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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: FX1 on January 17, 2007, 02:30:22 PM
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102 Kd in fighter! Looks like shawks record is going to go down this camp. Only problem is that he has 3 ditches and shawk had 0. I dont really count that so lets see if he can keep it up.
Also he only has two months under that cpid so does anyone know his none shade account name..
I made it to 86kd one months in 4 days but i ran into my my 87 kills burning wreckage. Takes some patients on his part to but up that #.
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He bailed game over ):
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Made it to 40 no loss the other night. Thats my best so far. Bailed since tho :\
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I think 70 is a good mark anything over that your doing really well. Last night i had 42 in a row not one vulch in 5 flights then got gf ack and augured.
It takes discipline and some luck. I always thought i would get hit by puffy ack our some gv'er would put a 5incher into me from 10k.
One day i will go for shawks record but for me flying like that is not my cup of tea. I like it low and multi con's fights these days.
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Who cares about SHawk's.... (for lack of a better word) "record"?
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"starts to raise hand up" SMACK krusty slaps me on wrist "slowly puts hand down and sinks into seat"
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Good old bbs.. Starting to think that i need to block this www address. Good lord this forum is going to chit..
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Wtg guy 100 some K/D is awsome!!!! "WACKKKKKK!!!! krusty smack me in face i sit down again
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Given the number of occasions where persons have vulched 2nd accounts, friends, younger brothers, cousins, grandmas, etc., an occurence like this gets a lukewarm response at best.
If it was a legitimate effort wtg...
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Originally posted by kamilyun
Given the number of occasions where persons have vulched 2nd accounts, friends, younger brothers, cousins, grandmas, etc., an occurence like this gets a lukewarm response at best.
ZoMg !!!!!! who would do that ?
:noid :noid :noid :noid
Bronk
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***Sitting in back of the class. Everyons head slowly turns around lookin at me. Slowly stands up walks over to the door...slowly slips out the and runs to canada*******Looks back and see bronk chasing me with a slab of bacon, mean while Hub and Furboll look up from there take over the world plans to get a quick :lol at me runnin then go back to there buisness***
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***Canadian Border Guard see's Husky01 coming and tells him, "Sorry, but we dont have enought beer to spare. Please turn around proceed to Mexico EH."***
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**Slaps UdieNoiw in face with bacon and as i countinue past the border gallaping like they do in monty python and the holy grai with coconuts making the horse sounds, turn and yells IM TO YOUNG TO DRINK***
lol
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***Stands there shocked wondering why RCMP never stopped Husky. Oh wait...their Canadian cops, thats why. ***
WELCOME to Canada Eh.:p
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**Stops in the middle of the stree and yell YAY BACON!!!!**
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"Mmm... Bacon.... *drool*"
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this thread is full of retarded tards from tardsville :furious
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Hey! I'm from Springtard, not Shelbytard!
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id say cheater...... not one death in a fighter?
probably a "warp when someone on my 6" guy...
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Ha! It's all I can do to hold on to a 1.2 kd!!!I'm so proud of that , that I'm flying in attack mode so I can keep looking at it lol . Yeah I know it's sad, but it's legit . My best sortie i landed 7 kills in a pony...blood and oil every where!! :noid
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UMMMMMMMM Why is this important? So people can fly high speed planes dive from 20k and cherry pick and run home. Getting 1 kille per sortie will raise that k/d that high. Its not the big of an accomplishment unless they are TnB on the deck and are in the mix of a furball. :rolleyes:
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That's exactly right. All a kill ratio like that proves is that the player cares soley about his own fun, caring not a bit for anyone else's.
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
That's exactly right. All a kill ratio like that proves is that the player cares soley about his own fun, caring not a bit for anyone else's.
errrm so i have to TnB on the deck to not be put into the group of "not caring a bit for anyone elses fun"..... whatever.
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I once lost a 108 k/d ( all lands, no ditches and from start of camp) to a 234.
No kidding... D'oh!
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shawk said you were very happy after that death
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Dis but a flesh wound!!!! Now back to the BACON!!!!!
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Originally posted by FX1
shawk said you were very happy after that death
Relieved actually. Was kinda stressful... I had made it a personal rule that I would continue to go after bombers and such plus there were people out gunnin for me. It was fun but I was glad when it was over. We all had a laugh at how it ended.
Not taking away from Shawk but we don't fly in fighter mode the same way. I up and head off to the biggest enemy darbar I can find, he does something different.
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He always tells a good story about that night you got hit with that 234. Also you were in a pony correct..
In 5 years a couldn't get 200+ kills in a pony, 200 assist maybe...
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Yes, all the kills were in a pony. It does make for a funny story. Some people stiff give me watermelon about it. I smile or laugh every time it comes up.
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well to save you all the trouble, and i was curious....
all kills come from a tempest. nearly all kills are of bombers. would explain for high hit%....though medicore k/s, and k/t. guess is prolly not a hoax, for once, then again you never know:) just going by stats, never fought him, don't know him, etc...seems legit score.
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I once got a kill...
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Originally posted by Raptor
I once got a kill...
Only one ?
:D
Bronk
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
That's exactly right. All a kill ratio like that proves is that the player cares soley about his own fun, caring not a bit for anyone else's.
Wrong, I've posted MANY times about SHawk's Tour. He wasn't selfish. Do a search. Arm yourself with FACTS before spewing drivel to "speak up with the incorrect masses."
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so someone can fly timid, and run from fights to save his precious fake online life?
whatever turns your crank i guess. :huh
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Im certain he had a good reason to bail
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With regard to Shawk, I certainly wouldn't call him timid, I'd call him a good shot. He does fight smart and doesn't appear to dive into the middle of a situation where he doesn't have the ability to disengage. Some would call this timid, I don't and he certainly does have skills.
Look at any "successful" pilot's percentages and you can usually spot a factor that's outstanding. In his case it appears to be his shooting where his hit percentage is consistently in the mid to high teens. That's outstanding. He also likes the cannon (typically with a C-Hog attached). Combine gunnery skills with effective guns and a smart fighting style and you earn a good score.
Note that I said "earn". Just because he doesn't fight the way you'd necessarily fight you still have to respect his skills. There is a lot to be said for fangs-out furball flying but that doesn't make it "better" or more legit than other forms.
Mace
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
That's exactly right. All a kill ratio like that proves is that the player cares soley about his own fun, caring not a bit for anyone else's.
What a rediculous statement.
Each person is responible for his/her enjoyment only. Tell you what, you start paying my $15.00 per month and I'll worry about your fun a little.
No-one plays the game for someone else's enjoyment. I've never had someone tell me: " Hi Steve, I logged on so you could have fun."
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Originally posted by Mace2004
Just because he doesn't fight the way you'd necessarily fight you still have to respect his skills. There is a lot to be said for fangs-out furball flying but that doesn't make it "better" or more legit than other forms.
Irrespective of SHawk or any others, one flying style requires one level of skill, while other style requires another. Fly above 5 bandits and pick them one after one need some skill without doubt, but run into middle of band and kill them all in cruel close fight against all five at once needs a lot more.
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
That's exactly right. All a kill ratio like that proves is that the player cares soley about his own fun, caring not a bit for anyone else's.
well judging by your statement, I care ALOT about other people's fun and very little about my own....yet I really don't care. I fly I die repeat...it's all for the benefit of the masses.
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Kills per hour very weak.
No respect from me.
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Originally posted by Bruv119
Kills per hour very weak.
No respect from me.
Isnīt that a big exaggeration?
Certainly 5.472 KPH is not not top-notch, but still better than 85% of all AH players.
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Originally posted by Lusche
Isnīt that a big exaggeration?
Certainly 5.472 KPH is not not top-notch, but still better than 85% of all AH players.
are you kidding? I would kill 5.472 people an hour to get that ratio!!
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Man! All I can say to that is it must of been booooorriiiinngg...
I'll resist replying to some of the other replies......except this one.
SHawk is WAY timid. He has skills yes, but he is TIMID! He has patience yes, but he is TIMID!....:rofl
Steve, good to see ya back around man! Just gettin back in the swing of AH myself.
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He's only got 4 KpD if you add up all the "attack" stats. Most score-potatos only fly as "fighter" for a while, get bored or (*gasp*) die a couple of times, then fly "attack" until the next tour, so as not to damage their "rank" with the numerous deaths they encounter.
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Originally posted by Bronk
Only one ?
YEAH! IT WAS TEH AWESOME! I R T3H 1337!
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Originally posted by Raptor
YEAH! IT WAS TEH AWESOME! I R T3H 1337!
:lol
Raptor
Bronk
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Originally posted by 0verlag
id say cheater...... not one death in a fighter?
probably a "warp when someone on my 6" guy...
Actually not at all. He was with me low on the deck 5 against 3.He didnt run and stayed right in it.
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Originally posted by Raptor
I once got a kill...
Same here but this damn game is so buggy that when I was shooting at the guy in front of me with the green icon, my plane started to lose parts and I died! Wish HiTech would fix these bugs ASAP!
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Krusty
He's only got 4 KpD if you add up all the "attack" stats. Most score-potatos only fly as "fighter" for a while, get bored or (*gasp*) die a couple of times, then fly "attack" until the next tour, so as not to damage their "rank" with the numerous deaths they encounter.
Completely agree 100% on that. See those that have less than 100 kills and yet be in the top 10 for fighter ranks...dont see how this is possible. :huh
I only fly perk planes and my 38 scored as fighter to see how well I fly my 38 for that tour. All other planes will go in attack.
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ahhh, so thats how it is done Krusty...dang I have been messing that up bad.
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Um....er......Who really cares?
When someone matches my death to kills ratio, then I'll start worrying:D
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Zhang ......his ID was Co........
Before discuss about his K/D.......
you better ask yourself, how you play AH2? for fun? for exciting?
Zhang once told me......he play Ah2 as a ""Real Flight Combat""
He always think about survive.....before any kill.....how about you.....
BTW:
I don't like the way he play AH2.......
I like furball........and I enjoy enemy in close 6....!!!!!
How about you ????!!!!!
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Originally posted by monoboss
Zhang once told me......he play Ah2 as a ""Real Flight Combat""
He always think about survive.....before any kill.....
In Real Combat survival is not main goal. You have orders you must to carry out, targets you must destroy, friends you must help and so. Fighter who thinks about his own survival in combat in first place is not a fighter but coward.
But AH is not real combat, its a game.
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I think every real fighter pilot in the world would disagree with you oleg. Seriously.
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Originally posted by Krusty
I think every real fighter pilot in the world would disagree with you oleg. Seriously.
You realy think hurr's pilots thinks about their lives in first place when they intercepts Ju88 formations? Or TBF pilots flying through AAA hellfire into torpedo range? How about infantry charging another height under machine-guns fire?
War is not a game. Individual's live has low value there.
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Of course AH2 is not a Real WAR......just a Game....
But just try to tell yourself.....If this is real......
Anyway, just a game, and you have your way to play it.....
But......even in real war......doesn't mean Survive isn't important...
However, if you are a real Jap fighter pilot near the end of WW2...
then it will be another story.....:O
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Zhang = Monoboss = Metavoss?
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Originally posted by Krusty
I think every real fighter pilot in the world would disagree with you oleg. Seriously.
Thomas McGuire attempting to clear his wingman's 6.
Randy Cuningham turned back to help his wingman who was incircled, he didn't think he would even get out alive if he turned back but he did anyway.
It comes down to personality of the fighter pilot. If you can live with letting your wingman die, then you will think about your life above others.
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ya, i would submit that ww2 aviators, as well as pilots today, knowingly placed themselves in harms way for the purpose of a greater good. whether it was saving their wingman or performing dangerous straffing runs. i don't think any country can win a war by running away at the sight of the enemy:) i would wager most pilots get scared after they land their bird and have time to think about the events that transpired.
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Who cares about SHawk's.... (for lack of a better word) "record"?
Skawk's a good guy IMO . He has put his online life on the line for me more than once . Fun to be around and fly with every time I have had the privilege to do so .
Enough said .
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Originally posted by Raptor
Thomas McGuire attempting to clear his wingman's 6.
Randy Cuningham turned back to help his wingman who was incircled, he didn't think he would even get out alive if he turned back but he did anyway.
It comes down to personality of the fighter pilot. If you can live with letting your wingman die, then you will think about your life above others.
Exactly, life was more important. Their lives, their wingmens' lives. The mission was secondary.
Oh don't get me wrong it was important, but if flight of P47s was completely loaded down and bounced, they'd drop their ord, and get the hell out of there (usually back to base). Even today it's common for naval jets to pickle all their ord the split second they're off the carrier deck if they think something's wrong.
Pilots in ww2 regularly disengaged and fled if the enemy was in a superior position. Yes I know there are instances where a few attacked many, but there are more cases where entire flights disengaged rather than lose the fight.
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And so goes the adage "LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY'
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Originally posted by Krusty
Exactly, life was more important. Their lives, their wingmens' lives. The mission was secondary.
The mission is always #1, everything else is secondary.
ack-ack
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Oh, really? I've read that entire squads on fighter sweeps over the channel bugged out when attacked by 109s in higher positions. Similarly, LW planes would disengage if taken by surprise.
The mission WAS important. I don't argue that. However, given the choice of returning to base with 100% of your pilots' lives intact and losing many of them, I think most would try to "live to fight another day".
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Both you guys are right. All missions were not equal. A fighter sweep set up just to attrite enemy fighters is different than an escort mission where you're protecting bombers. You're willingness to accept risk is based on the operational necessity of the mission.
This is one of the most difficult things for commanders, mission commanders, strike leads, flight leads, and individual pilots to decide....when is the potential loss worth the potential gains? It's impossible to encapsulate this seemingly simple question into a single response that applies to an entire world war.
Mace
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Originally posted by Oleg
In Real Combat survival is not main goal. You have orders
But you got to survived first to make your goal. In this case you can call Zhang's carring his hunting job effectively all because he has the order to keep survived and kill. :D
Fighter who thinks about his own survival in combat in first place is not a fighter but coward.
That's not true. If one say he's not scare when he's being shooting by someone in a real world in the sky. He's not brave but only no brain for sure. :rofl
There's no coward but only survivers and hero left to tell the war story. :aok
But AH is not real combat, its a game.
That's one of the opinion to treated this game like a game . But maybe there's different kinds of fun that try to score down how far you can keep yourself alive, keep hunting, and still have some nice kill.:lol
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Originally posted by kamilyun
Zhang = Monoboss = Metavoss?
No, Zhang=Co.
He's a real quiet gentleman and enjoy his quiet fly in Aces High, also his peaceful hunting.:D
He's once my squadmate long time ago. :cool:
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Tour 84 Fighter Scores for ZHANG
________________________Score ______rank
Kills per Death + 1 ________112.75______ 1
Kills per Sortie ____________2.15 _______153
Kills per Hour of Flight ______5.51_______1009
Kills Hit Percentage _______18.81_______ 22
Kill Points _______________157978.05___ 4
Great K/D here~
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Nazi fighter pilots had a drastically different attitude about bomber escort than those of other countries American fighter pilots. I remember the account of a German bomber crewman who complained that their escorts would often coldly watch from a high altitude as the bombers were attacked, only swooping down if the situation was advantageous. They only cared about themselves. On the other hand, American and British fighter pilots usually accepted terrible risks to protect their bombers.
I see the same pattern today. Nearly all of the players I've met who hail from Axis countries fly with a "stay alive" mentality, always careful about their virtual life. They don't care that their method of playing is only fun for them and not for everyone else, just like the real Nazi fighter pilots.
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
I see the same pattern today. Nearly all of the players I've met who hail from Axis countries fly with a "stay alive" mentality, always careful about their virtual life. They don't care that their method of playing is only fun for them and not for everyone else, just like the real Nazi fighter pilots.
To compare any AH gamers to actual WWII pilots is a little wacky, let alone trying to ascribe undocumented "historical" characteristics to a particular player base.
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They don't care that their method of playing is only fun for them and not for everyone else, just like the real Nazi fighter pilots.
What a retarded statement.
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
I see the same pattern today. Nearly all of the players I've met who hail from Axis countries fly with a "stay alive" mentality, always careful about their virtual life. They don't care that their method of playing is only fun for them and not for everyone else, just like the real Nazi fighter pilots.
Benny puts his foot in his mouth so often he has shoe racks in there.... jeez !
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
I see the same pattern today. Nearly all of the players I've met who hail from Axis countries fly with a "stay alive" mentality, always careful about their virtual life. They don't care that their method of playing is only fun for them and not for everyone else, just like the real Nazi fighter pilots.
Anybody care to tell Benny that WWII has ended more than 60 years ago? :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by FX1
102 Kd in fighter! Looks like shawks record is going to go down this camp. Only problem is that he has 3 ditches and shawk had 0. I dont really count that so lets see if he can keep it up.
What is shawk's record?
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
Nazi fighter pilots had a drastically different attitude about bomber escort than those of other countries American fighter pilots. I remember the account of a German bomber crewman who complained that their escorts would often coldly watch from a high altitude as the bombers were attacked, only swooping down if the situation was advantageous. They only cared about themselves. On the other hand, American and British fighter pilots usually accepted terrible risks to protect their bombers.
I see the same pattern today. Nearly all of the players I've met who hail from Axis countries fly with a "stay alive" mentality, always careful about their virtual life. They don't care that their method of playing is only fun for them and not for everyone else, just like the real Nazi fighter pilots.
:huh :huh :huh :confused: WTH?
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hmmm 182 i think ask him..
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Originally posted by killnu
What a retarded statement.
Agreed.
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so whats his record? how would i find it... looking at scores?
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Originally posted by USCH
so whats his record? how would i find it... looking at scores?
Feb 2006
182 Kills all landed....Pure Luck
Shoulda died at least 10 times.
At least 5 runs I glided home.
Didn't leave anyone hang out to dry. Never Do, Never Will.
Only time I've been forced to is gliding or completely bingo bullets.
Call me a liar, but I know the truth.
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Who is Zhang, never heard of him nor seen kills landed? Just curious.