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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: midnight Target on January 30, 2007, 11:51:33 AM
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May you have green fields and long runs forever. You are truely the glue that binds us all.
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Shame they euthanized him. He could have lived the life if he was only a touch more lucky.
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Never cared for horse racing or "steeplechase". Most often it's the horse that ends up paying the price. The human involved could just as easily get a motorcycle or an ATV and leave the horse out of it.
I was pulling for Barbaro the whole time, when it got quiet, I was hoping he was out of danger. Damned shame.
And yeah, MT, I get the joke. It might even have been funny, if it weren't at the expense of a beautiful and spirited animal.
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Ow, that "joke" hit me right between the eyes. Never would've caught it if Savage hadn't pointed it out.
For shame, MT. RIP, Barbaro.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
You are truely the glue that binds us all.
:confused: :rofl :rofl
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We should dedicate a base or a map to Barbaro.
When is the memorial flight?
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I understand that Alpo has just gotten a rich ingredient change.......
For those who are grieving........
For crying out loud, it was just a horse. Get over it!
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Originally posted by Maverick
I understand that Alpo has just gotten a rich ingredient change.......
For those who are grieving........
For crying out loud, it was just a horse. Get over it!
JUST a horse. A good horse is no different and no less a friend and companion than a good dog, and I think a lot more of many dogs than I do of a lot of people. And no, I'm not a tree hugger or a PETA member. But I do have a great deal of respect and admiration for a fine animal with a great spirit.
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that is definitely a bummer. still do not feel it to be national news. my friend's horse was put down two weeks ago, and it was a very fine canadian warm blood that sired quite a few jumpers I am told. nothing was mentioned of that. she is still very heart broken as I would expect.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
JUST a horse. A good horse is no different and no less a friend and companion than a good dog, and I think a lot more of many dogs than I do of a lot of people. And no, I'm not a tree hugger or a PETA member. But I do have a great deal of respect and admiration for a fine animal with a great spirit.
Sorry but that horse was not even a pet. It didn't have the familial impact like a family pet would to enrich a person's life. Instead it was an attempt to enrich financial investments of the owners. Secondarily those who gambled on it.
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Originally posted by Maverick
Sorry but that horse was not even a pet. It didn't have the familial impact like a family pet would to enrich a person's life. Instead it was an attempt to enrich financial investments of the owners. Secondarily those who gambled on it.
Ever own and train a horse? You practically live with the animal, and you develop a mutual trust and understanding, or you don't succeed.
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Word has it its last meal was grass ;)
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Never cared for horse racing or "steeplechase". Most often it's the horse that ends up paying the price.
Tell that to 'Superman'. Never heard of Barbaro, I'm a city slicker:cool:
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For crying out loud, it was just a horse. Get over it!
What we have here is a case of jealousy. Mave was jealous of the horse. And who wouldn't be?
Had the surgery been successful, the horse would have spent a year being paid LOTS of money to sire other horses and do whatever it wants to do.
Had the children been even remotely successful, Barbaro would have spent the REST of his years studding out for MILLIONS of dollars and spending the rest of his days eating and playing.
I'm jealous.
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Actually, the couple that owned the horse spent the money and time trying to save the horse knowing he probably would not heal well enough to actually even breed a mare. Those horses are bred to have very fine light bones, and once broken, they rarely heal well, regardless of age and care given. There was a chance he could be bred again, and there was also the chance that he'd at least be a donor for artificial insemination.
There's no doubt that a race horse is a "working" animal, in the same sense that a drug dog is a "working" animal. That does not mean that the trainers, handlers, and others do not develop a relationship with the animal, regardless of what kind of animal it is.
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That's what happens when you invest in sporting animals. The owners no doubt got their money's worth out of him electricly before they zonked him. That plus the insurance $$$.
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and there was also the chance that he'd at least be a donor for artificial insemination.
Actually, there wasn't. Thoroughbreds aren't allowed to be created via artificial insemination. It has to be done the old fashion way.
That's why so much time and money was spent trying to heal Barbaro. Unless he was able to stand on his own hind two legs, his offspring wouldn't have been thoroughbreds, wouldn't have been able to compete, and wouldn't have been worth 1/100 a real thoroughbred is.
It was all or nothing. And for a while it looked like he might have pulled through.
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Originally posted by Maverick
Sorry but that horse was not even a pet. It didn't have the familial impact like a family pet would to enrich a person's life. Instead it was an attempt to enrich financial investments of the owners. Secondarily those who gambled on it.
Know the owners do you? " hey look at me, Im a jerk":rolleyes:
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Proud of being a jerk are you huh. Strange.
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Originally posted by Maverick
Proud of being a jerk are you huh. Strange.
yeah, good one.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Actually, there wasn't. Thoroughbreds aren't allowed to be created via artificial insemination. It has to be done the old fashion way.
Since when? Seriously, I've never heard of this.:huh
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Think of all the good he could do now:
He could hold little Sally's cotton balls to the new santa portrait she made
He could be the thin film that Freddy smears across his hand before rolling it into a ball and eating it.
His life now has purpose.
(http://www.fatdrunkbastards.com/images/glue.jpg)
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Can hardly wait for the TV movie...
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^^ while eating horse steak.
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Originally posted by Saintaw
^^ while eating horse steak.
You unbelivable french savages..
:aok
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I like my horsemeat with garlic... so I suppose I could have snails or frog legs for starters :D
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or nutria
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we are talking about a horse right?
pretty much a one purpose bred animal version of a gladiator.
lazs
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Originally posted by storch
or nutria
???
(http://www.uniurb.it/giornalismo/lavori2002/fedeli/altri/immagini/nutria.jpg)
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Originally posted by Bodhi
that is definitely a bummer. still do not feel it to be national news. my friend's horse was put down two weeks ago, and it was a very fine canadian warm blood that sired quite a few jumpers I am told. nothing was mentioned of that.
Might have something to do with the fact your friend's horse never won the Kentucky Derby.
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Originally posted by rpm
Since when? Seriously, I've never heard of this.:huh
It's always been that way. You can't artificially create a thoroughbred horse to race.
I may be getting the "Thoroughbred" term wrong, but I mean the high quality horses that race.
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I seem to recall a dirty jobs episode that dealt with horses and artificial insemination. I thought they were talking about racing horses as the value of the collected semen was rather high. There was also a demo of artificial insemination during the show all under the supervision of the horse ranchers vetrinarian.
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PERK TEH ARTICEAL INSEMENATIONS!!!1
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Live cover
When breeding live cover, the mare is usually boarded at the stud. She is "teased" several times with a stallion that will not breed to her, usually with the stallion being presented to the mare over a barrier. Her reaction to the teaser, whether hostile or passive, is noted. A mare that is in heat will generally tolerate a teaser (although this is not always the case), and may present herself to him, holding her tail to the side. A veterinarian may also determine if the mare is ready to be bred, by ultrasound or palpating daily to determine if ovulation has occurred.
When it has been determined that the mare is ready, both the mare and intended stud will be cleaned. The mare will then be presented to the stallion, usually with one handler controlling the mare and one or more handlers in charge of the stallion. Multiple handlers are preferred, as the mare and stallion can be easily separated should there be any trouble.
The Thoroughbred industry requires all registered foals to be bred through live cover. Artificial fertility treatments, listed below, are not permitted
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_breeding
I was bored one night and saw a news story on barbaro. I thought the same things as you guys in that AI could be used. However, a rear leg injury was much more serious due to the nature of live breeding.
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Originally posted by Maverick
I seem to recall a dirty jobs episode that dealt with horses and artificial insemination. I thought they were talking about racing horses as the value of the collected semen was rather high. There was also a demo of artificial insemination during the show all under the supervision of the horse ranchers vetrinarian.
I think that was ******* 2 you are referring to....assuming someone drank some of it in the show you watched.:lol
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Actually the US Jockey Club does allow AI, but only if used in conjunction with live cover. That seems a little pointless, but that's how the rules are written.
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Originally posted by myelo
Actually the US Jockey Club does allow AI, but only if used in conjunction with live cover. That seems a little pointless, but that's how the rules are written.
And that makes sense, how?
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This is like Health Class...except its gone horribly awry.
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"Live cover" is a crap euphemism.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
And that makes sense, how?
Hint: It starts with "M" and ends with "Y"
Stud fees depend on supply and demand. By requiring live breeding you dramatically restrict demand compared to AI. They still allow AI using a portion of the ejaculate produced by the stallion during live breeding as an "aid to breeding" because that doesn't increase the number of mares a stallion can cover.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
"Live cover" is a crap euphemism.
"crap" is a crap euphemism
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If I had known about it ahead of time, I would have flown out to the service. (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/millions_of_americans_travel_to)