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Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on January 21, 2007, 10:03:31 PM: OK, here we go....

After taking some time to think the options through and getting some insight and advice from Simaril (Thx Dave) and getting through the holidays, I am ready to proceede.

Here are some basic guidelines that I will be following in regards to training that I will be offering.

When offering training in the past I have tried to take on to much at one time and quickly burned out. This leads to an "On again, off again" thing that just doesnt work. For this reason I am going to keep the structure and timing of the training (for the most part) on a simple, basic routine. I am hopefull that this will allow my services to continue indefinitely.

Training will be offered on Saturday nights in the DA from 9-11 pm est time. I am willing to work with 2 trainees on any given week. i.e. one from 9-10pm another from 10-11pm. At this point I would like to only schedule 2 weeks at a time, just to keep it simple.

Anyone who wants to is invited to sign up and work with me. Regardless of past history. I only ask that a few things are reconized and observed.....

#1 Show up on time

#2 Check the ego at the door, I will do the same

#3 I will ask you what you want to fly, however if I dont like that plane choice I reserve the right to "Veto" it. In other words I can choose the plane if I want.

#4 I am not and do not claim to be the "Guru" of ACM. There are plenty of better pilots out there. This can be a problem when trying to help pilots who are already "Uber" All I can say here is that I will help the best I can.

#5 To elaborate on point #4...... I will not be able to help "Everyone" Its usually the "Middle of the pack" players who can gain the most. I can however offer a good eye for what people are doing and clear cut instructions on how to devolope/change those things. I am not a miracle worker. Please dont expect to much.

#6 I dont do well with brand new players. You need to have a basic grasp of the games commands and flight. Just a rule of thumb..... you need to have been in the air for at least a couple months.

#7 We will be following standard dueling practices..... co alt merge, same planes, no HO's..... high angle deflection shots after the merge are fine. Just no flat out head ons.

I guess thats about it for now. I was going to offer Simaril the first session this upcomming Saturday for helping me out. If you are free that is? So that leaves at least 3 spots open for the next few weeks. If you are interested just post here.......

Thx everyone.... Dave
Title: Training
Post by: DDart on January 21, 2007, 11:31:52 PM: Like to give it a shot. Either time block is fine if some one else needs one in particular.
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Fianna on January 22, 2007, 12:20:00 AM: Sent you a PM, Nomak.
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: 1cemanVS on January 22, 2007, 10:59:59 AM: very interested, not this saturday, but the one after is fine, any timeslot :)
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Optiker on January 22, 2007, 02:35:49 PM: Nomak,
been playing almost 4 months. I've read a lot more than I've been able to absorb, but would like some analysis and constructive criticism of my flying. I can make myself available at your leisure.
Regards,
Optiker
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: SIK1 on January 22, 2007, 05:08:59 PM: I am interested as well Nomak, you tell me when and I will be there. My plane of choice is the F4U-1, but I will fly anything that you tell me.

SIK1
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on January 23, 2007, 07:30:32 PM: DDart, You were first reply so we will say 9pm est time on Sat.

Optiker, 10pm Sat

1cemanVS 9pm on Sat Feb 3

SIK1 10pm Sat Feb 3

If this doesnt work for anyone pls let me know.

Thx ... Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: 1cemanVS on January 23, 2007, 07:57:13 PM: yeh that sounds good, side note tho, in-game handle is dayz :) see you then, thanks
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: DDart on January 23, 2007, 11:52:21 PM: Looking forward to it.
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: SIK1 on January 24, 2007, 09:10:51 AM: Rgr Nomak 10pm (EST) Feb. 3 in the DA. I'll be there.

SIK1
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Simaril on January 24, 2007, 10:35:10 AM: And thanks Dave...will see you Sat 9pm.

Looking forward to it!

Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: TheBug on January 24, 2007, 11:53:11 AM: Any chance of getting films of the sessions posted somewhere?
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Optiker on January 24, 2007, 01:31:11 PM: DDart, You were first reply so we will say 9pm est time on Sat.

Optiker, 10pm Sat

1cemanVS 9pm on Sat Feb 3

SIK1 10pm Sat Feb 3

If this doesnt work for anyone pls let me know.

Thx ... Dave

Dave,
see you Sat, 1/27/07 at 10:PM in DA.
Thanks,

Optiker
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Simaril on January 24, 2007, 01:39:03 PM: Nomak -- jsut to clarify --

Are you planning on DDart 9pm on 1/27, or are you expecting me? Not clear from your posts.

~~Dave~~
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on January 25, 2007, 05:11:01 AM: Quote
Originally posted by TheBug
Any chance of getting films of the sessions posted somewhere?

What people do with thier films is thier own buisness. That being said..... I would say no. This is for people who take the time to schedule and show up. Not for the community at large.

Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on January 25, 2007, 05:12:58 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Simaril
Nomak -- jsut to clarify --

Are you planning on DDart 9pm on 1/27, or are you expecting me? Not clear from your posts.

~~Dave~~

Yeah I did kinda screw that up didnt I lol. Sooooo .... We need to move either you or DDart to 8pm.

Anyone mind moving up an hour?

Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: TheBug on January 25, 2007, 06:26:14 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Nomak
What people do with thier films is thier own buisness. That being said..... I would say no. This is for people who take the time to schedule and show up. Not for the community at large.

Dave

With that being said is it possible to preschedule ahead for any possible future sessions? If that is the case I would like to add my name to the list.

Thanks
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Simaril on January 25, 2007, 06:29:53 AM: I can do 8 -- no problem. See you then
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Gianlupo on January 25, 2007, 10:41:01 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Nomak

What people do with thier films is thier own buisness. That being said..... I would say no. This is for people who take the time to schedule and show up. Not for the community at large.

What about people who can't schedule and show up? What about people who lives 7 hours ahead of you? Some months ago, you posted some movies of duel between yourself and some other good sticks, I watched those movies again and again and they were a great training for me.

I do remember that you were forced to remove them from the forum due to some rude comments about them (IIRC), but I ask you: do you really want to deprive us all of such a resource only for some stupids' chatting? If there's some duel or training session worth seeing, I'd like to see it... that would make up for the time zones I can't cross... :(

P.S. the tone may seem a bit upset or polemic. I am not. I just think it's a pity to waste this opportunity to learn more.
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Schatzi on January 25, 2007, 11:05:27 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Gianlupo
What about people who can't schedule and show up? What about people who lives 7 hours ahead of you? Some months ago, you posted some movies of duel between yourself and some other good sticks, I watched those movies again and again and they were a great training for me.

I do remember that you were forced to remove them from the forum due to some rude comments about them (IIRC), but I ask you: do you really want to deprive us all of such a resource only for some stupids' chatting? If there's some duel or training session worth seeing, I'd like to see it... that would make up for the time zones I can't cross... :(

P.S. the tone may seem a bit upset or polemic. I am not. I just think it's a pity to waste this opportunity to learn more.

Gianlupo,

theres a huge difference between duelling films and training films. The kind of training Nomak offers is "personal", tailored to the individual. His reasons for not posting the films go way beyond comments on the BBS.

Besides, there are ways around the time zone issue.

~~Schatzi~~
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: SIK1 on January 25, 2007, 11:16:34 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Schatzi

Besides, there are ways around the time zone issue.

~~Schatzi [/B]~~

Yeah like Schatzi teaching carrier landings at 3am her time.. :aok

SIK1
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Gianlupo on January 25, 2007, 11:25:59 AM: :lol

Well, I'd like to sleep sometimes! :D

And, I know what you mean Schatzi, but read better: I said "If there's some duel or training session worth seeing". That means clips that can be of some use to everyone and not only to the trainee... I bet there's plenty of such situations. And you can learn from everything, both duel or training films.
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: 1cemanVS on January 25, 2007, 03:21:19 PM: just to clarify, what timezones are the times you posted in? being in the UK just need to do a little maths :P
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Schatzi on January 25, 2007, 05:46:02 PM: Quote
Originally posted by 1cemanVS
just to clarify, what timezones are the times you posted in? being in the UK just need to do a little maths :P

Hes CST... thats 6 hours behind you in GB. 9 pm is 3am your time :).
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Mace2004 on January 25, 2007, 06:01:36 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Schatzi
Hes CST... thats 6 hours behind you in GB. 9 pm is 3am your time :).

Damn metric system.
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on January 25, 2007, 07:41:06 PM: Quote
Originally posted by TheBug
With that being said is it possible to preschedule ahead for any possible future sessions? If that is the case I would like to add my name to the list.

Thanks

Yes. As each week passes I will schedule the next available week.

Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on January 25, 2007, 07:44:10 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Schatzi
Hes CST... thats 6 hours behind you in GB. 9 pm is 3am your time :).

EST time actually :huh

Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Schatzi on January 25, 2007, 07:53:34 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Nomak
EST time actually :huh

Dave

My bad Dave. I apologize.

Its one hour earlier then actually. Its 2 am GMT then Iceman.
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Simaril on January 25, 2007, 10:47:44 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Gianlupo
.....

And, I know what you mean Schatzi, but read better: I said "If there's some duel or training session worth seeing". .....

Boy, Schatzi...those lawyers sure can be argumentative if they want to!

:lol :lol

(Just kidding Gian...)
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Gianlupo on January 26, 2007, 03:43:31 AM: :lol No problem, Simaril, you're right, and she knows I'm particularly picky and b***breaker :D

Quote
Originally posted by Mace

Damn metric system.

Meter: <-------- owns Foot

:D
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Mace2004 on January 26, 2007, 07:31:05 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Gianlupo
:lol No problem, Simaril, you're right, and she knows I'm particularly picky and b***breaker :D

Meter: <-------- owns Foot

:D

butter kicks Meter's butt.

:lol
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Simaril on January 26, 2007, 08:54:08 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Mace2004
butter kicks Meter's butt.

:lol

Should read "Foot kicks Meter's butt to the fifty yard line"
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Schatzi on January 26, 2007, 09:02:18 AM: Gian, you got your old touch back... regarding hijacks. Im impressed :D
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: 1cemanVS on January 26, 2007, 10:11:22 AM: 2am is ideal...im used to late nights pplaying games mostly inhabited by you guys across the pond, plus that gives me a few extra hours to get her asleep, then to plan my ninja mission to the pc :noid

see you then nomak :aok
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Gianlupo on January 26, 2007, 11:39:23 AM: Thanks Schatzi, I have to give a sense at what's written in my sign, from time to time! :D
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on January 27, 2007, 09:46:16 PM: The first round is over and I think everything went well. I had a good time and I hope you fellas did to. Most importantly I hope everyone picked up at least something from the sessions.

There are 9 and 10pm spots now open for Sat Feb 10th.

Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Optiker on January 28, 2007, 02:34:30 AM: The first round is over and I think everything went well. I had a good time and I hope you fellas did to. Most importantly I hope everyone picked up at least something from the sessions.

Nomak,
had a very instructive evening, thanks. I think this game is so complex that it would be difficult if not impossible (at least for me) to pick it all up on my own. When someone explains what to do and then takes the trouble to explain why, the realization factor increases exponentially. Thanks again for the opportunity, and sign me up for the next go-around.

Regards,
Optiker
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: slowstick on January 28, 2007, 08:53:47 AM: I would like to get on your schedule as well. REither time will work for me. I'm slotogo in the arena
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: TheBug on January 28, 2007, 09:01:56 AM: Would like to get in for either slot myself if any are still open.

Thanks
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: bifhitlr on January 28, 2007, 09:57:56 AM: If you have any openings, please let me know- those times are OK
Thanks, ~~bif~~
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: DDart on January 28, 2007, 11:17:48 AM: Good stuff. Nomak ID'd and tweaked problems with my initial merge, made quite a difference. Has a great instructional style and easy to work with.

!
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: DAVENRINO on January 29, 2007, 12:06:23 AM: Nomak,
I would love to take you up on your generous offer anytime that is convenient for you. Times are not a problem for me since it is 5 hours earlier here than CST, but I will only be home the weekends of the 10th and 24th in Feb. My schedule changes every month. Please let me know if you can fit me into your schedule.
Thanks,
Dave aka DJ229
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: MajWoody on January 29, 2007, 06:21:21 PM: Not to hijack this thread but to DAVENRINO,
I just got back from Kona & it was awsome. Think I might make it an anual event. You are a lucky guy to live there.:D
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on January 29, 2007, 08:55:36 PM: Quote
Originally posted by slowstick
I would like to get on your schedule as well. REither time will work for me. I'm slotogo in the arena

9pm est saturady the 10th

See yas there!

Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on January 29, 2007, 08:56:22 PM: Quote
Originally posted by TheBug
Would like to get in for either slot myself if any are still open.

Thanks

See yas at 10pm on the 10th.

Thx!

Dave
Title: training
Post by: bgkitzmiller on January 30, 2007, 01:33:10 PM: please let me know when you have an opening. My email is bgkitzmiller@msn.com
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: TheBug on January 30, 2007, 07:23:07 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Nomak
See yas at 10pm on the 10th.

Thx!

Dave

Excellent! I will see you there.

Thank you
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: slowstick on January 30, 2007, 08:38:36 PM: great see you at 9:00 eastern on the 10th and thanks
Title: training
Post by: bgkitzmiller on January 30, 2007, 09:12:14 PM: nomak just let me know when u can fit me in, no hurry. i work sunday am until wed am.
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on February 03, 2007, 08:50:59 PM: Calling off training for tonight (Feb3) Voice is out, at least in the DA it is. I spent about 45 mins with Dayz typing...... that just not effective.

Sorry....

Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: 1cemanVS on February 04, 2007, 01:20:05 PM: on that point nomak, we rescheduled for tuesday..2am GMT? ive got a race in the aces high extreme air racin g league at 3am, in the championship points race so cant miss a meeting, that only gives us a definate hour, and i dont want us to be rushed, so we will either have to make the meeting earlier, or another day

sorry for messing you around, but when u asked if i was free i scanned my real life schedule :P
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: slowstick on February 04, 2007, 02:00:42 PM: will that push the training schedule up one week, then
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on February 05, 2007, 09:35:00 PM: Ice and Sik....

Could I just move both of you guys to Sat Feb 17? That would work best for me and also then I dont have to move anyone else around.

Lemmie know

Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: slowstick on February 06, 2007, 07:39:43 AM: no problem for me. See you feb 17, 9:00 PM eastern
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: SIK1 on February 06, 2007, 09:17:10 AM: Nomak,

Saturday Feb.17, works for me. I'm assuming you want me there at 10:00pm est. Let me know if you want me there at a differant time.

SIK1
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on February 06, 2007, 10:07:45 AM: Quote
Originally posted by slowstick
no problem for me. See you feb 17, 9:00 PM eastern

slow.....

Your date is not changing. I had to move Ice and Sik because of voice problems. You are still scheduled for the 10th.

Thx Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: slowstick on February 06, 2007, 08:42:58 PM: ok, good deal, see you saturday then
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: slowstick on February 10, 2007, 05:39:37 PM: hi Dave,

I have been called in to work tonight so I will not be able to make it to the da tonight. We were to meet there at 9:00 eastern. Sorry for the short notice but unavoidable.

Bill
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: TheBug on February 10, 2007, 07:14:59 PM: I can move forward to 9pm if it makes things more convenient, just let me know.
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on February 10, 2007, 07:26:41 PM: See you at 9 ;)

Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on February 11, 2007, 05:24:21 PM: Week 3 is done. I really enjoyed your company Bug. You are a great stick and you will Im sure get better.

Slow, sorry you couldnt make it.

Next Saturday the 17th is Ice (Dayz) and Sik. Saturday the 24th is open.....

Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: TheBug on February 11, 2007, 07:56:01 PM: Thanks Nomak! Appreciate your help and comments
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: DAVENRINO on February 11, 2007, 08:00:41 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Nomak
Week 3 is done. I really enjoyed your company Bug. You are a great stick and you will Im sure get better.

Slow, sorry you couldnt make it.

Next Saturday the 17th is Ice (Dayz) and Sik. Saturday the 24th is open.....

Dave

Nomak,
I would love to take either open slot on the 24th.
Thanks,
Dave aka DJ229
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: 1cemanVS on February 11, 2007, 08:02:17 PM: yeh sorry nomak, im good for next saturday, sorry took so long to reply, took me a while to swing it by the girlfriend, that weekend being valentines (and 4 yr aniversary) weekend, but the same as last time she should be asleep by 2am, so i can sneaky sneaky to the pc ;P
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on February 12, 2007, 08:10:52 PM: Quote
Originally posted by DAVENRINO
Nomak,
I would love to take either open slot on the 24th.
Thanks,
Dave aka DJ229

Youre in Bro ;)

9pm est time Sat the 24.

Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: DAVENRINO on February 13, 2007, 01:53:57 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Nomak
Youre in Bro ;)

9pm est time Sat the 24.

Dave

Thanks Dave. I will see you then.
Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Messiah on February 17, 2007, 12:58:17 AM: This guy knows his stuff! I learned some stuff from him along time ago :cool:
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: SIK1 on February 20, 2007, 09:14:06 AM: Thanks for your time spent Dave. I learned something and I enjoyed it.

SIK1
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on February 23, 2007, 02:00:26 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SIK1
Thanks for your time spent Dave. I learned something and I enjoyed it.

SIK1

Glad you had fun. I did also. ;)

Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Nomak on February 24, 2007, 07:25:10 PM: Quote
Originally posted by DAVENRINO
Thanks Dave. I will see you then.
Dave

I appoligize for the short notice, however I will not be able to make it tonight. My comp is having problems and is at this point inop. As soon as I get it back up and running I will reschedule with you.

Again, my appoligies.

Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: DAVENRINO on February 24, 2007, 08:11:13 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Nomak
I appoligize for the short notice, however I will not be able to make it tonight. My comp is having problems and is at this point inop. As soon as I get it back up and running I will reschedule with you.

Again, my appoligies.

Dave

NP Dave. Let me know when you get it going again.
Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: 1cemanVS on February 25, 2007, 02:53:32 PM: thanks for the training session last saturday nomak, was a great help, and i feel it has improved my flying, if there are no more takers ill happily reschedule for some more in your next slot :aok
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: Simaril on March 16, 2007, 10:43:02 AM: Nomak --

Is your box up and running yet? Hope things are going well at your end of the internet...

Dave
Title: Unoffical training thread II
Post by: DAVENRINO on March 16, 2007, 01:12:38 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Nomak
I appoligize for the short notice, however I will not be able to make it tonight. My comp is having problems and is at this point inop. As soon as I get it back up and running I will reschedule with you.

Again, my appoligies.

Dave

Please let me know when you are ready to reschedule if your machine is back up.
Thanks,
Dave