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Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: TW9 on January 27, 2007, 11:36:16 PM
Please these caps are retarded.. trying to fly with squaddies in a capped arena and its annoying..
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: Meatwad on January 27, 2007, 11:38:45 PM
Me like :)
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: NoBaddy on January 27, 2007, 11:52:28 PM
The only vote that counts is HT.....you lose. :)
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: B@tfinkV on January 28, 2007, 12:44:17 AM
i vote yes also.


although when i thought about it for a while, the obvious answer popped into my head...


they found a 'more cost effective' way to host the game, but in doing so they couldnt host 600+ in one arena.

cheaper server cost = worse stability for high numbers = switch to split arenas.

if we really think about it, we will see that HTC doesnt care for ever going back on this, not only that but maybe they cannot host a server with such high numbers anymore.

hope its earning some good money for them if this is true, in all honesty i would prefer them to earn more money and spend more time on improving the game than switch back to the old server.


the new system is crappy at times, but if HTC went bust it would be alot worse.

of course, this could just be incorrect speculation, but it makes sense as a reason why they will never give us the old system no matter how much we whine.
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: Mr No Name on January 28, 2007, 12:53:41 AM
It's a moot point because HT is the only real vote on this, but I would rejoin if this happened.  I voted with my wallet and left a few months ago primarily because of this issue.
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: tedrbr on January 28, 2007, 01:14:29 AM
I like how many times, EW and MW will have higher caps than the two LW's.

Maybe two to three dozen pilots in EW and MW, and hundreds in the LW's.


Customer-base has spoken..... a large percentage want the late war "uber" rides, and the rest follow the pack looking for the numbers to make for a good fight (or vulch, or horde, or cherry picking opportunities, or channel 200 griefing.... ).
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: tikky on January 28, 2007, 03:03:35 AM
I feel the pain (http://youtube.com/watch?v=kBVmfIUR1DA&mode=related&search=) for those who are waiting to get in those LW arenas
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: rogerdee on January 28, 2007, 03:31:22 AM
is been said enough times there wont be 1 arean again  so like it or lump it.

maybe combining the early and mid togeather would be good start of with early planes then through the month add the late planes?
  we got to face it guys 1 ig arena with big maps is long gone
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: TW9 on January 28, 2007, 04:26:05 AM
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV


hope its earning some good money for them if this is true, in all honesty i would prefer them to earn more money and spend more time on improving the game than switch back to the old server.


 


to me improving the game has less to do with graphics and more to do with gameplay and PvP.. game was alot better when there was 500+ in an arena imo..
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: TW9 on January 28, 2007, 04:29:43 AM
i dont see the issue with u ew and mw guys i mean all i saw when i flew in there were people flying the fastest rides for that era.. so whats the difference between that and flying a lala or p51 in LW?.. Theres really no difference.
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: rogerdee on January 28, 2007, 06:06:20 AM
the difference is the most people i get tosee in early or mid is 30 and they are mostley on the same side milk running and taking empty bases
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: Mustaine on January 28, 2007, 08:33:04 AM
With HiTech's post in the other thread about numbers online and they regularly having over 850 or something... and then with the ammount of new players coming into the game, I would not be suprised at all to see the LW arenas both having a max of 500+ in the near future.




the part that stinks sometimes is during the US "Daytime" where the caps are in the 150-200 range and you want to fly where your squaddies are.
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: 1Boner on January 28, 2007, 08:38:44 AM
vote?????

since when did this game become a democracy??????





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i like one big arena too

but i felt so unhealthy!!!!!
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: The Fugitive on January 28, 2007, 08:40:03 AM
It was never a server issue Bat. It has alway been a social issue. As the arena population increased the  community suffered, causeing to much of a rift between countries and such. HTC wants the smaller arenas to bring the comunity back to how it was before. As the numbers increase again, don't be surprised to see the caps either lock at 350-400 in the LW arenas forcing more to go to MW and EW ( my prefferance), or another LW arena appearing down the road.
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: killnu on January 28, 2007, 08:46:28 AM
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forcing more to go to MW and EW


or just quit...there is no being "forced" to do anything in this game that is paid for on a monthly basis.

just playing devils advocate.
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: Helm on January 28, 2007, 08:54:53 AM
What is the freaking obsession w/ Late war??......have some 'stones' and visit MW or EW ....grow up people!!...gee whiz
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: Max on January 28, 2007, 09:00:37 AM
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Originally posted by Helm
What is the freaking obsession w/ Late war??



werd - HORDE
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: croduh on January 28, 2007, 09:13:15 AM
I thought people wanted this
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: 1Boner on January 28, 2007, 09:17:30 AM
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Originally posted by duh
I thought people wanted this


yeah!!   one "people" wanted this


HT
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: The Fugitive on January 28, 2007, 09:34:17 AM
I'd prefer to fly in either MW or EW, but there is ALMOST never any fights going on when I log in. Im tired of fighting HOin Las and spit 16s all the time, but going against them is better than trying to chase down some milk runner who bails once his bombs are dropped or I get too close :(
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: B@tfinkV on January 28, 2007, 10:36:50 AM
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
It was never a server issue Bat. It has alway been a social issue. As the arena population increased the  community suffered, causeing to much of a rift between countries and such. HTC wants the smaller arenas to bring the comunity back to how it was before. As the numbers increase again, don't be surprised to see the caps either lock at 350-400 in the LW arenas forcing more to go to MW and EW ( my prefferance), or another LW arena appearing down the road.



cc that sir, thank you.
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: TW9 on January 28, 2007, 11:38:47 AM
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Originally posted by Mustaine
With HiTech's post in the other thread about numbers online and they regularly having over 850 or something... and then with the ammount of new players coming into the game, I would not be suprised at all to see the LW arenas both having a max of 500+ in the near future.




the part that stinks sometimes is during the US "Daytime" where the caps are in the 150-200 range and you want to fly where your squaddies are.


i would agree but the number of players hasnt risen much since ah1 ended adn the beginnin of ah2.. thought it did drop and has since got up to where it is now.. so maybe ur right :aok .. its just a matter of how long till we see that.
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: Mustaine on January 28, 2007, 11:52:11 AM
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Originally posted by TW9
so maybe ur right :aok ..
I hope so, that's what keeps me going ;) :aok :lol
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: Husky01 on January 28, 2007, 11:53:45 AM
Mustine off topic but when do you usually get on? for the ladder fights?
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: Mustaine on January 28, 2007, 11:57:53 AM
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Originally posted by Husky01
Mustine off topic but when do you usually get on? for the ladder fights?
I am on all sorts of weird times...

honestly there is no rhyme or reason, as being unemployed I got alot of free time :(


I'm popping in there right now actually
Title: Squad Arena
Post by: fjaloma on January 28, 2007, 12:01:27 PM
First, I'm not in a squad, but am a 3 year AH veteran and feel your pain.  Here's what us Silicon Valley types came up with.  Forward this to AH if you like.

It's not that difficult to code. I used to fly Falcon 3.0 at my old office on the company network. We had some of the delvelopers write code that only allowed you on as a "single" for 15 minutes. We had formed squads based on department, Sales, marketing, development, IT etc. A couple guys would try to crash our dogfights/missions. So development changed our login procedures and set up ID that required a Squad ID. Anyone could log on, but if your ID was not associated to an existing Squad, your session would time out after 15 minutes.  

So as long as you and your across the country squad mate log on within the allotted time period, you're safe. Otherwise you have to wait for one of your buddies to show up. If they're on already when you log in, then you're golden.  

If they choose to, AH can set up a Squad only arena that requires a minimum of 2 squadmates to be on at the same time.  (Numbers on this server would be half of the current numbers in MA.)  As the squad leaves and you're the last on one in your squad, you'll be timed out in 15 min and you go back to MA if you want.  The fix to this is to set up a "Misc" squad for all the "singles" that are left.  If your squad bails for the day but want to stay on, you log into the Misc. Squad for the remainder of your play time. There has to be 2 players in the Misc Squad and same time out rules apply.   Pretty simple.

It worked for us in the Silicon Valley.
Title: Re: Squad Arena
Post by: Max on January 28, 2007, 12:09:15 PM
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Originally posted by fjaloma
First, I'm not in a squad,


What's the end game?

I fail to see the benefit.
Title: What's the End Game?
Post by: fjaloma on January 28, 2007, 12:48:17 PM
If I follow your question correctly the end game is providing an arena for those to fly in squads only. A lot of guys like flying "together". Although, I see entire squads in nothing but furballs that go on for days. You might as well be an independent at that point. But if their's a faction of flyers that would like a group arena where they can fly in organized scenarios then it can be done.

I'm not a squad flyer. My focus seldom follows the same path as most squads. My tactics are different and I prefer to fly interdiction runs behind the scenes and hit tactical targets while the battle at the front is ploding along.

The over all impact to the current MA's is minimal. Most squads had a single squad night. They then prefer to fly solo the rest of the week and do what they want. I say give them a quad arena on a trial beta bases and try it out. It think it's all "do-able".  

Pardon the rambling.

Discobud
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: 4deck on January 29, 2007, 01:54:30 PM
Cap at 1000

HUGE MAPS[/size][/color]:aok
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: Kuhn on January 29, 2007, 01:56:50 PM
Don't care either way.  :D
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: FrodeMk3 on January 29, 2007, 02:00:30 PM
HTC mentioned in the Unhealthy environment thread that we are now approaching 950+ online. I'm just guessing here...But maybe we will soon see the need for more than 1 MA. That's getting to be alotta people.
Title: Re: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: SlapShot on January 29, 2007, 02:40:26 PM
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Originally posted by TW9
Please these caps are retarded.. trying to fly with squaddies in a capped arena and its annoying..


Hitech said in another thread that they had over 950 people on (I think last night - prime time) between all the arenas.

Because the EW and MW typically, as of late, have a total of around 100 or so people between them ... add that to 1 LW arena of 750 people, you would have had 100 people FORCED to fly in EW and MW or log off.

From what I have been reading, as of late, there would have been 100 really pissed off people under your proposal.

Now, take into account the "Slum factor" ... we had 750 person arenas and HT felt that they were over-saturated and resulted in an unhealthy environment.

With that, I don't think that we will ever see 750 person arenas again ... I think that we could see 500 person arenas as Mustaine pointed out ... and if needed, HT would create another LW arena before he will raise arena caps that will initiate a "Slum".
Title: VOTE for 1 750 cap LW arena
Post by: 0verlag on January 29, 2007, 02:50:40 PM
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Originally posted by Helm
What is the freaking obsession w/ Late war??


because its what Aces High as been ever since the game started.....and people want it to stay that way.