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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sabre on January 16, 2007, 03:28:57 PM
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I enjoy woodworking, but I've got a powerful paranoia about loosing a finger or three with my table saw. Then I saw this product. I got to have one of these! At $2799.00, it's pricy, but I've seen other table saws that topped $2K that didn't have this one's safety features. Watch the "hotdog" video...it sold me. Now I just have to figure out where to put one of these. My other table saw is on wheels and fits under the workbench.
http://www.sawstop.com/
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um.
where do i go to see it?
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I think he is just teasing us wood working folks.
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AGGGGAHHHHAHHHHHHHHHHHH
:cry
I cut off my fingers!!!!
(boy, i'll bet that if sabre had provided the link i might still have them.)
:D
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Mine was about $250 and I made a featherboard... I'll do the same for you for only $1500.
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Hehe...so excited I forgot the link. Edited post above with link, and provided it again here...
http://www.sawstop.com/
JB88, sorry about that, chief:huh
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does it come with seat belts and a air bag?
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Originally posted by Sabre
JB88, sorry about that, chief:huh
that's okay man...accidents happen. i'll just have to figure out how to fly with one of these now...
(http://www.clicket.com/images/676.jpg)
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that is absolutely amazing! I had a cliche shop teacher that was missing some fingers... i'm betting he wishes he had one of these back in the day.
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Originally posted by DYNAMITE
that is absolutely amazing! I had a cliche shop teacher that was missing some fingers... i'm betting he wishes he had one of these back in the day.
Yep. My grandfather was missting two fingers from his right hand. You guessed it: woodshop accident.
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My other table saw is a 52" Lane lumbermill. :)
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Amazing
I think we are about to bear witness to what is going to become an OSHA standard regulation for table saws in the workplace.
Several years ago my sister while helping her husband cut wainscoting for their bathroom slipped and had her pinky sliced up and her ring, middle and index finger cut off on her left hand.
the docs were able to repair the pinky and reattach the middle and index fingers but she lost her ring finger at the knuckle.
Course there was no mercy from me. First thig I said to her when I went down to see here was "Hiya stumpy"
And whewn one of her neibors stopped by to see is she needed anything from the store I just had to chime in "Yea, she mentioned she wouldnt mind having a package of lady fingers" LOL
Now before any of the oversensitive types get their panties in a bunch
Thats just the way our family is.
Unless someone actually died
Take it in stride and make fun of it.
She took no offence and laughed as well as she knew damn well she would have said the exact same thing to me.
Hell if she was upset at anything it was that I beat her to the punch with that comment.
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"hey retard" - drediock's sister
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Originally posted by JB88
"hey retard" - drediock's sister
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LOL if the roles were reverce.
Those probably would have been her exact words
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My sister had a double mastectomy last year. First thing I said to her was "no one will notice", she laughed.
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Originally posted by Sabre
Watch the "hotdog" video...it sold me. Now I just have to figure out where to put one of these. http://www.sawstop.com/
I just saw the "hotdog" video; I think you could put that thing in a nursery.
What if you WANT to cut hot dogs on your table saw?
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Originally posted by eskimo2
I just saw the "hotdog" video; I think you could put that thing in a nursery.
What if you WANT to cut hot dogs on your table saw?
Better yet. Imagine the person who kills off his/her spouce then figures to cut them up into little peices to dispose of them.
Hmmm might make a rather amusing dark movie
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I don't mean to hijack a hijacked thread, but I saw this thing on TV last night that is almost as cool as a tablesaw that won't eat hotdogs-and it's a hell of a lot cheaper too..
http://s7.sears.com/e2/eVideo.jsp?video=Sears/Videos/compucarve.swf
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Originally posted by eskimo2
I just saw the "hotdog" video; I think you could put that thing in a nursery.
What if you WANT to cut hot dogs on your table saw?
Lorraine Bobbitt canceled her order.
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Originally posted by sluggish
I don't mean to hijack a hijacked thread, but I saw this thing on TV last night that is almost as cool as a tablesaw that won't eat hotdogs-and it's a hell of a lot cheaper too..
http://s7.sears.com/e2/eVideo.jsp?video=Sears/Videos/compucarve.swf
oh hell ya. a wood printer!!!
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This sure looks like a safe saw. I have been cabinet making for a long time. I was a machinist for 20 years also. I learned to never take my eyes off of the tool.
My table saw, cost me $150 or so and the fence wasn't even straight. I have to set it up each cut. I don't rip wood very often but I made several sets of featherboards and several different designs of push sticks. My fingers never get close to the blade and if for some reason I feel distracted I just don't use the table saw, period.
For crosscuts I made some boxes, for want of a better term, that I place the wood in and can either clamp it in place or hold against a stop. Again, my hands never get close to the blade.
All it takes is proper planning and full attention to what you are doing. A lot of "professionals" get sloppy and create their own "accidents". I know, I have worked around some of those so called pros.
Full attention to what you are doing and proper planning will keep you safe on just about any table saw.
Mark
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And this gentlemen, is why capitilism will always succeed.
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Originally posted by JB88
oh hell ya. a wood printer!!!
Yup but gotta admit thats pretty cool
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
This sure looks like a safe saw. I have been cabinet making for a long time. I was a machinist for 20 years also. I learned to never take my eyes off of the tool.
My table saw, cost me $150 or so and the fence wasn't even straight. I have to set it up each cut. I don't rip wood very often but I made several sets of featherboards and several different designs of push sticks. My fingers never get close to the blade and if for some reason I feel distracted I just don't use the table saw, period.
For crosscuts I made some boxes, for want of a better term, that I place the wood in and can either clamp it in place or hold against a stop. Again, my hands never get close to the blade.
All it takes is proper planning and full attention to what you are doing. A lot of "professionals" get sloppy and create their own "accidents". I know, I have worked around some of those so called pros.
Full attention to what you are doing and proper planning will keep you safe on just about any table saw.
Mark
(http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Living-Color-BH-03.jpg)
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Yup but gotta admit thats pretty cool
no doubt dred. you don't get much cooler than that.
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well, i hope they put some kind of warning label on it for people who mignt be buying it to dismember bodies with.
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I'm missing something here JB, I don't know what your comment was about my post. The picture didn't tell me anything.
Mark
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Mark, you don't need me to tell you, but you are smart to use a strict regimen that you don't vary. everybody around equipment that can maim them in a split second's innattention need to do this.
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i once taught a sculpture course at university in arizona. (grad student)
one of the requirements of the course was a proficiency with all of the basic tools in the shop.
i had 17 students.
having to be responsible for teaching them, and then watching over them as they all worked on them independently was slightly nerwracking to say the least. especially where the table saw was concerned.
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Originally posted by JB88
i once taught a sculpture course at university in arizona. (grad student)
one of the requirements of the course was a proficiency with all of the basic tools in the shop.
i had 17 students.
having to be responsible for teaching them, and then watching over them as they all worked on them independently was slightly nerwracking to say the least. especially where the table saw was concerned.
My son who is book brilliant.
But tool challanged I wouldnt so much as let him plug the thing in.
Scary thought though.
His latest aspiration..
Is to become a Dentist :O
LMAO
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Scary thought though.
His latest aspiration..
Is to become a Dentist :O
LMAO
I have to wonder sometimes...
Why would someone as a teenager choose to want to be a dentist?
they like smelling people's nasty breath and like putting things into strangers mouths?
it's not an extremely lucrative profession?
kind of like why on earth would someone willingly choose to be a proctologist?
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(http://www.stomptokyo.com/img-m2/little-shop-b.jpg)
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image no showie
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it's steve martin in little house of horrors pulling a guy's tooth out.
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That's neat. I will be in the market for either a table saw or radial arm saw sometime this year, and this sort of feature is definately something I'd like to have. I can't fly without fingers and I really don't want my wife to chop off any of her body parts either. It's about 3x the cost of a similiar craftsman saw from Sears, but it only takes one incident for it to suddenly become the best investment you ever made.
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Originally posted by JB88
it's steve martin in little house of horrors pulling a guy's tooth out.
I know I "Quoted" you to see the link, then manually ripsnorted-and-pasted... just was letting you know
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Originally posted by eagl
That's neat. I will be in the market for either a table saw or radial arm saw sometime this year, and this sort of feature is definately something I'd like to have. I can't fly without fingers and I really don't want my wife to chop off any of her body parts either. It's about 3x the cost of a similiar craftsman saw from Sears, but it only takes one incident for it to suddenly become the best investment you ever made.
I'm not in total disagreement with what you wrote eagl but it's just like flying, pay absolute attention to what you are doing and plan ahead and you shouldn't have any problems.
The only thing that bothers me about this saw is that it can make you even more complacent due to all the saftey features. What do you do if your forced to use another one without all those features. I'm not saying you should buy the cheapest most dangerous thing out there. A really good table saw is worth it.
Mark
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Mark,
You're absolutely right. I am fully confident in the woodworking training I've received and in my usual "standard" of working within my capabilities, but I also know a lot of other highly skilled people missing body parts due to woodworking mistakes. Complacency kills in my line of work and I try to carry that into everything I do, just to keep in practice :) I know the "right" way to use these tools, and I won't change what I do because of a safety feature.
It's like deliberately over-stressing an aircraft just because I wear a parachute... Not gonna happen, but I'll still wear the 'chute just in case.
I am also very concerned about my wife using woodworking tools. She is very interested in building furniture and I know for a fact that sooner or later one of us is going to make a mistake in the shop, and only proper preparation (buying into safety features) or blind luck will save us.
I've already had my blind luck incident when my hand was pulled into a drill press in high school metal shop, and I only lost a little skin instead of wrapping my hand and wrist around the chuck like the guy in the safety video I'd seen just the week prior. Crap happens and if there is a technology solution that addresses one of the most common and most serious workshop injury potentials, then it's probably irresponsible to pass it up.
I can afford a $3,000 table saw a lot more than I can afford a career-ending injury or the hospital bill that would come after sawing off a few fingers.
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Originally posted by Mustaine
I have to wonder sometimes...
Why would someone as a teenager choose to want to be a dentist?
they like smelling people's nasty breath and like putting things into strangers mouths?
it's not an extremely lucrative profession?
kind of like why on earth would someone willingly choose to be a proctologist?
He seems to think it is (lucrative)
Fortunately in the last 4 months in college he's thought about being a politician, a lawyer, and now a dentist. Im kindasorta hoping he picks somethig else in the next 3-4 years.
;)
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I've worked in manufacturing for 20+ years now. Bad things will happen for sure, but they are certain to happen to people who aren't careful.
Once had a guy slice into the meat between his thumb and forefinger with a metal saw, about 2 inches. He was calm as could be just holding it and saying he had a little accident. The ******* came up dirty on the drug test for 3 different drugs.
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That compucarve thing is COOL! I'm going to have to look into it. As for the Sawstop saw, I understand the comments about it possibly making an operator more complacent. The problem is, if you believe the accident statistics posted on Sawstop's web site, it happens anyways. I think of my self as pretty safe driver, but I'm still glad to have the seat belts and airbags. Plus, the $70 to replace the blade break and $10-$20 to replace the saw blade after an accident is high enough to make me want to avoid it. Not to mention the $7-$8 bucks for the six-pack I'd immediately drink following activiation of the sawstop device...and the laundry costs and new pair of shorts.
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I am a fine furniture maker, and I can tell you It is not if you get hurt, but when. You can be as safe and conscious as you can be, but murphy is always there. Sawstop is an incredible tool, but I dont think it will ever be mandated on all saws. Wood working is dangerous, and every little thing that can make it that much safer and help you go home at the end of the day with all your digits is a small price to pay.
Dog
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It looks pretty cool, but I wonder if aluminum, copper, staticy plastics, foam, or damp wood would trip it? I cut non wood things on my table saw all the time.
If I had one I’d probably just chop something off with my band saw, miter saw, scroll saw, skill saw, sawzall or jig saw…
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Originally posted by dogsnot
I am a fine furniture maker, and I can tell you It is not if you get hurt, but when. You can be as safe and conscious as you can be, but murphy is always there. Sawstop is an incredible tool, but I dont think it will ever be mandated on all saws. Wood working is dangerous, and every little thing that can make it that much safer and help you go home at the end of the day with all your digits is a small price to pay.
Dog
I'd like to see some pictures of your work; please post.
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a nuther thing woodwerkrs needs: wood
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(http://www.skomteh.ru/images/husqvarna_350.jpg)
:D
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Originally posted by eskimo2
It looks pretty cool, but I wonder if aluminum, copper, staticy plastics, foam, or damp wood would trip it? I cut non wood things on my table saw all the time.
If I had one I’d probably just chop something off with my band saw, miter saw, scroll saw, skill saw, sawzall or jig saw…
it has a key lock where you can bypass the "safety technology" for cutting conductive materials.
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Originally posted by vorticon
(http://www.skomteh.ru/images/husqvarna_350.jpg)
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hell ya!!!
i just used one of them babies on a half acre of land.
once it gets over the whole "moonscape" phase it will be back to it's previous stature. the last tenant let it go to seed and tree...it definitely needed a haircut.
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Originally posted by JB88
hell ya!!!
i just used one of them babies on a half acre of land.
once it gets over the whole "moonscape" phase it will be back to it's previous stature. the last tenant let it go to seed and tree...it definitely needed a haircut.
you know of all the wood tools out there (and I have used almost all of them both in 3 years of woodshop in HS and as a cabinetmaker for a few years) the chainsaw spooks me the most.
I'm not "scared" of a tool, but I do realize the dangers inherent in some of them.
I'll tell you what, a door panel shaper is a heck of a lot more dangerous than a table saw. I've had close calls with a table saw being a dumb-ass but I have also ripped 2 full 4 foot tall by 4 foot wide cord of 16 foot boards down to 2" slats in a day. that's a LOT of cutting, and I have done that multiple times.
the shaper though with that huge bit, totally exposed making a 3" deep cut shape on knotty pine, well you get some serious kick backs sometimes. you get your hand caught in that bit, and kiss you arm up to your elbow goodbye.
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Originally posted by vorticon
(http://www.skomteh.ru/images/husqvarna_350.jpg)
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I have a Husqvarna…
Sewing machine. I kid you not.
My wife was shopping for a new sewing machine a few years ago and asked my opinion. When I saw the brochures and saw Husqvarna I said, “They make sewing machines too? I thought they just made Chainsaws.” She said, “They make Chainsaws? I thought they just made sewing machines.” Anyway, I insisted we get the Husqvarna.
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Originally posted by eskimo2
I have a Husqvarna…
Sewing machine. I kid you not.
My wife was shopping for a new sewing machine a few years ago and asked my opinion. When I saw the brochures and saw Husqvarna I said, “They make sewing machines too? I thought they just made Chainsaws.” She said, “They make Chainsaws? I thought they just made sewing machines.” Anyway, I insisted we get the Husqvarna.
I used to ride Husqvarna Motorcycles a lot. Owned two of them. They were great dirt bikes.
Mark
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yah, the husky was always the badaas of teh dirtbike club gerage, but i liked the suzuki 80cc bettar
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Saw this on a tech show about a year ago, was kinda wondering how long it would take to get into production.
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iirc husky also makes some kewl robots too:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :aok :noid