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Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Guppy35 on February 05, 2007, 06:26:37 PM

This is Johnny Godfrey's second B model Mustang.  natural metal but still with the red checkerboard.  I really like the look and it might make a good addition to the B ponies.

I did the profile.  Image from a book I have.

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Guppy35 on February 05, 2007, 06:27:22 PM

The profile.  I have a decal set that includes the markings as well as their profile if you'd prefer that one.

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Fencer51 on February 05, 2007, 08:17:07 PM

Wow, imagine the coincidence, I am working on the P-51B template that I started way back in Sept-Oct 05.

I think that one might be worth doing!

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Treize69 on February 05, 2007, 08:22:51 PM

(http://80thfs.homestead.com/jawdrop.gif)

Still wanna see a properly done Salem Representative, but oh my damn thats a beauty!

BTW- what book, I have never seen that image before. :cry

Person who gets that accepted get an autographed photo of me holding Godfreys autobiography. :D

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Guppy35 on February 05, 2007, 10:34:09 PM

Book the image was in is called "Fighters of the Mighty Eighth" by William Hess and Tom Ivie.

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Treize69 on February 06, 2007, 07:57:17 AM

Just bought a copy, god bless e-bay. :aok

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Fencer51 on February 06, 2007, 10:27:06 AM

Don't think I have that book... huh.

Treize,

I saw a post from you in another thread (I would post there but thread policeman Krusty might get upset) about Salem Representative.  It could be argued that it is the most famous P-51B ever.

Could you elaborate on your point about that skin?

I was going to do it as the guy who had started it let it set for months, I contacted him and he then did finish it and submitt it.  
What is the unwritten rule on duplicating skins, ie submitting on a skin which is already in the game?  

Let's take Fester for example.  If he wanted to redo my Cripes A'Mighty 3rd I would not object, its the skin that matters not who did it, IMHO.  Yet I get the impression that this view might not be shared by other skinners.

Comments all?

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: rogerdee on February 06, 2007, 10:37:05 AM

Personaly I think if some one does either  a skin that is already done or submitts  a skin the same as some one else the better skin should be the one that is put in the game.

 I know that i have done  a few skins for one particular plane and have taken up some slots for skins,but i wouldnt object if any of my skins were redone or even deleted from the game if it allowed  a superior skin to be allowed in the game.


Failing that it would be good if with the four arenas we could have four lots of skins,ok so it would take  a lot of space but you dont have to download all the skins and you dont have to have your system show others using skins only the one u are using.
   The problem would be the amount of space taken on the servers i guess

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Treize69 on February 06, 2007, 10:42:16 AM

Issue 1-

Its Purple. This may be just my settings or something, but thats just freaky.

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Treize69 on February 06, 2007, 10:45:26 AM

Issues 2-

All the time spent putting the right individual markings on (the noseart and name on the gear door, thats done well), but the tail markings don't match up from side to side.

first shot...

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Treize69 on February 06, 2007, 10:46:52 AM

Image 2, same issue but on the H-stabs.

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Treize69 on February 06, 2007, 10:55:09 AM

Plus IMO we need a 4th B/C in D-Day stripes, might as well be the best looking one.

And I agree with Roger, the best version of a skin should be the one in the game. I any of my skins get accepted and someone submits a better version of the same, I wouldn't mind in the least to see it replaced. Most of us seem to do these to fill in a gap or to see our favorite plane in the game, not to see our names in the hangar. (Not saying that about MachNix, just stating my opinion on the matter)

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Guppy35 on February 06, 2007, 11:03:25 AM

Noooooo!  Not more D-Day stripes!  They just didn't wear em that long, at least the upper wing and fuselage stripes.

I love Salem Rep, but if it's been done without the D-Day stripes or is redone, keep it without.

Still think Godfrey's with the checks is worth doing btw.  Crisp clean look and even though it's a May 44 bird, would still look ok with a September 44 bird

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Treize69 on February 06, 2007, 11:53:36 AM

Need a striped B to go with Goodsons striped D. Nothin like a matched pair.

BTW- sorry to anyone if I seem nitpicky and irritable today (both in here and in the arena), I've spent the day going in and out the door shoveling chest deep (and I'm 6'4') snow in 5 degree weather and 20mph winds. Tends to ruin ones mood a bit. What a way to spend the start of my vacation! :cry

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Fencer51 on February 06, 2007, 12:06:24 PM

Shouldn't have waited until it was chest deep! :rofl :rofl

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Treize69 on February 06, 2007, 12:07:33 PM

I shoveled at midnight and it wasn't snowing, got up at 8:30 and couldn't see out the front door. :p

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Fencer51 on February 06, 2007, 12:43:58 PM

Wow, we have gotten 3 inches in 3 hours and the place is going nuts with accidents.  Don't think we could handle your snowfall.

Thank goodness for global warming or you would be totally screwed! :noid :O :aok

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Krusty on February 06, 2007, 05:26:31 PM

First 2 consecutive days over 50 degrees in 7 weeks, here.

The first blizzard was 7 weeks ago. We STILL have that ice on our streets. It almost just barely started melting a couple of weeks ago (DOT crews went out clearing storm drains in anticipation) but then it snowed again. Almost every Friday, it seems. Anyways, we've got a week of 40-60 degrees (FINALLY) and hopefully it'll melt the stuff that's been blocking folks here for almost 2 months.

You have my sympathies, but I've already been there, already did that. I don't wish to repeat it :)

EDIT: Oh, and as for the skin, when you make the skin get all the panel lines to meet up on wings, fuselages, etc, and when you place markings you can use the panel lines as reference (10 pixels from the nearest panel line, for example). That will get you within 1-2 pixels lineup on the edges with stripes and such.

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Frodo on February 09, 2007, 09:49:48 AM

I am glad to have the Kidd's skin in the game. The purple color is a little strange.

Would like to see the Kidd's P-47 also.

Added a couple other P-51's also.

Salute to all the work the skinners do!

Some pics to help out.:D

Frodo

(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/hofer47.jpg)

(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/HoferP-47.jpg)

(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/mejohnyshoferthen.jpg)

(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/hoferthen.jpg)

(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/milli.jpg)

(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/missoiri.jpg)

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Fencer51 on February 09, 2007, 10:37:53 AM

His P-47D is in the game. 334th FS/ 4th FG.  Its the one with the red around the stars.

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Treize69 on February 09, 2007, 11:08:34 AM

Ummm...

Missouri Mauler is a different pilot, as is Missouri Armada (says "Capt. J.B. England" right on the canopy rail). Armada isn't even from the same Group, its 357th.

And as Fencer said, "Missouri Kid/Sho-Me" is one of the 4 4th FG P-47D11s, along with Blakeslee, Beeson and I think Capt. France (Its "Miss Dallas", right? I forget ATM).

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Fencer51 on February 09, 2007, 11:41:36 AM

Yes it is Miss Dallas.  One from all three time periods of insignia and Blakeslee's thrown in for history's sake.

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Guppy35 on February 09, 2007, 12:18:13 PM

Missouri Mauler is Willard Millikan's Malcom hood B model from the 4th FG.  He went down to flak in it in May 44.

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Frodo on February 09, 2007, 03:34:11 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Guppy35
Missouri Mauler is Willard Millikan's Malcom hood B model from the 4th FG.  He went down to flak in it in May 44.

Armada is John England's P-51. The first 4 pics are the Kidd's planes. Any chance of getting whitewalls? :D

Sorry, I didn't go into more detail, I was in a hurry.

Frodo

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Treize69 on February 09, 2007, 04:11:12 PM

The Hofer 51B in game has whitewalls.

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Frodo on February 09, 2007, 04:19:41 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Treize69
The Hofer 51B in game has whitewalls.

Wow, I didn't notice that. Thanks for the info.

Frodo

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Treize69 on February 09, 2007, 10:47:25 PM

Oh, and my apologies, its TexMurph did that skin, not MachNix. Was looking at the wrong 334th/4th skin on the webpage.

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Treize69 on February 12, 2007, 03:04:51 PM

Hey Dan, according to the profile shown in "The Warlords vol. 1", Godfreys silver B had the kills displayed in two rows of Balkenkreuz, not the multiple swastikas. I've not got any photos of it to confirm either, just passing it along. Do you have photos? (stupid question)

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Fencer51 on February 12, 2007, 03:17:53 PM

That book any good Treize?

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Treize69 on February 12, 2007, 03:37:33 PM

Definitely givin me some ideas for skins... :D

Has virtually every aircraft that can be identified from the 4th, 20th, and 55th FGs. But some (like this one) are different from other sources I've seen, so I don't really know which way to go with it.

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: MachNix on February 12, 2007, 05:02:15 PM

(http://www.wildandfreed.com/ah/vf-p1.jpg)
I had a few hours to kill so I put this bird together so you could see what it would look like in the game.  It would take several more hours to get the skin up to a suitable level for submission. I don’t think the skin would look too hot at anything other than at the 1024 texture level.  Since the Bs are full and unless someone at HTC says they want this Mustang in their stable, I’m not going to spend any more time on her.

Title: Fencer51. Godfrey's second B model
Post by: Krusty on February 13, 2007, 11:20:41 PM

I totally misunderstood the thread when I made my last post. I thought Treize was building a NEW skin, not showing the flaws in the OLD skin. Sorry about that.