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Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: Yeager on January 30, 2007, 09:08:23 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.main/index.html

Is this the new Gulf of Tonkin?

If Iranian secret service pulled this off then I would encourage a full military retaliation against the Iranian military.

Perhaps the Iranians think the US is bogged down and divided, unwilling to stand and fight so they are like dogs nipping at the heels of a retreating falling giant....oh SNAP!
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 30, 2007, 09:13:14 PM
Light up the capital of Iran.  Ten MOAB's.  I would remember the name of the capital, but I'm a little drunk and don't think that it should matter.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: Toad on January 30, 2007, 09:13:24 PM
Relax; they'll never prove it, so we can ignore it.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: AWMac on January 30, 2007, 09:31:26 PM
Relax, this time next Month it really won't matter.

:D

Mac
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: storch on January 30, 2007, 09:33:28 PM
tehran pronounced theyran
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 30, 2007, 09:41:35 PM
Can you think of an interesting name for glass parking lot?



I was thinking C2.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: AWMac on January 30, 2007, 09:47:40 PM
SkateBoard City?

Mac
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: Gunslinger on January 30, 2007, 10:29:41 PM
Iran and Syria have been fueling the insurgancy in Iraq for 3 years.  If true this is no suprise
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 30, 2007, 10:38:39 PM
And something I've been claiming since the beginning.  


If I had been in control, I would have stationed troops at all of Iraq's borders and said that any non preplanned trip across the border into Iraq will be shot at without hesitation and with extreme prejudice.




But what do I know?  I only (correctly) said that it has been outside sources that have been fueling the insurgency for years.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: AWMac on January 30, 2007, 10:44:57 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
And something I've been claiming since the beginning.  


If I had been in control, I would have stationed troops at all of Iraq's borders and said that any non preplanned trip across the border into Iraq will be shot at without hesitation and with extreme prejudice.




But what do I know?  I only (correctly) said that it has been outside sources that have been fueling the insurgency for years.

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And the same with America's Borders North and South!!!

If yer lost and have an Entry Visa we'll direct you, forcefully to the nearest Entry Point...Otherwise yer capped.  Plan and Simple.

Don't like it? Then don't try and cross illegally into the USA.

Mac
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 30, 2007, 10:55:52 PM
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Originally posted by AWMac
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And the same with America's Borders North and South!!!

If yer lost and have an Entry Visa we'll direct you, forcefully to the nearest Entry Point...Otherwise yer capped.  Plan and Simple.

Don't like it? Then don't try and cross illegally into the USA.

Mac


Ahhhh

I am not alone :)
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: VooWho on January 30, 2007, 10:55:58 PM
Nothing wrong with Immegration, does do it Legally. I say hire a bunch of chinese workers and build the Great Wall of America.

What we should do to solve this problem is to invade Mexico, conquer it and make it into the 51st state. Then everyone will be happy. No more border problem, and now the Mexicans are true American citizens.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: Maverick on January 30, 2007, 11:00:47 PM
Yeag,

Congress is already rolling over on iran. They have come out warning Bush not to have a war with iran. I would say if it was an iranian raid, congress is going to let them get away with it.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: storch on January 31, 2007, 06:24:31 AM
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Originally posted by VooWho
Nothing wrong with Immegration, does do it Legally. I say hire a bunch of chinese workers and build the Great Wall of America.

What we should do to solve this problem is to invade Mexico, conquer it and make it into the 51st state. Then everyone will be happy. No more border problem, and now the Mexicans are true American citizens.
the problem with building a wall on the southern border will be the interruption of traditional mammal migratory routes across the sonoran desert.  some has to be willing to pick strawberries yaknow.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: lazs2 on January 31, 2007, 09:17:10 AM
someone?   instead of slaves... how bout John Deere?

Another way of ending illegal immigration is to simply raise the minimum wage for farm work to $20 an hour.

lazs
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 31, 2007, 10:50:20 AM
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Originally posted by VooWho
Nothing wrong with Immegration, does do it Legally. I say hire a bunch of chinese workers and build the Great Wall of America.

What we should do to solve this problem is to invade Mexico, conquer it and make it into the 51st state. Then everyone will be happy. No more border problem, and now the Mexicans are true American citizens.


You do realize that mexico itself has many states in it, right?

I'd say offer Mexico entryhood into the united states if and only if they clean up their own act.

I don't want to pick up mexican states and have to clean it up for them.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: john9001 on January 31, 2007, 11:50:12 AM
Mexico has been around as long or longer as the USA, what is their problem?  Time to stop eating the beans an cheese and get their act together.  You can't be a third world country forever.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: ghi on January 31, 2007, 12:29:50 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
Yeag,

Congress is already rolling over on iran. They have come out warning Bush not to have a war with iran. I would say if it was an iranian raid, congress is going to let them get away with it.


  imop,the U.S Congress is wrong, Iran is a growing anti semite/anti west  power and export their ideology all over muslim world, Bush souldn't go to ground war, but bomb their nuclear/military facilities for few weeks, and push them back 20 years
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: VooWho on January 31, 2007, 03:14:54 PM
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Originally posted by ghi
imop,the U.S Congress is wrong, Iran is a growing anti semite/anti west  power and export their ideology all over muslim world, Bush souldn't go to ground war, but bomb their nuclear/military facilities for few weeks, and push them back 20 years


Lets use the MOAB on their military targets. Muhahaha this should scare the **** out of the Iraining soldiers. I would be glad to go to Iraq and watch the border for crossing Irainings. I'd say "Sir you are entering Mexico please return to America and get a passport." That will confuse them some. :huh
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: Goth on January 31, 2007, 05:16:41 PM
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Originally posted by storch
the problem with building a wall on the southern border will be the interruption of traditional mammal migratory routes across the sonoran desert.  some has to be willing to pick strawberries yaknow.


Just install doggy doors.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: Sandman on January 31, 2007, 07:01:35 PM
I saw this on CNN today. They went on and on about how the military suspected Iranian involvement.

And then they said this:

"THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IRANIAN INVOLVEMENT IN THIS ATTACK."

It's nothing more than a hunch.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 31, 2007, 07:29:10 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
I saw this on CNN today. They went on and on about how the military suspected Iranian involvement.

And then they said this:

"THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IRANIAN INVOLVEMENT IN THIS ATTACK."

It's nothing more than a hunch.


There isn't evidence other than the military suspects the Revolutionary Guard may have orchestrated or even carried it out in retaliation for the raid on one of their diplomatic missions and the arrest of 5 Iranian diplomats, some of them members of the Revolutionary Guard and the Iranian intelligence service.

The Iraqis have said that at least one of the raiders of Karbala spoke perfect English in what was described as an "American accent" and had blonde hair.

It is known that there are some American Muslim converts that are in Iraq to fight with the insurgency, like that kid we captured in Afghanistan a few years back.  I wouldn't be all that surprised if some of the raiders were American.  Nor would I be surprised if the Revolutionary Guard had a hand in it. It was clearly executed by a well trained and organized force.


ack-ack


ack-ack
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: VooWho on January 31, 2007, 08:10:45 PM
Maybe the insurgents hired Mercenaries? Alot of people in this world can speak english. This attack would have to be planned from a will trained organization. They used some car bombs to distract the U.S. and Iraqi army troops and then they snuck in.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: Mustaine on January 31, 2007, 08:43:59 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
I saw this on CNN today. They went on and on about how the military suspected Iranian involvement.

And then they said this:

"THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IRANIAN INVOLVEMENT IN THIS ATTACK."

It's nothing more than a hunch.
the all powerful ozz (cnn) has spoken. it must be true
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 31, 2007, 09:24:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Sandman
I saw this on CNN today. They went on and on about how the military suspected Iranian involvement.

And then they said this:

"THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IRANIAN INVOLVEMENT IN THIS ATTACK."

It's nothing more than a hunch.



Ahh the same News service that was telling us we were getting our butts kicked on the way to Bahgdad LOL

May very well be just a hunch. but I know better then to just trust anything any of the Mega news media outlets say just because they said it.
That would include both CNN and FOX
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: VOR on January 31, 2007, 09:26:57 PM
Some hunches are worth looking into and some are sensational journalism.

I'd say this hunch is worth looking into.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: Thrawn on January 31, 2007, 09:49:32 PM
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Originally posted by Mustaine
the all powerful ozz (cnn) has spoken. it must be true


This is akin to me saying, Bush is son of Hilter...now prove me wrong!!!

The burden of proof is on the the people claim Iran was involved.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: Toad on January 31, 2007, 09:52:33 PM
OK, so what if this same incident had resulted in a gunfight on the scene and the result was 5 dead US soldiers and 5 dead Iranian military men in civilian garb. Assume the Iranian dead had been identified as Iranian military beyond a shadow of a doubt.

What then?

I'll answer: Nothing.  NOTHING. NOT ONE THING would be done.

So, just forget about it. It's a meaningless incident.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: ghi on February 01, 2007, 12:40:21 AM
Look what they teach peoples in mosques

Muslim scholar lectures why everyone hates the Jews (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyL-9rrCDZs&mode=related&search=)
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: storch on February 01, 2007, 03:55:44 AM
he said CNN
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: Yeager on February 01, 2007, 10:12:02 AM
typically........when I dont know what to think, I go to CNN and they tell me.




:rolleyes:
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on February 01, 2007, 10:17:28 AM
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Originally posted by Toad
OK, so what if this same incident had resulted in a gunfight on the scene and the result was 5 dead US soldiers and 5 dead Iranian military men in civilian garb. Assume the Iranian dead had been identified as Iranian military beyond a shadow of a doubt.

What then?

I'll answer: Nothing.  NOTHING. NOT ONE THING would be done.

So, just forget about it. It's a meaningless incident.


The man speaks the truth. Even if near irrefutable evidence is found that the nutcase in Tehran ordered it personally, nothing would be done.
Title: The Karbala Incident
Post by: VOR on February 01, 2007, 11:12:04 AM
Ahmadinejad/Chavez '08!!!!