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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: bzek74 on January 31, 2007, 08:13:55 AM
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I had a blast lastnight for a change, after my 100th deacking related death I got sick of watching people swarm while others deack and die so the swarm could deack...I said screw it changed to bish for a hour upped in a field gun on the field and in one hour I killed 19 of my fellow knights. And in one hour of people trying to vulch that field only one brave nik went down to deack. The Bish vox was alive with six checks and con id's something that I rarely hear on nit vox.
They say noone in any country deacks. I watched another country deack 2 fields i was on lastnight in 30 seconds flat.
Im proudly remaining a nit because of the great squad and wings I have within, but with no insult to the rest of my country...are the newbs sent to knight as default? ( serious question ).
Is there a way to fix the ack? Shouldnt the guys with speed trying to deack actually be a harder target due to closing in and the swarm overhead be easier to hit? You have good core players dying to help people with lil acm skills vulch. Or make the ack worth more killing.
I know the simple answer is dont deack if you dont want to die but to cap a field ack must go boom. The simple fact is anyone who watches a countryman go in on ack and doesnt help is about equal to not calling six or helping engage.
90prf
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Originally posted by bzek74
I had a blast lastnight for a change, after my 100th deacking related death I got sick of watching people swarm while others deack and die so the swarm could deack...I said screw it changed to bish for a hour upped in a field gun on the field and in one hour I killed 19 of my fellow knights. And in one hour of people trying to vulch that field only one brave nik went down to deack. The Bish vox was alive with six checks and con id's something that I rarely hear on nit vox.
They say noone in any country deacks. I watched another country deack 2 fields i was on lastnight in 30 seconds flat.
Im proudly remaining a nit because of the great squad and wings I have within, but with no insult to the rest of my country...are the newbs sent to knight as default? ( serious question ).
Is there a way to fix the ack? Shouldnt the guys with speed trying to deack actually be a harder target due to closing in and the swarm overhead be easier to hit? You have good core players dying to help people with lil acm skills vulch. Or make the ack worth more killing.
I know the simple answer is dont deack if you dont want to die but to cap a field ack must go boom. The simple fact is anyone who watches a countryman go in on ack and doesnt help is about equal to not calling six or helping engage.
90prf
Yes from what I have seen the knits do get all new comers by default. At least that's why I am a knit.
Honestly, from what I have seen I would change "pieces" if I wasn't for the squad I am in.
I am back in the tower often while de-acking, but I always get a few :)
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Originally posted by bzek74
Im proudly remaining a nit because of the great squad and wings I have within, but with no insult to the rest of my country...are the newbs sent to knight as default? ( serious question ).
Is there a way to fix the ack? Shouldnt the guys with speed trying to deack actually be a harder target due to closing in and the swarm overhead be easier to hit? You have good core players dying to help people with lil acm skills vulch. Or make the ack worth more killing.
HT has said numerous times, new players that join are sent to countries in a round-robin fashon (ex. Knight -> Rook -> Bish -> Knight -> on and on).
Hitting planes with field gun is what it is ... hard ... and deservedly so. It's just like shooting anything else ... it takes skill and much practice.
Get a couple of LTARS or Zazen in a field gun or Osty and they will reek havoc ... get me or someone who doesn't have much time in the guns or Osty ... you are safe unless you fly DIRECTLY at me.
Most people won't deack for fear of DEATH and what it would do to their score or they wouldn't want to have to fly ALL the way back after being towered ... simple as that.
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:lol :lol :lol :lol
Told ya let em dweeb it up over there. You should have just went with me to another part of the map. They were also dead set on driving cv straight into shore guns AGAIN.
Was funny as hell cv went down with shore guns up, ords up, vh up and bzek74's personal nemesis.................. field ack.:D
Bronk
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What he sad.:(
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100 Post.
:D :D :cool: :D :D :aok
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It was comical watching the nits working on 36 from the Bish perspective. Nits diving in on ack to vulch, augering in and getting torn up. Goons dropping troops over the field at 6k ( 3 drops not just one ). I was rather impressed by the vulching 262 getting inches off deck through ack at top speed. I was impressed by the communication on the bish ends there were many six calls and a few that not only were check 6 but it was "name check 6 zeke at 800 and closing break left ill tag him". But after a hour I felt dirty and homesick so I went back at least with new vigor.
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I stink in a Field Gun or Ostie
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Karaya I was at field in Panzer last night you landed 6 or 7 not bad work...
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Originally posted by sgt203
Karaya I was at field in Panzer last night you landed 6 or 7 not bad work...
40 minute drive for 3 mins worth of work (7 kills). :cool:
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Most people won't deack for fear of DEATH and what it would do to their score or they wouldn't want to have to fly ALL the way back after being towered ... simple as that.
Slapshot said it all, right there. Who wants to be the sacrificial lemming? It's easy to hover over the fight and scream on range, "Somebody deack this field so we can get a cap!!!" And you hear it all the time. Truth is, not many want to do the dirty work themselves. Ack tends to kill you before you can vulch 15 people and get your name with a big fat kill message in the buffer. Turns out, some of the players who seem to be doing the most for teamwork, are actually the most selfish. Advice: If you like to join missions alot, fly a heavy Jug, pony, corsair, or P-38. Dump the ordanance on the town, or make a High dive bomb run on the VH or FH and keep your speed up until your out of ack range. When people scream to deack, just remind them you don't have any cannons, and tell them to ask someone else, since you already got a hangar. And if they start complaining about it, just squelch them.
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personally i don't deack at all, but that isn't because i'm a selfish tard or anything, it's because i would rather that the guys get up in the air, come out to me so that i can kill em without fear of them running to ack, field guns, osti's, etc.
also, i much prefer to let a con get in the air than vulch, that way they always die, they never get to ditch...
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my first two weeks before i started playing online i'd just deack fields for practice. you can deack a field by yourself with out getting shot down, with two people it's easy. Ports seem to be a bit tougher. i perfer to do it when taking a field and joining a mission.
wish i would have known you were on the bish side, i know i've you've pegged me a few times.
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
personally i don't deack at all, but that isn't because i'm a selfish tard or anything, it's because i would rather that the guys get up in the air, come out to me so that i can kill em without fear of them running to ack, field guns, osti's, etc.
also, i much prefer to let a con get in the air than vulch, that way they always die, they never get to ditch...
kinda in the same boat. plus i feel that since i don't really care about the war, i let the ones who do have the glory:) once in ahwile i'll take on out if i'm completely bored, fortunately i don't care about score, so augering is also an option depending on the crowd im with at the time.
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Originally posted by whiteman
my first two weeks before i started playing online i'd just deack fields for practice. you can deack a field by yourself with out getting shot down, with two people it's easy. Ports seem to be a bit tougher. i perfer to do it when taking a field and joining a mission.
wish i would have known you were on the bish side, i know i've you've pegged me a few times.
Please post a film of 2 guys completely de-acking a large field with JUST .50 cals ... I would love to see that.
Ports are a piece of cake compared to a large field.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Please post a film of 2 guys completely de-acking a large field with JUST .50 cals ... I would love to see that.
Ports are a piece of cake compared to a large field.
who said .50's, i sure didn't. rockets & cannons, why the hell would you go deack with .50's????
and sorry i don't film anything. i'm just playing a game no need to break down and film study since i'm not worried about rank, score and what anyone else thinks.
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Deacking in a plane with cannon and rocks is not tough....or even with just a plane full of rocks...i actually enjoy doing it b/c of the satisfying boom :)
Take 2 P38Ls with rocks, and scissor back and forth across the field starting from 8-10K. Stay above 3K using rocks (1 per gun)...usually you and your bud have killed 12-20 guns with just rocks. after 4 or 5 passes.
Continue with cannons when rocks are gone by jinking on ingress and egress so the auto tracking auto guns have trouble hitting you. You'll take a few hits, but, hey...you have TWO engines!
(note - does not work with an LTAR, Zazen, or any other skilled shooter in a manned gun)
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Originally posted by whiteman
who said .50's, i sure didn't. rockets & cannons, why the hell would you go deack with .50's????
Why not? .50 cals are good enough to kill field acks. You just have to make sure that you're hitting the gun and not around it. If I strafe the acks, I only use my 4x .50 cals as I don't see the waste of using my 20mm rounds to take them out.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
If I strafe the acks,
ack-ack
They have ack guns at 29K? :confused:
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1 rocket from 3.5k out per ack it`s that easy but who helps do it?
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Originally posted by SlapShot
HT has said numerous times, new players that join are sent to countries in a round-robin fashon (ex. Knight -> Rook -> Bish -> Knight -> on and on).
It was random, but it is currently set up to assign a new player to the country with the lowest numbers at the time of login.
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Originally posted by Murdr
It was random, but it is currently set up to assign a new player to the country with the lowest numbers at the time of login.
And it's currently a major p*** in the a** if youre a knight in LWO :rolleyes: :D
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Originally posted by Lusche
And it's currently a major p*** in the a** if youre a knight in LWO :rolleyes: :D
Zomg yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111!!!!!
:lol :D :lol
Bronk
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Originally posted by bzek74
I know the simple answer is dont deack if you dont want to die but to cap a field ack must go boom. The simple fact is anyone who watches a countryman go in on ack and doesnt help is about equal to not calling six or helping engage.
This is poppycock! It's twice wrong. Firstly, calling six requires little effort and no risk. Helping engage takes risk but the primary variable is one's own skill. Attacking anti-aircraft guns, however, is nearly certain death regardless of the skill of those attacking. Secondly, as noted previously, many do not care about ground-pounding. The game's called Aces High, and that's what I get out of it - aerial combat, not ground attack. Why should a player be expected to engage in an unfair and un-fun activity?
Originally posted by sirvlad
1 rocket from 3.5k out per ack it`s that easy but who helps do it?
Post a film please. I mean a consistant series of hits, not a one-time event.
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IMO i think bish are the easiest kills of all the teams. don't know why but it just seems that way. sorry for all those that i offended.
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I think there is somthing is wrong with the ack my plane dos'nt like it :mad: stupid ack
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de-acking is not terribly hard to do. One person can do it if theyre carrying cannons. You have to pick angles that give you the upper hand. Start at one end of field and make your time in the "fire" as short as possible taking out one to two guns at a time. Rinse and repeat! Job done! :aok
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Film, please! I've never seen a single flier kill all or even most of the anti-aircraft fire without being damaged enough to put him out of the fight. I'm not talking about the impatient ones who hang around, either. I mean the ones who use proper tactics. They still always get pasted. If you're going to call knocking out all the anti-aircraft guns "easy" you'd better post proof that you've at least done it once.
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
Film, please! I've never seen a single flier kill all or even most of the anti-aircraft fire without being damaged enough to put him out of the fight. I'm not talking about the impatient ones who hang around, either. I mean the ones who use proper tactics. They still always get pasted. If you're going to call knocking out all the anti-aircraft guns "easy" you'd better post proof that you've at least done it once.
it takes a little patience for sure, but I have done it way too many times to bother with someone who is going to call me a liar about it! I usually only film my fights in 1 vs multiples, not deacking a field! LMAO! Use angles and topoagraphy to help, such as making your eggression path on the outer side of the indestructable or hill! It really isn't that hard to do, bro!:aok
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FW A8 can pull off a field deack no problem great guns good armor, but after a few passes your already pretty dinged up and outta E so you easy prey for a spit or la thats sure to up.
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Originally posted by DEMONSLAYER
IMO i think bish are the easiest kills of all the teams. don't know why but it just seems that way. sorry for all those that i offended.
:rofl :rofl