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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Bodhi on January 14, 2007, 07:26:56 PM
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Good night San Diego!
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Marty=Linda Lovelace. :)
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Go Pats!!!
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Marty=Linda Lovelace. :)
When did Linda ever "choke"?
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Pats got lucky with the interception that was fumbled. It was obvious that San Diego was the better team. Not to mention the no call when Rivers got hit in the head after spiking the ball.
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Originally posted by Cougar68
Pats got lucky with the interception that was fumbled. It was obvious that San Diego was the better team. Not to mention the no call when Rivers got hit in the head after spiking the ball.
I disagree. Rivers is not a SB QB. Rivers is just an avg. QB who had an unusual remarkable and he had the luxury of having an extrememly talented RB to take the pressure off Rivers.
They should have kept Drew. Fools.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
When did Linda ever "choke"?
She only choked on the big ones...which Marty does too. ;)
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GO BEARS!!!!!!!!:aok
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
They should have kept Drew. Fools.
No way in hell was Drew Brees going to stay in San Diego. Brees did'nt like the coaching staff, the players or the city itself. Looks like he has found a home in Nawlins.
And let me be the first (unless somebodyelse already has) to predict Nawlins to win the Super Bowl. There are several reasons for this:
A) If the NFL is fixed, Nawlins is the Cinderella story of all Cinderella stories.
B) If it's not fixed, they have the Mojo and the momentum.
C) Because they are the best looking TEAM I have seen all year.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I disagree. Rivers is not a SB QB. Rivers is just an avg. QB who had an unusual remarkable and he had the luxury of having an extrememly talented RB to take the pressure off Rivers.
They should have kept Drew. Fools.
Trent Dilfer wasn't a superbowl QB either but he's wearing the ring. (although if the officials had gotten it right the Titans would've been in that year, but I digress) Even Tom Brady wasn't your typical gunslinger in his first superbowl. What it takes is to be efficient and Rivers definitely can do that. The team as a whole was the best the NFL has to offer. Unfortunately the AFC wasn't able to put it's two best teams in the championship game.
Had Drew Brees not torn up his shoulder last year they might've kept him. With the amount they have invested in Rivers they had to go one way or the other.
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I didnt post my Picks here, but I did win the Indy-Baltimore Game.
Ripsnort thats a pretty big assumption considering Philip Rivers had one of the top 10 QB Ratings in the NFL. And is probably one of the best QBs in the NFL this year. With only 20 games and 1 post season loss under his belt, he is showing to me that he has the power to be a SB winning QB.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/byposition
3,388 (4th) yards, 22 TD's (8th), 9 INTS (T-2 with PManning in top 10 QBs)
and had an average of 211 yards a game.
Should they have stayed with Drew Brees?
Maybe...
But I think that what the Chargers lack is an all-star Wide Out. Like the Ravens, the Chargers depend on there all star tight-end, which is ok, but on those long 3rd and Uh-Ohs you need an all star Reciever to make plays deep.
This may be the NFC's year for a Championship.
SUPER BOWL XLI
New Orleans and Indy.
Manning will finally get payback on the Pats this time at home and in the dome and The Saints will stun the Bears.
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Regarding Rivers, one year....he's had one good year.
Regarding upcoming games, my head says the Colts will win, but the heart says Pats go all the way. They've been there, done that...they have nothing to lose, Colts are in the spotlight and the pressure is on Manning.
NO will easily beat the Bears IMO.
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Originally posted by Cougar68
Pats got lucky with the interception that was fumbled. It was obvious that San Diego was the better team. Not to mention the no call when Rivers got hit in the head after spiking the ball.
LOL pathetic excuse, cry me a river beotch.
The Pats are the better team as they won. Even though they played like crap all game.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I disagree. Rivers is not a SB QB. Rivers is just an avg. QB who had an unusual remarkable and he had the luxury of having an extrememly talented RB to take the pressure off Rivers.
They should have kept Drew. Fools.
Could be worse you could have Eli.
And I would of loved to have kept Rivers and then use the pick on Merriman like the Bolts did.
Eli is in a bubble here every play is disceted by everybody. I swear in one game the announcers annointed him at least 3 times and buried him at least 4. And he always has the look like he would rather be playin aces high, then playin
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Originally posted by Cougar68
The team as a whole was the best the NFL has to offer. Unfortunately the AFC wasn't able to put it's two best teams in the championship game.
lol, I haven't heard a whine like that since Kordell Stewart
Baltimore and San Diego were exposed
Baltimore's vanilla offense was pathetic, but what else can you do with immobile offensive linemen? I did not see one O-lineman leading a screen or stretch play, I can't remember seeing them even attempt one. It was off tackle, off tackle, med pass. It was so predictable it made the Colt defense look like world beaters. The better team won.
San Diego's secondary couldn't cover Reche Caldwell, nuff said. The better team won.
I will say this, if the Patriots lose next week they won't cry about the officiating, or ask for the rules to be changed and cry the better team didn't win.(like a team from Indy has)
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I'll continue to disagree. San Diego is the best team in the NFL bar none. I'm not a Charger fan, never have been. I've felt that the Bolts are the best for several weeks now and haven't seen anything that make me think differently. The best team doesn't always win the game. Surely you've seen enough football to figure that one out. The only thing that the Pats had over San Diego is exotic defensive schemes.
You can honestly put the homer hat away and say that the pats are the cream of the AFC field? Hmmmm... And Indy? Hmmmm..... At least the media has their Manning vs. Brady matchup to talk about all week. Haven't heard enough about that one....
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Originally posted by Cougar68
San Diego is the best team in the NFL bar none.
No, they will be watching the SB
I've felt that the Bolts are the best for several weeks now and haven't seen anything that make me think differently.
You saw yesterday
The best team doesn't always win the game.
lol! You are Kordell Stewart
Surely you've seen enough football to figure that one out.
Obviously, you have not.
The only thing that the Pats had over San Diego is exotic defensive schemes.
yeah, besides a better QB, better coaching staff, better defensive schemes, better offensive schemes, more clutch players who remain cool under pressure, I can't figure out how in the world they could have won!
You can honestly put the homer hat away and say that the pats are the cream of the AFC field?
Well, lets see. Three Superbowls in five years, a 12-4 record this year, best QB in the NFL, best coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, I guess that makes the choking Chargers the cream of the field huh?
I think your homer hat fell over your eyes and is blinding you.
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Both teams tried desperately to lose that game. But the Chargers preservered and showed the kind of ineptitude required for such a timeless meltdown.
As for you Rip; Let me get this straight... If you think Rivers is a decent to excellent QB, you are wrong because "he's only had one year." But if you think that Rivers is "No Superbowl QB", one year is sufficient to make the determination? Makes sense to me, after all most Superbowl wining QBs showed a lot more in their first years as starters.
-Sik
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Both teams tried desperately to lose that game. But the Chargers preservered and showed the kind of ineptitude required for such a timeless meltdown.
As for you Rip; Let me get this straight... If you think Rivers is a decent to excellent QB, you are wrong because "he's only had one year." But if you think that Rivers is "No Superbowl QB", one year is sufficient to make the determination? Makes sense to me, after all most Superbowl wining QBs showed a lot more in their first years as starters.
-Sik
Hurts, doesn't it?
(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/8668097/222506890.jpg)
nice pass by Rivers to Pats #59 late in the game...a SB caliber QB doesn't usually make those mistakes...Rivers did, and now he's watching the game like you and I.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
a SB caliber QB doesn't usually make those mistakes...Rivers did, and now he's watching the game like you and I.
I seem to remember Brady throwing ducks for int's 3 times during the game.....
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Originally posted by Cougar68
I seem to remember Brady throwing ducks for int's 3 times during the game.....
I also remember 2 TD passes. And I remember his trademark clutch throws on the final drive to win the game
Look, it's popular to say the Chargers have better players, but I can't agree with that.
Take Shawne Merriman vs Mike Vrabel. Now on the face of it, you would take Merriman hands down wouldn't you? And alot of people would, except maybe the Patriots. And that's because they do a good job of evaluating the intangibles.
Versatility, Vrabel can play any of the LB positions in the 4-3 or 3-4, knowing all the coverage responsibilties of a very complex defense that changes week to week. Can line up as TE, has 8 receptions, all for TD's, I believe he has never dropped a pass.
Is clutch, has always come up with a big play in clutch situations. Even back when he was with the Steelers, he stripped Drew Bledsoe in the final seconds to seal a 7-6 playoff victory. Put the pressure on Kurt Warner, leading to an errant pass and a Ty Law pick for a TD in SB XXXVI. Sack and strip of Jake Delhomme in SB XXXVIII(also had a TD reception). Also had a sack and a TD reception in Sb XXXIX. Is always coming up big in big games, has great football smarts.
Now, Shawne Merriman is a great physical player who can rush the passer and raise havoc along the line of scrimmage, he's an elite player in this league. But Mike Vrabel is the more versatile player, the smarter player, and as proven on the field, the better clutch, big game player.
So Shawn Merriman will have 17 sacks a season, but in what was the biggest playoff showdown of the weekend, Shawne Merriman had 2 tackles and a sack, while Mike Vrabel had 6 tackles, a sack and a forced fumble.
So if you want to say that San Diego has better athletes, so be it. But i'll debate every position as far as being a better football player.
And remember, the coaching staff is part of a team, but I don't think you're gonna want to go there.
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There's obviously no way either you or I are going to back down from our beliefs. You're a Pats homer and I'm a Pats hater. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Hurts, doesn't it?
(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/8668097/222506890.jpg)
nice pass by Rivers to Pats #59 late in the game...a SB caliber QB doesn't usually make those mistakes...Rivers did, and now he's watching the game like you and I.
Yeah, it does suck watching your team lose a game like that.
However, that doesn't change the fact that there is no more evidence to back up your position, than there is to back up the exact opposite position.
-Sik
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Yeah, it does suck watching your team lose a game like that.
However, that doesn't change the fact that there is no more evidence to back up your position, than there is to back up the exact opposite position.
-Sik
Who said "fact"? I simply stated my opinion. Like it or not, "Rivers" won't be a name in the hall of fame, but it might be something Marty will float down soon...
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Who said "fact"? I simply stated my opinion. Like it or not, "Rivers" won't be a name in the hall of fame, but it might be something Marty will float down soon...
Do you even read the posts before you reply? The "fact" is in regard to the evidence used supporting your opinion. I try to go slow for you. Please try to keep up.
-Sik
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Do you even read the posts before you reply? The "fact" is in regard to the evidence used supporting your opinion. I try to go slow for you. Please try to keep up.
-Sik
I'll go slow for you, Son.
Originally posted by Ripsnort
I disagree. Rivers is not a SB QB. Rivers is just an avg. QB who had an unusual remarkable year and he had the luxury of having an extrememly talented RB to take the pressure off Rivers.
They should have kept Drew. Fools.
That's my opinion. 1 year wonder.
5 words and 1 number. I think you can keep up.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I'll go slow for you, Son.
That's my opinion. 1 year wonder.
5 words and 1 number. I think you can keep up.
So then you don't read the posts? Shrug. You can lead a horse to water and all that.
-Sik
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Facts=evidence.
Don't play dumb. I met you, you're smarter than your gel-spiked hair made you appear. ;) Peace Brother. Join me in a sideline seat as we don't watch our respective teams climb the hill top.
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Old and crafty beats young and overconfident every time -- unless you're the Washington Redskins. Then you just keep losing to prove money can't buy everything.
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Originally posted by Halo
Old and crafty beats young and overconfident every time -- unless you're the Washington Redskins. Then you just keep losing to prove money can't buy everything.
How do you explain last years SB? Young QB gets stopped 1 foot short of the goal line, but its a TD. ;) (Yah, I'm still bitter...)