao

have fun with the air force.


Thats me. Yeah its legal. Im 14 now, and have 7.5 hours. I solo at 14, and minimum age for liscence is 16. I liscence then, get my commercial rating after private, and my instructor also runs a buisness, so I am training in the exact plane I would be flying customers in. I think you would enjoy flying with me, I am quite chatty, but Im not too bad at it. Ive had several rope breaks so far, and have recovered excellently.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Golfer on January 15, 2007, 06:43:40 PM
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Originally posted by cav58d
And whoever that 16 year old was that said he wanted to fly gliders....well.....first of all it wouldn't be legal, and second, there is no fluff'n way in hell I would ever let you fly me in a glider!  lmfao


It is legal, Cav.  Check 61.103 :O 16 for private glider certificate.  I still think 18 applies to commercial pilots even for the glider rating.  I haven't had to dig through that in a while, though.

Just remember you're PIC.

Papers.  Ice and Coffee.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Serenity on January 15, 2007, 06:52:21 PM
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Originally posted by Golfer
It is legal, Cav.  Check 61.103 :O 16 for private glider certificate.  I still think 18 applies to commercial pilots even for the glider rating.  I haven't had to dig through that in a while, though.

Just remember you're PIC.

Papers.  Ice and Coffee.


lol. I think commercial is 16 too. I could be wrong, but I dont think so. Right now its a new pair of pants I need to remember. My instructor is the only qualified aerobatics instructor on the island too, and like to toss in hammerheads and loops without warning during our sessions... I remember the first time he did, it was only me second flight in a glider...
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Golfer on January 15, 2007, 06:53:13 PM
Ok so you're Reynolds?
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Serenity on January 15, 2007, 07:08:29 PM
Yup. Thought I screwed up some setting on 'Reynolds' when I couldnt remain logged in, and created this one. (Sorry again HTC)
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: cav58d on January 15, 2007, 07:12:28 PM
thats no joke Golfer.  lmao.  Signature is the best for that.  Every time i've gone through one, they buggy lug it out to the plane for me in one of their "follow me" carts!  =).  I'm also learning to love "Atlantic's" $5/100 points...When the expense amount runs out for a meal, thats a golden ticket! lmao.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Ripsnort on January 15, 2007, 07:17:04 PM
I was just reading this thread, and thinking what I would post in another 5 years....I don't think I've had a profession held down for longer than 7 years.

Started off as an adult as a roofer at 18 after graduation.
Then a Overhead Spindle Machine Operator (Machinist).
Then a Jig Builder (Tool maker job classification).
Then a Bartender.
Then a Tool Maker again.
Then an NC Programmer.
Then a CNC (Computer Numerical Control) Operator.
Then a Tool Designer.
Then an Engineering Software Analyst.
Now a Project Management Professional.

Thats 9 professions in 28 years. Average 1 profession every 3 years. :rolleyes:
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Golfer on January 15, 2007, 07:17:55 PM
Sign up for Avtrip, Pilots+ and all the hotel programs.

For every 5000 avtrip points you earn you get a $50 savings bond.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Halo on January 15, 2007, 07:23:11 PM
The key is I hope you find work you LOVE doing.  Then it will be such pleasure and joy that you will have fulfillment many others seek all their life and never find.  

I got a major scholarship in one field (music) and a minor in another (journalism).  Since the draft was still on, I decided AFROTC would be a smart move.  

I switched out of the music major after the first year in college because I decided I wasn't a good enough musician.  Then majored in English/Lit with a journalism minor.  Planned to be a great wire service correspondent.

But the Air Force was okay.  So I stayed 20 years, retired, planned to write fiction and be famous.  Unfortunately, I don't enjoy making stuff up when real life is so fascinating.  So I've never gotten around to writing my novel yet.  

But I do still play clarinet/sax in the community band.  Obvious lesson: unless you find a career you really love, you gotta find something you do well enough to earn a living so you can fund your other main interests.  

Public affairs is great but the 24/7 anticipating everything and keeping everyone cooperative and happy can get very old after a decade or two.  

Later I took a test and found my true aptitude is research.  Little late to find that out, but I do it all the time for pleasure.  

I stayed in public affairs long enough to get the last kid through college, taught college several years part-time, and am now working on world peace.  See?  There is no limit to your possibilities.  Just try to find the work that you LOVE to do best.  

I know a few people like that who never retire because they're doing what they enjoy doing most.  Paradoxically, it then isn't so much work for them as pleasure.  Because of their enthusiasm as well as skill and experience, they are the top of their profession and paid extremely well.  

Yes, a few can have it all, and you might be one of them if you pinpoint your passion early enough and nurture it skillfully.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: eskimo2 on January 15, 2007, 07:36:55 PM
So is, “Hnolulu Hawaii” anywhere near “Honolulu Hawaii”?
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Serenity on January 15, 2007, 07:43:34 PM
lol. Some of the keys on this board stick. Here is a scentence I dont go back and correct:

some of the keys onthis keybboard stic and so things dont always hw up when i want them too.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Old Sport on January 16, 2007, 12:26:49 AM
Airborne fire-control radar tech in the military.

Worked at a Wildlife Safari.

Firefighter for 8 years.

Technical writer in telcom for 10 years.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: nickf620 on January 16, 2007, 12:36:12 AM
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Originally posted by Serenity
lol. Some of the keys on this board stick. Here is a scentence I dont go back and correct:

some of the keys onthis keybboard stic and so things dont always hw up when i want them too.


i used to have a stockpile of extra keyboards

but you are about 2 months late had to give them to other people with the same problem
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Serenity on January 16, 2007, 12:51:09 AM
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Originally posted by nickf620
i used to have a stockpile of extra keyboards

but you are about 2 months late had to give them to other people with the same problem


Eh. This is a desktop keyboard im using because the keybpard on this laptop which my cousin gave me used, only has 6 keys that work. And this one sticks... so I can either live with this or just post things from my desktop. Im going to live with this ;)
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Vulcan on January 16, 2007, 01:13:00 AM
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Originally posted by Serenity
lol. Some of the keys on this board stick. Here is a scentence I dont go back and correct:

some of the keys onthis keybboard stic and so things dont always hw up when i want them too.


Sticky keys huh ;)
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: eagl on January 16, 2007, 01:34:31 AM
Well Vulcan, he's about the right age...
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Casca on January 16, 2007, 02:29:45 AM
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Originally posted by Serenity
lol. I think commercial is 16 too. I could be wrong, but I dont think so. Right now its a new pair of pants I need to remember.


18 61.123
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 16, 2007, 03:00:43 AM
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Originally posted by Serenity
Thats me. Yeah its legal. Im 14 now, and have 7.5 hours. I solo at 14, and minimum age for liscence is 16. I liscence then, get my commercial rating after private, and my instructor also runs a buisness, so I am training in the exact plane I would be flying customers in. I think you would enjoy flying with me, I am quite chatty, but Im not too bad at it. Ive had several rope breaks so far, and have recovered excellently.



As long as you have an equal amount of take offs to landings, it's all good.


ack-ack
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Serenity on January 16, 2007, 04:08:55 AM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
As long as you have an equal amount of take offs to landings, it's all good.


ack-ack


lol Yessir! Interestingly, all of my near-disasters have been on takeoff...

And no, thats not why the keys stick, lol. Its dust. I live right near a freeway.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Golfer on January 16, 2007, 12:25:37 PM
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Originally posted by Serenity
And no, thats not why the keys stick, lol. Its dust. I live right near a freeway.


Not only in 7.5 hours have you had numerous near disasters but you fib about your sticky keys.

Good god man all you had to say was you spilled cherry coke or beer.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Serenity on January 16, 2007, 10:25:40 PM
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Originally posted by Golfer
Not only in 7.5 hours have you had numerous near disasters but you fib about your sticky keys.

Good god man all you had to say was you spilled cherry coke or beer.


lol. Well, they werent really disasters, they just seemed like it to someone new to flight. they were:

1) Takeoff from a very slippery runway. Plane skidded on takeoff, rotated 90 degrees to the left, and nearly crashed right wingtip into runway. Cause: A rather large puddle. I recovered perfectly said instructor.

2) On another aero-tow, gusts caused the already ineffective aelerons on 233 to become unresponsive. Cause: Nothing. 233s just do that. Recovery: a bit of sweat, but as soon as we released everything cleared up.

3) Running OVER rope on auto-tow, and subsequent rope break at 400ft. Cause: Car got a flat tire, slowing down for a second, and causing us to move faster then the rope. Rope break cause was just wear and tear. Recovery: Perfect according to instructors. Perfect downwinf landing with proper flare. My best landing yet in fact.

And would you like to see a photo from my bedroom window? The islands largest freeway is just 20ft way ;)
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Estes on January 16, 2007, 10:43:50 PM
I do tattoos.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: DiabloTX on January 17, 2007, 12:04:37 AM
Well, to answer his original question I am titled "Network Engineer" but it's actually closer to "Network Monitor".
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Silat on January 17, 2007, 02:35:07 AM
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Originally posted by Dinger
Bah, university education isn't vocational education, or shouldn't be. A smart employer is one who recognizes intellectual curiosity and professional drive as assets. You don't get any do-overs in life, and there's no guarantee there will be  a tomorrow, so don't let employment concerns cheat you out of an education.

Philosophy is a great field to get an undergraduate degree in: law schools love classics and philosophy dudes; many companies hire professional ethicists for whatever reason. Being trained in systematic thinking has applications for all kinds of stuff.

My work keeps me busy beyond full time. I'm perpetually behind in projects and trying to get everything done, while satisfying my obligations to others in several countries. The pay's not great, but it keeps me living well, and I've been able to live in the US and many places in Europe. My office down at the department of Philosophy isn't big, and I have to share it with some others, but it's got a pretty good view of the Alps.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/97970233_38ebd40d48_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dingerx/97970233/)


What is your philosophy on organization?:)

             :)
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: DiabloTX on January 17, 2007, 02:42:29 AM
The better question is...why the microfiche machine?
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Mark Luper on January 17, 2007, 02:46:40 AM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
The better question is...why the microfiche machine?


Not everything has been digitized yet?

Mark
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: DiabloTX on January 17, 2007, 02:50:17 AM
That would be the obvious answer.  

I guess I'm more interested in knowing what is it that he has to use the microfiche for that hasn't been digitized yet.

I used one at the Mercedes repair shop that I managed but they have since upgraded to completely digitized parts diagrams.

PS - How's the rum and coke?
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Mark Luper on January 17, 2007, 02:52:25 AM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
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PS - How's the rum and coke?


Great!:D

Mark
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Rino on January 17, 2007, 11:53:13 AM
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Originally posted by DieAz
you ain't never been deer < the 4 legged kind > hunting have you? those paintings are the usual view when deer hunting here in the south.

back on topic, hmmm a living hmmmm, I think I past the point of living and became a zombie. for a job I think I'm a machinist, I can't remember. go in to work never knowing what I'm going to be doing. I do whatever they say they need done. < shrugs > it a job. what I'd like to do for a living, well mmm, beats me. almost 40 and still don't know what I want to do. usually feel like doing nothing.
been thinking about going to college so I can get one of those high paying pointless jobs doing nothing.

p.s. back to Vulcan , yer auntie is a hottie, send her my way. :D :cool:


     Well I know they're not near Tallahassee, because they are missing the
large flourescent orange "COW" painted on their flanks.  Sure enough some
knucklehead manages to bag one of them thar "Smart Deer" :D
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Yknurd on January 17, 2007, 12:20:25 PM
I am a mail order husband.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: republic on January 17, 2007, 12:26:16 PM
I'm a technology director for a school district, and I teach an advanced computers class.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: bsdaddict on January 17, 2007, 12:52:36 PM
unix systems administrator
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Reschke on January 17, 2007, 01:12:16 PM
North American Sales Manager for an international pipe manufacturer. I get to travel all over the US and go to Europe 2-3 times a year. Pay is decent and the travel is less than what you might think. My Bachelor's degree is in Exercise Science with a minor in US History. I have worked in many jobs but none were as fun as being the head of security for a heavy metal rock club here in Birmingham while in college and playing football. Talk about having the best of every imaginable world for a 22 year old guy.

During that time I got to hang out with lots of pro baseball, basketball and football players and had job offers to go on tour with a few bands like Collective Soul, Superchunk and The Dave Matthews Band in their early days when they were opening for other bands in between their college band gigs.
Title: What you do for a living
Post by: Dinger on January 18, 2007, 12:25:23 AM
Philosophy on Organization? My officemate claims the best solution to the office organizational problem would be to rectify the gender imbalance of the office. An office full of men will look like a man's office.

I personally don't have a problem with the organization. It's actually a person- and task- oriented stack system. So if I need something, I go to the desk where I was working on it last, and dig to the layer that corresponds to the last time I used it.

Last spring, however, we hit a "tipping point", where it was easier to print out new copies than go search for the old ones. That's when you clean the office.

Microfilm (and Fiche) reader: A lot of our material (images of medieval manuscripts) is conserved on microfilm. 50 years ago, this was the only solution. Today, we can buy digital photos, but libraries are conservative when it comes to these things, and many still don't offer this option. For those that do, they often still have a microfilm of the text, and it's far cheaper to make a copy of the microfilm than pay a professional photographer to shoot an entire book. Furthermore, microfilms can last hundreds of years in storage, without human intervention. Digital formats can last that long only under constant maintenance (say once every ten years or so). So we get stuff on Microfilm. The microfilms we work on heavily, I scan in. On the network, I've set up a repository with those images, and the files we're working on (along with a simple revision control system), so that, in theory, I can do most of my work from anywhere in the world with an internet connection.

But we still use the reader.