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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: EagleEyes on January 23, 2007, 02:03:50 AM
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Ok, these planes look similar. Been searching the net, but cant find anything. Is it just me, or does the Ki-61 and the heinkel 113 look alike?
(http://plastikova.valka.cz/novinky/images06/mpm_0506_1.jpg)
Heinkel 113
(http://www.theknights.it/aviation/WW2/MG_Ki61_48/ki61_2.jpg)
Ki-61
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Japanese ever purchase Bf109E,Fw190A5,He112 and He100D/113.
In some resources, Ki61 was really be described in relationship with He100.
Another interesting thing is to install radiator engine in Ki61-II's fuselage.
The install way is from Fw190A5. Then,that is Ki100.:D
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Yup, the Ki-61 was reported as a Bf109 by a few allied pilots in 1943 before intel quashed it.
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also, the me163's blueprints was delivered to the jap in a U-boat from germany but it 1 of the boat was sank,but the jap got it anyway. they called it the shuishi or sumthing like that
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IIRC the Ki-61 was also reported as Macchi M.C.202 by allies.
gripen
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He113:noid :noid :noid :noid :rofl
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The Ki-61 was designed by a Japanese engineer who was a proponent of liquid cooled engines. It used a license built DB601, but the rest was all Japanese.
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Karnak is right.
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the germans lend the japs some disigns through WWII...
...Wat they really need is better tanks...
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"Is it just me, or do the Ki-61 and the heinkel 113 look alike?"
No, it's not just you. They look alike. The easy way to tell them apart is that the Ki-61 in that photograph is only a few inches long, whereas the He-100 in the drawing was about 27 feet from nose to tail. The Japanese theorised that their new miniature aeroplanes would be hard to see, but they had to scrap the idea because it was, in all other respects, a silly idea.
The standard online reference for the Ki-61 from which most everything else is copied is this webpage here:
http://www.vectorsite.net/avhien.html
The standard online reference for the Heinkel He 100 used to be here, although it has gone down in the last month or so:
http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_other/he100.html
It is still available in Google's cache. Wikipedia's article has lengthy verbatim quotes from this page. Read them both.
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Originally posted by Apeking
"Is it just me, or do the Ki-61 and the heinkel 113 look alike?"
No, it's not just you. They look alike. The easy way to tell them apart is that the Ki-61 in that photograph is only a few inches long, whereas the He-100 in the drawing was about 27 feet from nose to tail. The Japanese theorised that their new miniature aeroplanes would be hard to see, but they had to scrap the idea because it was, in all other respects, a silly idea.
LOL!!!:rofl
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I think if you want to know about some of the history into the development of the Ki-61 and the Ki-100, refer here...
Kawasaki Ki-61 Hien (http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Elevon/baugher_other/ki-61.html#RTFToC1)
Kawasaki Ki-100 (http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Elevon/baugher_other/ki100.html#RTFToC1)
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Originally posted by Apeking
"Is it just me, or do the Ki-61 and the heinkel 113 look alike?"
No, it's not just you. They look alike. The easy way to tell them apart is that the Ki-61 in that photograph is only a few inches long, whereas the He-100 in the drawing was about 27 feet from nose to tail. The Japanese theorised that their new miniature aeroplanes would be hard to see, but they had to scrap the idea because it was, in all other respects, a silly idea.
I heard the problem was finding pilots.
Mace
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You're both misinformed. The real problem was making them fly more than a few feet at a time.
Pick up a book some time, you might learn something.
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Those DBs guzzled gas, and the tank was 1/5th a thimble. Hub's right on this one
EDIT: JD the He100D looks very little like ki61. Check it out from other angles. Distinctively has the German angles and slopes.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
You're both misinformed. The real problem was making them fly more than a few feet at a time.
Pick up a book some time, you might learn something.
Link??????
:lol
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http://www.foyles.co.uk
or
http://www.motorbooks.co.uk
;)
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According to The Encyclopedia of Aircraft of WWII(General Editor Paul Eden), the Ki-61 was heavily influenced by a German engineer by the name of Dr. Richard Vogt. He helped Kawasaki acquire manufacturing rights to the German DB600 and DB601. He also helped design it .
Hope that helps,
Bill
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Originally posted by FDutchmn
I think if you want to know about some of the history into the development of the Ki-61 and the Ki-100, refer here...
Kawasaki Ki-61 Hien (http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Elevon/baugher_other/ki-61.html#RTFToC1)
Kawasaki Ki-100 (http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Elevon/baugher_other/ki100.html#RTFToC1)
I see that Baugher perpetuates the myth of the Ki-100 destroying 14 F6Fs.. It never happened. I've posted the facts of this fight on this BBS several times. He quotes Francillon, who has no more credibility than Caiden as he is another notorious inventor of fiction.
The Ki-100 was obsolete when it appeared in 1945. It wasn't a match for any of the late-war fighters.... Heck, the P-47N was 120 mph faster than the Ki-100 at the altitudes where the B-29s were flying.
My regards,
Widewing