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Georgian efforts to trace the nuclear material since the arrest and confirm whether the man did have access to larger quantities have foundered from a lack of cooperation from Russia, he said
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6297713.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6297713.stm)
Anyone else find this news very disturbing? How did this guy acquire such a dangerous material? Why is Russia not cooperating with the investigation? How many more Russians are running around try'n to sell this stuff?
:furious
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I suspect that in the near future there will be a few hundred thousand less blue voters in the U.S.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
I suspect that in the near future there will be a few hundred thousand less blue voters in the U.S.
lazs
My exact thoughts..."Go for the cities"....either way, it affects everyone if it happens, red or blue...it will get to you.
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Deep down I know ya'll would feel bad if San Fransico is hit....
:noid
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If San Fran is hit I hope they hit LA and Sacramento at the same time. Half the wack jobs in this country taken care of right there.
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Originally posted by Hornet33
If San Fran is hit I hope they hit LA and Sacramento at the same time. Half the wack jobs in this country taken care of right there.
Interesting that since these people have differing views than you yet they differ peacefully(if foolishly) that you wish death upon so many. I find it ironic that you call them whack jobs.
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You guys are really really nice people.
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Yeah, I'm sure Hornet was being absolutely serious...or was he simply being sarcastic?
The ironic point being made is that liberals are the majority of those that are against the WOT yet liberals predominate in big cities yet big cities will be the inevitable target terrorists get their hands on such a weapon. If you're unable to see the irony, and yes, even dark humor in this then so be it.
The unfortunate point is the one that Ripsnort makes, while a city full of liberals may be the primary target we will all suffer as a result.
Mace
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Originally posted by deSelys
You guys are really really nice people.
So are they
(http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/117-1743_IMG.JPG)
(http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/117-1723_IMG4.jpg)
Edit: and yes I do beleive it is dark humor!
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
So are they
zinggg...
As sarcastic as we are on this board, I don't believe those represented in the pictures above feel the same...
:lol
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The terrorists will never hit any targets in California. The liberals here are helping advance their agenda and our considered unspoken allies.
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that's not cool, my parents live in sacramento. But I do understand the generalisation. Sacramento Trap Club, right by the Golf course on I-80 had to close its doors because it was on sacramento county property, and sacramento county city council members don't like firearms, at all (SF transplants I bet). They even tried to close a well known local gun store, great guns about 6-7 years back with no success.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
So are they
(http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/117-1743_IMG.JPG)
(http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/117-1723_IMG4.jpg)
Edit: and yes I do beleive it is dark humor!
What happened to the days when the majority of people in America would kick the living crap out of people displaying this kind of...disrepectful indecency?
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Originally posted by VermGhost
What happened to the days when the majority of people in America would kick the living crap out of people displaying this kind of...disrepectful indecency?
Lawsuits....need I say more.
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Take a drive through Buffalo, NY if you want to get a idea what a city would look like after a nuke.
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Originally posted by Hornet33
Lawsuits....need I say more.
Have some beer and a couple Marine buddies together - nobody is above an bellybutton kicking.
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I don't really see how having a blue city go up in vapor would hurt me that much in the long run...
While I do not like to see people vaporized... they can do me no harm in such a state and... the survivors will have a lot more to think about for a while than if I am wearing my seatbelt or eating foods with saturated fats in em...
It would simply set back their agenda a bit and give me some breathing room.
Apart from the aformentioned misery of death and destruction...
It would seem that in every other way... a big plus for me.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
I don't really see how having a blue city go up in vapor would hurt me that much in the long run...
While I do not like to see people vaporized... they can do me no harm in such a state and... the survivors will have a lot more to think about for a while than if I am wearing my seatbelt or eating foods with saturated fats in em...
It would simply set back their agenda a bit and give me some breathing room.
Apart from the aformentioned misery of death and destruction...
It would seem that in every other way... a big plus for me.
lazs
The infrastructure, such as food, water, electricity, FUEL, transportation, that you so enjoy, would cease to exist if the blast was in your state. Probably for quite a long time.
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Originally posted by VermGhost
What happened to the days when the majority of people in America would kick the living crap out of people displaying this kind of...disrepectful indecency?
What about those that spit on the troops coming back from Viet Nam?
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i agree that san fransicans and new yorkers in a gaseous state won't be passing any nanny state laws for a while... but its a shame to think that we would let something like that happen before acting. we really need to find out what Iran is up to.
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100 grams is not enough to create chain reaction….. just FYI,
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what would happen if 100g were wrapped around a stick of dynamite and detonated in downtown Manhattan? Is that enough to cause a major decontamination effort?
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Originally posted by Yeager
what would happen if 100g were wrapped around a stick of dynamite and detonated in downtown Manhattan? Is that enough to cause a major decontamination effort?
Oh god please not that
We already have too many New Yawkas moving to Jersey
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Originally posted by Yeager
what would happen if 100g were wrapped around a stick of dynamite and detonated in downtown Manhattan? Is that enough to cause a major decontamination effort?
Nothing would happen. Not enough rads to kill anyone. It might raise cancer rate by .00001% and create panic...and that's about it.
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May I suggest Beverly Hills as a target? Nobody there feels at all threatened now & they don't seem to understand they represent the American cultural aspects Islamofasciastist abhor most fervently.
-MI-
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Here is a better gauge.
Skuzzy please delete this one. I'm fed up and not pulling my language for PC play nice concerns....Sorry Sir...I apologise to you for this...not others.
Right now we are taking sides because it hasen't happened and we are sitting fat and narcisistic. Blue state guys are having fun baiting red stat guys and confirming red state guys are neanderthals and creatons based on blue state ideology. Business as usual for this BBS.
Just like the global warming crowd preaches. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SOME DAY.<--Like them I don't have 100% proof but my feelings tell me it's TRUE.
You blue state guys. After your U.S. city is not the city nuked by a 19 year old middel eastern Islamic hero for the Jihad. What are you going to do? Blue state ideology is to surrender because the U.S. is the evil empire. Red state ideology is to wipe Islam from the planet because they won't stop with one city.
Frankly you blue state guys I hope it's your city so Laz and men like myself can rid the planet of these homocidal lunitics without you ringing your hands about how we are treating them and assulting every U.S. citizen with the ACLU who wants the middeleast turned to grazing land to protect the U.S.A..
Blue state ideology is not immune to Islamic Jihad. Unless your plan is to forsake the U.S. Constitution and convert to Islam to save your keasters. But then France delt with German collaberators as soon as our troops were within 10 miles of Paris and the French citizens knew thay were free.
Once you convince yourself that freedom can be negotiated by comprimising your's or your countries right to exist based on its foundational concepts, you have surrendered to every current and future enemy. You have in your mind created the possiblity that you can live as a slave to another ideological group and arrogantly beleived it is a neccessary comprimise for all citizens of your native country so you won't be a lone collaberator.
After 9/11 if we are not at total war with Islam....then we deserve all our cities nuked. The USA has become too smart for its own survival because our blue state geniuses beleive Islam is only mad at the RED STATES.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
if the blast was in your state.
Wow, some guy gets caught with 100 grams of radioactive material and it only took like 10 posts before he had a huge nuke. Nice.
Yeah, its a VERY long road from Uranium to a bomb, just ask Iran.
Freakin skiddish American population. Remember when we used to be able to think for ourselves without Fox on one side and CNN on the other telling us what to think?
No wonder the world thinks we are dumb..... we are.
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Dismal.
Regards,
hap
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Originally posted by Kurt
Wow, some guy gets caught with 100 grams of radioactive material and it only took like 10 posts before he had a huge nuke. Nice.
Yeah, its a VERY long road from Uranium to a bomb, just ask Iran.
Freakin skiddish American population. Remember when we used to be able to think for ourselves without Fox on one side and CNN on the other telling us what to think?
No wonder the world thinks we are dumb..... we are.
Kurt,
Is there a happily ever after scenario? Will Islam stop beleiving anywhere a Mosque is raised is Islamic territory and it will just be a matter of time and patience before that geographic region is converted and the non-islamic killed or expelled? So the towers in NY did not go down at the hands of Saudi Arabian nationals and almost 3000 innocent people die that day? Or is NY city the republic of NY and not part of the United States of America?
Or are you holding your breath hoping the nuke won't happen on U.S. soil during your life time and that you are guiltily giddy you were not in the towers yourself on 9/11? Iran is inriching uranium. North Korea lied and kept developing nucular technology. Pakistan won't be ruled by it's current ruler forever and Islamic radical elements of the military have attempted assasinations along with supporting Al Queda. Do you really beleive that the Jihadists are not planning for and praying to allah a blue state female or metrosexual is elected president in November?
Do you wish for Barrack Hussein Barama, Billery Clinton or Purple Heart John Kerry to lead us in telling the Jihadists all is forgiven it's Bush's fault we conceid to your demands and offer you peace on your terms because the U.S. is the evil empire? I think we love our I-pods, reality TV and free p0rn0 too much to save ourselves from anialation........but then polishing our blog-jutsu is exactly what the Jihadists pray we will do. It means we aren't signing up to personaly kill them or demanding our government turn their countries into grazing land.
No instead we are demanding our government let them regroup and give them more free shots at getting 9/11 right and kill more of our fellow citizens when they think the time is right under the security of our laws, PC customs and blue state ideology. On the other hand maybe a few loose nukes in the west will dislodge the death hold multicultrialism and feminism already has on us. Die sooner by Islam, die later by the wests lack of reproduction due to our males none interest and fears of getting married anymore...hmmm.....die now by Jihadist or die slowly by restraining order, divorce lawyers and divorce court for the rest of your life?
What guy is DUMB enough to want any of this?
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Russian caught with 100g (3.5oz) of uranium
Originally posted by Russian
100 grams is not enough to create chain reaction….. just FYI,
True....so, what do you plan to do with it?
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Originally posted by bustr
What guy is DUMB enough to want any of this?
I'll let you juge about the dumbness, you seem to have practiced it regularly for a long time.
Anyway, why this tantrum about the evil blue states? All I've seen in this thread is ultra-repubs wishing blue states to be vaporized... and then trying to hide behind the 'dark humor' card....poorly, I must add, as humor is supposed to be funny.
A significant percentage of the USA is sooooo taking the same road as pre-nazi Germany... but hey, what to expect when you mix arrogance with ignorance.
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Originally posted by deSelys
I'll let you juge about the dumbness, you seem to have practiced it regularly for a long time.
Anyway, why this tantrum about the evil blue states? All I've seen in this thread is ultra-repubs wishing blue states to be vaporized... and then trying to hide behind the 'dark humor' card....poorly, I must add, as humor is supposed to be funny.
A significant percentage of the USA is sooooo taking the same road as pre-nazi Germany... but hey, what to expect when you mix arrogance with ignorance.
I'm not hiding behind dark humor. I beleive my country the U.S. will do everything it can to ignore the Jihadists just like Europe seems to be doing the same. As long as the Jihadists keep their damage to 3000 U.S. citizens with 5 years between incidents, we will do nothing. The only things happening in Europe have been cars burned in France, trains bombed in Spain, trains bombed in England, a movie director murdered in Holland and an ongoing war of rape on indiginous girls and women in Scandinavia by imigrant 1st and second generation youths.
No biggiy is it? As long as the Jihadists don't screw up and nuke an american city, or a European city, no harm no foul. And until then we all play supercilious self engrandising blog-jutsu on each other and ignore the Jihadists. Yes at this point it may be a good thing for the U.S. and Europe to get a city or two nuked so we save our civilizations. Other wise we will hand it to them by the middle of this century by smugly pointing out how others throw tantrums while we practice web blog-jutsu behind our anomnynity.
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Originally posted by deSelys
... but hey, what to expect when you mix arrogance with ignorance.
You?
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Originally posted by Kurt
Wow, some guy gets caught with 100 grams of radioactive material and it only took like 10 posts before he had a huge nuke. Nice.
Minor correction. No one said the guy had a nuke.
Yeah, its a VERY long road from Uranium to a bomb, just ask Iran.
And how long is long enough? It's not a matter of how long, it's what are the consequences when they get it?
Freakin skiddish American population.
This is the key to the discussion. Those of you that derisively and dismissively consider us just "skiddish". I can think of about 3,000 reasons for the US to remember where we are and who declared war on whom.
Remember when we used to be able to think for ourselves without Fox on one side and CNN on the other telling us what to think?
Ahhhh...the old "slavish masses incapable of independant thought huddeled in fear in front of the TV waiting for some news reader to tell us what to do argument". If TV is having such an influence on you I'd recommend you get out more.
No wonder the world thinks we are dumb..... we are.
Feel free to speak for yourself, besides, if the "world" think's we're dumb you should consider the source. What has the "world" done to make you think it's in a position to judge?
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I am not hiding behind anything. I am being pragmatic. The only way the blue city dwellers will leave my lifestyle and freedom alone is if they have something even bigger to worry about.
There will be a terrorist attack on this country.. like before... it will take out thousands of blue voters in a blue city.
I do not wish for this but it is inevitable and... it will give me some breathing room.
I don't believe the islamofacists like or dislike any American more or less than any other but...
The blue sardine people make a much more attractive target all packed in together like that and all.
Even at it's worst.. say they do a bunch of smaller scale attacks on red areas... same result... everyone will have more to worry about than if I say the N word or wear my seatbelt or what kind of mileage my car gets or what kind of gun(s) I own or how I raise children.
airports and public transportation may be even more restricted but... who cares? I don't use em except in the rare emergency anyway.
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Originally posted by bustr
Right now we are taking sides because it hasen't happened and we are sitting fat and narcisistic. Blue state guys are having fun baiting red stat guys and confirming red state guys are neanderthals and creatons based on blue state ideology. Business as usual for this BBS.
lol, this is good. Here are three posts right after the original post:
"I suspect that in the near future there will be a few hundred thousand less blue voters in the U.S." That was the first reply
"Deep down I know ya'll would feel bad if San Fransico is hit...." 3rd reply
"If San Fran is hit I hope they hit LA and Sacramento at the same time. Half the wack jobs in this country taken care of right there." 4th reply
And let's not forget you: "Blue state ideology is to surrender because the U.S. is the evil empire"
And then blame blue states for baiting you!! rof!! You baited yourselves!
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
True....so, what do you plan to do with it?
To make tea out of it of course :D
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See Rule #7
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Originally posted by ~Caligula~
how funny
u guys really think them jihadists would pick a target according to whether it`s a rep or dem city?
No, I think most believe they will pick a target according to where they think they can 1) get the most publicity by 2) killing the greatest number of Americans.
Like Israel, this would result in targeting the larger cities. Like Israel, those are the places where our Left is concentrated.
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Originally posted by Russian
Nothing would happen. Not enough rads to kill anyone. It might raise cancer rate by .00001% and create panic...and that's about it.
According to Mr Merabishvili, the Russian said the uranium was just a sample of a much larger amount he had available to sell.
Russia is not cooperating with the investigation to confrim if he had access to larger amounts. The material came from somewhere and I don't believe it's unreasonable to assume he could have gotten more.
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See Rules #4, #5
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
So are they
(http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/117-1743_IMG.JPG)
(http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/117-1723_IMG4.jpg)
Edit: and yes I do beleive it is dark humor!
Thank you Gunslinger...I was in a happy mood, but now i want to go and kill some left wing hippy stunninghunks......:mad:
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yep...toad put it well..
the left wingers all huddle together in the large cities. Big cities make attractive targets...
big city go boom.... that many less lefties to worry about what I am doing.
Hell... might even take up smoking again.
lazs
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Trinity_explosion.jpg)
only a matter of time....
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Until someone turns a bowl of oatmeal over? :huh
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Originally posted by lazs2
Hell... might even take up smoking again.
lazs
May as well, the fallout will likely kill ya before the stogies do.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Until someone turns a bowl of oatmeal over? :huh
:aok :rofl :aok
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Originally posted by Sixpence
lol, this is good. Here are three posts right after the original post:
"I suspect that in the near future there will be a few hundred thousand less blue voters in the U.S." That was the first reply
"Deep down I know ya'll would feel bad if San Fransico is hit...." 3rd reply
"If San Fran is hit I hope they hit LA and Sacramento at the same time. Half the wack jobs in this country taken care of right there." 4th reply
And let's not forget you: "Blue state ideology is to surrender because the U.S. is the evil empire"
And then blame blue states for baiting you!! rof!! You baited yourselves!
I live in Oakland CA. A short distance from San Francisco. In this scenario I suspect I will be dead and you will be on this BBS quietly thanking some entity that you were not here with me while bleeding your condolances to this chior.....
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Reading this again, I really don't understand why you right-wingers made such a fuss about 9-11: The WTC was in NYC, a blue city.
Why acting like you were hurt when you were in fact rejoicing about those 3000+ dead metrosexuals and voting women?
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Originally posted by deSelys
Reading this again, I really don't understand why you right-wingers made such a fuss about 9-11: The WTC was in NYC, a blue city.
Why acting like you were hurt when you were in fact rejoicing about those 3000+ dead metrosexuals and voting women?
They weren't all commies and we joke now because there has yet to be a nuke. If/when it happens the joking will stop I promise.
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The commies are selling fissionable materials on the black market? Good grief, nobody saw this one coming.
I see that the ideas of capitalism and greed are blossoming nicely in Comrade Lenin's workers' paradise.
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I got a simple idea (and i know some of you r gonna hate my guts for it)
but i say desrtoy them before we get destroyed (kill or be killed)
:furious :furious :furious :furious
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Originally posted by Wes14
I got a simple idea (and i know some of you r gonna hate my guts for it)
but i say desrtoy them before we get destroyed (kill or be killed)
:furious :furious :furious :furious
SARCASM AND DARK HUMOR WARNING FOR ALL OF THOSE WHO HAVE HAD THEIR SENSE OF HUMOR (and testicles) SURGICALY REMOVED!
Can you drill for oil underneith a sheet of glass?
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Can you drill for oil underneith a sheet of glass?
yep blow up the glass and get the oil:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by nirvana
What about those that spit on the troops coming back from Viet Nam?
They gave birth to the ones carrying those signs
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Originally posted by bustr
Kurt,
Is there a happily ever after scenario? Will Islam stop beleiving anywhere a Mosque is raised is Islamic territory and it will just be a matter of time and patience before that geographic region is converted and the non-islamic killed or expelled? So the towers in NY did not go down at the hands of Saudi Arabian nationals and almost 3000 innocent people die that day? Or is NY city the republic of NY and not part of the United States of America?
Or are you holding your breath hoping the nuke won't happen on U.S. soil during your life time and that you are guiltily giddy you were not in the towers yourself on 9/11? Iran is inriching uranium. North Korea lied and kept developing nucular technology. Pakistan won't be ruled by it's current ruler forever and Islamic radical elements of the military have attempted assasinations along with supporting Al Queda. Do you really beleive that the Jihadists are not planning for and praying to allah a blue state female or metrosexual is elected president in November?
Do you wish for Barrack Hussein Barama, Billery Clinton or Purple Heart John Kerry to lead us in telling the Jihadists all is forgiven it's Bush's fault we conceid to your demands and offer you peace on your terms because the U.S. is the evil empire? I think we love our I-pods, reality TV and free p0rn0 too much to save ourselves from anialation........but then polishing our blog-jutsu is exactly what the Jihadists pray we will do. It means we aren't signing up to personaly kill them or demanding our government turn their countries into grazing land.
No instead we are demanding our government let them regroup and give them more free shots at getting 9/11 right and kill more of our fellow citizens when they think the time is right under the security of our laws, PC customs and blue state ideology. On the other hand maybe a few loose nukes in the west will dislodge the death hold multicultrialism and feminism already has on us. Die sooner by Islam, die later by the wests lack of reproduction due to our males none interest and fears of getting married anymore...hmmm.....die now by Jihadist or die slowly by restraining order, divorce lawyers and divorce court for the rest of your life?
What guy is DUMB enough to want any of this?
Do you always rant like that? What the heck are you spewing about? I pointed out that 100mg of Uranium doesn't make a bomb and suddenly you know everything about me?
You, my friend, just went a long way toward proving me correct. You are so busy trying to get everyone to agree with your view that you didn't even bother to notice that I didn't post one.
You think that your hot headed rant and trying to 'convert' my frame of mind is some how different from a hot headed Muslim trying to change my mind? Its not.
Extremism is evil regardless if the extremest is a Muslim, or if he is a Christian, or Jewish, Hindu, Cherokee or any other creed or religion.
You, are an extremist. You just proved it. Now, take your poor assumptions and your attitude and plant them firmly in your dark hole sir.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Until someone turns a bowl of oatmeal over? :huh
:p
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40009000/jpg/_40009431_nagasaki238.jpg)
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Kurt,
A hot headed Muslim is more likely to take your head from your shoulders than waste his time ranting at you. 9/11 happened. I assume 3000 of your and my country men were murdered. You seem to not care that they died at the hands of hot headed Muslims.
Do you want the United States to be destroyed by Islam in the name of Allah?
This question is not a rant. 3000 Americans were murdered on American soil by Muslims in the name of Allah. In 1941 a similar number were murdered by the Japanese at Pearl Harbor, American soil. Our ancestors declared war and proceeded to systimaticly wipe Japan from the Pacific and dropped Atom bombs on Japan as the American response to the unprovoced murder of its citizens.
So I'm not ranting. I'm speaking from a sound working historical American response to massive murders of it's innocet citizens. You cannot exist as a Nation if other Nations or Ideological groups can kill your citizens en mass at will.
Since you choose to not address the subject(s) of my discussion but instead attempt to use labeling me a ranting extreamist as a known method of not wishing to engage in a dialog. Here then is the crux to make it simple for you. Do you want Islam to conquer America? And if by chance they do it in your life time will you convert to Islam to save your life rather than fight to the death for the United States of America?
But Kurt if you are not an American citizen I apologise but ask the same question if it is your home land Islam conquers,,,,, unless you are already a Muslim yourself.
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Originally posted by bustr
I live in Oakland CA. A short distance from San Francisco. In this scenario I suspect I will be dead and you will be on this BBS quietly thanking some entity that you were not here with me while bleeding your condolances to this chior.....
What does that have to do with your bogus statement about baiting?
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Originally posted by deSelys
Reading this again, I really don't understand why you right-wingers made such a fuss about 9-11: The WTC was in NYC, a blue city.
Why acting like you were hurt when you were in fact rejoicing about those 3000+ dead metrosexuals and voting women?
I don't think its the death of people that concerns some, but the deth of people with ideals that they have a compulsion to force onto others. Up until now this is something that I feel is un-American along with some of the other types of 'issues' they are trying to address.
The best analogy I can use to describe it is those damn annoying truth.org ads that come onto the television, which publicly dramatize the effects of using tobacco products. To me it is like they are redundantly banging their craniums against a wall (or mine in this case) convinced that the average american is too stupid to know that cigarettes will kill you if you use them long enough. And because of this fact it is their right to crusade the ideals of their cause, to be the figurative 'catcher in the rye' for all of the Americans who use smokes or who are potentially going to use them.
To make this example relevant to my point, it is the same with groups that stem from a large subversive population and attept to through propoganda such as Truth.org that they force this crap into the faces of an American like myself, which is, to me, rude and disrespectful. This is why I despise groups or organizations who feel they have to "get the word out", because frankly, I could care less about someone who is such a bleeding heart hypchondriac.
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Originally posted by bustr
Kurt,
Do you want Islam to conquer America? And if by chance they do it in your life time will you convert to Islam to save your life rather than fight to the death for the United States of America?
9-11 Happened... True. Has nothing to do with me mentioning that 100mg of Uranium doesn't make a bomb... You keep missing that, that was the crux... You decided to go on an unrelated tirade and you are still trying to draw me into it.
You'll feel better if America 'conquer's' Islam I assume?
9-11 happened.
August 6 1945 Happened
The Holocaust happened.
The Boston Massacre happened
In your version, 9-11 is the only bad thing that ever happened on Earth.
Yes, it turns out you can kill the citizens of another country and still have that country survive.
Islam is not a threat. A small group of extremists are not representative of Islam. Bin Laden and his band of Idiots are not Islam, And the Iraqi insurgency are not islam.
What you are saying is exactly the same thing that the terrorists are saying except that you have flipped the religions around.. They stir their people into a frenzy with the exact logic you are using... "Would you have Christianity come and take over our countries? Would you have the 'crusaders' telling you how to live? Would you convert to Christianity or Judism to save your live when they come?"
You see, you are no better than they are. You are trying to stir up the uneducated masses with a bunch of screaming and yelling.
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Funny...
One Russian on the another side of the globe tried to sell some good stuff to Georgians. Ok, just a business, nothing personal. A little bit strange decision, Georgia is very poor country without necessary equipment to even use this material properly, but may be he had reasons.
Yes, it is criminal business but a lot of people around the world are involved in criminal activity. And in the US too - drug dealers, war barons, etc.
So, why are you so concerned? Almost all posts here are about how they will blow nuke bomb on US soil. Why do you think that that stuff will be used against the USA?
You become paranoiacs. Anything and everything what happens in the world scares you. What a happy nation! :)
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Tell me Vad, is your opinion representative of your entire nation? I am going to go out on a limb and guess it does not.
Much like the handful of people who participate on this board. If you think the people on this board reflect how our nation feels as a whole, well, they don't.
So, try to think about that next time, before attempting to stereotype us all.
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Skuzzy, of course my opinion is only my opinion. I don't pretend to talk on behalf of all Russians.
I am forming my opinion relying on the available information. I have reasons to believe that selection of the people on this board is unbiased. In other words, they are chosen randomly among the population. If almost all of them express the same opinion I can consider this opinion as widespread. It is how polls work.
And, btw, let ask any American this simle question: "Do you think that black market of nuclear materials is direct threat to US security?" I really do believe that 99% of Americans will answer "Yes". If you don't think so I am more American than you.
And finally. You have nothing against stereotypes about Russia and Russians who "suck" according to Caligula. Why do you so sensitive about stereotyping Americans?
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Well, Grapevine probably isnt a good target for terrorists
aint i right?:aok
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this is whhy we need B-29 with n0ok, for a deterrent:mad::mad::mad::aok:aok:aok:noid:noid:O
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Originally posted by Vad
Skuzzy, of course my opinion is only my opinion. I don't pretend to talk on behalf of all Russians.
I am forming my opinion relying on the available information. I have reasons to believe that selection of the people on this board is unbiased. In other words, they are chosen randomly among the population. If almost all of them express the same opinion I can consider this opinion as widespread. It is how polls work.
I do not see this particular cross section of people on this board as anywhere near balanced. And if polls are run this way, then it is no wonder they are incorrect.
And, btw, let ask any American this simle question: "Do you think that black market of nuclear materials is direct threat to US security?" I really do believe that 99% of Americans will answer "Yes". If you don't think so I am more American than you.
Whether it is or is not, it will not change the way I choose to live my life. After all, there is not a damn thing I can do, if some nutjob decides to light off a nuke in my backyard.
And finally. You have nothing against stereotypes about Russia and Russians who "suck" according to Caligula. Why do you so sensitive about stereotyping Americans?
I was making a simple statement. I am not sensitive about anything. And if you would point out the post where Calig makes reference to all Russians sucking, then I will be happy to take care of the matter.
EDIT: I found the post you referred to. Taken care of. You assume I read every post? No way is that going to happen.
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Hmm.... russians "often" tries to sneak radioactive stuff over our border. They are found and stopped _easily_. We inform the russians but we dont make a big deal out of it inernationally. It is however beeing taken very seriously here _and_ in russia but they have issues that are not as black and white or easy to deal with as they should be. There is a very close cooperation between the secret services of both countries to deal with this and the russians are by no means draggin their feet but as i said.. things are not black and white and the russian leadership and officials are not in as much control as we are used to here in the west.
It is a cat an mouse game with billions of $ involved on both sides of the good/bad fence. Cold war over? yes, but a much more dangerous war is waged behind the scenes.
So the next time some ehm "smart guy" sais "with us or against us" in the fight against terror then take a minute and reflect on what may be done without the media in the US getting involved because you have no clue about what sertain nations does witout the high profile causes.
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Originally posted by Kurt
Islam is not a threat. A small group of extremists are not representative of Islam. Bin Laden and his band of Idiots are not Islam, And the Iraqi insurgency are not islam.
Kurt,
I hope you are right.
History says you are wrong. But then who is Islam. Are you? I know I am not and don't care. They killed 3000 of my countrymen in one day. Until "they" stop killing non-muslims, especially American citizens I want Islam turned into a pasture land for North American buffalo to graze on. At that point it will be 100% certain no American citizens will be murdered by Muslims for the politicized ideological reasons that spawned 9/11. It worked wonderfully against Japan treating all japanese as the enemy untill we defeated them and they unconditionally surrendered. The U.S. has not been attacked by them since.
The smuggling of 100g may not be a big thing in wheapons terms. It's a big thing in the validation of human nature, persiverance and human success against long odds. If someone wants to aquire the components, there are humans who will try to make them available. I notice so far all the suicide bombers were Muslim. Muslims belong to Islam.
Because we addressed the japanese with this logic we ended the war against them with 100% victory in less time then the United States has been tolerating Muslims killing U.S. citizens world wide since terroism as a tool of political aggression(assimetrical war) by muslim political groups from the middel east began.
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They killed 3000 of my countrymen in one day. Until "they" stop killing non-muslims, especially American citizens I want Islam turned into a pasture land for North American buffalo to graze on.
You know what the terrorists think? They think Christians have killed tens of thousands of Muslims, by arming Israel, by arming dictators in the Middle East and looking the other way when their client states butcher their populations. And they want us turned into pasture land for what we've done to them.
Thankfully, it's a minority view on both sides.
I notice so far all the suicide bombers were Muslim. Muslims belong to Islam.
That's not even close to being true. The group with the largest number of suicide bombings to it's name is the Tamil Tigers. They have managed to kill the heads of state of 2 countries, the only terrorist group ever to have managed such a feat. And they are exclusively Hindu.
Because we addressed the japanese with this logic we ended the war against them with 100% victory in less time then the United States has been tolerating Muslims killing U.S. citizens world wide since terroism as a tool of political aggression(assimetrical war) by muslim political groups from the middel east began.
The problem is you were at war with the Japanese. Most of the Muslim terrorism originates from countries that are client states of the US. Think about that for a moment. It's the countries who's governments largely do your bidding that provide most of the terrorists.
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Originally posted by bustr
Kurt,
I hope you are right.
History says you are wrong. But then who is Islam. Are you? I know I am not and don't care. They killed 3000 of my countrymen in one day. Until "they" stop killing non-muslims, especially American citizens I want Islam turned into a pasture land for North American buffalo to graze on. At that point it will be 100% certain no American citizens will be murdered by Muslims for the politicized ideological reasons that spawned 9/11. It worked wonderfully against Japan treating all japanese as the enemy untill we defeated them and they unconditionally surrendered. The U.S. has not been attacked by them since.
The smuggling of 100g may not be a big thing in wheapons terms. It's a big thing in the validation of human nature, persiverance and human success against long odds. If someone wants to aquire the components, there are humans who will try to make them available. I notice so far all the suicide bombers were Muslim. Muslims belong to Islam.
Because we addressed the japanese with this logic we ended the war against them with 100% victory in less time then the United States has been tolerating Muslims killing U.S. citizens world wide since terroism as a tool of political aggression(assimetrical war) by muslim political groups from the middel east began.
Ok, I see... Its not so much that you're an extremist, the problem is that you're more of a racist.
People from all cultures have killed Americans.
We snuffed out what? 30,000 Iraqis in 2006? Probably about the same number in the previous 4 years, so 5 x 30,000 = 150,000 Dead... How many till you feel the blood price is paid? You keep coming back to 3000 dead on 9-11... What do you think the average joe on the street in Baghdad sees when the U.S. lights up 10 times 3000 every year?
Do you think that is engendering love and brotherhood in the Muslim countries? Do you think that the little 9 year old over there who is going to be carrying a gun in a few years is not going to come looking for YOU because of all this?
The U.S. will ALWAYS be hated by some country somewhere in the world. Get over it. The U.S. kills people too. The only difference between the good guys and the bad guys is which hunk of dirt you're standing on when the war starts.
This war causes more hurt every day than it will ever prevent in the future. Its a catastrophe. Just because the hurt is somewhere else, you're happy with it. Your vision is narrow, and your mind is hateful - You are just like them, except you pray to a cross, or perhaps a star of david. Beyond which book you thump, you are no different than them. You're evil and hateful and racist.
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Nash,
I am aware of the client state and ideological issues having been a child growing up with parents who retired from the NSA. I lived in Peshawar Pakistan 1961-64 while one of my parents translated Soviet military radio chatter supporting U2 missions over Russia.
Everything changes, U.S. citizens have been murderd by the thousands in NY city. It's time to treat Islam like we treated Japan. When U.S. citizens are safe again, the U.S. can help the remaining Muslim populations living in the American made buffalo pastures rebuild.
Japan eventually made out like a bandit as a economic super power from U.S. post war help. We are trying to do the same for Iraq and Afganistan while getting shot in the back and IED'd for our efforts. The only mistake was in not using the war with Japan approach first, then rebuild their countries.
Once you cease to respond to the mass murder of your citizens any time any place as an act of war with total and massive retaliation you are paving the road to the end of your Nation for all of your current and future enemies.
Kurt,
I'm worse and many more times evil than a racist, bible thumper or Jew. I'm an Amercian(ist). I beleive any ideological, religious, political groups or country that murders American citizens should be addressed in a massive and 100% decisive response. Then when it's over we help the survivors rebuild with massive amounts of taxpayer dollars. While that is taking place the survivors can decide if it's worth killing american citizens because they don't like the United States. Ever noticed China does not have Muslims killing Chinese citizens very often?
Racist my pathooty...I'm an equal oportunity hater of anyone or group that murders U.S. citizens anywhere anytime.
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Originally posted by bustr
Ever noticed China does not have Muslims killing Chinese citizens very often?
Thats because China is Isolationist, and if we were smart, we would be too. You don't see China poking there nose into every stupid little fight. Why do we?
Other than being Communist, and generally a little creepy, China has the right Idea... Stay home, keep other countries scared of you, and mind your own damn business.
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Originally posted by Kurt
Thats because China is Isolationist, and if we were smart, we would be too. You don't see China poking there nose into every stupid little fight. Why do we?
Other than being Communist, and generally a little creepy, China has the right Idea... Stay home, keep other countries scared of you, and mind your own damn business.
Kurt,
I cannot argue with you here.......:aok
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Originally posted by Kurt
Thats because China is Isolationist, and if we were smart, we would be too. You don't see China poking there nose into every stupid little fight. Why do we?
Other than being Communist, and generally a little creepy, China has the right Idea... Stay home, keep other countries scared of you, and mind your own damn business.
you mean like Tibet? or the Korean war? or maybe hong kong or even Taiwan. or supplying weapons to north vietnam? oh i know, it's those islands they grabbed for the oil.
yes , they certainly mind their own damn business. :lol
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Originally posted by john9001
you mean like Tibet? or the Korean war? or maybe hong kong or even Taiwan. or supplying weapons to north vietnam? oh i know, it's those islands they grabbed for the oil.
yes , they certainly mind their own damn business. :lol
atleast they aint like the U.S. with it's nose up amose every other countrys arse:rolleyes:
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It is a shame that the potential death of more New Yorkers is looked upon with anticipation as some type of boon for future election results.
I do believe there is a powerful argument to be made for fully prosecuting a global war on terror, it is a shame that many "conservatives" are unable to articulate it. A loss of NY would be a loss for the Union. A loss of a huge chunk of the nation's tax base, industrial capability, and financial machinery all of which serve to keep the US globally competitive and financially stable. In fact the loss of a top 5 city would affect the US treasury's ability to to continue to fund our war effort as "cheaply" as it does now. In every war the purse strings are critical, unfortunately a lot of citizens today assume US hegemony and that we will never face financial limitations to fund our campaigns.
I would make the argument that wishing for any kind of attack to occur on US soil, regardless of an anticipated future payoff, is about the most un-patriotic sentiment a citizen can have.
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Originally posted by Nashwan
...They have managed to kill the heads of state of 2 countries, the only terrorist group ever to have managed such a feat....
anarchists & nizaris
you owe me a thousand dollars
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Originally posted by bustr
...Ever noticed China does not have Muslims killing Chinese citizens very often...
just cause you didn't hear about it, doesn't mean the ETIM aint hard at work (except the 40 of em at GITMO).
you owe me a thousand dollars
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Originally posted by VOR
The commies are selling fissionable materials on the black market? Good grief, nobody saw this one coming.
I see that the ideas of capitalism and greed are blossoming nicely in Comrade Lenin's workers' paradise.
They haven't been communist for 15 years. While they were communist this problem didn't exist...
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Originally posted by john9001
you mean like Tibet? or the Korean war? or maybe hong kong or even Taiwan. or supplying weapons to north vietnam? oh i know, it's those islands they grabbed for the oil.
yes , they certainly mind their own damn business. :lol
John, have you ever made an actual point? (I mean in your whole freakin life - not just on this board)
Tibet, Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan?
Taiwan, A province of China... If New York declared independance from the United States, do you think Washington would be as forgiving with them as China has been with Taiwan? (answer yes if you are stupid).
Ok, Tibet, a border country... Very different from flying half-way around the world looking for a fight.
Korea - A border country ( and puppet government )... Very different from flying half-way around the world for a fight.
Hong Kong - This is China's rightful land... They leased it to the UK, and took it back at the end of the lease... A lease they honored in full... What is your complaint here? I don't see you getting smoked up about Panama taking the Canal back from the U.S. when that lease expired.
North Vietnam..., a border country... Very different from flying half-way around the world looking for a fight.
Stop smoking your Cheerios and learn a little geography.
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Originally posted by bustr
I'm worse and many more times evil than a racist, bible thumper or Jew.
Yes, you are... I couldn't have said it better if I had a month to think about it.
Thanks.
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hornet... we would get over the financial and other setbacks in a short while.. the financial and other setbacks wreaked on us by blue voters never end. they tend to accumulate interest forever until they crush us under their weight.
just one blue state new program... some new socialized whatever... is enough to offset, in a few short years, whatever damage to the economy vaporizing new york city would do.
So far as the country goes... it would be a net gain. the human misery is quite another thing.
I was just doing the math and looking at how it would affect my life... In that case, it would be a plus.
lazs
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Originally posted by Hornet
It is a shame that the potential death of more New Yorkers is looked upon with anticipation as some type of boon for future election results.
I do believe there is a powerful argument to be made for fully prosecuting a global war on terror, it is a shame that many "conservatives" are unable to articulate it. A loss of NY would be a loss for the Union. A loss of a huge chunk of the nation's tax base, industrial capability, and financial machinery all of which serve to keep the US globally competitive and financially stable. In fact the loss of a top 5 city would affect the US treasury's ability to to continue to fund our war effort as "cheaply" as it does now. In every war the purse strings are critical, unfortunately a lot of citizens today assume US hegemony and that we will never face financial limitations to fund our campaigns.
I would make the argument that wishing for any kind of attack to occur on US soil, regardless of an anticipated future payoff, is about the most un-patriotic sentiment a citizen can have.
I agree wholeheartedly. However, there are things we can do to prevent an attack that would have more dire consequences than an attack itself. Pearl Harbor is a good example. Where would we and the rest of the world be today if Amercia had not suffered that attack or one like it 'til perhaps 5 or 6 years later?
How about a mutant attack on San Francisco? Is it too un-patriotic for me to wish them all turned into spineless jelly to match their character? ;)
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Hmmm. The mostly funny thing is.... That this guy was catched a year ago. In April 2006. And already was sentenced to 8 years of prison.
If to draw away from the problems of the uranium security, wich are really big in the Georgia, we can see, that all official messages about catching "enemies of Gergia" belongs to "past tense". Really, there wasn't any effective security operations scince Saakashvili's coup.
In first, this is because as any dutiful "Democracy neophyte", Saakashvili destroyed the country's securiry service. So, now, all of the operations are based on old materials. Wich were found and investigated in old, Shevardnadze times.
In second. It wasn't uranium. It was radioactive capsule from special generator, that were in use in the hill regions to keep emergency power in communication systems.
Do you see the difference between "old capsule" and "A HUNDRED GRAMMS OF URANIUM FOUND!!!"?
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
EDIT: I found the post you referred to. Taken care of. You assume I read every post? No way is that going to happen.
I bet he reads some peoples posts more than others........
I doubt many of my posts get by without being reviewed by staff.:aok
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I dunt know who you are or why you think I would treat you special, but I dunt. Posts are posts.
But if it comes to the point where we have to babysit somone, then they just get banned.
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Originally posted by Pei
They haven't been communist for 15 years. While they were communist this problem didn't exist...
In a roundabout way, you've reiterated my observation.
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Sounds like a good policy. btw- only took 7 minutes for a response, coincidence im sure:)
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Well, I do keep a score sheet of sorts. If someone has to be continously edited, then they can find themselves being banned as well.
Why are you being paranoid?
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I'm not paranoid, for the most part I simply call things as I see them without regard to who will or wont agree. With this approach, my view is not always flattering to the powers that be, and therefore I assume a watchful eye is cast my way. If I am mistaken, fine and if i'm not mistaken, thats fine too:D
hehe
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We do not care what anyone's opinion is. It is all about how that opinion is expressed.
This is our house and all we ask is for those who are guests here to act accordingly. If you chose to ignore that and act in defiance of our wishes, then you will probably not be around here very long.
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Originally posted by VOR
In a roundabout way, you've reiterated my observation.
:lol
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meh-
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
We do not care what anyone's opinion is. It is all about how that opinion is expressed.
We are Borg - Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
Sorry I had to edit your quote Skuzzy... But the 'we' went all borg-y in my mind.
Can you send 7-of-9 over?
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Originally posted by Vad
What a happy nation! :)
It is nice to be here.
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Originally posted by Kurt
Thats because China is Isolationist, and if we were smart, we would be too. You don't see China poking there nose into every stupid little fight. Why do we?
Other than being Communist, and generally a little creepy, China has the right Idea... Stay home, keep other countries scared of you, and mind your own damn business.
You must be one of those "new historians" who doesn't believe history repeats or that lessons for today can be drawn from the past...
I disagree with that whole premise, and, from the point of view of an "old historian" where history does repeat, etc., what you just said up there is one of the most... how do I say this without getting this edited...?
Well, it's one of the dumber things I've heard in awhile, no offense.
Isolationism... Well, glad my tax dollars go to educating people as you were... :rolleyes: