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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rpm on January 31, 2007, 06:21:48 PM
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link (http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/cartoon-network-promo-tied-boston/story.aspx?guid=%7B097E2C5D-F240-4ABF-AB1F-04FA97BFF00F%7D)
LOL, 0h noes!! The terrorists are coming! The terrorists are coming!!
(http://www.aquateencentral.com/images/characters/shake.jpg)
We are the Aqua Teens!
Make the homies say ho and the girlies wanna scream!
#1 in the hood, G.
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AHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
Master Shake told me to do it
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The Mayor of Boston probably feels pretty dang happy with his "assertive action", but to everyone else, the city looks like it's under the control of panicky animals who show some of the worst traits of post 9/11 hysteria.
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I wonder what kind of panic the city would be in if they found a paper bag burning on the front step of the Mayor's office..
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Biological warfare lockdown! Quick! Test the burning bag for anthrax!
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LOL that's awesome!
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(http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2764/ohnoes0ir.jpg)
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Best part, they had been there for 3 weeks. At 1PM today, there were suddenly 3 calls. Sounds like one person started this whole crap.
BTW, they've been in a bunch of other cities like LA and New York for weeks too.
Boston Boston Boston... it just hasn't been the same since Barry Goudreau left.
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Was just reading about that too. And Adult Swim takeover could be one of the greatest political takeovers of all time, if they'd just get rid of that damn anime!
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I'm so proud to live in the Fearful and Paranoid country that GW created.
'OMFG CARTOONS ARE COMING FOR US, Get the bombsquad'.
Then there is the FBI talking about how this is 'Very Serious'
Yeah, the most serious offence afoot here is perhaps posting a billboard without permission... what ever. Its going to be even funnier if they had permission. Then what?
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WTF were these "devises"?
I just don't comprehend what they might have looked like except:
(http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/OMU/OMU142/22P0041.jpg)
now if they truly did look like said devise, and that was the marketing plan... boo cartoon network, otherwise i am totally confused
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And if something were to happen, all of you would be complaining we don't do enough.
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Just imagine, some deekhead at cartoon central screwed up and blew it... how simple is it if some BS terrorist group pulled off the actual thing?
Easy huh?
I SALUTE the response from the Police/Fire Departments immensely!
Make Ted Turner pay for all the $ that incurred.....
Mac
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Originally posted by cav58d
And if something were to happen, all of you would be complaining we don't do enough.
Yeppers, what cav said.
Mac
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Originally posted by nirvana
if they'd just get rid of that damn anime!
hell no, they'll never get rid of anime or they'll lose 3/5 of AS audience.
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Anime is the best part of AS.
I have a new favorite anime series - Dokuro Chan
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Ah to each his own. I think Yahoo had a picture of one of the "devices" and it was an LED picture of one of those block dudes from Aqua Teen Hunger Force with 3 or 4 C or D cell batteries on it, let me go find it again.
picture (http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070201/480/ny20402010027&g=events/us/013107bostondevices;_ylt=AimogAxi4m1Ozkv29OcAG.ZH2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTA3bGk2OHYzBHNlYwN0bXA-)
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Mooninites!
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OMG! A LiteBrite!!!
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1073_1170303853_err.jpg)
You want to see something funny? Go to the video of the coverage from FOX News.:rofl :rofl :rofl
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The Mooninites are planning an invasion of Earth soon. We will be conquered by their elite moon tactics such as
Jumping high
Excellent spellers
2D graphics
Atari-type sound effects while talking, moving, etc
Giving "the bird"
Painfully slow square lazer that will send anyone it hits to the moon
And doing this
(http://www.live-evil.com/Ignignot_spinning.gif)
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Originally posted by AWMac
Just imagine, some deekhead at cartoon central screwed up and blew it... how simple is it if some BS terrorist group pulled off the actual thing?
Easy huh?
I SALUTE the response from the Police/Fire Departments immensely!
Make Ted Turner pay for all the $ that incurred.....
Mac
It's not Ted Turner's job to accommodate the pathological fears of others.
What about the 9 other cities where these have been for 3 weeks now?
This irrational fear is retarded, applauding it equally so.
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What's wrong with this picture? The "suspicious packages" have been in place for 3 weeks before the panic.
Why did it take 3 weeks to find the "bombs" in open public places?
Boston could'nt pour pee out of their boot if you wrote the instructions on the bottom of the heel.
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Originally posted by rpm
Boston could'nt pour pee out of their boot if you wrote the instructions on the bottom of the heel.
:rofl
:aok
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Public places? Like they were in plain sight? One was in a drawer at Boston medical center, yes, a medical building. The transit system and streets were shut down. Would have been real funny if your dad was having a heart attack and couldn't get to the hospital cause he was stuck in the traffic.
I hope they do time, seriously.
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Originally posted by rpm
Boston could'nt pour pee out of their boot if you wrote the instructions on the bottom of the heel.
Yeah, can't compare with those great learning institutions in Texas
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(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1073_1170303853_err.jpg)
Your puny human minds can not handle our superior Moon advertising.
You have been pwnd.
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Originally posted by rpm
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1073_1170303853_err.jpg)
Your puny human minds can not handle our superior Moon advertising.
You have been pwnd.
lol, well, laws here say the city can seek restitution, it cost the city 500k. I am afraid it's Mr. Peter Berdovsky that is going to get pwned
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Originally posted by Sixpence
it cost the city 500k
Even further proof...
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Originally posted by rpm
Even further proof...
Of what, that the stent scraped out brain tissue?
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Of what, that the stent scraped out brain tissue?
No, its proof that your bombsquad can't tell a lite-brite from a bomb...
That really should make you nervous.
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Originally posted by Kurt
No, its proof that your bombsquad can't tell a lite-brite from a bomb...
That really should make you nervous.
How do you tell from a phone call? ESP?
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Originally posted by Chairboy
It's not Ted Turner's job to accommodate the pathological fears of others.
It's not his job to pay someone to call in false bomb threats either
What about the 9 other cities where these have been for 3 weeks now?
Well, if those other cities got four phone calls at 1pm about devices planted at subway stations and bridges, it would have been quite a mess nation wide huh?
"The discovery of the light boards led state, local and federal authorities to close the Boston University and Longfellow Bridges and block boat traffic from the Charles River to Boston Harbor. In addition, the Pentagon said U.S. Northern Command was monitoring the situation from its headquarters in Colorado Springs, Colorado, but said none of its units were dispatched to assist."
This irrational fear is retarded
Yeah, I guess at one point it was irrational to fear jumbo jets taking down skyscrapers
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Yeah, I guess at one point it was irrational to fear jumbo jets taking down skyscrapers [/B]
I think jumbo jets should be outlawed, every time one flys over I am frightened about what it could do.
shamus
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Originally posted by Shamus
I think jumbo jets should be outlawed, every time one flys over I am frightened about what it could do.
shamus
lol, you would if you lived in Beachmont!
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Welcome to the post 9/11 world. Fear all that is unknown. Fear the mighty power of the mooninites! Bow down before Ignignokt!!
After the bomb squad detonated the first one, couldn't they tell it was harmless? Any inconvenience to the city after that point is now the burden of the city! Then the citizens should be concerned it took 2 weeks for these "suspicious" devices to be noticed. They should then question the fact it took all day to notify people that there was no threat. Advertising gone wrong, or new rendition of "Keystone Kops"?
It is possible that terrorists would use an illuminated device to draw attention (though highly unlikely), but would it be attention too or away from the real threat?
The "terrorists" must be laughing their bellybutton off, we jus showed again how inept we are at responding to anything.....We take nearly a week to respond to real dangers on our people that we knew of in advance (Hurricane Katrina debacle) and we take 2 weeks to respond to Lite-Brite IED's.....in only one of the 10 cities they were placed in.....How many billions of your tax money went into "Homeland Security" and this is what you got to show for it....We are so screwed....
IF LITE-BRITES ARE OUTLAWED,
ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE LITE-BRITES!
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You liberals kill me.
Bombs blowing up all around the world and you don't understand why people are worried.
That is why you guys should never be in charge. Reality plays no part in your world.
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How could these light brites reasonably be considered a threat? Should I call the bombsquad when I see a cardboard box lying on the side of the freeway? Or maybe I should call them when I see one of those temporary flashing traffic markers they put up near construction? How's about I call the bombsquad when someone drives past with those wretched under-the-car glowing lights? Could be uranium!
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Originally posted by cav58d
And if something were to happen, all of you would be complaining we don't do enough.
did you see the pictures of the things in question?
Paranoia will destroy ya
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Originally posted by rpm
What's wrong with this picture? The "suspicious packages" have been in place for 3 weeks before the panic.
Why did it take 3 weeks to find the "bombs" in open public places?
Now THAT is the question that really needs to be answered.
Its not that these things were placed where they were.
the one true crime is that it took law enforcement and homeland security types 3 weeks to find them.... In plain sight!
Kinda makes you feel real secure in how safe we all are.
If real bombs were planted I somehow doubt they would wait 3 weeks to set them off
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Originally posted by Mightytboy
You liberals kill me.
Bombs blowing up all around the world and you don't understand why people are worried.
That is why you guys should never be in charge. Reality plays no part in your world.
It isnt a liberal thing. Nor is it a conservative thing
Its a common sense thing!
Then again looking at it in that light
It may very well be both a liberal and conservative thing.
As least noticable of the senses in both parties is "common sense"
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Originally posted by Meatwad
The Mooninites are planning an invasion of Earth soon. We will be conquered by their elite moon tactics such as
Jumping high
Excellent spellers
2D graphics
Atari-type sound effects while talking, moving, etc
Giving "the bird"
Painfully slow square lazer that will send anyone it hits to the moon
And doing this
(http://www.live-evil.com/Ignignot_spinning.gif)
that's all:huh
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This morning I drove to work and passed a _Pile Of Rubble_ at a construction site. Before this wakeup call, I had driven blithely past it, but now I realize that it could CONTAIN A BOMB!
Don't worry, folks. I swerved across traffic to keep my distance from this lurking menace. There was a traffic accident, and it turned out that there wasn't a bomb in the pile of rubble after all, but I expect the construction company to pay for the injuries and damage. In this post 9/11 world, we can't be too careful.
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Originally posted by Meatwad
I have a new favorite anime series - Dokuro Chan
PWN!
Gold material!
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Originally posted by Kurt
I'm so proud to live in the Fearful and Paranoid country that GW created.
'OMFG CARTOONS ARE COMING FOR US, Get the bombsquad'.
Then there is the FBI talking about how this is 'Very Serious'
Yeah, the most serious offence afoot here is perhaps posting a billboard without permission... what ever. Its going to be even funnier if they had permission. Then what?
Bush isnt a very good pres, but blaming him for the cops in boston being retarded is a stretch.
How could anyone with two brain cells think that device was a bomb?
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Originally posted by Mightytboy
You liberals kill me.
Bombs blowing up all around the world and you don't understand why people are worried.
That is why you guys should never be in charge. Reality plays no part in your world.
Not everyone in the thread is a liberal.
(http://www.live-evil.com/Ignignot_spinning.gif)
If you think that needed a bomb sqaud, I am glad people like you are running the country... wait a minute... everyone thinks Bush is an idiot so maybe we do.
Sorry never mind.
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The news says there were cartoon characters in Boston. The only real question I have is why the bostonians didn't elect them into office? Or did they not do so already???????
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Originally posted by Chairboy
How could these light brites reasonably be considered a threat? Should I call the bombsquad when I see a cardboard box lying on the side of the freeway? Or maybe I should call them when I see one of those temporary flashing traffic markers they put up near construction? How's about I call the bombsquad when someone drives past with those wretched under-the-car glowing lights? Could be uranium!
Well, I guess we should just ignore the phone calls. Bomb threats, just a harmless prank
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Well, I guess we should just ignore the phone calls. Bomb threats, just a harmless prank
What the hell are you talking about? There were no bomb threats. Got a link proving otherwise?
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Originally posted by Chairboy
What the hell are you talking about? There were no bomb threats. Got a link proving otherwise?
There were no phone calls? Yes there were, four around 1pm. I'll try to explain, but your agenda that we are all a paranoid nation might get in your way.
First of all, you ask why all these items have not been noticed for weeks. Well, duh, because it wasn't working! The ad didn't work, no one even thought twice about them! Let me tell you something about the big city, you can fall on the ground squirming in pain and people will ignore you and walk right past you.
Now, what happens when an ad doesn't work? Well, you don't get called back.
I work with a part timer(post office) who is full time on the fire dept. I also know some postal police who were outside talking with the state police over at South Station(the GMF is located right behind).
What they have put together is when the ad scheme didn't work as planned, a little extra had to be done, so the phone calls were made. From what I was told, they were not called in as bombs, but as circuit boards with wires and taped objects attached. It was not called in as a glowing light brite.
The calls were made to describe a bomb, not a lite bright.
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Ah, so you're assuming that the makers of the ads themselves called them in?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Don't be ridiculous, or post a link.
The calls weren't bomb threats, like you said, but you've chosen not to retract that error. Consequently, your motives are now suspect. Why did you call them bomb threats?
I expect that a panic-prone citizen saw these and called them in because they'd been properly trained. Either that, or they took a decidedly strong anti-littering stance. What better way to protest what they see as vandalism/litter than by getting the bomb squad involved? Mission accomplished, the guys who built them were arrested.
The nation is now safe from another two artists.
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I think it's funny that the authorities in Boston are going to try and hold the people at Cartoon Network accountable for their $750,000 blunder. Even after they detonated the first couple ones and it was obvious that they weren't bombs, and even after the Turner company had contacted the authorities and advised them that they were just Light-Brites, they still used the bomb squad to take down every one of them. Whose fault is that?
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Ah, so you're assuming that the makers of the ads themselves called them in?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Don't be ridiculous, or post a link.
The calls weren't bomb threats, like you said, but you've chosen not to retract that error. Consequently, your motives are now suspect. Why did you call them bomb threats?
I expect that a panic-prone citizen saw these and called them in because they'd been properly trained. Either that, or they took a decidedly strong anti-littering stance. What better way to protest what they see as vandalism/litter than by getting the bomb squad involved? Mission accomplished, the guys who built them were arrested.
The nation is now safe from another two artists.
Why is it an extraordinary claim?
They were called it to describe a bomb, but I guess they should have waited for more proof, maybe an explosion or something
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You said that the people who made the ads were the ones who called these in as bombs to generate press coverage. Are you retracting that claim now?
Past that, are personal responsibility and judgement concepts you understand?
What level of paranoia is appropriate? Don't weasel out, here are specific examples, tell me if the bomb squad should be called into any of the following:
*A blinking safety light, like this: http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/588964/2/istockphoto_588964_road_safety_3.jpg
* An abandoned car on the side of the highway (it could contains hundreds of lbs of explosives!)
* A car battery sitting on the side of the road
* A cup of coffee sitting on the edge of a trash can
* A trash can
* An ATM
How about a computer that someone has abandoned in a dumpster?
Or a flashlight left on a counter?
Here's a situation: You come out of a store and find that your car, which you had double parked, has been towed away and detonated because "it could have been a carbomb". Do you applaud this? Or is it an overreaction? And if you applaud it, does that mean you're saying all double-parked cars should be treated as bombs and detonated?
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So, you compare a computer sitting in a dumpster to a device made to look like a bomb attached to a bridge.
And you call me rediculous
I salute you and all your mightiness
And a bigger salute to all the people who serve to protect the community. Maybe someday these publicity stunts will be punished and they won't have to deal with them anymore
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Don't be ridiculous, or post a link.
We've finally arrived. If it ain't on the net, it ain't so.
If it be on the net, it is so.
:huh
hap
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How can you detonate a light bright with a straight face? I think the bomb squad is either comprised of a bunch of morons or they just like to see things go boom at tax payers expense. These things didn't even remotely resemble a bomb.
I think the good people of Boston should sue the Boston PD, the FBI and Homeland Security for inciting panic and wasting taxpayer money. Common sense is no longer being used by authorities in this country.
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We have become a nation of hand-wringing candy asses.
The terrorists have won.
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Originally posted by Sandman
We have become a nation of hand-wringing candy asses.
The terrorists have won.
We have a winner!
There were no "bomb threats" made. Period. Somebody saw a LiteBrite with some batteries, somebody blew it WAY out of proportion and said it was a bomb because we are all hand-wringing little old ladies that are scared of our shadows. Boston Police mishandled the situation. Boston city officials mishandled the situation. Massachusetts state officials mishandled the situation. About the only person that did not screw up here was Bush.
The terrorists HAVE won.:(
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Originally posted by Sixpence
So, you compare a computer sitting in a dumpster to a device made to look like a bomb attached to a bridge.
You're a looney. They don't look like bombs. Where did you get that idea? Have you even seen a photo of one?
Holy crap, this is unbelievable.
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Originally posted by ChickenHawk
I think the good people of Boston should sue the Boston PD, the FBI and Homeland Security for inciting panic and wasting taxpayer money. Common sense is no longer being used by authorities in this country.
Seconded. People like the Boston Mayor, Sixpence and Mightyboy are acting like panic-stricken, cheese eating surrender monkeys.
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what can you expect from Massachusetts, they are the people who keep re-electing ed kennedy.
hey mo is that a bomb?
i don't know, hey curly, is that a bomb?
woop woop woop!
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Originally posted by Sandman
We have become a nation of hand-wringing candy asses.
The terrorists have won.
I've been saying that since 9/12/2001
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Originally posted by 1K3
PWN!
Gold material!
Yep, too bad there is only 4 episodes of it :(
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Here's how one west coast city delt with them.
"Portland Police believe 49 signs were placed anonymously around the city. Most appeared on light poles or businesses. Police do not think the signs scared anyone. The Portland bomb squad was never activated."
Link (http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_020107_news_portland_cartoon.401d75f2.html)
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Originally posted by Chairboy
You're a looney. They don't look like bombs. Where did you get that idea? Have you even seen a photo of one?
Holy crap, this is unbelievable.
Look, name calling is a sign of a lost cause. Again, how can you tell what they look like from a phone call?
Looney, weasel, anymore childish comments?
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BTW (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/city_region/breaking_news/2007/02/guerrilla_ad_ag.html)
So I have a link, I guess it must be true eh?
"An advertising executive at Interference Marketing Inc. instructed Peter Berdovsky to keep quiet while police scrambled across the metropolitan area responding to a series of bomb scares. Berdovsky sent an e-mail to friends at 1:25 p.m. telling them not to talk about the marketing scheme to promote the animated television show "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" on the Cartoon Network.
"My boss from the Cartoon Network’s ad agency just called -- she is asking that we pretty please keep everything on the DL," or down low, wrote Berdovsky, according to a copy of the e-mail provided to the Globe."
They deliberately led officials on a wild goose chase, while knowing the panic it was causing.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Look, name calling is a sign of a lost cause.
Originally posted by Sixpence
Of what, that the stent scraped out brain tissue?
Hmm...
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Look, name calling is a sign of a lost cause. Again, how can you tell what they look like from a phone call?
Looney, weasel, anymore childish comments?
Do you know how they look? You asserted that they looked like bombs. Are you retracting that claim?
Have you seen a photo of what these looked like? It doesn't matter what the phone call said (which you originally claimed came from the people who made the advertisement, btw, I notice that you haven't responded to questions about that either), the first police officer on the scene should have taken one look at it and called the whole thing off.
I'm astonished that you continue to make the unsupportable claim that their histrionic overreaction was in any way in-line with the reality of the situation.
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I provided the link, afraid to read it?
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Cat got your tongue?
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So still no response? I guess we have our answer.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
So still no response? I guess we have our answer.
You have the link, it proves what I said, now you play ignorant?
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Originally posted by Sixpence
I provided the link, afraid to read it?
Umm, no you have'nt. You have tap danced around answering the multiple questions as well.
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Originally posted by rpm
Umm, no you have'nt. You have tap danced around answering the multiple questions as well.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/city_region/breaking_news/2007/02/guerrilla_ad_ag.html
'Friends of the local artist accused of spearheading Wednesday's bomb scares said he was warned by an executive at a New York guerrilla marketing firm as early as 1:25 p.m. on Wednesday that their advertising campaign had incited panic in Boston.
An advertising executive at Interference Marketing Inc. instructed Peter Berdovsky to keep quiet while police scrambled across the metropolitan area responding to a series of bomb scares."
What else do you need? They knew what was going on, they knew they had caused panic and knew as the panic grew, so would the publicity. It was a deliberate act to cause panic. The proof is in the fact that they new as early as 1:25pm and decided to let the panic play out, and actually emailed the people who planted the devices not so say anything.
Ok, now you will say that I need more proof right?
And again, how do you tell what it looks like from a phone call?
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How is that an answer to _any_ of the questions you've been asked?
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It says nothing about anybody calling in "a bomb threat" as you have so fervently been claiming. It answers NONE, zero, zip, nada of the questions put forth.
What does it look like from a phone call? Better question is what does it look like from close inspection by trained EOD personel? Too bad we don't have an answer to that one. Apparently, Boston has none.
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I provided the link. there it is. The advertising company deliberatley caused a bomb scare. You asked me what proof I have, there it is!
Ok, I said bomb scare, because when someone calls in and describes what could be a bomb, that's what it is. Now you are going to tell me there was no bomb scare? So, you don't say it's a bomb, you just describe one.
It was a deliberate act by the advertising company to cause panic. Why, when they knew it was causing panic, did they not say anything and let it play out?
That was a deliberate act to cause panic.
Look, as the phone calls are traced to their source, if the the ad company, or anybody who participated didn't make a phone call, i'll admit I was wrong.
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Looks like the free press from this publicity stunt is working to perfection.
Did you see the guys that got arrested and their comments afterwards?
No real surprise that they weren't concerned over the **** they stirred up.
Putz's.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
It's not his job to pay someone to call in false bomb threats either
You said they called in a bomb threat. Don't go changing your story while it's still in print.
Originally posted by Sixpence
It was a deliberate act by the advertising company to cause panic.
No, it was'nt. It was an ad campaign that overestimated the audience. As a matter of fact it was information from TimeWarner thru federal channels that ended the fiasco.
Originally posted by Sixpence
Look, as the phone calls are traced to their source, if the the ad company, or anybody who participated didn't make a phone call, i'll admit I was wrong.
What kind of Paul Revere Caller ID do they have in Boston? Does the information travel at the speed of smell?
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I don't blame Boston officials for being overly cautious, but a simple look at the devices would have eliminated serious concern right away. But you know, better safe than sorry.
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Originally posted by Yeager
I don't blame Boston officials for being overly cautious, but a simple look at the devices would have eliminated serious concern right away. But you know, better safe than sorry.
I could buy this except for a couple things. If you can't see both sides of any device you have no idea what is on the other side. Depending on how it's placed a full view of the item may not be possible.
Secondly nothing says a bomb has to look like the hollywierd representation of dynamite a clock and wires leading to a blasting cap.
Given that there is no do over when dealing with a potential device and the results tend to be somewhat permanent you have to treat it like it's real until proven otherwise.
A news blurb on earlier today had what looked like the Chief of Police making a claim of multiple calls coming into the department about the devices. Unfortunately it was not a long video of the statement and no additional info came out of the ews story to say one way or the other.
I agree that the safe way to deal with it is to be overly cautious and treat it like a valid threat.
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Maverick: They were all in place for 3 weeks without any calls. No calls in any of the other cities. Here in OR, we're not panicky animals who pee all over ourselves in fright when we see a light-brite picture of a cartoon character.
Also, a note, when you refer to seeing the other side, keep in mind that they were as thick as a sturdy piece of paper. They were thin circuit-boards with batteries on the front and some LEDs.
You bring up some good points, just want to make sure that these facts don't get lost in the shuffle.
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They were also in place in 9 other major cities.
I suspect that I was too hasty in my judging the U.S. as being a bunch of hand wringing candy-asses.
Maybe it's just Boston. :)
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Maverick: They were all in place for 3 weeks without any calls. No calls in any of the other cities. Here in OR, we're not panicky animals who pee all over ourselves in fright when we see a light-brite picture of a cartoon character.
Also, a note, when you refer to seeing the other side, keep in mind that they were as thick as a sturdy piece of paper. They were thin circuit-boards with batteries on the front and some LEDs.
You bring up some good points, just want to make sure that these facts don't get lost in the shuffle.
While we are bandying facts about.
Just because they had been there for days does not mean the LEO's had a clue about that bit of information. Believe it or not they don't keep track of every bit of property in the city. Particularly one of how many folks?
Secondly even if a device had been there for days does not mean the same device had been there for the entire time.
Thirdly explosives come in all kinds of "flavors" and don't require a thick device.
Lastly they don't have a clue about what is placed in or even happens in another city. The devices in the other city would have no bearing on how they would react to a call or situation in their own city. If there was no national exposure covering the same situation they wouldn't have much of any idea about it. Until the thing in Boston hit the news I didn't hear anything about any of the other cities. Then again the other devices in the other cities is likely to be a help to the defense in any prosecution to indicate a lack of actual intent to cause harm.
FWIW I agree that the response was over the top, but then again hind sight is always clearer. On the other hand having been in the position of looking for a "suspicious device" in the past you have to assume it's real. If it is and you treat it like it's not, the results can have a significant impact on your surviving family members lives.
In regards to this situation I think prosecution is going to have a very difficult time making a case for intent in this situation. I don't think a prosecution is likely to go very far but then again if the prosecutor has a real political fire lit under him by the city being embarrased they may go for it. They may have more success suing than prosecuting.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Should I call the bombsquad when I see a cardboard box lying on the side of the freeway? !
No. You should walk over to anything you may think is suspicious, pick it up and shake the hell out of it, then slam it to the ground and stomp it flat. Only then you can be sure.:aok
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Originally posted by Slash27
No. You should walk over to anything you may think is suspicious, pick it up and shake the hell out of it, then slam it to the ground and stomp it flat. Only then you can be sure.:aok
:rofl
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Originally posted by Sixpence
From what I was told, they were not called in as bombs, but as circuit boards with wires and taped objects attached. It was not called in as a glowing light brite.
The calls were made to describe a bomb, not a lite bright.
Who cares.
"Sean Stevens and Peter Berdovsky are charged with placing a hoax device that causes panic."
1.) Let's keep making up laws like these. Eventually the Country will laugh itself to death.
2.) Further proof that this nation is letting the pus*ies (regardless of Politicial Parties) run this country into the sewer.
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(http://boingboing.net/images/yhst-37025177803217_1936_64.gif)
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Sixpence seems to have abandoned ship. Man overboard!
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Sixpence seems to have abandoned ship. Man overboard!
Hey, if that saves face for ya
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Well we know how terrorists should disguise bombs now. Just make them look like a toy. Then all the security experts in here will dismiss them without examining them.
"look there's a lite brite cartoon on it. It can't be a bomb huh huh huh huh."
We're sitting ducks.
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You're back! Any chance you'll be answering those questions now, Sixpence?
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Also, a note, when you refer to seeing the other side, keep in mind that they were as thick as a sturdy piece of paper. They were thin circuit-boards with batteries on the front and some LEDs.
Is there some sort of memo somewhere that shows you could not hide an explosive device in this manner? Please point me to it. Please show me a list of things we can just dismiss out of hand as being bombs and where this fits on that list. Its a simple request.
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BTW, can you give me a good reason why we shouldn't treat every newspaper box as a bomb, then? How about treating every cinderblock or abandoned car as a bomb threat?
By your logic, you can't be too careful.
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9/11 security officials tackle two suspicious saudi nationals at Logan airport, found to have pocket knives, being detained and questioned.
Oh, here comes Chairboy. "Boston is freakin paranoid!" "what, are they going to take over a plane with pocket knives and fly them into a skyscraper!?" "the world is now safe from two foreign exchange students!"
The feds just ok'd a site offshore to store LNG, and although we have no links to proof that they will attack them, it's a big relief around here. But hell, I guess we're just being a little paranoid
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Originally posted by Chairboy
BTW, can you give me a good reason why we shouldn't treat every newspaper box as a bomb, then? How about treating every cinderblock or abandoned car as a bomb threat?
By your logic, you can't be too careful.
Because its not out of place. If you find a newspaper box duct taped under your car, you should be suspicious. If you find an abandoned car in a secure location, you should be suspicious and NOT dismiss it out of hand. Those devices were out of place and therefore suspicious.
My logic is when things are out of place or appear unusual, it should raise suspicion. YOUR logic is whatever you said about being too careful
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Wow, you guys are two pretty scared folks.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Wow, you guys are two pretty scared folks.
Well, we're not paranoid that we're all paranoid
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Chairboy, what they fail to address is their own paranoia.
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Judging by your last response, I gather you have nothing intelligent to add to the debate.
Its a far better thing that you be right than try to understand how the simple fact of an object being out of place can make it suspicious.
I feel no obligation to make you less stupid:D
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Chairboy, what they fail to address is their own paranoia.
True that.
Perhaps they can fix all of these concerns by following the British example:
(http://radgeek.com/gt/2005/08/14/WatchfulEyes.jpg)
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Originally posted by BTW
Judging by your last response, I gather you have nothing intelligent to add to the debate.
lol, you hit him in the ego, he's loading both barrels now
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Originally posted by BTW
My logic is when things are out of place or appear unusual, it should raise suspicion. YOUR logic is whatever you said about being too careful
I saw someone walking a cat on a leash, the cat must have been a bomb.
shamus
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Originally posted by Shamus
I saw someone walking a cat on a leash, the cat must have been a bomb.
shamus
You see that in Malibu all the time
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Originally posted by Sixpence
You see that in Malibu all the time
Well the cat wouldn't be explosive in Malibu.
shamus
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Originally posted by Shamus
Well the cat wouldn't be explosive in Malibu.
shamus
I don't know, what if it was a Baldwin?
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Originally posted by Sixpence
I don't know, what if it was a Baldwin?
Well in that case the bomb squad may be justified in putting a stick of dynamite in its arse and lighting the fuse.
shamus
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Originally posted by Shamus
I saw someone walking a cat on a leash, the cat must have been a bomb.
shamus
I saw oil in the street. I could care less. I saw oil under my car. I became suspicious and investigated under my car for a problem.
I saw water in the sink. I don't care. I saw water in the basement. I look for a problem.
I see a sponge bob knapsack in Toy's R Us. I don't care. I see 6 sponge bob knapsacks stuffed under bridges in a city and I look for a reason why.
I understand certain people are oblivious sometime when things are amiss.
They frequently say things like "I downloaded this awesome screen saver and wouldn't you know, my computer is suddenly on the fritz and I can't use it."
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by BTW
I see a sponge bob knapsack in Toy's R Us. I don't care. I see 6 sponge bob knapsacks stuffed under bridges in a city and I look for a reason why.
But do sponge bob posters under bridges scare you too?
shamus
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Originally posted by Shamus
But do sponge bob posters under bridges scare you too?
shamus
Does a person with a pocket knife getting on a plane scare you?
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Originally posted by Shamus
But do sponge bob posters under bridges scare you too?
shamus
Depends. Any powder sugar on them?
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Does a person with a pocket knife getting on a plane scare you?
Not if it is a picture of one with flashing lights on it.
shamus
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Originally posted by Shamus
Not if it is a picture of one with flashing lights on it.
shamus
Nice dodge
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Originally posted by Shamus
Not if it is a picture of one with flashing lights on it.
shamus
I assume you only install the pretty looking Trojans on your computer.
If it has blinking lights, its safe!
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Nice dodge
I thought we were talking about the signs under the bridges in Boston, not knives on planes, my bad.
shamus
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BTW and Sixpense have perfected the art of the strawman argument.
Stay away from fire, guys!
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Originally posted by Chairboy
BTW and Sixpense have perfected the art of the strawman argument.
Stay away from fire, guys!
Hey, he taped up his ego and came back!
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/55_1170524785_ied-artillery_mock-model02-s.jpg)
Hey look, it's a broken computer! I think i'll take it home and fix it!
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Originally posted by Chairboy
BTW and Sixpense have perfected the art of the strawman argument.
Stay away from fire, guys!
Yea I like your argument. "Don't listen to them. They smell bad!!"
Its not a straw man. Its critical thinking. You know how to do it or you don't. I don't think it can be taught.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Hey, he taped up his ego and came back!
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/55_1170524785_ied-artillery_mock-model02-s.jpg)
Hey look, it's a broken computer! I think i'll take it home and fix it!
Are you just hitting random keys on your keyboard now? I think you've confused me with someone else.
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Originally posted by BTW
Yea I like your argument. "Don't listen to them. They smell bad!!"
Its not a straw man. Its critical thinking. You know how to do it or you don't. I don't think it can be taught.
Well, you folks are trying to equate knives on airplanes with LiteBrites. It's called a strawman argument.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Well, you folks are trying to equate knives on airplanes with LiteBrites. It's called a strawman argument.
Like comparing an electronic device placed strategically on local structures to a computer in a dumpster?
I think it's called being a hypocrite
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(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4622/ia3yp.jpg)
This is silly. We're not going to convince each other, so it's a waste of time.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Well, you folks are trying to equate knives on airplanes with LiteBrites. It's called a strawman argument.
Well if that's what you are getting out of it, you aren't keeping up. That's not my fault. It wasn't the outward appearance of the devices that made them suspicious but their location and frequency. Then the next question is could this device be a threat? The only logical answer before inspection is "YES."
Critical thinking enables one to find solutions to problems never incurred before. But is not for everyone. Your contention that an object's placement can't change how suspicious it is utter nonsense. It so nonsensical you can't remotely support it and resort to name calling. "You're scared. You're paranoid." etc.
You're going to instruct me on logical fallacies?
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Originally posted by Chairboy
This is silly. We're not going to convince each other, so it's a waste of time.
Nope, not a total waste, i'm learning to photoshop!
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/55_1170525781_ddd.jpg)
Don't worry, it's only a lite bright!
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The terrorist now know not to mess around in Boston, way to many critical thinkers there.
However all the other cities that had all those highly suspicious devices in them are now in grave danger, obviously full of head in the sand types.
This has been a blast guys, but I gotta go drive around looking for terrorists and suspicious stuff
shamus
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Originally posted by Shamus
This has been a blast guys, but I gotta go drive around looking for terrorists and suspicious stuff
shamus
You get to do all the fun stuff, I have to go to work
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Originally posted by Shamus
The terrorist now know not to mess around in Boston, way to many critical thinkers there.
However all the other cities that had all those highly suspicious devices in them are now in grave danger, obviously full of head in the sand types.
This has been a blast guys, but I gotta go drive around looking for terrorists and suspicious stuff
shamus
Yea, and would you recap the points you made? I missed them. It doesn't seem possible someone could post 6 times and not say anything.
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(http://www.apple-history.com/images/models/ipod_acc.jpg)
I see these things everywhere. They have exposed wires and some sort of flashing light. People I don't know are walking around with them in public places, PUBLIC PLACES!!!!!! Oh noes!!!! They must be t3h suicide bombers!!!
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Originally posted by BTW
Yea, and would you recap the points you made? I missed them. It doesn't seem possible someone could post 6 times and not say anything.
I was only trying to make one...your right, you missed it.
shamus
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"It had a very sinister appearance," Coakley told reporters. "It had a battery behind it, and wires."
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7073/smokedetector7jpgfm4.jpg)
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Originally posted by Chairboy
You said that the people who made the ads were the ones who called these in as bombs to generate press coverage. Are you retracting that claim now?
Past that, are personal responsibility and judgement concepts you understand?
What level of paranoia is appropriate? Don't weasel out, here are specific examples, tell me if the bomb squad should be called into any of the following:
*A blinking safety light, like this: http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/588964/2/istockphoto_588964_road_safety_3.jpg
* An abandoned car on the side of the highway (it could contains hundreds of lbs of explosives!)
* A car battery sitting on the side of the road
* A cup of coffee sitting on the edge of a trash can
* A trash can
* An ATM
How about a computer that someone has abandoned in a dumpster?
Or a flashlight left on a counter?
Here's a situation: You come out of a store and find that your car, which you had double parked, has been towed away and detonated because "it could have been a carbomb". Do you applaud this? Or is it an overreaction? And if you applaud it, does that mean you're saying all double-parked cars should be treated as bombs and detonated?
What about an envelope with a piece of blank paper and a little white powder in it? Think you should be paranoid about that? How could anyone let something like that cause a terrorist alert? You want to be the one that takes the bet that it's just powdered sugar and not anthrax? I know a few postal workers up here in DC that would've lost that bet.
How can anyone be worried about a lite-brite? Geez, lets see - we can make explosives that are liquids, jels, powders, or solids and they can set them off with a cell-phone. Somebody sees a strange object magnetically stuck under a bridge, I think I'd rather they call it in and have it checked out before I drive over it. I don't care if it looks like the energizer bunny.
The idiotic thing wasn't the planting of the things, it was not telling the proper authorities either 1) ahead of time, or 2) immediately after they realized the things were being mistaken for something dangerous. If it turns out that they called in the alert as a publicity stunt when their ads didn't get noticed, that deserves jail time for someone.
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Originally posted by herrhav0k
I think it's funny that the authorities in Boston are going to try and hold the people at Cartoon Network accountable for their $750,000 blunder. Even after they detonated the first couple ones and it was obvious that they weren't bombs, and even after the Turner company had contacted the authorities and advised them that they were just Light-Brites, they still used the bomb squad to take down every one of them. Whose fault is that?
A full on gear-up & roll tactical incident, in the wild, with multiple incidents?, no way anyone at the PD would call that off.. they live for the excitement of that moment and would have played it out with full drama even if the suspicious objects were rubber dog poop that spelled "boom".
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:rofl
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Originally posted by Chairboy
(http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/919.gif)
I just showered the carpet, instead of the new 19" LCD. :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by Chairboy
(http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/919.gif)
WTF is up with the people in black in the upper left corner with the red circles on them? Look like oddly misshapen and misplaced breasts on mutated freaks
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well those "nuke" shoes were made in china.
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Chinese Nukes!!!!
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Originally posted by EagleDNY
What about an envelope with a piece of blank paper and a little white powder in it? Think you should be paranoid about that? How could anyone let something like that cause a terrorist alert? You want to be the one that takes the bet that it's just powdered sugar and not anthrax? I know a few postal workers up here in DC that would've lost that bet.
We were at the GMF in Boston at the time. All the incoming mail of metro Boston gets processed there. Pretty scary, we must have over three thousand people who work there. What are you going to do? You can't stop the mail, we had to go. We put on the cheap masks and the rubber gloves and crossed our fingers. We knew of the other infected postal workers, but they didn't give us much info on the situation other than the building is being tested for spores.
We have machines now that check the mail, they spent millions on them. As the letters are first dumped, they pass through a conveyor that samples the air. It checks for Anthrax and several other biological weapons that we are not privy to.
We have an annual drill in case of a contamination, takes awhile and is extensive. They even take some volunteers to go through decontamination procedures.
About a week after the attacks there was a white powder spill at Somerville station. They evacuated the station and went through the procedures. Turns out it was just oxyclean.
But hey, I guess they were just being paranoid. The fools couldn't tell oxyclean from anthrax
Oh, and btw, to this day, the attacks are unsolved. An interesting read on the attacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks)
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Phewwwww- Had me for a second, but its safe, it has lite brites on it!
(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5096/litebritesub0.jpg)
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Thank you for proving Godwins Law. It demonstrates exactly how strong your argument is.
(golf clap)
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Thank you for proving Godwins Law. It demonstrates exactly how strong your argument is.
(golf clap)
And your post shows how weak and out of context yours has been.
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It's funny, the same day this happened, two actual pipe-bomb hoaxes (decorated to look like pipe bombs) were found in Boston, the person who did it was identified, and he hasn't been arrested.
http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=180349
It's pretty clear that the Boston government is embarrassed by their over-the-top reaction. Incidents like the fake pipe-bomb one I linked to here seem to really shred any assertion that Boston's reaction is in any way appropriate or consistent.
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Ha! Now they're trying to ban guerilla marketing. Folks living in Boston must be mortified at what their elected officials are doing.
http://techdirt.com/articles/20070202/143843.shtml
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Originally posted by Chairboy
It's pretty clear that the Boston government is embarrassed by their over-the-top reaction.
I thought the same when they played "victim" on TV... when PDs start to look a but dumb, they play the "we were fooled" card in the media while passing the buck. And they're not always as "fooled" as they claim...
Some citizen brought a few military smoke grenades to the station for us to dispose of. His brother snagged 3 from a Guard reserve weekend, dude just didn't want his idiot bro to get drunk and chuck em down the street... like hes done before.
I was going to keep em for myself...but my watch commander had another idea: evacuate the city building, put up lots of yellow 'POLICE' tape.. generate drama.. "it could be an explosive made to look like a smoke grenade". He was sporting a woody barking orders like Patton.
3 hours later an old salty mofo Sgt from the Sheriff bomb squad rolls up, while smoking a cigarette he retrieves the smoke grenades, and tosses em in his trunk asking "anything else?" while looking at us as if we were just Fing stupid.
Pretty embarrassing to say the least, but commander Numbnuts had the perfect excuse to justify looking lame; "we just didn't know"...then he blamed the citizen & his brother vowing a full investigation with teh charges!!!
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HHHmmm.
I have a neat idea for a new style smoke alarm. It will have both a high pitched squeel and a loud speaker that broadcasts the words fire alert.
I want to test it. Chairboy I am hiring you to test market it for me in Los Angeles. You then take 12 of them and have them placed inside indoor threaters. During the early evening shows your company triggers them inside the theaters to demonstrate their effectiveness to overcome loud sounds (movie sound tracks) and convey the message of a fire.
You decide to do this rather than conventional marketing methods. You don't intend to harm anyone just demonstrate how effective the devices are. There is no real threat and the devices are benign in appearance. The fire department and police are not notified ahead of the test as you want the most accurate responses to the device possible.
Do you see any problems with your method of marketing?
FWIW this is obviously already against the law but it's still a valid example.
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Riddle me this:
1. Why they were in place for 3 weeks before anyone noticed.
and
2. Why nobody called them in in any of the other 9 major cities where they were installed?
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Riddle me this:
1. Why they were in place for 3 weeks before anyone noticed.
So if some doesn't notice a pipe bomb for three weeks it's not dangerous?
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Ah! So now you're arguing that the Lite Brites were dangerous? I don't think that's an accurate assessment.
BTW, why didn't you answer the questions?
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Possibly because there were more observant people in boston after 3 weeks. Which is kinda hard to believe being it's bean town. It's also immaterial. Lack of observation provides neither safety or danger.
Riddle me this. Why do most drivers involved in a collision with another motor vehicle state they "didn't see the other one"?
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Ah! So now you're arguing that the Lite Brites were dangerous? I don't think that's an accurate assessment.
BTW, why didn't you answer the questions?
Why, you didn't answer mine
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Originally posted by Maverick
Riddle me this. Why do most drivers involved in a collision with another motor vehicle state they "didn't see the other one"?
poor SA
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Originally posted by Sixpence
So if some doesn't notice a pipe bomb for three weeks it's not dangerous?
No, it's already been detonated.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Why, you didn't answer mine
Because you didn't answer the 2nd question. You need a Tom-Tom to debate on the intardnet now?
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My question wasn't answered either! :cry
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Originally posted by Maverick
My question wasn't answered either! :cry
Neither was mine.
Chairboy asked me a question :
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BTW, can you give me a good reason why we shouldn't treat every newspaper box as a bomb, then? How about treating every cinderblock or abandoned car as a bomb threat?
By your logic, you can't be too careful.
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And I answered him
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Because its not out of place. If you find a newspaper box duct taped under your car, you should be suspicious. If you find an abandoned car in a secure location, you should be suspicious and NOT dismiss it out of hand. Those devices were out of place and therefore suspicious.
My logic is when things are out of place or appear unusual, it should raise suspicion. YOUR logic is whatever you said about being too careful
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I asked him a question:
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Is there some sort of memo somewhere that shows you could not hide an explosive device in this manner? Please point me to it. Please show me a list of things we can just dismiss out of hand as being bombs and where this fits on that list. Its a simple request.
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And he just ignores it. Better than just ignoring it, he accuses others of not answering questions!
I think its apparent his "argument" is bankrupt. But far be it from that to silence the squeaky wheel.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Thank you for proving Godwins Law. It demonstrates exactly how strong your argument is.
(golf clap)
Actually it doesn't. The point of the picture was that having lite brites on something doesn't guarantee it innocuous. I didn't compare anything to Hitler.
Keep up
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Another thread here nailed it with the subject line: Common sense has left the building.
Of course there's no memo that says that says bombs can't be disguised. But your argument is pretty ridiculous, because you seem to forget that ANYTHING out there could be disguised as a bomb by your logic. I mentioned a newspaper box, and your response was "Well, I'd be suspicious if a newspaper box was attached to the bottom of a bridge" or out of place in some other way. Why does it have to be out of place? The terrorists could put a newspaper box in a perfectly normal place and it'd be a big bad ol' bomb that nobody would notice.
...but you don't react until someone puts a lite-brite on the side of a bridge?
Get real folks. After the first "device" was identified as harmless, anything past that was overreaction and a shameful reflection on the judgement of the people involved in orchestrating the panic. The Mayor of boston says he wants to sue Turner to pay for their panic? Maybe the taxpayers should sue the city government for wasting their money.
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Chairboy, surely you panicked at any sight of 747s and/or boxcutters since New York :lol
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We can all rest east. Chairboy has spoken. He's going to investigate all the unknown devices in the country cuz he knows if they're safe or not.
If it's got lite brites on it it can't possibly be a bomb.
If no one sees it or notices it, it's safe.
There won't be any bombs at all as long as one of them is not explosive. They have to all be explosive or not at all.
If any one or company puts out something that looks or could look suspicious it's not their fault if it's misinterpreted.
:p
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What a maroon. What a wise guy.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Of course there's no memo that says that says bombs can't be disguised. But your argument is pretty ridiculous, because you seem to forget that ANYTHING out there could be disguised as a bomb by your logic. I mentioned a newspaper box, and your response was "Well, I'd be suspicious if a newspaper box was attached to the bottom of a bridge" or out of place in some other way. Why does it have to be out of place? The terrorists could put a newspaper box in a perfectly normal place and it'd be a big bad ol' bomb that nobody would notice.
...but you don't react until someone puts a lite-brite on the side of a bridge?
Get real folks. After the first "device" was identified as harmless, anything past
Now we're getting somewhere. You say MY argument is "pretty ridiculous", yet when you finally answer my question you have to concede my fist point i.e., there is no book as to what could or could not be a bomb. Of course thats the case, but you were skipping over that fact when ridiculing people for taking a device with lite brites on it, seriously. The lite brites and cartoon logo mean absolutely nothing in deciding if its a threat. You are exactly right -ANYTHING could be a bomb in disguise. And obviously police can't check everything, but they can check things that don't look right. You ask "why does it have to be out of place?" Because if it was in place, it would look right. It would not be suspicious and if it was a bomb it would probably work. That's why they remove garbage cans from the rout of a presidential motorcade. Because a bomb could easily be put in a garbage can and it wouldn't look unusual.
The people putting out those devices did not notify police, and they were put in unusual places. They could have hung the devices is store shop windows. I don't think they would have created an uproar. The owners of the shops could easily explain them. But to put them on the supports of overpasses? That's unusual. So unusual, you can't give an example of another publicity stunt so stupid that didn't end in arrests. I would put this on the level of "*******" (edited word was a synonym for donkey) type stunts and many of those have ended in arrests.
But all of this is getting off track. The argument is whether or not the Boston police over reacted. You have yet to give any logic that shows they did.
You logic (which is no logic ) says because some bombs could be disguised completely, the police shouldn't thoroughly examine poorly disguised or suspicious devices. Again, thats just ridiculous.
You logic, your "argument", doesn't work. It makes no sense.
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BTW,
Let the thread die. The only arguement Chairboy hasn't used is "he has a plan" or he "could do it better". It's all beeyotch and no realistic suggestions about how it should have been handled. Frankly, I'm surprised he didn't bother dumping on the media who spread the "news" about the devices. :huh
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Originally posted by Chairboy
What a maroon. What a wise guy.
He may be both but he IS correct.
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If he's "correct", then I guess you're arguing that the other 9 major cities that didn't pee their pants with panic were wrong?
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Originally posted by moot
Chairboy, surely you panicked at any sight of 747s and/or boxcutters since New York :lol
It won't make my life any different than before, I refuse to look over my shoulders in fear. Sorry, but I won't give the pansy terrorists that kind of satisfaction. 95% of the Country is doing the same thing as me.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Get real folks. After the first "device" was identified as harmless, anything past that was overreaction and a shameful reflection on the judgement of the people involved in orchestrating the panic.
The bottom line and it is so true, it hurts.
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What mashyourbum is saying is that being prepared is for pansies
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Originally posted by Sixpence
What mashyourbum is saying is that being prepared is for pansies
No What he is saying is that acting like a pansy is for pansies.
shamus
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Originally posted by Shamus
No What he is saying is that being from Michigan is for pansies.
shamus
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:lol
shamus
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Yes, Nasherbrum, that's what I meant.
****ting your pants is not much use.
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Sixpence & BTW were right, video footage has just been unveiled showing the plotting behind this dark deed:
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1741589
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This keeping you awake at night or what?
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Considering the thread has been unmolested for a week and a half, how do you come to that conclusion? Just thought it was a funny video, didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
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Hurt my feelings? You do think alot of yourself.
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Chairboy, what the hells wrong with you?!!!!, posting that will cause mass terrorist attacks to rain down on our great nation.
shamus
it was a stitch tho:)