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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on February 05, 2007, 07:17:26 AM
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Prince.
Last night he looked like Aunt Jemima on crack with that syrup cloth on his head.
How do you go from the Rolling Stones to Prince in just one year? That's probably why last years Super Bowl was the 2nd most viewed Super bowl in SB history.
The commercials were not as funny as last year either, IMO.
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There was a half-time show?:confused:
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I didn't see any commercials that were funny at all.
Princess sucked!
She is the ugliest girl I've seen since the ******** Chicks. :D
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Anyone into Prince probably really enjoyed the halftime show, although I thought the shadow thing where his guitar looked like a massive stylized double noodle was a bit unnecessary for a prime-time show. Yea it totally fits his entertainment personality, but sheesh, there's kids watching. Even some of the older military dudes I was watching with went "ewww" when they showed that.
I'd rather see Janet Jackson's boobies than a shadow of Prince with a 2 ft long phallus anyday :confused:
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keep on forgetting how good of a guitar player prince is. not too technical, but it rocks.
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I worked and missed it, but I don't watch them anyway. U2 halftime show during SB XXXVI I watched, even have it on DVD and watch it from time to time.
Even though 9/11 was a great tragedy, in the aftermath was a strong sense of unity and patriotism. That halftime show captured all of that, it was something the whole family could watch. The end where the victims of TWC rose into the sky(as if to heaven) and Bono revealed the American flag in the lining of his jacket brought a strong sense of pride, conviction in our values, and patriotism.
It wasn't about selling sex, grabbing crotches, showing boobs, just about being a proud American and American values.
Even the SB itself, as the underdog Patriots would be the first team to forgo individual introductions for the starters and come onto the field as a team(something done on a regular basis now). Then rising up and playing the game of their lives to win a game no one thought they had a chance to on a walk off field goal(as time expired).
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I do not care for Prince but I thought his performace in the cold pouring rain was very good
Purple Rain in the down pour and the fireworks were very enjoyable to the wife and I
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I just didnt get the whole prison ***** getup he had going there...
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Originally posted by Waffle
keep on forgetting how good of a guitar player prince is. not too technical, but it rocks.
If you looked closely, he was not playing, it was pre-recorded (according to more knowledgeable blogs out there that analysed the whole thing). So yeah, he does have skillz, but pre-recorded skillz in a studio ("damn, screwed up, lets do a re-take...1,2, 3....")
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I caught only the last part, but have to give a lot of credit to putting on a show that elaborate, complete with massive electronics and fireworks, in the rain. Talk about The Show Must Go On!
Quite a spectacle. However, the Thunderbirds flyover in the dark seemed wasted, but hopefully it was more impressive at the stadium than on TV.
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I beg to differ rip..
if it was prerecorded, I believe with the rain they wouldn't have switched out guitars unless he was actually using them. They would've used an old beater guitar that if it got damaged, it wouldn't matter.
check out the prince superbowl press conference / concert on youtube. :)
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The first time I heard Purple Rain, some stripper was dancing to it in the Downs Lounge. I like Princes music because of the time of my life it reminds me of. I was partying heavy then. It was before the time when you start telling yourself "maybe I should slow up a little" and you get a little responsible. Just party like no tomorrow, still feeling immortal. Ohhh and Apollonia. She was a good reason to like Prince :)
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Originally posted by Waffle
I beg to differ rip..
if it was prerecorded, I believe with the rain they wouldn't have switched out guitars unless he was actually using them. They would've used an old beater guitar that if it got damaged, it wouldn't matter.
check out the prince superbowl press conference / concert on youtube. :)
you could tell he was playing, if you play guitar and were watching.
he sure ****** up a few times, and made it sound like crud.
also got to question his song choice in that "montage" :confused: :huh still saying WTF on some of those.
I know with all his new "religion" and being a Mormon or whatever (Jehovah's witness? ) he won't do certain songs from his past like cream and stuff, but I think there were some other song choices he could have made
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
If you looked closely, he was not playing, it was pre-recorded ...
no way
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I believe he was playing. But leading men in bands often have a backup guitarist to play the lead guitar role so that they can dance around and do what they want.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
If you looked closely, he was not playing, it was pre-recorded (according to more knowledgeable blogs out there that analysed the whole thing). So yeah, he does have skillz, but pre-recorded skillz in a studio ("damn, screwed up, lets do a re-take...1,2, 3....")
Ummmmm......absolutely not. I'm a guitar player and really picky about supposed "live" shows that are just studio engineered pieces. Whitney's national anthem was one of those studio feats.....
Prince was definitely live. There were times were open strings were ringing, notes were missed or held, and also when he knocked the mic over and you heard it thud on the stage before they muted it. You can't time that stuff out perfectly if it was pre-recorded. Absolutely live, not Memorex
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I enjoyed the halftime show more than I did the game. Prince actually is still capable of being both a musician and a performer. Was actually refreshing, in a rather unimportant way.
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Originally posted by Cougar68
Whitney's national anthem was one of those studio feats.....
Say WHAT?
:eek:
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The humid conditions in Tampa in 1991 contributed to Whitney Houston's decision to go with the recording, and it's that performance that remains "the benchmark," notes producer Rickey Minor, who's working with Beyoncé.
http://www.inside-whitney.com/coranto/news-archive-1-2004.html
It's a long article about Beyonce getting ready to do the anthem, but the above quote is in there. There are several references to it being pre-recorded if you Google it. That doesn't make it any less moving of a rendition, but it helps to keep in mind it wasn't pulled off live.
Speaking of which, did anybody catch Billy Joel's version? Whoever was running his pitch correction needs to be fired. That was pretty blatent use of the squeeze box from someone that I've always had the utmost respect for as a musician.
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how did they keep all the electronics from shorting out in that rain?
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The guitar's wireless system and wireless mics work off of DC current which will work fine if it's getting rained on. They probably won't ever get used again, but it would survive the show. Most professional quality gear can handle getting a bit wet as long as you're not dealing with power amps and such.
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More importantly .... how did Prince keep his mascara from smearing?
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Originally posted by myelo
More importantly .... how did Prince keep his mascara from smearing?
spray on lacquer?
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He uses Cover Girl.
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half time was better than the game.
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Its my opinion that anyone man that likes Prince music (original stuff) is either a homosexual, or has homosexual tendencies....not that there is anything WRONG with that...:huh
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Its my opinion that anyone man that likes Prince music (original stuff) is either a homosexual, or has homosexual tendencies....not that there is anything WRONG with that...:huh
This is funny.
Prince actually writes far more songs for other performers than he sings himself. He writes for all music genres, and is probably the most prolific songwriter today in the business, with thousands of songs published, and many more of his own work he has not released that he was not happy with. He plays most of the various instruments on all his albums. He's the poster child of the workaholic in the music industry.
Even if you don't like Prince, or his music, chances are some of your favorite songs have been written by him.
Got to give the Devil his due.
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Originally posted by tedrbr
This is funny.
Prince actually writes far more songs for other performers than he sings himself. He writes for all music genres, and is probably the most prolific songwriter today in the business, with thousands of songs published, and many more of his own work he has not released that he was not happy with. He plays most of the various instruments on all his albums. He's the poster child of the workaholic in the music industry.
Even if you don't like Prince, or his music, chances are some of your favorite songs have been written by him.
Got to give the Devil his due.
I'll take your word for it, it appears you ahhhh. *ahem* know him better than I do, and I'd like to keep it that way. :lol :p
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Its my opinion that anyone man that likes Prince music (original stuff) is either a homosexual, or has homosexual tendencies....not that there is anything WRONG with that...:huh
Yeah, that makes complete sense. Kinda like saying that anyone who would carpet their garage so their beemer is comfy at night is a mid-life crisis nutjob.
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Originally posted by Mightytboy
I didn't see any commercials that were funny at all.
Have to disagree here:
I liked the Blockbuster Total Access one with rabbit and guinea pig trying to figure out the "mouse" to get online.
Garmin Navigation Maposaurus was funny, but I'm old enough to remember Sunday mornings with cheesy Japanese monster movies, to appreciate how they did that one.
My favorites have to be the "tribal" CareerBuilder.Com commercials during the pre-game as well as the game. Especially the "Darts, Jungle, Training Seminar" one that can be seen at YouTube.
Also, the Bud Rock-Paper-Sissors, and Emerald Nuts, and a couple of the Coke commercials (Video Game and Side of Life) weren't too bad.
But, you be the judge:
http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/postseason/superads (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/postseason/superads)
or
http://www.youtube.com/superbowl (http://www.youtube.com/superbowl)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOVJx_HAr0
If you don't look directly at his face it's a good video and great song haha
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The rock-paper-scissors made me laugh.
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Never equated what Prince does with music.
Porn maybe, but not music.
A "musician" can fling his hand willy-nilly up and down the strings, hitting every note on the scale, being in perfect control the whole time....and the end result is still merely amplified, disharmonic racket....not music.
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Originally posted by tedrbr
Prince actually writes far more songs for other performers than he sings himself. He writes for all music genres.....Even if you don't like Prince, or his music, chances are some of your favorite songs have been written by him.
He don't write bluegrass, and he don't write Hank.
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Originally posted by Shuckins
A "musician" can fling his hand willy-nilly up and down the strings, hitting every note on the scale, being in perfect control the whole time....and the end result is still merely amplified, disharmonic racket....not music.
You're trying to deny his talent by saying that you don't like his music. It doesn't matter if you like his style or not, you can't deny that he's talented at what he does. There are lots of bands that I don't like but I have to admit they're talented at what they do. Personal taste does not equal bad music.
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Holden,
Damn straight!
Regards, Shuckins
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
He don't write bluegrass, and he don't write Hank.
Neither does Pink Floyd and they're ok , in fact they're great!!!!:D
dang loonies on the grass again
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What I'm saying, Cougar, is that he's not a musician.
These are musicians:
Beethoven
Bach
Mozart
Al Hirt
Floyd Cramer
Patsy Cline
Henry Mancini
Max Steiner
Johann Strauss
Merle Haggard
John Phillip Sousa
Bing Crosby
Marvin Gaye
Sam Cooke
Lou Rawls
Chet Atkins
And there are a lot more who produced HARMONY....not noise.
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Originally posted by Shuckins
What I'm saying, Cougar, is that he's not a musician.
These are musicians:
Beethoven
Bach
Mozart
Al Hirt
Floyd Cramer
Patsy Cline
Henry Mancini
Max Steiner
Johann Strauss
Merle Haggard
John Phillip Sousa
Bing Crosby
Marvin Gaye
Sam Cooke
Lou Rawls
Chet Atkins
And there are a lot more who produced HARMONY....not noise.
What about Metallica, Steve Vai, Dave Matthews, Pink Floyd, The Doors, etc.? Would you call them musicians?
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Prince is a great guitarist. Whether you like his style or not his talent is obvious. Check out this performance at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction cerimony from last year. It blew me away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILDGkKqFLoI
-Oh, and I'm definately not a homo...
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Its my opinion that anyone man that likes Prince music (original stuff) is either a homosexual, or has homosexual tendencies....not that there is anything WRONG with that...:huh
:aok
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Originally posted by Shuckins
What I'm saying, Cougar, is that he's not a musician.
These are musicians:
Beethoven
Bach
Mozart
Al Hirt
Floyd Cramer
Patsy Cline
Henry Mancini
Max Steiner
Johann Strauss
Merle Haggard
John Phillip Sousa
Bing Crosby
Marvin Gaye
Sam Cooke
Lou Rawls
Chet Atkins
And there are a lot more who produced HARMONY....not noise.
So you don't care for polyphony?
What about homophony? ( and no, thats not Prince music :D )
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Homophony?
No thanks. Don't care for them at all. Mrs. Pinkus, my eleventh grade English teacher, drilled all that bilge about words with similar sounds but different meanings into my head until I was nearly crazy.
My psyche never fully recovered.
Besides, you're just trying to change the subject.
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Not trying to hijack, just a play on words with the Prince/gay contention.
homophony -Musical texture in which one or more lines dominate and the others remain in the background.
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Shuckins, I asked this above but I guess it got lost.
What about Metallica, Steve Vai, Dave Matthews, Pink Floyd, The Doors, etc.? Would you call them musicians?
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Originally posted by sluggish
Prince is a great guitarist. Whether you like his style or not his talent is obvious. Check out this performance at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction cerimony from last year. It blew me away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILDGkKqFLoI
-Oh, and I'm definately not a homo...
totally incredible, especially prince...
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prince...? was he that funny looking guy on stage with the two hot chicks?
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What?! Have I got offer commentary on every group extant since the 60's?
I never enjoyed psychedelic rock or hard rock or acid rock or rap or any other form of "modern music" that emphasizes volume over substance.
If that's what butters-yer-bread, then knock yourself out. Makes no never-mind to me.
I enjoy many different styles of music....but I draw the line here.
Regards, Shuckins
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The point that I'm getting at Shuckins is that your problem with Prince isn't his talent but his style. The other artists that I listed are all widely recognized as being very talented but you dismiss them because you don't like the style of music. Frankly I don't care for those artists either, but I can admit they're talented.
All I'm saying is don't dismiss his talent because you don't like his style. That's all.
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Originally posted by sluggish
Prince is a great guitarist. Whether you like his style or not his talent is obvious. Check out this performance at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction cerimony from last year. It blew me away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILDGkKqFLoI
-Oh, and I'm definately not a homo...
Had not seen that... WOW!
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Did I mention that from a psychological stand point, that closet homosexuals will defend Prince until they turn blue?
Just saying...:D
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Did I mention that from a psychological stand point, that closet homosexuals will defend Prince until they turn blue?
Just saying...:D
Actually Rip I think the correct color would be purple...
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Originally posted by sluggish
Actually Rip I think the correct color would be purple...
:rofl
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Did I mention that from a psychological stand point, that closet homosexuals will defend Prince until they turn blue?
Just saying...:D
I thought the closet homo was the one that stood in the middle of the room and accused everyone else of being gay? Face it Rip, you didn't like Prince because it raised some unfomfortable feelings in the pit of your tummy.
If you want to have a serious discussion let me know. If you want to throw "homo" out to anyone that disagrees I'll let you talk to the 8 year old down the street.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Did I mention that from a psychological stand point, that closet homosexuals will defend Prince until they turn blue?
Just saying...:D
Nah homo's like photography..
:D
Well homophotos do
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Originally posted by Cougar68
I thought the closet homo was the one that stood in the middle of the room and accused everyone else of being gay? Face it Rip, you didn't like Prince because it raised some unfomfortable feelings in the pit of your tummy.
If you want to have a serious discussion let me know. If you want to throw "homo" out to anyone that disagrees I'll let you talk to the 8 year old down the street.
A serious discussion on a gaming BBS? :lol :rofl :lol :rofl
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Seriously, anyone remember Appolonia? She was the chick that played Prince's girlfriend in Purple Rain. She was HOT with a capital HOT. Whatever happened to her?
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Originally posted by BTW
Seriously, anyone remember Appolonia? She was the chick that played Prince's girlfriend in Purple Rain. She was HOT with a capital HOT. Whatever happened to her?
She cooled??
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I thought the Robert Goulet commercial took the cake.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1882077719
or the K-Fed
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1882185870
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Now these guys. Had Talent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyn1dztiKek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyn1dztiKek)
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Originally posted by BTW
Seriously, anyone remember Appolonia? She was the chick that played Prince's girlfriend in Purple Rain. She was HOT with a capital HOT. Whatever happened to her?
Wikipedia is your friend.
In the mid-90's she slowly returned into the show business and did guest appearances on the US TV shows "Sliders" (with Jerry O'Connell) and "Air America" (starring Lorenzo Lamas with whom she had previously starred together in "Falcon Crest" in 1986). She can often be seen on film premieres and media events in California.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Now these guys. Had Talent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyn1dztiKek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyn1dztiKek)
I was always disapointed that with the sheer wealth of talent within the Wilburys that all they did was make three and a half minute pop ditties.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Now these guys. Had Talent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyn1dztiKek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyn1dztiKek)
Aye...and its sad that Roy and George are no longer with us. :(
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As for Prince. He didnt do anything in that video that was any more special then say..
Glen Cambel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEklYPVeYwI&mode=related&search=)
did with twice as many strings
And no Im not a Glen Cambel fan LOL
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You guys are knocking the half time show?
Did you see the PRE game show?
That blew chunks. What marketing genius thought that the circus acts would even remotely cater to the Superbowl crowd?
Even if it was the right crowd, it was not a good show at all.
Tap
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Prince plays just about any instrument. Writes his own music and produces his own records/albums. If that's "gay" so's Bruce Springsteen.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Its my opinion that anyone man that likes Prince music (original stuff) is either a homosexual, or has homosexual tendencies....not that there is anything WRONG with that...:huh
I like Prince's music.
You're kinda secksuh.
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Originally posted by BTW
Seriously, anyone remember Appolonia? She was the chick that played Prince's girlfriend in Purple Rain. She was HOT with a capital HOT. Whatever happened to her?
Hehe... I remember when she was nobody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quAACZCrrys
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Heh, I know you'd bring out Mr. Money.
Sh-sh-sh-shakin'!!!
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Prince plays just about any instrument. Writes his own music and produces his own records/albums. If that's "gay" so's Bruce Springsteen.
Ok and other then 2 or 3 songs. How much of his stuff has been worth listening to? How many hits did he have?
Personally I never saw the great appeal of Springstein either.
I mean hes ok but I never considered him "the Boss"
Although according to all accounts of anyone I know or have heard of having encounters with him. Springstein is at least a pretty decent guy.
Example some time ago a guy around here was selling some sort of guitar. S'possed to be some sort of collectors item I forget what exactly it was.
anyway. He was having a kid and money was tight so he decided to sell it and put an ad in the paper.
He comes home from work and his wife tells him "Your never going to beleive who is here and wants to buy your guitar"
He asks "who" His wife tells him "Springstein"
He doesnt beleive her and goes upstairs and sure enough its Bruce springstein.
They get to talking and Springstein asks him why hes selling it. So he tells him the deal.
Without batting an eyelash Springstein gives him 3 times what the Guitar is worth and wishes him the best of luck with the baby
true story
Prince on the otherhand comes across as a pure a-hole
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Ok and other then 2 or 3 songs. How much of his stuff has been worth listening to? How many hits did he have?
Personally I never saw the great appeal of Springstein either.
I mean hes ok but I never considered him "the Boss"
Although according to all accounts of anyone I know or have heard of having encounters with him. Springstein is at least a pretty decent guy.
Example some time ago a guy around here was selling some sort of guitar. S'possed to be some sort of collectors item I forget what exactly it was.
anyway. He was having a kid and money was tight so he decided to sell it and put an ad in the paper.
He comes home from work and his wife tells him "Your never going to beleive who is here and wants to buy your guitar"
He asks "who" His wife tells him "Springstein"
He doesnt beleive her and goes upstairs and sure enough its Bruce springstein.
They get to talking and Springstein asks him why hes selling it. So he tells him the deal.
Without batting an eyelash Springstein gives him 3 times what the Guitar is worth and wishes him the best of luck with the baby
true story
Prince on the otherhand comes across as a pure a-hole
Regardless if he comes off as an a-hole, and so does Sting if you ever read Andy Summer's book, he is an incredible talent. There are plenty out there that are very talented but that doesn't mean everyone has like them. As for Prince, yes I am an admirer of him in a musical sense. As opposed to what's popular now and when Prince was popular I'll take 1999 or Purple Rain anyday of the week over just about anything out now. Same for Bruce. Bruce presides in the same rank of bad "good" singers as Tom Petty, Bob Dylan and Stevie Nicks. But he's still a hell of a musical talent. Regardless of the fact that he's an R&B artist he still is in the singer/song writer vein. But that's the beauty of music; different strokes for different folks.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Prince plays just about any instrument. Writes his own music and produces his own records/albums. If that's "gay" so's Bruce Springsteen.
I think alot of poeple have no clue just how many instruments he can play, just a "nautral" talent.
they may not like his personal "style" but is extremely talented none the less.
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Originally posted by Mustaine
I think alot of poeple have no clue just how many instruments he can play, just a "nautral" talent.
they may not like his personal "style" but is extremely talented none the less.
I agree. I am not an R&B fan at all but then I don't think Prince is exclusively R&B either. I mean come on, he played Bob Dylan/Hendrix and The Foo Fighters during the show. Hard to put him into just one genre for sure.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Ok and other then 2 or 3 songs. How much of his stuff has been worth listening to? How many hits did he have?
Hits?
Eeewww.... mainstream music is formulaic crap more often than not.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
A serious discussion on a gaming BBS? :lol :rofl :lol :rofl
Well I've had serious discussions before, but I guess I should've payed more attention to the thread starter. How about we just settle for a somewhat civilized discussion where a differing opinion isn't met with the cry of homo?
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I know it'll never happen but I'd love to see AC/DC do a halftime show. I last saw them in Sept. 2000 and was blown away by the amount of sheer energy they still have, especially Angus.
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Angus has always impressed me. Not a technically great guitarist, but man that guy can write some serious riffs.
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To me Prince is nothing more than a mediocre guitarist. He's got a few relatively simple yet flashy riffs that sound impressive to someone that doesn't play. He strings them together then rinses and repeats as neccesary. I thought the guy playing the strat in "while my guitar" was a much more talented player. Prince's approach: Hmm..a tribute to George Harrison...how can I make this all about me? Cue the simple flashy riffs that don't quite fit and and work that mojo baby! Just what George was all about.:rolleyes:
Not to say that he sucks (poor choice of words perhaps :D) but he's not all that either. I noticed he played a couple bars of "All Along the Watchtower" during the half time show. He made a wise choice to not play more. He wouldn't come off looking too good comparing himself to Jimi. Now that guy could play.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
I know it'll never happen but I'd love to see AC/DC do a halftime show. I last saw them in Sept. 2000 and was blown away by the amount of sheer energy they still have, especially Angus.
now THAT would be a halftime show befitting of the Super Bowl
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Originally posted by DblTrubl
I noticed he played a couple bars of "All Along the Watchtower" during the half time show. He made a wise choice to not play more. He wouldn't come off looking too good comparing himself to Jimi.
What about Dylan? You know, the guy that wrote the song. :)
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Yes I'm fully aware that Dylan wrote Watchtower and Like a Rolling Stone both of which Jimi covered. He was a big Dylan fan. But...who do you think of first when someone mentions those? How about Hey Joe? Wild Thing? Johnny B. Goode? I associate them with Jimi more than their authors. If you pick up a Strat and play Watchtower I think a lot of folks are going to immediately draw comparisons to Hendrix.
Or are you asking my opinion of Dylan's guitar playing? Slightly better than his singing. Great songwriter though.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Did I mention that from a psychological stand point, that closet homosexuals will defend Prince until they turn blue?
Just saying...:D
And they also buy large yellow trucks to compensate.
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I forgot to mention that when Prince was doing his shadow thing how I thought he was trying to look like the devil with a tail and horns holding his banana.
Looks like I wasn't the only one.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250581,00.html
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Originally posted by sluggish
. Check out this performance at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction cerimony from last year. It blew me away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILDGkKqFLoI
Thank you Sluggish for this little gift, I had never seen it and as a Harrison fan since his debut I found this performance, (by all the musicians involved) to be a thrilling and fantastic tribute to the man.
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didn't see the show. i think Prince is weird, but the little guy is a real professional and he knows how to maintain a life-long career
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Originally posted by Cougar68
Well I've had serious discussions before, but I guess I should've payed more attention to the thread starter. How about we just settle for a somewhat civilized discussion where a differing opinion isn't met with the cry of homo?
Probably because a significant number of males suffer from an acute homophobia, due in part to a lack of confidence in their own sexual prowess, not being secure in their own heterosexuality, or resulting from some experience in their past, with a family pet, or farm animal (which still glares at them accusingly when they come into view), which they've never been able to come to grips with.
It's very sad really. You guys need help.
I, fortunately, am not afflicted by such. I grew up in the country with about a dozen farm girls as neighbors (...good times....fun times.....). And I'm much too big a fan of:
( o ) ( o )
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Originally posted by tedrbr
I, fortunately, am not afflicted by such. I grew up in the country with about a dozen farm girls as neighbors
translation>>> hey, hey , look at me, i grew up with a bunch of farm girls so i CAN'T be gay, but all you guys are homophobes.<<
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actually the word "homophobia" is a misnomer, phobia means fear, they don't fear gays , they just think a man having sex with another man is disgusting.
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OK so Rip is a Homophob scared by his closet attraction to prince LOLH.
And Shucking doesn't know ****e about rock and roll if it fell on his head.
I am not a Price fan, but I do respect his ability and most would know that his music makes most chicks nuts!!
Plus how cool any guy that throws out Bob Dylan/Hendrix and The Foo Fighters kicks arse!!!
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Originally posted by john9001
actually the word "homophobia" is a misnomer, phobia means fear, they don't fear gays , they just think a man having sex with another man is disgusting.
It's the strong overly defensive, knee-jerk, reaction or puffed up displays they put on that leads me to believe it is a "phobia". ie: "A phobia (from the Greek φόβος "fear"), a strong, persistent fear of situations, objects, activities, or persons. The main symptom of this disorder is the excessive, unreasonable desire to avoid the feared subject."
It is hi-ar-i-ous to watch at times. Very entertaining.
Then there is the near habit or tagging anything they don't like or disprove of as "gay". That is a little disturbing, but I'm not a qualified psychologist to analysis this aspect.
As to the break from the original thread and reference to Prince:
Personal Life. Prince became one of Jehovah's Witnesses in 2001 reportedly to satisfy his mother's dying wish.[28] He has since worked some religious themes into his music. Prince married Mayte Garcia, on Valentine's Day, 1996. They had one son, rumored to have been named Gregory. He was born with Pfeiffer syndrome, a rare skull disease and died shortly after birth. Their marriage was annuled in 1998. He and his current wife, Manuela Testolini Nelson, (whom he married in 2001) filed for divorce in May 2006.
I may be wrong here, but generally gay men don't repeatedly marry women do they? I could be wrong, I don't know.
Am I a Prince fan, or a fan of the music he plays? Not really on either account, but I can respect the talent and abilities of the performer. I acknowledge that some of the songs from some of my favorite artists may have been written by the man. The ability to play nearly any instrument he picks up. At least a thousand songs written to have made the charts in Pop, Rock, Country, among other genres?
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Originally posted by tedrbr
Probably because a significant number of males suffer from an acute homophobia, due in part to a lack of confidence in their own sexual prowess, not being secure in their own heterosexuality, or resulting from some experience in their past, with a family pet, or farm animal (which still glares at them accusingly when they come into view), which they've never been able to come to grips with.
It's very sad really. You guys need help.
I, fortunately, am not afflicted by such. I grew up in the country with about a dozen farm girls as neighbors (...good times....fun times.....). And I'm much too big a fan of:
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Or it could siomply be because they find the very thought of what gays do to and/or each other utterly disgusting
Not a thing wrong with being homophobic.
Not a thing wrong with liking or disliking a person, or group for any reason whatsoever so long as you do not act out against said persons.
This whole thing about homophobia or homophobia being somehow a bad thing is nothing more then an attempt at thought control.
Its PC BS pure and simple.
As a human being you have the natural right to like or dislike anyone you choose for whatever reason you choose.
what you dont have the right to do is take active harmful action against those you do not like.
In short. You have to tolerate them.
but you dont have to like them
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Originally posted by mars01
Plus how cool any guy that throws out Bob Dylan/Hendrix and The Foo Fighters kicks arse!!!
There is a very good reason he did that - :aok - and not simply just to do them.
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Originally posted by Shuckins
Never equated what Prince does with music.
Porn maybe, but not music.
A "musician" can fling his hand willy-nilly up and down the strings, hitting every note on the scale, being in perfect control the whole time....and the end result is still merely amplified, disharmonic racket....not music.
I have to interject on your opinionated, UNEDUCATED remark since it only goes to show what little you do know about music. You are obviously biased to certain genres and therefore the mindset stays very narrow.
Now I'm not a big Prince fan, but I do know he is one of the most talented guys out there. And his credits prove that: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:nye997q7krgt~T4
I certainly am not a big Hank Williams fan, but i can appreciate what he did as a songwriter. Now if he spent more time writing, and less time drinking and screwing everything that moved, he would've accomplished much more.
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Dammmm I missed the commercial with the Mouse being squeezed... seen a bit afterwards... does anyone have a Link to it? I really need to catch up...The Link Pleeez
Mac
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dood, just search "super bowl" on youtube :)
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Originally posted by Black Sheep
There is a very good reason he did that - :aok - and not simply just to do them.
For those interested:
The Foo Fighters covered ' Darling Nikki' on a previous album without permission from Prince. Granted they didn't need permission due to the writers first use clause, but he was miffed regardless. Thus Prince covered the Foo's song, AND played it less than 30 seconds on air, stripping the Foo's of any royalties and sync fees. :lol
Not that Prince needs the money, but he still made roughly $500,000 from them covering Darling Nikki.
http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/prince%20slams%20the%20foo%20fighters
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Youngsters, I was around for the birth of Rock and Roll....before it morphed into Rock and the various permutations that arose after the 1960s. That evolution has not been a pretty one.
I shouldn't have to like every form of music ever devised to meet your definition of "open minded." I summarily reject any song or "music" genre that is characterized by cursing, juvenile fascination with sex and bodily fluids, and mindlessly repetitive musical scores and lyrics. While this does not condemn all modern rock it DOES condemn almost all rap, which garners the same amount of contempt from me as does the mindlessly repetitive "choruses" of modern religious music.
While my musical training isn't extensive, I wouldn't call it meager either, and leans toward vocal harmony....a dieing art form in today's world.
I keep hearing a lot about Prince's "talent." Well sirs, in my admittedly biased opinion, talent abused is talent wasted. If Michelangelo had used his considerable talent for sculpture to create a statue of an erect phallus ejaculating....well, THAT would be an abuse of that talent...and a total waste.
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Originally posted by culero
dood, just search "super bowl" on youtube :)
Thanks...found it.
BlockBuster Mouse Click (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVC1Dg1TC8s)
Too Funny
:rofl
Mac
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If you're so worried about boobs, dicks and *******, send them all here we know how to use them. :D
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like 60's and 70's music wasn't filled with tounge-in-cheek innuendos and other sexual references.....:huh
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well if he played the Foos for spite, then all these guys are right Prince is an stunninghunk LOLH.
Don't worry shucking put your head back in your hole it will be all right. :aok
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I wouldn't say he was an a** about it - they apparently patched things up and had a good laugh BEFORE he played the Super Bowl.
Shuckins, It's basically apples and oranges in preference to music - but even out of the 40's Big Band era, you end up with the founder of sexual innuendo and live gyrations: ELVIS
I'm assuming you instead listened to some good ole Jim Nabors :)
It's been around man - so don't blame today for today's music. I've noticed that as I get older, the less I can associate with the current sound of pop culture. And I'm only 34. I have a bit of bias as well, but I give all forms of music a chance.
As for harmonies, there are tons of artists that can pull it off today, just as the 90's 80's 70's 60's 50's 40's. . .
Ask and I'll turn you on to some good clean rock. Or country. Or jazz. Cheers.
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as I get older, the less I can associate with the current sound of pop culture.[/B]
Me also.
I turn 50 tomorrow. Haven't watched TV in 2 1/2 years except 10 days of Olympics and Pope John Paul II's Funeral Mass.
I don't think for one moment I've missed anything worthwhile.
Regards,
hap
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Black Sheep...you're right, it is an apples and oranges thing, at least as far as personal taste goes. Also, Ole Swivel Hips certainly pushed the limits of vulgarity in the 1950s, and certainly there was sexual innuendo in much of the music of the 1960s. Yet, I think we can both agree that such innuendo is light years behind some of the lyrics to be heard in today's music. NOTHING is left to the imagination. It's not only grossly vulgar....it's pornographic....and a total turnoff to anyone with even a modicum of good taste...and good sense. Regards.
Hap....I know what you mean. The wife and I rarely watch tv anymore. The latest sit-coms are about as funny as listening to a bunch of seventh graders tell dirty jokes. I've outgrown that. If there isn't an old, classic movie on....we watch The Closer, Law and Order re-runs....or the History Channel. Even the modern cartoons on the Cartoon Channel are achingly stupid or 3-frames-per-second Manga. Quality has left the scene. Regards.
Waffle....As I said to Black Sheep, sexual innuendo is a far cry from what is found in modern music....and that is why the modern stuff, as exemplified by Prince is a total turnoff and waste of talent on his part. If you enjoy it, fine by me. As for me, it makes my skin crawl. Regards.
Mr. RiplEy [H]....Sorry, I have none to spare. :D Regards.
mars01....If you wish to argue the merits of your favorite music you should take notice of the class with which the gentlemen listed above debated the merits of my views. Engaging in insults is crass, boorish, and generally in bad taste. A gentleman would not use such tools of argument...so with that in mind, I have only one thing to say......
.....Bite me!
:rofl
Ah me! I crack me up!
Regards, Shuckins