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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: DREDger on January 24, 2007, 09:46:22 AM
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Hardly an important thread, but just wanted to get an idea of what people thought.
1. Would you consider it 'bad form' for a fighter plane pilot to send a salute to a goon pilot if he shoots him down? (if the goon didn't salute first)
2. Do you consider it 'bad form' to send a first to any other plane if you win the battle?
3. Who gives a ****. Salute for respect or salute to grief, whatever you want.
I know there are various circumstances...do you know the player, was it an excellent 1vs1 lasting 15 mins, things like that where it's a genuine 'I salute you with respect sir' or 'haha, snuck up on you and blasted you defenseless dweeb'
I was wondering if there is some unspoken ettiquette for this.
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I think alot of people throw around the salute too much, but its disrespectful not to return one so its a double edged sword,
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generaly bad form to send an S! if you owned someone.
good form to send one when you die in any circumstance.
bad form to salute someone if you cherry picked them out of another fight.
sometimes when you win, perhaps when you and a team mate beat a much better pilot through teamwork, it is good form to send a salute then say 'saluted for great 1 vs 2 flying' or somesuch remark.
generaly a salute when you win, with no other text, is bad form, especially when you didnt earn the kill for yourself.
i generally try to return any salute though, ya know, some noob got his first kill and is just dying to salute something, doesnt take much away from me to grant them the pleasure of a returned salute even if i know they dont really deserve it.
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I offer
all the time. Really just depends on my mood. I have never saluted anyone who shot me down while I was in a goon though. Nor if I am the shooter of the goon.
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I'll often send a
to another player after a good fight, win or lose, as a sign of respect. In fact I'll send a to a whole group that I felt I had a good fight against and who worked me over hard (example: "killer" and friends).
I suppose if I win or if it's from a me against many it's not always taken that way but that's always my intent.
If I sneak up on someone and blow them out, HO them or if we're in unmatched planes, etc., etc. there's no reason to .
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IMO,
1. No way. Last night I saw Mulf succesfully out fly an enemy 190 with his C47 for over 5 minutes. I couldnt believe how well he did. Stayed up long enough for help to arrive. If I was the enemy 190 I would have certainly saluted Mulf, regardless of outcome.
2. No again. If foeman was a good fight, let him know.
3. Tougher here. It all comes down to the player I guess. I salute anyone who leaves me with "that" feeling. Win or lose, this guy was fun!....salute coming. I also reply to all 200 and PM attacks with a salute rather than engaging in ...well...that crapola.
All of the above is just the opinions I hold. I have been playing 13 months and Im sure that like anything, length of time involved with something can alter how one reacts to situations.
Good Post.
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always S!. it is just showing respect and manners.
S!
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if its batfinkv that shoots me down ill send a or a or a damn or blast.
hey if the guy puts up a good fight and you enjoyed it send a and show him respect at a good fight.
theres to much crap and bad talk going on of late
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SkyRock<----owns salutes!:aok
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Thanks for the replies, good input.
Here is what I think.
1. I never send a first salute to a goon if I shoot it down. Defenseless player in unmatched airplane, strikes me as neener neener, u wasted all that time i got you.
If guy does good job flying it, i might say on open channel, 'great goon flying', but not say his name so it is just between he and I, no need to tell everyone who was shot down.
rarely will I return a salute when in a goon and get shot down, although I did last night to a player who I thought was one of the more experienced guys (a squad leader of a very well known squad, the basis for this post)
2. If I shoot down a guy I never(rarely) send the first salute, though I might on open channel say 'great flying' or something, again with no name. Although it kills me when I get schooled, I'll salute back in almost all cases a first salute.
3.. who cares anyway, just a game. I should be working not writing on this post.
Just to let you know, I have broken every rule above before over the course of my time in AH. I've saluted goons I shot down, not returned salutes after good fights, did it to say 'neener neener', cherry picked you, shot you down in a 10vs1 fight....so on and so on.
That was long before though, before I started flying with Lynx. I don't do that anymore, was bad form on my part.
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
generaly bad form to send an S! if you owned someone.
good form to send one when you die in any circumstance.
bad form to salute someone if you cherry picked them out of another fight.
sometimes when you win, perhaps when you and a team mate beat a much better pilot through teamwork, it is good form to send a salute then say 'saluted for great 1 vs 2 flying' or somesuch remark.
generaly a salute when you win, with no other text, is bad form, especially when you didnt earn the kill for yourself.
i generally try to return any salute though, ya know, some noob got his first kill and is just dying to salute something, doesnt take much away from me to grant them the pleasure of a returned salute even if i know they dont really deserve it.
*SNORK*
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Originally posted by SkyRock
SkyRock<----owns a lime green 1973 Ford Pinto Wagon!:aok
There..all better now :D
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Originally posted by DadRabit
always S!. it is just showing respect and manners.
S!
You know Dad, It has always been taken as respect coming from you. It just shows how a player’s character and reputation effects the dispositions of others around them. You have never in my recollection been a smart arse on open radio. I’m sure that is the reason if you S me after you shot my goon down I wouldn’t take it as an insult.
S!
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1. In the odd case that the goon did some crazy evasives, they deserve a
2. Whether I win or lose, if it's a good fight, I send a .
3. Out of sarcasm (killing vulchers, spawncampers) I'll send a . Salt in the wounds... :)
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I'll send a
when I get shot down if I'm quick enough to catch the name in the text buffer
I'll send a esp if its someone I recognize from the board or the game
I'll return a if I get one and see it
pretty much to the individual I suppose
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I was the guy who sent dredger a
on ch 200 last night after i shot down his goon. I meant no offense nor was i rubbing it in.
the situation was that about 15 minutes before i had helped defend against a well run 110 noe at base 47. they had gotten town down but their goons had died. the closest enemy base was about 2.5 sectors away so i engaged in a furball down south for a bit and had just landed my kills when i saw the base flashing up north. there were no bish there so i upped quickly and found a goon at the town about to drop. it died. it was dredger.
i was pretty impressed by the fact he had had the patience to time his run so well, dedication to fly that distance and the fact he had almost pulled it off. in fact, i thought...hey thats something i would have tried to pull off!!
out of respect i him and enjoy a few lines of pleasant exchange on ch 200 where i compliment him and he compliments me on catching him.
had no idea i might have offended him and if i did, i apologize. truly meant to show him respect for his effort:aok
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had no idea i might have offended him
Falcnwng, you are a class act and a top player, and I've never heard nor thought otherwise.
I take no offence at being shot down by you by being an alert player making an excellent play(though I was hating it to be sure). I was 99.9% sure when you sent me the it was intended as you say (now 100% sure)
Last night when I was about 12 miles from the base, I saw Falcon land his 4 kills...just about the time the base started flashing. I was thinking to my self 'dogfarts, I wish this guy in PARTICULAR was preoccupied or otherwise engaged right now.'
Sure enough, he upped to check out what was a 100% dead town, from my understaffed mission 30 mins before. He shot me down 100 ft from the edge of town.
I put this post up to see what people thought about the function, not just for a goon but in general terms as well. I didn't want to disclose your name or mention the BOPs for objectivity, although I think it is cool you added to the post telling this story I wanted to tell as well.(lest I sound like sour grapes)
The chat on 200 was as he says, cordial and sportsmanlike. Fair play, no foul, excellent attention.
Falcnwng and BOP's
:aok
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Ill send one, or wont.
I usually say somehting though if it was a good battle, but then again, Im a buff jokey mostley, so Im used to the 2-3 planes trying to get to me.
CHeers
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If im not already preoccupied with other bandits, when a person exibits great skill and gives me a sweaty palmed fight, regardless of what the outcome was I will try to salute. Especially so when said fight was in a 'lesser' airframe - in other words I rarely
LA7s & SPit 16s :)
I never thought of it as 'rubbing it in', or that it would be taken as such.
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The only time i
the enemy is if i know the guy or it has been a good dogfight (like a 1vs1) and i just managed to pull out the win. I will also salute if the opposite happens and for some reason im the one that goes down.
but thats just about it.
Flameboy
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I don't really salute, as I don't really know most of you, and hence can't remark on your character. That by no means excludes some sort of compliment or positive remark after a good fight, or an odd situation, incredibly lucky shot, etc, but the only reason I ever saluted was that was the etiquette taught to me in AW, and over time, at least for me, it really lost all sincerity, and pretty much became just a form of greeting or a kneejerk response.
Given the number of I've received after being vulched, or killed in 10 to 1 odds, etc, I'd have to say that a lot of other folks aren't using it as a sincere showing of respect or in a complimentary fashion either.
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If I shoot someone down and get shot down by the same guy during the same sortie sometimes I send a
to say...we're even. Otherwise I'll send one if it was a good fight win or lose, Or if somebody shoots me down a couple times and lands a bunch of kills I'll as well. I've never sent one with bad intentions, however I have received a few that I felt were pretty sarcastic.
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Originally posted by 475FG Savlan
I never thought of it as 'rubbing it in', or that it would be taken as such.
Me, either.
Now I'm worried that I may have offended hundreds of people.
- oldman (ah, well, let them eat cake)
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I'll generally S! any pilot who puts up a good or reasonable account of themselves in a fight. Win, loose, stalemate, 1v1, 2v1, 1v2 XvY etc...
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Originally posted by rogerdee
if its batfinkv that shoots me down ill send a or a or a damn or blast.
hmmm, i seem to remember being shot down alot more by you than the other way round.
usually when i see a hurrimk1 or D3A in the middle of a furball, i know its either you or one of you squaddies and i make sure i pick them off first :D
S! RD