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Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: Minotaur on March 30, 2000, 12:07:00 AM
I can reset computer and then calibrate my joystick.  After running AH for about 1.5 to 2 hours the joystick output becomes extremely spikey.

I mean that I start out playing AH with rock solid lines on the AH joystick scope.  Then 2 hours later the scope lines are jumping all over.  The game is basically unplayable.

This happens the same with 2 new joysticks and/or 2 different gameports.  It don't matter how I configure them, sooner or later the spikes start.

This does not matter if the computor is left on for hours or not, as soon as I begin playing AH, 2 hours later the stick goes south.

After years of using analog joysticks and having no problems, what is the deal with this?  

I recently re-formated my C: drive, and re-installed Win98 and all drivers clean.  

Thanks in advance!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: indian on March 30, 2000, 08:40:00 AM
Mino I had same problem while back, mine turned out to be dirty pots but you have new sticks. I also found that I was hitting the trim wheel on the joystick which caused this alot. No idea for new stuff though.

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Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: Minotaur on March 30, 2000, 10:17:00 AM
Indian;

I suspected dirty pots, but had to discount that.  Two different analog joysticks a CH FigherStick and a TM FLCS.  The CH is new and the TM has new pots.

I have tried two different game ports, same thing happens in any event.  I start playing and the stick is rock stable.  Sooner or later it becomes unplayably spikey.

Thanks!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: Vermillion on March 30, 2000, 11:50:00 AM
What kind of gameport are you connecting thru? If it is a soundcard, I have heard that some brands are susceptible to overheating and that over time it heats up and degrades performance.

Just an idea.

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Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: Pyro on March 30, 2000, 01:49:00 PM
Does it go away if you recalibrate in AH?



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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
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Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: Minotaur on March 31, 2000, 12:13:00 AM
No Pyro...

The one thing that seems to work is unloading the joystick driver, then reseting the computor then reloading the joystick driver.

I thought about overheating Westy, but same thing happens with too seperate game ports.  One is a sound card the other is a TM ACM card.

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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: PC on March 31, 2000, 09:09:00 AM
Hey Mino, if you find out what's wrong, let me know. I have a whole CH setup that I can’t use for this every reason. It Gets better when I reinstall the joystick Drv but comes back slowing over a few hours.
IMO it's something to do with DX6 and higher as that’s when I noticed it first on another machine.

PC
Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: humble on March 31, 2000, 10:29:00 AM
I'm almost certain that this is a heat related problem mino...I'd look at your sound card 1st, then your vidio card. Are either running hot, or next to a component that is. Since it doesn't appear to be "time" dependent your CPU is probably not the problem...but AH will load up your sound and vidio card, especially if you have a GPU on board.

You can get a fan that plugs into a pci or isa slot. I'd put one right between your sound and vidio card and see if it helps.
Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: indian on March 31, 2000, 11:12:00 AM
Mino sounds Heat related but if you are useing CH products try the beta driver on the bottom of the driver web page or email me and  Ill send it to you.

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Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: Minotaur on March 31, 2000, 01:54:00 PM
Pretty sure that it is not heat related.  I have a tower case, an intake air fan and another fan that blows directly across my MB expansion card rack.  I seldom turn off my computor.

Thanks Indian I'll try that beta driver.

Did you ever solve the problem PC?  Currently I have Dx 6.2 installed, as I believe that comes on the Win98 CD that I have.

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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: Pyro on March 31, 2000, 07:06:00 PM
After hearing about Crab's problem, I'd suggest the video driver update.  It's worth a shot.



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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations

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Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: PC on April 02, 2000, 12:20:00 AM
No Mino, I did not. I did however get a new USB stick and have not had a problem since. The rudder that I use is still on the game port of the soundcard and still spikes. I have called SoundBlaster and spent hours on the phone with them to no avail. The Game port stick spikes in windows a little and did it in AW3, but here I couldn't fly with it.
My problem started when I went up from DX5.

I have no idea what to do to fix this, except go to USB.

I miss my CH Throttle.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
PC
Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: Minotaur on April 02, 2000, 01:00:00 AM
PC;

I gave up myself and went with a USB joystick.  

Guess what!  You can have your CH throttle and your USB joystick  by reading my post here (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/002467.html) on how to do this.  If you can't figure it out, contact me online and I will tell you how to do it.

Good Luck!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: Phil9 on May 24, 2001, 04:53:00 PM
Hello Minotaur, you dont know me but I have heard your gun sight is great for this game.  I have looked everywhere but seems none of the links work.  Can you please send me the webpage in an email?  Thank you
BigPhil109@aol.com
Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: Lephturn on May 25, 2001, 06:15:00 AM
Guys,

If you have a Soundblaster Live and a VIA chipset mainboard, go to http://www.viahardware.com (http://www.viahardware.com)  and download the 4.31 VIA 4-in-1 drivers and install them.

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Title: Joystick works fine then after running AH awhile gets very spikey
Post by: AKShrike on May 30, 2001, 05:22:00 AM
Wow this thread is interesting and quite confusing to me because I made many changes prior to experiencing this problem.  I have never had a problem with my CH setup until about a week ago and I'm experiencing the same problem that was discribed in the original post (F-16 FighterStick, Pro Throttle/Rudders and using the GameCard3).

I did recently install a scsi drive and my case is probably a bit hotter even with a case fan.  Guess I should work this first.

Ok moved my scsi hdd to a 5 1/4 bay with 3 small fans blowing on it and also intalled a second case which blows outward.  The problem appears to have gone away but occasionlly I'll receive uncommanded inputs when above 15k.  Strange.

The problem no longer exists now.  I have no idea if it was related to the 7.02 patch or if it was heat.  The changes came at the same time, however, I suspect heat was the cause.

Shrike

[ 06-11-2001: Message edited by: AKShrike ]