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Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: FiLtH on February 03, 2007, 12:27:42 AM
Im talking the game, not free agency, or things outside the gameplay.

   1. Change pass interference to 10 yd penalty

   2.  During OT field goals are not accepted, only TDs.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: SteveBailey on February 03, 2007, 12:55:20 AM
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1. Change pass interference to 10 yd penalty



 It's 3rd and 12, the offensive player looks like he is about to make the catch for the first down... he's behind the defender, 30 yards deep and will score if he makes the catch. The defender drags him to the ground... only a 10 yard penalty?  so it would be 3rd and 2?  



I think the QB's are overly protected.  I saw too many "In the grasp" calls where there was a fumble but the ball was ruled dead.  I've also seen some rediculous roughing the passer calls this season.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Sixpence on February 03, 2007, 01:11:25 AM
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
I think the QB's are overly protected.  I saw too many "In the grasp" calls where there was a fumble but the ball was ruled dead.  I've also seen some rediculous roughing the passer calls this season.


I would agree, but if they are going to protect them, it shouldn't be a judgement call. As soon as a defensive player has a hold, even one hand on the jersey, of a QB it should be ruled dead.

Did you see that Giants game where the defensive lineman had Vince Young wrapped up? Well, Young is strong and wouldn't fall to the ground. If the defensive player picks him up to get his feet off the ground to get leverage and Young slams to the ground, the linemen gets a roughing the passer call. If he doesn't, Young can still throw the ball, how fair is that? What happened was the lineman, knowing he clearly had both arms around him, didn't want to get a penalty, so he let go thinking(as he should) that the QB was in the grasp. Well, the whistle doesn't get blown and Young runs for a TD.

The defense should have been able to challenge that the QB was in the grasp, with a clear rule defining it.

Young is very strong, and it takes alot of force to bring him down, and you are asking defensive lineman not to what is required to bring him down.

There is too much of a grey area where one ref will see a roughing the passer and another ref, same play, won't.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Sandman on February 03, 2007, 01:15:24 AM
1. Reduce the play clock to 25 seconds.

2. Seed the teams at the end of regular season and carry home field advantage all the way through the super bowl.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: DiabloTX on February 03, 2007, 01:31:55 AM
1.  Push the quarters to 20 minutes.

2.  Double the amount of cheerleaders.

3.  Between each play the tv cams must find the hot girls in the stands (except for when the game is played in Cleveland for obvious reasons).

4.  Endzone celebrations mean automatic rejections from the game.  Diving into the endzone means the same.

5.  When the home teams scores a touchdown the cheerleaders must make out with each other for one second per each point scored.

Yeah...that ought to do it.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: sluggish on February 03, 2007, 01:38:33 AM
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
It's 3rd and 12, the offensive player looks like he is about to make the catch for the first down... he's behind the defender, 30 yards deep and will score if he makes the catch. The defender drags him to the ground... only a 10 yard penalty?  so it would be 3rd and 2?  



I think the QB's are overly protected.  I saw too many "In the grasp" calls where there was a fumble but the ball was ruled dead.  I've also seen some rediculous roughing the passer calls this season.
I agree.  10 yards and an automatic first down.  That'll fix it.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: rpm on February 03, 2007, 02:13:46 AM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
2.  Double the amount of cheerleaders.

3.  Between each play the tv cams must find the hot girls in the stands (except for when the game is played in Cleveland for obvious reasons).

5.  When the home teams scores a touchdown the cheerleaders must make out with each other for one second per each point scored.
I think you're on to something!!!:aok
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Ball on February 03, 2007, 02:16:11 AM
1. Change the name to "Throwandjumponthefloorball"

That is all.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: AWMac on February 03, 2007, 04:06:59 AM
Nude Cheerleaders.

:O

Mac
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: FBplmmr on February 03, 2007, 05:39:52 AM
OT should be a full quarter not sudden death.(repeat as needed)

no dancing by the players ... I think Tom Landry once said "when you get in the endzone, act like you've been there before"


if you spend all that money for "sunday ticket" they should send a couple of cheerleaders to your house..with beer!

diablotx  should be put in charge of cheerleader recruitment and choreography!
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: WhiteHawk on February 03, 2007, 05:55:29 AM
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Originally posted by FBplmmr
OT should be a full quarter not sudden death.(repeat as needed)

no dancing by the players ... I think Tom Landry once said "when you get in the endzone, act like you've been there before"


if you spend all that money for "sunday ticket" they should send a couple of cheerleaders to your house..with beer!

diablotx  should be put in charge of cheerleader recruitment and choreography!


They should change that dumb 'blue line' offsides rule, man that is a buzzkiller...oh..thats hockey.  Sorry.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Mustaine on February 03, 2007, 07:09:51 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman
2. Seed the teams at the end of regular season and carry home field advantage all the way through the super bowl.

so the lowest "seed" team who gets in the playoffs on a chance turns around and wins the conference championship then has to play as a "visitor" at possibly the best team in the opposing conference's home?

that would really seem to give an uneven advantage to higher "seeded" teams in the playoffs, and actually make them suck IMHO.

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Originally posted by sluggish
I agree.  10 yards and an automatic first down.  That'll fix it.
that still doesn't fix the possible 40+ yard reception intentionally interfered with.

how would you take it if your team was on their own 5 yard line, and made a pass out to the opponents 45 only to have the defender KNOW if he just tackles the receiver you only get out to the 15 yard line. it is a first down either way, why NOT intentionally just tackle any receiver who goes past 10 yards?
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: VOR on February 03, 2007, 07:41:43 AM
Salaries.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Ripsnort on February 03, 2007, 08:41:09 AM
I'd like to see OT operate the same way College OT works.  Both sides get a chance, until the other cannot score.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: bzek74 on February 03, 2007, 09:07:03 AM
Take superbowl back to old days where the teams played at own field....Buffalo would have won at least 3 outta the 4 playing at home in Jan.  Also the game is becoming soft. Years ago they had junk gear and played like animals. This is a contact sport where contact gets you a fine.

                                                  90prf
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: majic on February 03, 2007, 09:14:08 AM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I'd like to see OT operate the same way College OT works.  Both sides get a chance, until the other cannot score.


The college way is the lamest approach ever.  It's like a football's version of the shootout.  Keep sudden death.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 03, 2007, 10:10:33 AM
1.) Donovan McNabb is fired, and hired by the local dennies as a janitor.  He gets fired in 3 days for sucking so bad no matter where he goes.

2.) Endzone Dances are now legal.  You have 30 seconds to dance, anyone can join who wants to.  At the end of the 30 seconds to dance, the Referees vote on whether your dance was lame.  If it was lame, you don't get a chance to kick a field goal.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: myelo on February 03, 2007, 10:51:54 AM
1. No domes, no artificial turf. You play outside on real grass.

2. Get rid of video replay challenges. The official makes the call and you move on.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Sixpence on February 03, 2007, 10:58:03 AM
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Originally posted by myelo


1. No domes, no artificial turf. You play outside on real grass.

That will make bill polian cry!

2. Get rid of video replay challenges. The official makes the call and you move on.

A robot cyborg ref with built in reply of what he saw that processes in nano seconds, and a built in stun gun for end zone dances
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Dinger on February 03, 2007, 10:58:13 AM
Superbowl:

In order to be eligible for superbowl tickets, fans must be able to prove attendance at at least one regular-season game of one of the two competing teams. Pass a law requiring a mandatory paid holiday for any fan holding a superbowl ticket, running from the Thursday before the game to the Tuesday afterwards. Inside the stadium, a two-drink minimum will be strictly enforced.
Corporate fatcats can still have the skyboxes.

Superbowl is played outside, in someplace where the weather is likely to be unpleasant. None of this BS airconditioned/keeping cool down south pampered crap: we get enough of that with the SEC fans crowing about how their teams are the best because they've never played in real football weather. If there's not a good chance of snow, fog, really cold temperatures, driving rain, or other nasty weather, you don't schedule a superbowl there.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: rpm on February 03, 2007, 11:15:33 AM
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Originally posted by bzek74
Take superbowl back to old days where the teams played at own field....Buffalo would have won at least 3 outta the 4 playing at home in Jan.  Also the game is becoming soft. Years ago they had junk gear and played like animals. This is a contact sport where contact gets you a fine.

                                                  90prf
The "old" days? How about the "old imaginary" days. The Superbowl has always been played at a neutral site determined before the season starts. It's possible for it to be played at a home team's stadium, but it would be a fluke.

I'm inclined to agree with you to a degree about equiptment & contact. Problem is overall, players are bigger, strongerand faster than they were back in the day. You have to rein it in a bit or it would be a bloody massacre for QB's and recievers.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Mustaine on February 03, 2007, 12:24:51 PM
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Originally posted by Dinger
Superbowl:

In order to be eligible for superbowl tickets, fans must be able to prove attendance at at least one regular-season game of one of the two competing teams.
I sort of like that....

except in some cases (Green Bay Packers) ALL tickets are season tickets. you own them for life, and can even pass them down to immediate relatives.

there is no general sale of tickets for any packer game, though you buy scalped tickets all the time. in a situation like that only the season ticket owner get's a shot at superbowl? or the one who actually went to the game?


the waiting list is something like 140 years for Packer tickets right now
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 03, 2007, 12:30:12 PM
Oh, forgot one.


From now on, all stadiums are superbowl eligible stadiums.  The football players need to grow a pair of balls and realize they may be playing in the snow.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Ripsnort on February 03, 2007, 12:48:12 PM
Originally posted by bzek74
Take superbowl back to old days where the teams played at own field


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Originally posted by rpm
The "old" days? How about the "old imaginary" days. The Superbowl has always been played at a neutral site determined before the season starts. It's possible for it to be played at a home team's stadium, but it would be a fluke.
 


I think he meant back before the Superbowl. The NFL Championship Game and AFL CHampionship game *was* the final championship game ending each season, and they played it at home of the best record.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: E25280 on February 03, 2007, 12:51:36 PM
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
I think the QB's are overly protected.  I saw too many "In the grasp" calls where there was a fumble but the ball was ruled dead.  I've also seen some rediculous roughing the passer calls this season.
Agreed.  Return the QB position to "football player" status from its current "protected asset" status.

Make field goals >50 yards worth 4 points, and therefore worth attempting.  Tired of lame 25 yard punts.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: rpm on February 03, 2007, 12:57:51 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I think he meant back before the Superbowl. The NFL Championship Game and AFL CHampionship game *was* the final championship game ending each season, and they played it at home of the best record.
They still do.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: cav58d on February 03, 2007, 01:50:42 PM
I wish Paul Dungey and Lovie Smith would shut the hell up about the "black bowl".  This is the first time to black head coaches have taken a team to the Super Bowl.  Whoop dee fah-who-gen do!  It's 2007.  I really dont give a watermelon what color the skin on the coach is.  Just show me some good football.

Another thing i'd like to see is an option to Punt on kickoff like after a safety.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Dace on February 03, 2007, 02:04:28 PM
If you dont follow football enough to know the head coaches correct names....you shouldnt post on the matter :p
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Debonair on February 03, 2007, 03:29:26 PM
Art Monk should be in Canton.
In his day he held just about every NFL receiving record & was in his 7th year of eligibility:mad::mad::mad::furious:furiousi guess michael irvin will go in the OJ LT wing:lol:lolcrack potatos r considered poor taste in some circles, but@least he seems to have (as opposed to his QB) liked women:rofl:rofl
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Sandman on February 03, 2007, 03:49:41 PM
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Originally posted by Mustaine
so the lowest "seed" team who gets in the playoffs on a chance turns around and wins the conference championship then has to play as a "visitor" at possibly the best team in the opposing conference's home?

that would really seem to give an uneven advantage to higher "seeded" teams in the playoffs, and actually make them suck IMHO.


Exactly. There should be an advantage to the team that played better during the regular season.

...oh and the higher seeded teams receive this advantage in every playoff game except the superbowl (which already sucks).
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: cav58d on February 03, 2007, 03:54:56 PM
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Originally posted by Dace
If you dont follow football enough to know the head coaches correct names....you shouldnt post on the matter :p


LMFAO.  Tony Dungey oops.  I have a friend named Paul Dungey, my bad.

And I lettered three years...Special Teams Varsity my sophmore and started monsterback junior and senior, both seasons going to State Champs.  Please don't question my football experience.

P A.D.S

Man...I miss high school football..haha
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Debonair on February 03, 2007, 04:12:37 PM
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Originally posted by (http://www.tvstoreonline.com/albundy003new1.JPG)
LMFAO.  Tony Dungey oops.  I have a friend named Paul Dungey, my bad.

And I lettered three years...Special Teams Varsity my sophmore and started monsterback junior and senior, both seasons going to State Champs.  Please don't question my football experience.

P A.D.S

Man...I miss high school football..haha

:aok :aok :aok (http://www.worth1000.com/entries/157000/157215yEGd_w.jpg) :aok :aok :cool:
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: cav58d on February 03, 2007, 04:16:16 PM
HAHAHAHAHA.....3 picks, two ran back for a TD and a sack forcing a fumble.  Greatest Day of my life. HAHAHA
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Debonair on February 03, 2007, 04:20:59 PM
1 rushing TD, 1 TD catch, 1 two point conversoin catch, gave a guy a concussion:aok:aok:aok:cool::cool:
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Stringer on February 03, 2007, 04:45:49 PM
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Originally posted by cav58d
HAHAHAHAHA.....3 picks, two ran back for a TD and a sack forcing a fumble.  Greatest Day of my life. HAHAHA


I'd argue the greatest day of your life was when you penned and posted your Blizzard poem.

It really....really doesn't get much better than that.............for you anyway.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Halo on February 03, 2007, 10:22:28 PM
1.  Put only CHAMPION teams in playoffs, not wild card teams.  If odd number of leagues, figure out a way to make them even number.  Duh.

2.  Take the foot out of football point scoring.  Extra points are virtually automatic as are field goals within 30 yards; even 50 yarders are becoming expected.

a.  For extra points, teams should get one chance to score from the 10-yard line for one extra point, or one chance to score from the 30-yard line for two extra points.  

b.  No more field goals, period.  The game is about getting the ball over the goal line carried or caught by a human.  Extra points and field goals are just tie breakers.  In the unusual game where field goals are only score, that basically shows which team has the best kicker, and it's an 11-person team.  

c.  Kickers only kick off or punt.  That's enough involvement to retain the name Football.  American football is not Euro football, which is ironically called soccer which sounds more like what American football teams do to each other.
Title: Re: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: kamilyun on February 03, 2007, 11:14:55 PM
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Im talking the game, not free agency, or things outside the gameplay.


Game footage reviewed and uncalled penalties noted.  They review the refs don't they?  Well, would be nice if they kept tabs on the players...especially "unsportsmanlike conduct" incidents  out of the view of the refs.

That and cut down on the endzone dances.

I know it's not a "gentleman's game" but too many hotheads and showboaters out there these days...
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Debonair on February 03, 2007, 11:20:31 PM
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Originally not posted by tony romo
Extra points are virtually automatic as are field goals within 30 yards....
 lol pwnt
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Gooss on February 03, 2007, 11:33:05 PM
Until the ball is thrown, the receiver is fresh meat.  But, hell, pass interference should be abolished anyways.  

Helmet to helmet contact is okay because they're both wearing helmets, for gawd's sake.

The head slap is once again a pass rushing technique, uh, because of the helmet thing again.

The QB slide should once again be an invitation to pile on.

I'll head back to my cave.

HONK!
Gooss
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: FiLtH on February 04, 2007, 01:08:51 AM
Sorry I meant 10yd and auto 1st down, not just 10 yd penalty.

 I like Diablo's cheerleader stuff.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Red Tail 444 on February 04, 2007, 01:28:55 AM
Bring back the XFL, no free catch. No dead ball on punts.

On, also bring back face masks and leg whips, especially on the QB's.

And, the play is ended when forward progress stopped, NOT the knee touching the ground.

HELL yeah!
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Black Sheep on February 04, 2007, 01:33:14 AM
Randomly placed land mines.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: Sixpence on February 04, 2007, 01:45:30 AM
Oh, and a fly by at the ending every National Anthem. And it has to be something really loud to whip the crowd into a frenzy like a low B52
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: SirLoin on February 04, 2007, 10:52:10 AM
1:Add 5 yards to the end-zone

2:No more touch backs...If ball sails past endzone,kicking team is penalized 10 yards and ball is re-punted.If kick is fielded in end zone it must be run out or it's a safety.

3:Add a Canadian team(Toronto)

4:Add white stripes to football(so u can better see those perfect spiral throws & kicks)

5:Allow offensive players to latch-on and push ball carriers(like rugby)..Whistle blown dead only when player is down.

6:Extra point (TD)kicked(or drop kicked) from longitudnal point from where player was downed in end-zone.(a-la rugby)
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: killnu on February 04, 2007, 10:59:34 AM
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1. Put only CHAMPION teams in playoffs, not wild card teams. If odd number of leagues, figure out a way to make them even number. Duh.


uh no.  you miss out on something like the steelers did last year...like it or not, it was something you never seen before...and it was exciting to watch.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: whels on February 04, 2007, 11:23:41 AM
The 1 thing id change is in penalties.

when there is a flag on both sides, NO MORE offsetting penalties.
walk both of them off and what every yardage is  difference is enforced.

no way in hell a 5 yard  and a 15 yard penalty offset each other.
Title: Nmae 2 things you would like changed in the NFL
Post by: squealer on February 04, 2007, 11:26:15 AM
NFL.....Bunch of slack jawed studmuffingot padding/helmet wearing pansies..
Play rugby like real men....:lol