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Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: Major Biggles on January 30, 2007, 10:57:01 AM
I thought the 38 jocks might enjoy this one :)

i'm fairly proud of it. it's not perfect and i'm having some issues still, but i think i'm getting much better at extracting and lighting :)

enjoy:


(http://www.thesproge.com/uploads/ForkTailedDevil.jpg)
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: oboe on January 30, 2007, 11:12:21 AM
You are right to be proud of that.   Beautiful work!
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: DblTrubl on January 30, 2007, 11:16:33 AM
SCHWING!!!
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: Fencer51 on January 30, 2007, 11:24:29 AM
No Merlin engine and a lack of red paint on the nose.. not impressed. ;)
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: SlapShot on January 30, 2007, 11:43:36 AM
Looks great Biggles ... but I think the plane is just a little too "soft" if you know what I mean ... if it was just a little crisper that would look good.
Title: The detail is all wrong....
Post by: humble on January 30, 2007, 12:07:10 PM
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
I thought the 38 jocks might enjoy this one :)

i'm fairly proud of it. it's not perfect and i'm having some issues still, but i think i'm getting much better at extracting and lighting :)

enjoy:


(http://www.thesproge.com/uploads/ForkTailedDevil.jpg)


It has way too many parts. Ask guppy to send you a picture or two.......
Title: Re: The detail is all wrong....
Post by: Major Biggles on January 30, 2007, 12:26:57 PM
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Originally posted by humble
It has way too many parts. Ask guppy to send you a picture or two.......



:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on January 30, 2007, 12:43:42 PM
It has two running engines and isn't trailing at least one color of smoke, can't be out of Guppy's stable. Not one of mine, either.
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: SKJohn on January 30, 2007, 12:49:39 PM
Are those hit sprites on the canopy?:)
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: Guppy35 on January 30, 2007, 01:00:18 PM
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
It has two running engines and isn't trailing at least one color of smoke, can't be out of Guppy's stable. Not one of mine, either.


Exactly :)

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1170147645_smokinggs.jpg)
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: Guppy35 on January 30, 2007, 01:02:04 PM
And of course the correct landing approach.......:)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1168330084_snap3.jpg)
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: Major Biggles on January 30, 2007, 01:24:03 PM
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Originally posted by SKJohn
Are those hit sprites on the canopy?:)



no, it's the reflecton of the sun ;)
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: The Fugitive on January 30, 2007, 06:57:42 PM
Looks great on my desktop  :aok
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: The Fury on January 31, 2007, 08:53:44 AM
yeah it does look great on desktop lol!!

:aok
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: UdieNow on January 31, 2007, 09:09:26 AM
Damn Biggles.....you do some mighty fine work sir

Corsairs at Dawn, Home for Tea, the 51, and now the Forked Tailed Devil.

almost enough for a different Destop for each day of the week:aok

Keep up the amazing work


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Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: mussie on January 31, 2007, 09:20:37 AM
PFWAGHHHHHHHHHH

Thats just ****ing AWSOME.....

Gonna have to print it

Title: Too Soft!
Post by: fjaloma on January 31, 2007, 09:50:46 AM
It's not too soft.... he'd flying through clouds!

"too soft".... that's funny!

Nice work on that illustration. Wish I had that kind of talent.
Title: Re: Too Soft!
Post by: SlapShot on January 31, 2007, 09:54:51 AM
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Originally posted by fjaloma
It's not too soft.... he'd flying through clouds!

"too soft".... that's funny!

Nice work on that illustration. Wish I had that kind of talent.


You obviously know nothing about photo editing.
Title: PHoto Editor
Post by: fjaloma on January 31, 2007, 10:07:17 AM
No I don't. Are you a professional photo editor?  If so I might respect your opinion, if not then you're just another guy with an opinion.  Just like me.:D
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: SlapShot on January 31, 2007, 10:45:18 AM
No I don't make a living at it, I am a software engineer, but I have been using professional photo editing software for years.

It's not an opinion ... "soft" or "soften" is a term used within editing pictures ... as opposed to "crisp". These techiques are usually applied with a "filter".
Title: Re: PHoto Editor
Post by: NoBaddy on January 31, 2007, 11:53:42 AM
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Originally posted by fjaloma
No I don't. Are you a professional photo editor?  If so I might respect your opinion, if not then you're just another guy with an opinion.  Just like me.:D


I agree with Slap. The "soft" appearence gives the picture a "painting" look. Nothing wrong with that. BTW, I am a trained graphic artist.....does that count? :)
Title: Re: Re: PHoto Editor
Post by: SlapShot on January 31, 2007, 11:57:13 AM
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
I agree with Slap. The "soft" appearence gives the picture a "painting" look. Nothing wrong with that. BTW, I am a trained graphic artist.....does that count? :)


:aok NB

Biggles ... I wonder what the grey FM2 flying just above the waves would look like ... HINT.
Title: Re: Re: Re: PHoto Editor
Post by: Major Biggles on January 31, 2007, 12:15:23 PM
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Originally posted by SlapShot
:aok NB

Biggles ... I wonder what the grey FM2 flying just above the waves would look like ... HINT.




:D


btw slap, how do you mean it's too soft? i'm still learning how to do it, all of these have really just been practises/learning experiments. if you could give me any tips it would be great ;)

by soft, do you mean that the edges on the plane are too smooth, or that the lighting effects seem a bit too 'airbrushed' ?

if it's the latter, i didn't soften the image, but i did use dodge and burn to add lighting to the plane to make it look better on the background. that soft look is really what i'm aiming for, but if you know a better way, please share, i'd love any tips you can give me :)


i'll see about that FM2 ;)
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: SlapShot on January 31, 2007, 12:28:36 PM
by soft, do you mean that the edges on the plane are too smooth, or that the lighting effects seem a bit too 'airbrushed' ?

Bingo !!!

if it's the latter, i didn't soften the image, but i did use dodge and burn to add lighting to the plane to make it look better on the background. that soft look is really what i'm aiming for, but if you know a better way, please share, i'd love any tips you can give me

Dodge and Burn are ways to "soften" too.

Do you have the ability to vary the intensity of "dodge" and/or "burn" when applying them ?

Don't get me wrong ... the picture is beautiful ... I just think that the edges and some of the detail on the plane would look better if they were just a little "crisper". Before the age of digital picture and all these fancy editing tools, photographers use to actually apply vaseline to a clear filter to get the "soft" effect.

I use PhotoShop ($$$) or Gimp (Freeware) which provides all the "tools" (dodge/burn/etc) along with canned "filters". When applying a filter I am given the ability to set the amount of "softening" that I want to apply ... usually via a slider ... which then applies the filter in a "preview" mode so that you can see what it will look like before you really apply the effect.
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: Major Biggles on January 31, 2007, 02:16:46 PM
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Originally posted by SlapShot
by soft, do you mean that the edges on the plane are too smooth, or that the lighting effects seem a bit too 'airbrushed' ?

Bingo !!!

if it's the latter, i didn't soften the image, but i did use dodge and burn to add lighting to the plane to make it look better on the background. that soft look is really what i'm aiming for, but if you know a better way, please share, i'd love any tips you can give me

Dodge and Burn are ways to "soften" too.

Do you have the ability to vary the intensity of "dodge" and/or "burn" when applying them ?

Don't get me wrong ... the picture is beautiful ... I just think that the edges and some of the detail on the plane would look better if they were just a little "crisper". Before the age of digital picture and all these fancy editing tools, photographers use to actually apply vaseline to a clear filter to get the "soft" effect.

I use PhotoShop ($$$) or Gimp (Freeware) which provides all the "tools" (dodge/burn/etc) along with canned "filters". When applying a filter I am given the ability to set the amount of "softening" that I want to apply ... usually via a slider ... which then applies the filter in a "preview" mode so that you can see what it will look like before you really apply the effect.



i'm using photoshop.

that softish look is what i was trying to get, he's flying through the top of the clouds. it isn't so much a real pic, but a practise. i was learning how to use dodge/burn, pen tool and layer masks. the plane is soft because it has a layer of cloud on top of it which is half masked.

it was just a practise shot to learn to use the tools ;)

i'll see about doing you an FM2. which sounds better, on approach to land on CV, or combat shot with a zeke or two?
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: SlapShot on January 31, 2007, 02:20:48 PM
combat shot with a zeke or two :aok

Now I understand the reason for the "soft" effect ... didn't realize he was in a cloud.

Keep experimenting !!! Your results for just starting are really nice.
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: Major Biggles on January 31, 2007, 02:25:39 PM
yeah, take a look at the top wing, then at the bottom...

the top is much sharper because of the layer mask, bottom is much softer because he's flying through the top of a cloud :) i'll have to see about the FM2, i need an actor to fly a zeke infront of my FM2 for a decent shot :)
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: Hoarach on January 31, 2007, 03:46:20 PM
Very nice biggles. :aok

Do you think you could do a bare metal 38 by chance? ( "Putt Putt Maru") :D
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: whiteman on January 31, 2007, 03:52:06 PM
very nice! did you do the whole thing in photoshop?
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: Major Biggles on January 31, 2007, 04:44:19 PM
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Originally posted by whiteman
very nice! did you do the whole thing in photoshop?



no, the p38 is from the game, cut out and edited. then pasted it onto a background which i'd edited aswell :)
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: Major Biggles on January 31, 2007, 04:45:23 PM
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Originally posted by Hoarach
Very nice biggles. :aok

Do you think you could do a bare metal 38 by chance? ( "Putt Putt Maru") :D



i'm sure i could give it a go :) i've had millions of requests though, so if i do, it may be a while ;)
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: whiteman on January 31, 2007, 05:50:40 PM
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
no, the p38 is from the game, cut out and edited. then pasted it onto a background which i'd edited aswell :)


ah, i was gunna say thats some great illustrator work also. Looks very nice, i like soft cloudy look.
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: Hoarach on January 31, 2007, 08:04:22 PM
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
i'm sure i could give it a go :) i've had millions of requests though, so if i do, it may be a while ;)



Woo! No big hurry just going twindle fingers and wait patiently for it. :)
Title: Latest Work: Fork Tailed Devil
Post by: Raptor on February 06, 2007, 12:05:44 AM
I used this picture as well for my desktop, except I altered it and included other items of interest.
(http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/6044/desktoprk4.jpg)