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Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Laurie on February 06, 2007, 03:44:29 PM
http://www.1000aircraftphotos.com/APS/2918.htm

NIce looking plane, not as nice as its predeccesor the spitfir but pretty 'spiteful' looking.

Think it might be a decent addition to RAF planset.
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Karnak on February 06, 2007, 04:17:31 PM
No combat, post war, not very good, not needed.

Sorry.
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Debonair on February 06, 2007, 05:49:58 PM
Mk.21
gimmy sum pwn
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Guppy35 on February 06, 2007, 09:30:07 PM
Spit 21 at least served operationally with 91 Squadron and saw limited combat.
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Mace2004 on February 06, 2007, 10:02:57 PM
Looks like what would happen if a Spitfire mated with a Mustang.
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: DiabloTX on February 06, 2007, 11:46:37 PM
More like 'Spitesmurfy'.
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Ball on February 07, 2007, 01:23:25 AM
More like Spitfugginfast.

Cancelled development because of the Jet engine and it wasnt needed.  Could do 494 mph if i remember rightly.

A development of it was made for the Royal Navy, called the Sea Fang, but that lost out to the Sea Fury.
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Debonair on February 07, 2007, 02:35:20 AM
i bet 494 is a pretty high Mach number at the altitude they got that speed at.
i looked a bit on the net, but couldn't find a reference to the altitude that goes along with that speed, though...:mad: :mad: :mad: :noid
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Kev367th on February 07, 2007, 03:09:34 AM
As mentioned before, never saw combat.
Cancelled when it was realised that with the advent of the jet age, the laminar flow wing didn't give enough of a increase to be worthwhile developing further.

Spit F.21 did though, and would be a worthwhile perked Spit as opposed to the XIV.
446mph @ 22,600ft and 4x20mm of luv.

(http://www.raf.mod.uk/history_old/images/spit_f21.jpg)

http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit21.html
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Bruv119 on February 07, 2007, 03:42:20 AM
mmmm 4 20mm on a spit.

Kev wasnt there a spitmkIX C  with 4 20 mm?  maybe a perk ammo loadout option.
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Kev367th on February 07, 2007, 04:06:20 AM
Never seen a IX with a 4x20mm loadout, Mk V's did get them though.

The 4x20mm on the IX was an option, but problems with heating the outer guns seemed to stop the option actually being used.
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Ball on February 07, 2007, 11:59:03 AM
Theoretically any spit with the universal wing could have carried quad 20mm.
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Kev367th on February 07, 2007, 12:03:27 PM
Yup, but only the Vc ever seemed to.
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Debonair on February 08, 2007, 01:58:11 AM
Mk.21 also
and all the postwar seafires...
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Kev367th on February 08, 2007, 02:53:03 AM
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Originally posted by Debonair
Mk.21 also
and all the postwar seafires...


Yeah but the F.21 and later had redesigned wings. (see pic earlier)

The only ones with universal wings that ever seemed to carry the quad 20mm option were the Vc's.
Oh, and a couple of Aussie Mk VIII's.
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Angus on February 09, 2007, 04:07:26 AM
The Mk 21 had contra-rotating props and lots of fuel as well as the quad 20mm. With a good top speed, absence of torque, crazy climb, heavy firepower and long endurance it would be a nightmare for most of AH's planeset :D
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Nilsen on February 09, 2007, 05:41:50 AM
We need more spitfires! :lol
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Angus on February 12, 2007, 02:56:15 AM
Yeah, both the clipped XII and the 21 :D
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Debonair on February 12, 2007, 04:48:49 PM
was just at the bookstore & saw a book i want RED STAR AIRACOBRA (http://www.amazon.com/RED-STAR-AIRACOBRA-Memoirs-Memories/dp/1874622787) - cause books by soviet pilots are rare (i'vve only got two of them) - but not for $50:mad:
while there i was looking through some of the pictre books & saw a photo of an HF Mk.VIII with the four 20mm guns...then i found this on teh 'net
(http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spitfirehfviii-ads.jpg) :O :O :aok :aok :aok :cool:
Title: Supermarine spiteful
Post by: Kev367th on February 12, 2007, 06:28:45 PM
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Originally posted by Angus
The Mk 21 had contra-rotating props and lots of fuel as well as the quad 20mm. With a good top speed, absence of torque, crazy climb, heavy firepower and long endurance it would be a nightmare for most of AH's planeset :D


Very few of the F.21's had contra-rotating props.
Most were Griffon 61 or 62, the contra's used Griffon 85.

They were more likely to be found on the Naval versions (Seafire 45/46) to counter the massive torque.

Main use of contra-rotating props was on the Seafire 47 which were fitted with 2,375HP Griffon 87 or 88.

Seafire FR.46

(http://www.vflintham.demon.co.uk/aircraft/spit/seaf8.jpg)