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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: titanic3 on January 23, 2007, 12:25:44 PM
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i think we should replace the me262 version that we have with the one that carried the 24x R4M HE rockets and 2x 500k bomb or 250k (i dunno which one). wat do you guys/girls think, should we stick with this version or the latter version? o_O
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i want the six gun one:O:aok:O:aok:O:aok:O:aok:O:aok
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I agree will give people more oppurtunity to auger them in.
(not that they need any help in doing so already)
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Or how about this.
(http://www.stormbirds.net/images_variants/me262A-1aU4_photo3.jpg)
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Bronk
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LOLOLOLOL bronk
we all wish 4 that
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OMFG!!!!! nice pic bronk, wow :O :O :O :eek: :lol
also, do u noe wat's the mm of that gun?
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im no expert but it looks at least 40mm.
wouldnt be surprised if someone told us it was 75mm.
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Its a 50mm BK 5.
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Why get the Me-262A-2a when it was a crappy plane? It was virtually worthless as an attack plane and couldn't maneuver like the Me-262A-1a. The Storm Bird built up too much speed in diving attacks, making the plane almost uncontrollable and very inaccurate when making dive attack runs. It was also gimped in the guns department with only 2x 30mm cannons. The only ordnance it could drop with any sort of accuracy were cluster munitions (and you don't have to be accurate with these ordnances) dropped using horizontal attacks at low level.
ack-ack
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BK 5 info
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=1012
Bronk
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for the ground attack(ack-ack) we could just turn off the engine u noe or just leave only one engine on.
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Originally posted by titanic3
for the ground attack(ack-ack) we could just turn off the engine u noe or just leave only one engine on.
Again, 9 out of 10 times you'd miss the target completely. The Storm Bird was that crappy of an attack plane. It was just too fast and wasn't designed as an attack plane. That's why cluster munitions were the best ordnance to use with the Storm Bird because you didn't have to be too accurate in dropping those. The 2x 30mm cannons might help in strafing but with only enough ammo for 1 maybe 2 passes, it's almost worthless in this role too.
so go ahead and turn those engines off and glide bomb or just turn one off like you suggested it won't change the fact that the Storm Bird was a miserable failure as an attack plane.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Why get the Me-262A-2a when it was a crappy plane? It was virtually worthless as an attack plane and couldn't maneuver like the Me-262A-1a. The Storm Bird built up too much speed in diving attacks, making the plane almost uncontrollable and very inaccurate when making dive attack runs. It was also gimped in the guns department with only 2x 30mm cannons. The only ordnance it could drop with any sort of accuracy were cluster munitions (and you don't have to be accurate with these ordnances) dropped using horizontal attacks at low level.
ack-ack
ackack....maybe ppl will use it for recon?......if it catches enemy bombers at high alt...say bye bye to them with the 50mm
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Originally posted by Bronk
BK 5 info
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=1012
Bronk
nice find, thanks.
loved this quote from Goering
“You might find around Germany some jet airplanes equipped with anti-tank guns. Don’t blame me for such monstrosities. This was done on the explicit orders of the Fuehrer. Hitler knew nothing about the air. He may have known about the Army or Navy, but absolutely nothing about the air. He even considered the Me-262 to be a bomber and he insisted it should be called a bomber.”
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I like the 262 the way it is. It cost allot so you don't see them too often. It already has good guns. Some times I wonder why people want to try to improve the perkie rides. They are already in the Uber catagory for a reason.
Replace it? I say no.
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Originally posted by spikes
ackack....maybe ppl will use it for recon?......if it catches enemy bombers at high alt...say bye bye to them with the 50mm
you can already do that with the existing Me-262A-1a, except without the 50mm cannon. But then, if you can't hit a bomber with 4x 30mm cannons, I seriously doubt you'll hit it with a 50mm cannon.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
you can already do that with the existing Me-262A-1a, except without the 50mm cannon. But then, if you can't hit a bomber with 4x 30mm cannons, I seriously doubt you'll hit it with a 50mm cannon.
ack-ack
true about that, hard to hit a bomber with 2x 40mms on hurri
much more harder to hit a bomber with 1 gun going 500mph
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Why get the Me-262A-2a when it was a crappy plane? It was virtually worthless as an attack plane and couldn't maneuver like the Me-262A-1a. The Storm Bird built up too much speed in diving attacks, making the plane almost uncontrollable and very inaccurate when making dive attack runs. It was also gimped in the guns department with only 2x 30mm cannons. The only ordnance it could drop with any sort of accuracy were cluster munitions (and you don't have to be accurate with these ordnances) dropped using horizontal attacks at low level.
ack-ack
I don't know if I'd use the 2 x 500Kgs much, but the R4Ms were deadly vs bomber formations.
My book on the 262 has a page on the dive-bombing profile - it is odd to say the least. The 262 drivers would come in high, then dive down to about 15K and cut their bombs loose - not the best thing for divebombing accuracy. The explanation was that they were trying to avoid AAA fire.
I'd like to see the 262 A-2 just because I'd like to see 262 drivers diving into the heavy ack on ground attack instead of just cherry picking. It might also make for more bomber interceptions - a lot of the 262 drivers I see don't seem to want to put their precious perks at risk by getting into it with the bombers defensive guns.
EagleDNY
$.02
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Screw the bombs. They'd be useless as mentioned (ever try pulling out of a dive in a 262? You rip your wings off *cough*bsmodeling*cough*). But those R4Ms were used, and were VERY lethal, against bombers.
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ehhh....bombs gor radar....... .salvo 2 hit a dar and get out, no real point for bombs but.....
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Originally posted by spikes
ehhh....bombs gor radar....... .salvo 2 hit a dar and get out, no real point for bombs but.....
spellcheck much :p
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lol, was typing with 1 hand
while eating and watchin TV
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hmm