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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: sluggish on February 06, 2007, 06:00:17 PM
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What do you think his dad would have to say about that?
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I think you mean Dale Jarrett. Dale Earnhardt, Jr. signed a deal with DEI during the off season and will be with the #8 Chevy for at least 3 more years.
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Originally posted by rpm
I think you mean Dale Jarrett. Dale Earnhardt, Jr. signed a deal with DEI during the off season and will be with the #8 Chevy for at least 3 more years.
No. Earnhardt. I'm watching CNN Speed right now and they say it's still up in the air and a big secret.. I don't think he'll do it. He'd lose a lot of redneck respect.
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I can see that pansy arsed Gorden driving a tricked out ricer, but not Jr.
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Originally posted by Pooh21
I can see that pansy arsed Gorden driving a tricked out ricer, but not Jr.
yup
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Now that I've done some quick reading, seems he did'nt sign the deal with DEI yet.
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As stated by Max Siegel, DEI's head of Global Operations:
"With respect to contract negotiations with Dale Jr., I wanted to make it very clear that DEI has every intention of re-signing Dale to a long-term deal,'' Siegel said. "We're in good ongoing discussions and hope to announce something soon.''
After doing some research, there is nothing in print anywhere online that states that he is even thinking about driving a Toyota. I searched Nascar.com, CNN.com SI.com, and the Speed network. I think you have your drivers confused. Hell, Dale Jr. just did a couple of new commercials for Chevy. Wouldn't make alot of sense if he were in talks with Toyota.
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relax, it's not really a Toyota any more than a nascar chevy is a chevy or a nascar ford is a ford. All nascar cars are purpose built race cars, the only thing they have in common with real cars is the name plate.
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When they go to the "Car of Tomorrow" it really won't mean that much at all.
I am sure Dale Earnhardt would have just told Jr. to go where he thought he had the best chance of winning a championship.
My 2 cents.
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Jr. is still arguing with his Step-Mom. No contract as of yet.
Dale Jarrett is racing for Toyota.
Dale Jr. is checy...will stay Chevy.
If he doesn't get a deal done before the end of this season with DEI , look for him to be driving for RCR ( Richard Childress Racing) next year.
Would be interesting to see Jr. and Harvick on the same team.
Also , so the nascar rumor mill has it , RCR will break out the black #3 possibly if Jr. were to end up there.
Jr. is Chevy tho.....Toyota prolly would LOVE to get him...but until he is done with this season , from what I read , he is in a chevy.
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Originally posted by RedTop
Also , so the nascar rumor mill has it , RCR will break out the black #3 possibly if Jr. were to end up there.
It would be the marketing coup of the century.
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Come to Formula 1, and beat the best drivers in the world. Be world champion.
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Toyota builds the frame, but it's still old tech... push-rod V8s. Nothing revolutionary or exciting about it. In fact, iirc, Toyota actually uses Chevy engines.
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Originally posted by senna
Come to Formula 1, and beat the best drivers in the world. Be world champion.
I've been to F1 races, and there's just something missing from it. I guess when you're driving a $75 millon car, you just don't take a whole lot of risks. Rather boring IMO
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Originally posted by Helrazr1
I've been to F1 races, and there's just something missing from it. I guess when you're driving a $75 millon car, you just don't take a whole lot of risks. Rather boring IMO
Open-wheel & thousand pound cars vs closed wheel, 3k+ pound cars...
F1 is more impressive for pure speed and performance.
Nascar is a fist fight with cars.
Both have their own appeal :)
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Wave a big enough check in front of him and he'd race a Yugo....... :lol
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I'd love to see the hatemail those Toyota guys are going to receive.
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Originally posted by senna
Come to Formula 1, and beat the best drivers in the world. Be world champion.
And fall asleep? What a boring waste of time.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
And fall asleep? What a boring waste of time.
maybe it's boring to watch because they are such good drivers.
the nascar fans wait for "the big one" where you have a 15-20 car wreck.
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Originally posted by indy007
Toyota builds the frame, but it's still old tech... push-rod V8s. Nothing revolutionary or exciting about it. In fact, iirc, Toyota actually uses Chevy engines.
Not true, Toyota has their own engine program. They are building the engines themselves. Granted it has to follow the NASCAR rule book just like any other manufacterer but it is all Toyota. From the information that I have been able to glean Toyota is going full guns on this program. IIRC the just had to modify the design of the cylinder head as the port runnner length didn't meet with NASCAR specifications.
SIK1
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Originally posted by john9001
maybe it's boring to watch because they are such good drivers.
the nascar fans wait for "the big one" where you have a 15-20 car wreck.
Yeah and in F1 you don't have to wait at all the big one happens on the start.
SIK1
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On a real quiet night in Daytona, you can hear the Chevy's rusting.
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Originally posted by john9001
maybe it's boring to watch because they are such good drivers.
the nascar fans wait for "the big one" where you have a 15-20 car wreck.
Thats a matter of opinion... I happen to feel a lot of the Nascar Drivers are better. But in reality, I rarely watch it anymore because I do not have the time.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Thats a matter of opinion... I happen to feel a lot of the Nascar Drivers are better. But in reality, I rarely watch it anymore because I do not have the time.
F1 drivers race in the rain, nascar drivers won't go on the track if there is a heavy dew.
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Racing Food Chain:
Top: World Rally Championship
Next: F1
Everything else
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Racing Food Chain:
Top: World Rally Championship
Next: F1
Everything else
i go with that, those rally drivers are crazy, they race in rain, snow, mud, on their roofs, on little two lane roads.
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(http://www.bustedtees.com/bt/images/BT-boringnascar-gallery-6.jpg)
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Originally posted by john9001
F1 drivers race in the rain, nascar drivers won't go on the track if there is a heavy dew.
oooooohhhhh aaaaaaaaaaahhhhh so.:huh
Have the F1 guys run on ice with spiked tires. Then I would watch.:D
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Originally posted by john9001
F1 drivers race in the rain, nascar drivers won't go on the track if there is a heavy dew.
Nascar drivers are smart enough not to go in the rain.:lol
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Originally posted by indy007
Toyota builds the frame, but it's still old tech... push-rod V8s. Nothing revolutionary or exciting about it. In fact, iirc, Toyota actually uses Chevy engines.
Absolutely wrong. The Toyota is not even close to a Chevrolet SB2.2. The Toyota most closely resembles the Chrysler engine. I have seen all of them apart.
As for old tech, the average NASCAR engine makes well over 2HP (almost 2.4) per cubic inch, with a very simple engine. They have 358 cubic inches and make in excess of 850HP.
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Formula One is best described as a race to see who can spend the absolute most money, automate the most number of processes in the car, and kill or maim the most drivers.
The average Top Fuel dragster or AA/Fuel Coupe engine makes 17.4HP per cubic inch, as a rule they are the fastest accelerating vehicle in the world, nothing wheel driven even comes close.
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F1 is a joke. They are hyperautomated machines with tiny prettyboy drivers. Take a driver out of F1 and put him in NASCAR, he finishes in the 30's. Do they even have 30 F1 teams?
F1 can't run the sustained high speed tracks that NASCAR does, that's why they have short straightaways and 6 speed gearboxes. NASCAR can run twistytracks, but the tracks are so narrow that side by side racing is almost non-existant.
The race I want to see is NASCAR "rally" style. Nevada or Arizona would be perfect for that race.
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Wow,lotsa oppinions here.
Would like to point out that F1 use 7 speed trannies these days,as for high speeds,well there has to be some compermizes.They could set the car up for high speed but it wouldn't turn as good,in tests F1 cars have topped 220mph,even 240 mph has been seen. F1 is the pinicle of auto technology.Engines turn over 20,000 rpm,that means the pistons stop and start 40,000 times a minute.The tires are cutting edge tech. aswell.
Why dont you see the top Nascar drivers in F1??? simple,they couldn't make the lineup. This is not to say they arent great at their sport,it's just totally different.
Many top NA open wheel drivers have tried F1,few have been successful,Little Al comes to mind...LOL.....
Is F1 as exciting as Nascar,probablly not. But look at the overall TV ratings,more PPL. tune into F1 races,in fact more see a single race than all nascar races combined,for a single year......
But racing is racing,I love it all,never seen a bad race,even F1 at Indy 2 years ago was still good to me.
Not everyone will agree and thats ok,I'm sure Shewie wont lose any sleep over it,having a matrest suffed with a couple hundred million will let ya sleep real good......................... .........
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F1 and IRL races barely generate any ratings in the US with the exception of the Indy 500. Is NASCAR even telecast outside the US?
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Originally posted by morfiend
Is F1 as exciting as Nascar,probablly not. But look at the overall TV ratings,more PPL. tune into F1 races,in fact more see a single race than all nascar races combined,for a single year......
I'd like to see proof of that.
I believe NASCAR is the #1 spectator sport here , with 30 plus races over the year. Prolly 100 to 200k at a race. MILLIONS of viewers each week.
To say that F1 gets more viewers in 1 race than NASCAR gets all year? Well....I'd say prolly not.
I would agree that no many U.S. guys have done all that well in F1. I don't remeber them having the backing that the home grown Euros have tho from the get go. Could be wrong here.
Juan Pablo Montoya is giving a ride to NASCAR. Lets see how he fairs this year. I for one am looking forward to watching him. Even if my Favorite driver will be bumping him out of the way when putting him a lap down. :lol I still hope he does well. I enjoyed watching him in F1 and the old CART Series.
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Originally posted by john9001
relax, it's not really a Toyota any more than a nascar chevy is a chevy or a nascar ford is a ford.
Relax, its not an American based company either. ;)
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Originally posted by rpm
It would be the marketing coup of the century.
The deal is, he wants a tangable piece of DEI, and not just a drivers cintract. Theresa is the holdup. Pretty dumb really, right about now , her lips should be the shape of his rear end. If he goes, Bud will follow, and effectively remove the largest money income share of DEI. Personally, I dont think he's going to be championship calibur untill either he leaves and joins a team that is, or the company is handed over to someone who can do something with it. Both financially, and in people allocation.
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I like all forms of racing, but find F1 lacks passing and the TV coverage is brutal, no replays and its over at the first turn.
NASCAR is great racing, lots of lead changes, and after 500 miles it often comes down to winning by inches.
IRL/CHAMP need to get back together as they are losing out dividing up the fans.
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what a bizaar pissing contest.
Really.
-Sik
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Originally posted by morfiend
Is F1 as exciting as Nascar,probablly not. But look at the overall TV ratings,more PPL. tune into F1 races,in fact more see a single race than all nascar races combined,for a single year......
Where are these ratings listed?
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The problem with DEI is not Jr., and it is not Theresa. The problem is Richie Gilmore, and Theresa's trepidation about either firing him or sending him back where he belongs, running the engine department. Steve Hmiel should have been given the job Richie Gilmore got. Gilmore is too arrogant and egotistical to even work with anyone else. He had a chance to work with RCR in a joint venture on engines, so they'd have the resources Yates and Roush have, and the idiot blew Richard Childress off. Now Childress has power and DEI is short 20 or more. And it has cost them a bunch of races. A bunch. Now the idiot can't go to RCR and make the deal. Sr. had already laid the groundwork for DEI and RCR to work together with the old RAD aero and chassis joint venture. Gilmore blew that off.
Gilmore got rid of Michael Waltrip, and thought he was keeping NAPA and all the associate sponsors. He thought he could brow beat Michael and treat him like a fool. Wrong answer, Michael left and took several million dollars worth of sponsorship money with him, and it even cost them money on the sponsorship deals they kept, because they don't get the air time any more. Jr. was seriously pissed at losing Michael, seriously pissed.
Gilmore was a great engine builder, and did a great job running the engine department, they had power. But he just plain sucks as a general manager, and now they're short of money, power, and talent. That's a shame, Sr. is surely turning 9000RPM in his grave over the stupidity that has wrecked DEI.