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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: storch on January 17, 2007, 02:05:41 PM
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I think these could be nice add ons at some point http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/ju88g7.html
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Heck Yes. I already dog fight with the Ju88 and its 1 forward BB gun. I've manage to own one plane.
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I once took on a N1K2 with the Ju88s nose gun and won. Killed his engine, his oil, some gas leaks, but the bugger was lucky enough to get a safe landing on the strat I was bombing with the Ju88 in the first place. I'd love to have some cannon on this puppy. I think it might do better than the 110G for bomber busting.
Wasn't it faster than the 110G?
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at altitude yes. I believe with the jumo213 power eggs it was capable of 403mph @ 29,000ft. that made it a deadly opponent of the bomber streams.
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i wish, would be a niceaddition,
ju88 dogfighter + ju87 tank buster
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Endurance: 3.72 hours (including one hour at emergency power with MW 50 boost and remainder at max power)
Service Ceiling: N/A
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Ju 88G-7 never entered production. And adding nightfighters into sim which doesn't have night modelled realistically isn't really viable.
The best bet for a heavy daylight Ju-88 fighter variant would be the Ju 88C-6. It's maximum speed was only 310mph and would have 4 cannons in the nose...3 MG-FFs and 1 MG151/20. It probably could have some use in the Early War arena.
It would be a cool plane but IMO there are still loads of more important variants to be introduced to the plane set.
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The C had 3x MGFF and 3 7mm MG17s, it didn't have MG151/20s, as far as I know.
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The Ju 88C-6. She looks pretty sexy.
(http://www.luftwaffe39-45.historia.nom.br/aero/ju88_10.jpg)
Heres a site with a bunch of Ju-88, but its in a different language and I can't read it. I can make out some words. Click Here (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.luftwaffe39-45.historia.nom.br/aero/ju88_10.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.luftwaffe39-45.historia.nom.br/aero/ju88.htm&h=280&w=225&sz=9&hl=en&start=15&tbnid=c0uUOlftxqR1GM:&tbnh=114&tbnw=92&prev=/images%3Fq%3DJu%2B88C-6%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN)
Heres one in English. Though it is internet source, I don't know how accurate this site is, but I bet some of you know. Click Here (http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/germany/junkers/ju_88/Ju_88_nf.htm)
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Looks like french to me.
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It's Brazilian Portuguese.
On the topic of the C-6 it says that the model was used in long-range patrols, and that compared to the C-4 it had more firepower and more armour.
It was used as a nightfighter, and it was of "extrema importância contra os bombardeiros", which doesn't need translation. "Os Bombardeiros" would be a good name for a squad.
It says that the C-6 used the famous "Lichtenstein" radar, which was of course invented by the famous pop artist Roy Lichtenstein. It says that the C-6 was "bem sucedido", which puts me in mind of Phil Collins.
"Caça noturna" is Portuguese for night hunting, or night pursuit. It is pronounced "cassa" rather than "cacker".
A Portuguese hunter is a "caçador", in Italy he would be a "cacciatore", in France he is a "chasseur", and in Spain he is a "cazador". I have a theory that, in ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, the people of Portugal invaded and colonised the people of Spain and France and Italy, and made them speak Portuguese, but that in the years since then the One True Tongue has become corrupted. Or perhaps it was the other way around, and the people of Italy invaded Portugal via France and Spain.
Or perhaps the people of Spain invaded Portugal, and then turned around and invaded France and Italy. Or perhaps the people of Italy launched an ampibious assault on Portugal, and then invaded Spain and France simultaneously, from different directions. I could go on. But I won't.
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Originally posted by Apeking
It's Brazilian Portuguese.
On the topic of the C-6 it says that the model was used in long-range patrols, and that compared to the C-4 it had more firepower and more armour.
It was used as a nightfighter, and it was of "extrema importância contra os bombardeiros", which doesn't need translation. "Os Bombardeiros" would be a good name for a squad.
It says that the C-6 used the famous "Lichtenstein" radar, which was of course invented by the famous pop artist Roy Lichtenstein. It says that the C-6 was "bem sucedido", which puts me in mind of Phil Collins.
"Caça noturna" is Portuguese for night hunting, or night pursuit. It is pronounced "cassa" rather than "cacker".
A Portuguese hunter is a "caçador", in Italy he would be a "cacciatore", in France he is a "chasseur", and in Spain he is a "cazador". I have a theory that, in ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, the people of Portugal invaded and colonised the people of Spain and France and Italy, and made them speak Portuguese, but that in the years since then the One True Tongue has become corrupted. Or perhaps it was the other way around, and the people of Italy invaded Portugal via France and Spain.
Or perhaps the people of Spain invaded Portugal, and then turned around and invaded France and Italy. Or perhaps the people of Italy launched an ampibious assault on Portugal, and then invaded Spain and France simultaneously, from different directions. I could go on. But I won't.
classic thread hijack with good monty pythonesque history lesson tossed in to boot. next time I'm in england I'll look you up and buy you a pint as well. good job sir.
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Originally posted by Apeking
I have a theory that, in ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, the people of Portugal invaded and colonised the people of Spain and France and Italy, and made them speak Portuguese, but that in the years since then the One True Tongue has become corrupted. Or perhaps it was the other way around, and the people of Italy invaded Portugal via France and Spain.
Or perhaps the people of Spain invaded Portugal, and then turned around and invaded France and Italy. Or perhaps the people of Italy launched an ampibious assault on Portugal, and then invaded Spain and France simultaneously, from different directions. I could go on. But I won't.
Looks like someone has never heard of the Roman Empire, or the term "Romance languages."
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To further hijack it,
The reason French, Italian, Spanish, and a lot of other languages are similar is because they all stem directly from the same language. Namely, Latin.
Over the years as land conquered land, the language adapted as new cultures bumped into each other. It changed radically over the next couple hundred (?) years. In fact, the French language was codified as an attempt to stop the bastardization of Latin.
Now imagine how different Latin is from French, yet the one stems directly from the other. That must have been a tumultuous couple of centuries if the language changed THAT fast.
Thus ends the minor history lesson (for now).
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he knows that. you missed his sharp wit.
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To be honest, I thought apeking's post was funny as hell (and very "Pythonesque"), but like I said, it was a hijack :)
I didn't know that he knew. Now I know that he knows. Further, he knows that I know that he knows, and knows that I didn't know that he knew, but now know that he knew, even though I didn't know.
(and so on, and so forth) :aok
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Originally posted by storch
he knows that. you missed his sharp wit.
Yet, we've assumed that before and been mistaken . . . :noid
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Originally posted by Apeking
It's Brazilian Portuguese.
Where did you learn Brasilian Portuguese Apeking? I learned it growing up down there. I thought it was interesting someone else recognized it on this BBS. I think Storch recognizes it, he said he made some business trips down that way and there used to be some Brasilians that flew Aces High. Have'nt seen any around in a while though.
Mark
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eu? não :D
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Yes please more target drones for my spitfire!
Death to the Luftwaffe!
Bruv
~S~
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Originally posted by storch
eu? não :D
Brincadera.
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não estou brincando filho eu não falo portuguese. :D I was at the bus station in são paulo waiting for my driver to pick me up. the usual stream of pan handlers had eaten up all my loose change. when another came to ask me for help with bus fare, bored to tears and somewhat pissed to be waiting in the january heat for so long I look at the man and say me disculpa senhor mais eu não falo portuguese. now my spoken portuguese is without accent and a mixture of intonations from the different regions but tends to sound somewhat cariocaish. meanwhile this guy is studying me intently, I making steady eye contact with him, my driver shows up seeing whats going on he asks whats up. I tell him in english that I'm playing a joke on this guy. he explains to man that I'm an american here on business and that I don't speak portuguese to which the guy responds mais esta falando!!!! I smile at the guy and pull out the smallest bill I had a 1000 cruziero note and give him that.
ya bruv more fodder for you, until you run into me. :aok
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Originally posted by storch
I smile at the guy and pull out the smallest bill I had a 1000 cruziero note and give him that.
Was that the current cruziero, or was that the cruziero before the cruziero novo before the cruzado before the cruzado novo (and did I miss another cruziero in there somewhere)?
Or has it been long enough that all have come and gone yet again?
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lol it was the cruzeiro after the cruzado before the novo crurzeiro before the real. what a whacky place brasil is.
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Originally posted by storch
lol it was the cruzeiro after the cruzado before the novo crurzeiro before the real. what a whacky place brasil is.
I left Brasil in 1965 and never went back till 2005 so I missed everything from the cruzeiro all the way to the Real. I still catch myself saying cruzeiro instead of Real.
That was an interesting story there Storch. I can only imagine what was going on in that man's mind you gave the mil cruzeiros to. :)
Mark ( Tambem conhecido como Marcos )
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anyone have a photo of dayfighter Ju88s carrying WGr.21 rox?
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mil was around a dollar that month :) brasil was suffering hyperinflation at that time the currency was worthless. filling stations and stores would alter their prices by the hour. it was an insane period in time for them.
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Originally posted by storch
mil was around a dollar that month :) brasil was suffering hyperinflation at that time the currency was worthless. filling stations and stores would alter their prices by the hour. it was an insane period in time for them.
January, 1990, 82% inflation. That is not an annualized rate, folks, prices went up an average of 82% in that single month. That was the worst I personally experienced -- usually hovered in the 30%'s per month.
Oh, and BTW, in case some of you readers didn't know, each change of currency is usually accompanied by dropping 3 zeros off the denomination, i.e. 1 cruzado novo = 1,000 of the previous cruzados.
And here the Fed gets all upset if annualized inflation gets above 2.5%. :rofl
Back (slightly) on topic, a commentator at the time was comparing the hyperinflation Brazil was experiencing to what Germany was experiencing in the last days of the Weimar Republic, right before the Nastzis took over. Couldn't follow his logic quite closely enough to tell if he was advocating something . . .
Ahem . . . We need more JU88 variants right away. :aok
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could really careless about that crap, anyway.
ya wouldnt mind seein a varient of a ju88 but id really like to see the Do17 or 217 before i see another varient of a ju88 maybe even a He111 Zwilling that would be interesting to fly.
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theNewB, we're talking Ju88Cs and Gs. These are heavily armed, cannon-toting planes. They carried no bombs, and were used to hunt bombers.
More like a zerstorer than a bomber.
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yup they carried no bombs they were heavy fighters along the line of the A20 conversion the P70 or the the P61 Black Widow.
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Originally posted by Krusty
The C had 3x MGFF and 3 7mm MG17s, it didn't have MG151/20s, as far as I know.
There were several armament configurations. I listed one that would probably be the most potent in AH. That plane would need all the help it can get.
Originally posted by Krusty
theNewB, we're talking Ju88Cs and Gs. These are heavily armed, cannon-toting planes. They carried no bombs, and were used to hunt bombers.
Many of these fighter variant could carry bombs...in bomb racks and internally. They rarely did, but they were cabable of doing so.