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Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: The Fury on February 03, 2007, 08:06:15 AM
Me and the squaddies were attacking a13 last night we fly rooks at the moment, We flew there 3 times killing ack and stuff and the uppers i got killed 2 times outta 3 by ack, one by town ack, once by field ack, anyway on the third time there we finally have them down and are vulching the field, a set of buffs just kept upping all the time so i wanted some of it seen as though i had done a damn good job de-acking and thought i deserved to vulch. As i am laying waste to these buffs in my tight turning spit 8 all of a sudden a squaddie says "did he just swear at you fury?" i have very bad vox problems so i didnt hear it can barely hear ingame vox at all but he was on our team. I know who the person was and took note of it he crashed i think while vulching, anyway while on my way home with 6 vulches and 2 air to air kills i get jumped by a lone la7 i had no ammo at all i used it fight my way out hense the two air to air kills i avoid the la7 as much as i can but he eventually kills me it turns out it was the same guy who was on our team earlier who swore at me i pm`d him and asked why he changed sides he responded with "to kill you" i asked why he said "i was being greedy" because he only got 9 assists with 50cals, i told him i couldnt hear him calling out his apparent targets because my vox is low but he was set in his ways and i was in the wrong apparently i was being greedy. imo i just think he was miffed coz i had a good vulch going , I REALLY COULDNT HEAR HIM!!!!!!. Anyway i think it was very childish behavior and i hope i never come across this person again because he is a nasty peice of work for a respected member of the community i think. I have come away from a vulch fest with 13 assissts before and not swore at anyone or changed sides to kill them so they dont land kills. Using 50cals to vulch your always gna come off second best to cannons especially if the vulcher is using a turn plane so what did he expect?

Sry for such a long post i wanted to know what the community thinks about this behavior.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Schatzi on February 03, 2007, 08:09:42 AM
Not sure what the community thinks. But I can tell you what I did reading your story:

:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Roscoroo on February 03, 2007, 08:16:57 AM
<--borrows Schatzi's Pink Towel :rofl .... (wipes Eyes )....

Poor vulch score gamer ....

It couldn't of been a Real Rooklander anyway ...  We land our Assists with Pride
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: lagger86 on February 03, 2007, 08:20:13 AM
I think you got alot of kills, and he got 1 kill and a bunch of assists.....the key is, did you take the base? The fact that he uped an Lgay seems quite dweeby to me, I personally would have gone with a spit nine used up all my cannons trying to shoot you then ping you with my 303's and run away thinking I'm the greatest.
Title: you must be joking
Post by: storch on February 03, 2007, 08:25:51 AM
this is exactly what is wrong with the game.  he thinks he did a "damned fine job of deacking and now he deserves to vultch"  pathetic.  I consider vultching pathetic and the other player slightly moreso than yourself.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Sketch on February 03, 2007, 08:27:04 AM
Yeah there were a few hornets nest around last night... probably somethig in the water.  A few rude folks on last night.  Killz got yelled at for 30 minutes because a guys SA sucks and he got ran down by a nikki.... I just laugh at them when they can single one person out for thier mistakes...  but it does add good humor to the night!! :rofl
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: The Fury on February 03, 2007, 08:29:13 AM
ROFL Storch

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Vulching/Capping its all the same!

I prefer to use the term pre-emptive kills.



:aok
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: a4944 on February 03, 2007, 08:33:13 AM
Bunch of buzzards bickering and killing their own.  I like it! :aok

You should let them up and at least give them the first turn to get a bit of speed if not taking the field.   I admit, don't vulch is an easy thing to say for an experienced player and everyone seems to do it which kills the fight.  Leave the ack up, it gives them a chance to get off the field.

Venom
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: FBplmmr on February 03, 2007, 08:42:32 AM
yup you "earned" those vilches:rofl


after all you spawn camped with altitude:aok
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: SlapShot on February 03, 2007, 08:47:11 AM
Is this guy out of order? ... sounds more like desperate to me.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Bronk on February 03, 2007, 09:01:45 AM
I tried to vulch last night.  Sadly I couldn't get next to the field too many enemy AC.



























So I  just shot em out of the air instead. :t :t :t

Bronk
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: GooseAW on February 03, 2007, 09:07:05 AM
Yes Fury,

The guy was wrong, and lame on top of that. But you're a rook so no major loss.:t

I do some o my best vulching with 50s btw :aok
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Speed55 on February 03, 2007, 09:13:10 AM
The only ways in this game to supress a field for town capture are to drop the hangers or vulch.
M3's and goons are so easy to kill that if one upper makes it to town chances are that the capture will go sour.
Once the vulch light is on, everyone gets a bit greedy.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: hubsonfire on February 03, 2007, 10:38:54 AM
Today's word is, "Punctuation".

You're lame for spending that much time just to vulch a field, and he's lame for tagging along. No biggie, not like that's unusual in the first week of a new tour.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Saxman on February 03, 2007, 10:41:14 AM
For the last time it's not vulching!

It's BASE SUPPRESSION!
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: KONG1 on February 03, 2007, 10:52:41 AM
Dweeb vs Dweeb.

A battle of lameness to establish once and for all who is the biggest luzer.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: The Fury on February 03, 2007, 11:43:07 AM
So were lame for vulching according to some people?

We didnt spend all that time to go to the base to VULCH we went to the base to TAKE it but vulching needs to be done if your gna take a field with uppers on it especially when there upping in 3s and 4s we had a small band of men maybe 5 - 10 so we couldnt exactly let them up now could we?

We was just capping/vulching the field until our squad mates got there with there bombs whats wrong with that?

the field was de-acked thanx to us and the field was capped, i thought the idea of the game was to surpress the enemy not give your enemy a chance? thats what we was doing and some people slate us for it?

People can spawncamp in TT and not get stick why cant we spawncamp a airfield? with the intention of taking the camped field.

If its one v one il let you up but if you got a mate il vulch ya.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: pluck on February 03, 2007, 11:44:44 AM
vultch fight! vulching is lame, especially when just padding scores, not trying to take a base.  complaining about vulching is lame, complaining about someone else complaining about you vulching is very lame.  switching countries to settle the dispute involving vulching, lame, with elements of coolness.  whining on the bb about the whole incident, hilarious.  that's my take on the whole matter.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: uberhun on February 03, 2007, 12:04:02 PM
:huh :rofl
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: ColKLink on February 03, 2007, 12:04:25 PM
I vulch, therefore I am. I ho, there for I am. so what? :o
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Mace2004 on February 03, 2007, 12:14:18 PM
I wouldn't worry about it.  It's your $15 a month, spend it how you want to and don't worry about the other "opiners".
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Max on February 03, 2007, 12:33:21 PM
Could be the silliest post I've come across in 6 years.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: zorstorer on February 03, 2007, 12:45:27 PM
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Originally posted by Mace2004
I wouldn't worry about it.  It's your $15 a month, spend it how you want to and don't worry about the other "opiners".


Ummmm but he asked the "community" what we thought ;)
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: bj229r on February 03, 2007, 12:54:52 PM
betcha the La7 guy is a squeaker
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Raptor on February 03, 2007, 01:27:34 PM
Obviously wasn't someone from the 80th. We dont get kills, just proxies.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Bronk on February 03, 2007, 01:31:41 PM
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Originally posted by Raptor
Obviously wasn't someone from the 80th. We dont get kills, just proxies.


Well qiut flying them into the ground and shoot em.:D
What has changed?

I know you can do it. You bastages have shot me down enough times.
:aok

Bronk
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Oldman731 on February 03, 2007, 01:45:13 PM
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Originally posted by pluck
vultch fight! vulching is lame, especially when just padding scores, not trying to take a base.  complaining about vulching is lame, complaining about someone else complaining about you vulching is very lame.  switching countries to settle the dispute involving vulching, lame, with elements of coolness.  whining on the bb about the whole incident, hilarious.  that's my take on the whole matter.

Mine, too.

- oldman ("base suppression"?  give me a break)
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: bzek74 on February 03, 2007, 02:05:13 PM
There are select people in here that sit and wait for the vulch drooling in the tower waiting on vh to repop *cough ltars* and they are damn good at making sure only half the vulchs get landed. Each person has a different play style. For every element in this game theres a offense and defense. Teamwork and communication are key.  If someone decides to express themself in a manner that upsets you ignore,report, or squelch them. Dont feed into the BS.

90prf
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: crockett on February 03, 2007, 02:13:38 PM
I'll telll you what really pisses me off, is when you work hard taking down the ack and GVs so you can vulch in peace.

Then some clown comes along and kills the FH's...
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Atoon on February 03, 2007, 02:42:06 PM
everybody loses in this situation-


But the biggest loser is the guy who was so miffed about not getting his
'fair share of vulches" that he switched sides & upped an elgay7 JUST to kill you. This is indeed a sad example of just how far people are willing to go to ruin someone elses fun.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: hubsonfire on February 03, 2007, 03:09:05 PM
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Originally posted by The Fury
i thought the idea of the game was to surpress the enemy not give your enemy a chance?


:rofl
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: 4XTCH on February 03, 2007, 03:40:17 PM
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but it does add good humor to the night!! :rofl


You Got that right!!:aok :aok :aok
Entertainment like that is truely priceless @ 14.95 a month

4XTCH
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: DadRabit on February 03, 2007, 03:45:17 PM
S!

u did good fury and you have every right to be ticked but nothin you can do about it cept to drive on and remember.  as far as the vox thingy goes, i hear yas.  sum folks dont understand that there maby something going on where the other person cant hear another player or something else may be going on.  too much temper tantrums lately.  let it go sir.  dont let it eat you up.

S!
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: sveno on February 03, 2007, 05:28:01 PM
i was with fury there, and it wasn't classic "vulching", we where taking bases.

if a base is deacked and capped, upping from there is suicide. letting them up is not an option, espicially not b24 buffs. i would expected to be tracked and killed by all nearby crafts if i would up there.

fury's post is about a guy, who was angry about not getting the kills when attacking starting planes at a capped field. changing sides and investing time to kill the others fun in revenge is offtrack in my opinion.

please do not flame fury. he's a great guy when you know him, sometimes triggerhappy tho :D

Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: The Fury on February 03, 2007, 05:36:29 PM
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Originally posted by Atoon
everybody loses in this situation-


But the biggest loser is the guy who was so miffed about not getting his
'fair share of vulches" that he switched sides & upped an elgay7 JUST to kill you. This is indeed a sad example of just how far people are willing to go to ruin someone elses fun.


Thats my point exactly, thnx Atoon :aok

hehe Sveno i thought all The Few were trigger happy :D

im ok now :aok

Thnx for all the responses

All:)
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: The Fury on February 03, 2007, 05:38:45 PM
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Originally posted by crockett
I'll telll you what really pisses me off, is when you work hard taking down the ack and GVs so you can vulch in peace.

Then some clown comes along and kills the FH's...



I Agree :O
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Bubbajj on February 03, 2007, 05:52:53 PM
Vulch fighting is fun. When I'm not trying to see how well I can score, I'll up in a zeke with no fuel knowing I'm going down in the hopes that I can snatch a snapshot and send one of them som-bishes back to the hanger. When the fighter hanger goes down I'll up in attack planes. I've even tried to get bombers up so I can shoot with all the bomber guns. It's a hoot trying to ruin a vulcher's sortie. YEEEEE HAAAAAAAW!!!!!

I do agree that the prettythangclown that changed sides to shoot you down is a complete and utter sweetheartBAG. He, of course, would have no problem vulching till the sun comes up if he was making out like a bandit. What a whiney pathetic little hypocrit.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: SuperDud on February 03, 2007, 08:05:54 PM
I'm glad he killed you.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Saxman on February 03, 2007, 08:36:04 PM
What, Fury stealing all your vulches too? :D

Guys, just remember something: It takes two to vulch. Don't up from capped fields and you won't be.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Oldman731 on February 04, 2007, 12:11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Saxman
Guys, just remember something: It takes two to vulch. Don't up from capped fields and you won't be.

It also takes two to fight.  Let him up, and you have an opponent.

- oldman
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Raptor on February 04, 2007, 12:42:02 AM
Be that as it may.... how many does it take to change a light bulb?
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: ROC on February 04, 2007, 12:49:02 AM
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how many does it take to change a light bulb?


Why this push to change the bulb?  Did it ever occur to you that he simply may Enjoy just Being a light bulb?
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Raptor on February 04, 2007, 12:52:03 AM
But he's not the sharpest cookie in the shed
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Saxman on February 04, 2007, 01:19:47 AM
I do if I want an even fight. Which btw, I PREFER large fights with plenty of targets (and friendly cover, as well).

But if I'm trying to capture a base, anything goes. If the ack's down and some guy wants to roll 20 times even though he doesn't make it a foot off the runway? That's his choice.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: ROC on February 04, 2007, 01:49:50 AM
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But he's not the sharpest cookie in the shed


Which has Nothing to do with "all the tea in Cuba" so I don't know what you mean.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Simaril on February 04, 2007, 06:30:45 AM
You guys just don't know how to have your cake, and still get up on the wrong side of the bed.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Simaril on February 04, 2007, 06:33:28 AM
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Originally posted by Oldman731
It also takes two to fight.  Let him up, and you have an opponent.

- oldman



Nice things about letting them up first:

1. They still have no chance, but its not a vulch
2. Minimizes killshooter risk
3. Offers that extra satisfaction of knowing you've let hope blossom, only to crush it without mercy

:aok
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: storch on February 04, 2007, 07:51:56 AM
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Originally posted by Simaril
Nice things about letting them up first:

1. They still have no chance, but its not a vulch
2. Minimizes killshooter risk
3. Offers that extra satisfaction of knowing you've let hope blossom, only to crush it without mercy

:aok
many times I've been able up in an La7 and then systematically clean up 3-5 scrubs who think as you do.  to their horror I also kill teh goon.  :aok
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: navajoboy on February 04, 2007, 08:41:45 AM
word is the lgay was hubs.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: bozon on February 04, 2007, 09:20:20 AM
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i pm`d him and asked why he changed sides he responded with "to kill you"

That is the best reason for switching teams. I can't see what he did wrong.

OK using an La7 for that is gay, but gayness is no crime.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Raptor on February 04, 2007, 01:06:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Simaril
You guys just don't know how to have your cake, and still get up on the wrong side of the bed.

We just take the road to find our way out of a paper bag.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Kazaa on February 04, 2007, 01:37:37 PM
Well Fury I would forget about it if I where you, the guy got pissed and hunted you down because he brought the wrong plane to the pre-emptive kill fest.

, Kaz.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Simaril on February 04, 2007, 03:08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Raptor
We just take the road to find our way out of a paper bag.


That makes it all clear -- thanks for the heads up. Shoulda remembered how the frying pan looks before  the fire leaps and is hesitatingly lost!
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: Gwjr2 on February 04, 2007, 03:53:27 PM
Hmm seems to me like this tactic was used before.....

Pearl Harbor Raid, 7 December 1941 --
Attacks on Airfields and Aerial Combat

Military and Naval aircraft at Oahu's airfields were second only to battleships among the Japanese target priorities, though the reason was different. While Pearl Harbor's battleships represented American strategic "reach", and had to be eliminated to safeguard Japan's offensive into Southeast Asia and the East Indies, Oahu's aircraft had to be taken out for a more immediate reason: to protect the Pearl Harbor attack force. U.S. fighter planes, if they could get into the air in any numbers, would be a serious threat to Japanese bombers. U.S. Army bombers and Navy patrol planes potentially imperiled the Striking Force's invaluable aircraft carriers.

The Japanese first attack wave therefore assigned many fighters and bombers to airbase supression, the fighters to set planes afire with machine gun and cannon fire and the bombers to wreck them with high explosives.  The second attack wave also had airfield strikes among its tasks. Wheeler Army Airfield, in central Oahu, was Hawaii's main fighter base. It was heavily attacked. Of some 140 planes on the ground there, mainly P-40 and P-36 pursuits, nearly two-thirds were destroyed or put out of action. A similar proportion of the B-17, B-18 and A-20 bombers at Hickam Army Airfield, adjacent to the Pearl Harbor Navy Yard, was also wrecked or damaged enough to keep them grounded. Many men were killed at Hickam when the Japanese bombed their barracks.Smaller Bellows Field in eastern Oahu was also hit, destroying several P-40s, including two whose pilots courageously attempted to take off in the teeth of the enemy onslaught.

U.S. Navy and Marine Corps air stations on Pearl Harbor's Ford Island, at Ewa to the west of Pearl and at Kanoehe Bay near Bellows Field, also received concentrated attention from the raiders. Ewa's aircraft complement, mainly carrier-type bombers and fighters, was reduced from nearly fifty operational planes to less than twenty. Ford Island and Kanoehe, home to several squadrons of long-range PBY patrol seaplanes, were massively attacked, with Ford Island losing about half its planes and Kaneohe all but a few.

 These very successful Japanese strikes thus prevented any significant aerial opposition, though the few Army fighters that got airborne gave a good account of themselves. Later on December Seventh, surviving bombers and patrol planes were sent out to search for the Japanese carriers. They found nothing and confronted considerable "friendly" anti-aircraft gunfire when they returned to their bases.

So vulch away its a real and tested tactic.
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: The Fury on February 04, 2007, 07:09:07 PM
Rofl

Cool post Gwjr2 :aok

LOL Kazaa love the way we like to call it Pre-emptive kills :D

Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: tailblues on February 04, 2007, 07:46:37 PM
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Originally posted by storch
many times I've been able up in an La7 and then systematically clean up 3-5 scrubs who think as you do.  to their horror I also kill teh goon.  :aok


So this is yet another reason that we have to vulch a La7 as soon as we see it on the rwy. :) Don't give it any speed, any altitude! gee...  IMO, It is really cool and hard thing to up in a nmy capped field to get rid of those fighters.  I usually got shot down, frustrated, and come in 10k from a distant field. ... well.

Vulch is part of the game. ain't it?  I just try to avoid it as much as possible, cz I'm usually the prey, not the hunter. :lol
Title: Is this guy out of order?
Post by: morfiend on February 05, 2007, 09:04:53 PM
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Originally posted by bj229r
betcha the La7 guy is a squeaker
:lol :lol :lol :rofl :rofl :rofl


Lost it when I read that.....::o :aok
Title: Re: you must be joking
Post by: TalonX on February 06, 2007, 09:06:39 PM
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Originally posted by storch
this is exactly what is wrong with the game.  he thinks he did a "damned fine job of deacking and now he deserves to vultch"  pathetic.  I consider vultching pathetic and the other player slightly moreso than yourself.


Like the HO, I am tired of people crying about being vulched.  Don't up a capped field.  Simple.

If you do, and I do often, expect to be killed.   If I get up, great, if not, I don't cry about it.

Vulch me all you can.