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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: LTARghst on January 25, 2007, 02:39:06 AM
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Utterly worthless. Until HT takes out strat targets! Sorry but it irks me to see people who are worthless in GV's and only hit strats have a top GV ranking. There are some bad *** GV'ers who get screwed in this..Trauma...TripleD...Sher ri, and a few others. Sorry but I was upset to see someone who only hits strats in the top. HT take out the damn Strats and make it fair for the honest GV'ers.
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Oh yeah and one of my favorites Rondar!
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and GV rank is important because... ?
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bout like asking and you are?
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hmmm not sure ghost i have gv rank 7
havent hit one strat yet not something i do in a gv. just kills,captures and town hits in an osty.
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:cry mummy, mummy... :cry
:p
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Rank doesn't mean squat in this game. It's the Kill to Death ratio that catches my eye. But as far as game play goes, taking out strat is important as to keeping the enemy weak and puts them in a defensive position. I wish the Bish would take out more strat!
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You don't think it could be your "hit % vs. object" being 0% messing with your rank, do you? Of course, that would mean you would actually have to go against strat targets.
But that would be up to you.
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Originally posted by TexInVa
You don't think it could be your "hit % vs. object" being 0% messing with your rank, do you? Of course, that would mean you would actually have to go against strat targets.
That wouldn't help. The only way to get hit % against targets in your GV stats is in a PT boat with rockets (not sure if torpedos add to it or not) against either objects (a town or field) or a fleet (the ships are objects). Killing objects with a tank, Ostie or anything else don't add to that score.
If you take out vehicle object damage scores not only will people quit going against strat (which BTW, helps the country and is usually time-consuming), what incentive will they have to take down fields, hangers, acks, towns, etc., etc.
I know for myself that if I'm on a fighter mission, not attack, I am very unlikely to go after any ground targets even though it may help my country at that time. Same concept.
[EDIT] I've since found out in another forum that torpedos also count toward object hit %.
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Well, I guess that explains why my score sucks, too, doesn't it?
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Ya, and your kow what else makes me mad. (shakes fist) People that take Ki's and Ju's and score as attack an bob strat targets to better there score. OK back to reality. You know if a number is that big a deal you have some further issues with compensation that need to be addressed. Further more, does a number really matter? I mean after all it is just a game. I like to look at the score and think, yup, ive whooped'em. You should have enough confidence in your own ability and not need a stupid number to back it up. You dont wanna end up a Skyrock'esk egomaniac runing around talking in third person about how u own people. Besides, wanna have a voice in how people play there game, start paying there 14.95. Untill then get over what ever insecurities you have and play the GAME.:furious
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Hit% vs targets also includes your 20 and 30mm guns on PT not just rockets... Yes torpedoes count and not only against strats but against ships also....
In case you were counting:aok
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While I'm not much of a ranking guy, doesn't it seem a bit silly to get rid of the strat scorepadding, in order for the spawncampers to get their due credit?
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
While I'm not much of a ranking guy, doesn't it seem a bit silly to get rid of the strat scorepadding, in order for the spawncampers to get their due credit?
What he said.:aok
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gv rank is easy if your able to get to a field in a panzer and get a goon line on uppers and vh, your good for 20-30 before you get waxed. I have like 220 kills in a wimpy t34 so far this tour pulling that.
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Originally posted by uptown
Rank doesn't mean squat in this game. It's the Kill to Death ratio that catches my eye.
If it matter to him than it matters........Man I get tired of this self righteous BS........some o you guys need to form your own opinion instead of ridin the coat tails of some self proclaimed uber furballer. This is not a direct attack against you uptown as I don't know you in the slightest. but it's my honest reaction to everyone who parrots a similar statement to the one you made above...
I agree with LTARghst, as the scoring goes that is a ridiculous way to score GV hit percentage. And GV score doesn't matter to me in the slightest.
My $0.02
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Rank in this game is a joke. A few of us played the score game for a day and went from 300 something to the top 10 just by following a set of score rules. Something like hit towns or strats with PT rockets, shoot strats with this vehicle, etc. It is a bunch of BS. That is why the top scores for the month are a big joke. They mean nothing to anyone except those that need to boost thier ego by seeing thier name in lights. If you want to play the score game, more power to you.
Score does NOT make you a good player. In this game, score means you learned how to game the game and spent some time out where nobody could shoot at you. There are those with good scores that have earned that score through solid play though, don't get me wrong. But there are a majority that just play score potato.
As for GVs hitting strat targets for score. That's just plan lame but you go for it. When it comes to one on one in a tank battle, I would be willing to bet that after the first two or three times I blast you rear back to the tower, you will be upping in your carpet bombing Lancs to come back for the "I'll show them". :rofl Yeah, you will show us alright. That your score is all fluff. :p
Stat targets are an important part of the game and if the players with low self esteem need to have thier names in lights, so be it. Rooks, Knights and Bishops all know the truth. That is what all the laughing is each month when the tops scores are announced. It is good for comic relief.
LTARsqrl <>
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Just get rid of the ranking system, sense ranks gives you nothing but bragging rights anyway, you don't get any special plane or gv (mumbles under breath just a ego thing IMO)
I play for fun and the friendships ive made weither i'm flying a plane or going in a GV, the games supposed to be about FUN.
one thing i do find interesting is the bombers that fly around tank town padding there scores :aok
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They mean nothing to anyone except those that need to boost thier ego by seeing thier name in lights
:rofl
Didnt you start this post?
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who really cares about ranks?
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But wouldn't it be nice if they did reflect within reason, who the best of the best are each tour. Then you could look at the board and say "man if I practice a little more maybe someday I can beat ##### in a 1v1 or in a heads up tank fight." Or my squad made top ten in Bombers, or GV!
There will always be the gamers gaming the system but why not raise issue with the obvious blatent flaws in the system. If you don't say it...it didn't happen.
Scores and stats, not ranks neccessarily are a great way to guage your own improvement in a game that is obviously VERY important to most of us (looking at the hours that most spend online). Wouldn't it be great if rank was an accurate reflection of your score and stats? I think it would. We all know who the blatant score potatos are...it's obvious. But hit percentage is a very important stat and because of the issue that ghst has raised, not for the first time I might add, GV hit percentage is totally meaningless. IMO
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Well I would be willing to bet..that I could make 98 percent of the top ten go poof in no time in GV. I am not one who usually spawn camps..no patience for it. Now if they are upping like crazy I will meet em out there. But alot of these so called top ranked GVers to me IMHO are a joke. Rank is a dead issue cause it is a joke but it just yanks my osti to see it gamed that way.
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Originally posted by LTARghst
Utterly worthless. Until HT takes out strat targets! Sorry but it irks me to see people who are worthless in GV's and only hit strats have a top GV ranking. There are some bad *** GV'ers who get screwed in this..Trauma...TripleD...Sher ri, and a few others. Sorry but I was upset to see someone who only hits strats in the top. HT take out the damn Strats and make it fair for the honest GV'ers.
IMO,
There are very few bad***GVers that I have seen. Certainly Zazen in an Osti, Hooter in any tank, Dr7, and a few others. Those you mention are bad*** spawn campers. Roll out from oposite sides of an open field and bang it out gun for gun. Thats the only way to determine. Real tank conflict had nothing to do with roasting marshmallows. I have 695 vehicle kills so far this month to 245 deaths. Most of those came from being bombed while tanking. However I don't mind that as much as I do Sherri(not an attack on Sherri) rolling out in a jeep to kill me in my Tiger. Yeah that is Bad*** Gving? Right. Death from above is something that is a reality in ground war. Being killed by enemies camping out "spawns" is not.
How could someone only hitting Strats be ranked in the top when half the scoring is vrs. enemies?
Basically it's been said before. To get a good score you must do things needed to accomplish that. Some people could care less about thier overall score or even any segment of it, but also some people enjoy monitoring and improving their score and I think the game would be lacking without some sort of scoring in place. Hitting Strats is closer to the real thing than camping, for sure. I'm not defending hitting strats or the current scoring system, rather just replying because your post seems a bit off when using terms like "honest Gv'ers".
Honest GV'ers ate dirt and drank deiesel. not cocoa and smores.
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Originally posted by LTARghst
Utterly worthless. Until HT takes out spawns! Sorry but it irks me to see people who are worthless in GV's and only camp spawn points have a top GV ranking. There are some bad *** GV'ers who get screwed in this..Trauma...TripleD...Sher ri, and a few others. Sorry but I was upset to see someone who only spawn camps at the top. HT take out the damn spawns and make it fair for the "honest" GV'ers.
Fixed your post ;)
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Im wondering why this post continues if rank dosent matter. Looks like somebody needs to boost there ego with rank or this post never would have started. People are gonna play the way they wanna play. Who cares if the rank system is messed up. If you are so sure that u can kill the top 10 ranked guyz than shut up and do it and be happy with the fact thats its been done. This whole thing is stupid IMO. If rank means nothing to you guyz than why even complain about the people that play this way or the way they play. This is a strategic game. If you play it that way then hitting strat targets is important. Cough up my 14.95 and ill change my playing style.
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Well if that is your opinion kamilyun so be it. These guys that i seen with top gv rank. Their k/d is horrible but their hit point percentage is ip there for buildings and such. Not much field captures either. This is not about spawn camping. Spawn campers unless they are good never last very long.
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A K/D is not a way of saying who is the best in the game. Anyone can spawn camp and anyone can BnZ all day in a fast plane... **cough la7 cough** Get guys in regular fights that are on equal grounds and then you can start telling who is better than the other... but then again some of us have lucky days.
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GV's ARE rank.
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No, sorry. Score has a place. I use it constantly. I really like to know what I need to do to get it lower (on my end. I'm not asking for advice). I'm not talking about gaming the game. Stuff like trying to land at least two kills. Try to at least land. Precision bombing in B-17's. This month, I'm working on my jagdbomber skills (which I'm horrible at) and trying to figure out why my accuracy has gone to hell in the B-17 (something really screwy going on there). Since I haven't figured out how to score a base capture in the "attack" column, that will probably always elude me.
Oh, I'll probably play with "the list". Up until the novelty wears off. But my point is, the scoring system has it's place and can be a powerful tool in improving a players ability.
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Originally posted by LTARghst
Well if that is your opinion kamilyun so be it. These guys that i seen with top gv rank. Their k/d is horrible but their hit point percentage is ip there for buildings and such. Not much field captures either. This is not about spawn camping. Spawn campers unless they are good never last very long.
My point (through the sarcasm) was that there are multiple ways to game the game and game the scorz to become a high ranking pwnzorer.
Once the strats disappear, the next problem will be spawn camping which would artificially increase K/D and K/H just b/c someone is sitting behind a spawn with his/her buddies and the occasional supplier. I'd venture to say that there are far more complaints about spawn camping than scorzp@dd1ng anyway.
At any rate, I've never met a "good" spawn camper. :D
And BTW, plz don't take this personally b/c I love you LTARs. You guys keep the vulchers at bay :)
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Originally posted by killnu
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They mean nothing to anyone except those that need to boost thier ego by seeing thier name in lights
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:rofl
Didnt you start this post?
Pssst . . . you forgot to leave the name where you quoted. Here, I'll help you . . .
The first post . . .
Originally posted by LTARghst
Utterly worthless. Until HT takes out strat targets! Sorry but it irks me to see people who are worthless in GV's and only hit strats have a top GV ranking. There are some bad *** GV'ers who get screwed in this..Trauma...TripleD...Sher ri, and a few others. Sorry but I was upset to see someone who only hits strats in the top. HT take out the damn Strats and make it fair for the honest GV'ers.
The post you quote . . .
Originally posted by LTARsqrl
They mean nothing to anyone except those that need to boost thier ego by seeing thier name in lights. If you want to play the score game, more power to you.
I know, I know, "They all look the same to me." :) :) :) :) :)
:rofl
BTW, I agree with sqrl. I think ghst forgot his medication again . . . :huh
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OK, I've had enough.
I personally CARE about both my score and my rank. I try to EARN them through HONEST play. That said, and before I go on, I'm not an angel. All of us have probably at one time or another, and most likely still now, milkrun, vulch, HO, etc., etc., etc. from time to time.
It seems to me these "eliminate scores" whines are coming from those who;
1. Can't play every aspect of the game or
2. Aren't willing to play every aspect of the game.
That's just my guess. I haven't checked your scores.
I recently put together a fighter squad. I didn't look for players with high ranks. I looked for players who had a decent kill per sortie rating in fighters (as I've said on too many occasions, kills per death are meaningless). That gave me a strong indication of who the better fighter pilots available to me were, the point being that even though I care about my own score/rank, I know it's not the only measuring stick of ability and we now have a small squad of decent fighter pilots that I have a lot of fun flying with.
We have what we have and I think it's pretty good. It incents people for all types of play, not just the type that "you" enjoy.
If you want to know who the good players are look at the stats in a way that aligns you with others with similar goals but don't whine if others play differently.
NOTE: Not directed at any individual in this thread but at my "feeling" after reading this as a whole.