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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Chairboy on February 07, 2007, 03:35:05 PM
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Interesting article on the ADL website:
http://www.adl.org/PresRele/Extremism_72/4973_72.htm
The KKK is seeing record increases in its membership and has launched some campaigns to use the issues of illegal immigration and opposition to gay marriage to bolster membership even more.
I know these are two hot button issues here on the O'Club, thought some of y'all might find you have some interesting bedfellows on the issues.
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There is a petition going aroung Washington State to annull any marraige after three years if it does not produce children.
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LOL!!!
Children? Who wants em?
Guess my marriage would have to be anulled. Hmm...live in girlfriend...no responsiblity, not bad!
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it doesn't surprise me. I've been saying for years that the pendulum will swing in the other direction. I don't mean regarding solely homosexual issues either. I think people are generally fed up with the whole P.C. tyranny especially when it comes to dealing with any minority group. governmental intrusion into every aspect of daily life isn't helping matters either.
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Well, the main reason I see cited here for why marriage should only be between a man and a woman is because marriage is designed to create children, the 'annul if no children' requirement seems like a clever way to force the issue. If the objection is not about kids, then what _is_ it about?
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Here's a little trivia Q for you. Which state in the US has the largest KKK membership?
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Originally posted by storch
it doesn't surprise me. I've been saying for years that the pendulum will swing in the other direction. I don't mean regarding solely homosexual issues either. I think people are generally fed up with the whole P.C. tyranny especially when it comes to dealing with any minority group. governmental intrusion into every aspect of daily life isn't helping matters either.
Am i reading you right? Are you blaming people joining hate groups on the fact that they have been asked to treat others with respect, to not violate their rights based on race/creed/gender/sexual orientation, or put simply treat people with basic human dignity? Are you saying that's too much to ask?
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also thanks to china & walmart, white sheets are cheaper than evar:eek: :eek: :O :O :O :noid :noid :noid :noid
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I see a new Fed law coming, "No more the two white people may congregate with each other, communicate with each other in anyway or form".
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Here's a little trivia Q for you. Which state in the US has the largest KKK membership?
i'll guess.
alabama?
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I know that Oregon had a huge KKK membership back in the 20s, hope it's not here in my backyard, heh.
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I heard that a group of racist homosexuals is forming their own group: The Gay KK.
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Originally posted by DYNAMITE
Am i reading you right? Are you blaming people joining hate groups on the fact that they have been asked to treat others with respect, to not violate their rights based on race/creed/gender/sexual orientation, or put simply treat people with basic human dignity? Are you saying that's too much to ask?
No, you arent reading him right. He is refering to how the PC types have gone completely overboard and abusive with "political correctness". Some people can only take so much and the weak ones will find comfort in hating those they feel are to blame.
Anyone see the show about the history of the Klan not to long ago? If I remember there over 3 million members at one time. Maybe more.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Here's a little trivia Q for you. Which state in the US has the largest KKK membership?
Indiana?
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Originally posted by Debonair
also thanks to china & walmart, white sheets are cheaper than evar:eek: :eek: :O :O :O :noid :noid :noid :noid
Maybe, but the price of lumber and fuel are high, guess there won't be as many burning crosses this time around for the clan.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Here's a little trivia Q for you. Which state in the US has the largest KKK membership?
Pennsylvania
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Originally posted by Xargos
Maybe, but the price of lumber and fuel are high, guess there won't be as many burning crosses this time around for the clan.
Somewhere, someone is in their workshop considering how practical a portable burning cross is. A couple lengths of 2" metal pipe with lots of holes drilled in them, welded together into a cross shape and mounted to the top of a propane tank, it'd be the symbol of a new, environmentally friendly Klan.
Maybe the Klan will be just another fraternal group 50 years from now, without the same emotion attached to it. They'll have multi-racial membership (who can tell under those robes anyway?), have bake sales for local schools (the Grand Wizard Fudge and the Lynch-Mints cookies sell particularly well), it'll be like the Elks, except with costumes.
Or maybe not.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
I know that Oregon had a huge KKK membership back in the 20s, hope it's not here in my backyard, heh.
Very true. They had around 200,000 members in the 20s and the governor was a card carrying member. Southern Oregon & Northern Cali were an especially hot spot for the Klan. Medford had a "Sundown Law" where anyone of color could not be in town after sunset. The Klan ran out the one African American living there in the 20's.
Highway 99 still has a marker in northern California naming it the Jefferson Davis Highway, courtesy of the United Daughters of the Confederacy, May 1944.
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I find it funny how non-southerners are alway talking **** about us, yet they have more clan members then we do. Go figure.:lol
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Originally posted by Vipermann
Pennsylvania
Yup, the guy from Pennsylvania gets it.
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dynamite,
what I'm saying is that you cannot force people to behave in any way against their will or their prejudices. some folks are just ignorant but that is their right to be that way. attempting to force a bigot to treat someone in what you consider to be a socially acceptable manner will create backlash. that is what I believe is occurring. forced PC thinking attempts to do just that, to make a person behave and speak in a way they don't agree with and are uncomfortable with. you cannot do that it will not work, clearly it has not worked. couple that fact with the fact that black people (as an example) can behave disrespectfully towards anyone who is non black and get away with it and one can immediately empathize with white folks. the guy who might have been sitting on the fence of the racial issue/illegal immigration issue may choose to come down on the side of his group because he feels threatened.
I think that blacks are about the most overtly racist group in the nation and they are not called on it. blacks get a free pass from most folks. it seems to me that this negative behavior is applauded and reinforced especially by the extreme left which also controls the mainstream media.
I personally resent black people as a group because of what I perceive to be preferential treatment blacks as a group receive at the official level at the expense of all others. I resent the entitlement attitude many blacks exhibit. I resent so called black leaders for creating an us vs them mentality on the national level. I resent the exploitation of any racially sensitive issue being used as an excuse to further drive wedges between Americans by these same black leaders. I resent the democratic party for their support of these policies.
therefore it is no wonder to me that white people will band together in much same way the black people did to create (as an example) the national association for the advancement of colored people, a clearly racist organization. what would occur if I started an organization that excluded all other races? how far would I get? would I receive national prestige and recognition for starting a group called the national coalition for the advancement of white people? as long as special interest groups garner political clout and funding for perpetuating this behavior we will never rise above the differences. simply stated it's wrong. affirmative action is wrong and needs to be abolished. labling a crime as a hate crime is wrong and needs to be abolished. if a crime is commited a person's color, sexual preferrence, gender, nationality or religion should not be considered.
I hope that this rant clears it up for you a little bit. :D
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This is no surprise to me. The Klan as effective organization went out when the FBI infiltrated from the late 40's to the 70's. If they were to reorganize nationally with a clear, consistent platform and weed out those splinter factions, then maybe they could make a real resurgence. Unless that happens, they will always be a disorganized, aimless bunch o bubbas just like the FBI wants them to be.
The illegal immigration mess is an intentional failure of our federal government to do its job. To allow our nation to be invaded by tens of millions of parasites is nothing less than criminal. We have no clue WHO is coming across the border. It should have been done long before that, but for our safety it should have been shut down at least by September 12th, 2001.
I don't care if it's the Klan or whoever wants to do the job, someone must reverse this invasion and start sending them packing.
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If they are gonna guard they border thats good:aok
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Is it that time of year already? The evil white red necks are massing.
Any white guy not prostrating himself is suspect. Do you REALLY know your neighbor? He could be one. Don't trust anyone but Katie Couric!
The biggest threat to this country is not propaganda, its the secret society KKK.
Save the Katie, save the world.
:rolleyes:
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Did you know the original clan did not hate Jews? That was something that was added later when their numbers started to dwindle.
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You have to play to the crowd.
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Originally posted by DYNAMITE
Am i reading you right? Are you blaming people joining hate groups on the fact that they have been asked to treat others with respect, to not violate their rights based on race/creed/gender/sexual orientation, or put simply treat people with basic human dignity? Are you saying that's too much to ask?
It is too much to ask... a fairy tail world with respect, love, hugs and all that will never exist, ever. People hate each other, accept it.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
There is a petition going aroung Washington State to annull any marraige after three years if it does not produce children.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
There is a petition going aroung Washington State to annull any marraige after three years if it does not produce children.
Queue China's government sponsored abortions
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You're paranoid
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Originally posted by x0847Marine
It is too much to ask... a fairy tail world with respect, love, hugs and all that will never exist, ever. People hate each other, accept it.
If that "go with the flow" kind of sentiment was widespread 70 years ago hitler and his mob may have prevailed
there's a clear distinction between tolerating the existence (for the sake of freedom of speech for the masses) and accepting that neo nazi turds like the kkk and other wannabe nazi organisations around the world have the right to even breathe
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Well, the main reason I see cited here for why marriage should only be between a man and a woman is because marriage is designed to create children,
Idiots, someone should tell them that it's ****ing that creates children, not marriage.
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I think that you might find that most people in the US are against gay marriage (within the context of what is now marriage) and against illegal aliens not being stopped.
I think that you will find that only a very few Americans would join the KKK tho.
Most of the liberals claim to be against illegal border crossings. Does that put them in bed with the KKK?
lazs
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Originally posted by Excel1
If that "go with the flow" kind of sentiment was widespread 70 years ago hitler and his mob may have prevailed
there's a clear distinction between tolerating the existence (for the sake of freedom of speech for the masses) and accepting that neo nazi turds like the kkk and other wannabe nazi organisations around the world have the right to even breathe
Ohoh, Chairboy - Godwins Law!
Linen causes hysteria!! Run! Its a Martha Stewart sheet!!
Only those from the lite brite thread will get that.:huh
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excel's law states that goodwin's law is a load of bollox if the intention of goodwin's law is to exclude undeniable recent historical evidence that the actions of recent historical degenerates i.e. adolph+his mates can not be used as a guide to predicting the actions of contemporary degenerates of the same ilk i.e. kkk, national front and associated a-holes if they were ever given a turn in the drivers seat
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Originally posted by storch
therefore it is no wonder to me that white people will band together in much same way the black people did to create (as an example) the national association for the advancement of colored people, a clearly racist organization.
Well Albert Einstein a was friend of W.E.B Dubois, you'll proably not hear about it much, if you even know who W.E.B Dubois is, without running to google.
Jim Crow laws aren't exactly ancient history. Neither was the holocaust.
I don't think much of you frankly. I'd say more but I try to respect the board rules.
I think that you might find that most people in the US are against gay marriage (within the context of what is now marriage) and against illegal aliens not being stopped.
I think you have little idea what anyone thinks, or even what a bell curve really is. But that's just an educated guess.
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Men are protesting against gay marriage by wearing white robes?
I fail to see the logic behind this...
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Originally posted by BluKitty
Well Albert Einstein a was friend of W.E.B Dubois, you'll proably not hear about it much, if you even know who W.E.B Dubois is, without running to google.
Jim Crow laws aren't exactly ancient history. Neither was the holocaust.
I don't think much of you frankly. I'd say more but I try to respect the board rules.
I think you have little idea what anyone thinks, or even what a bell curve really is. But that's just an educated guess.
I see the brilliance of your argument. since jim crow laws are fundamentally immoral and injust then naturally it's perfectly acceptable to implement their equal against another race. don't call me frankly. you don't think much of me? why think upon me at all?
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Originally posted by BluKitty
Well Albert Einstein a was friend of W.E.B Dubois, you'll proably not hear about it much, if you even know who W.E.B Dubois is, without running to google.
Jim Crow laws aren't exactly ancient history. Neither was the holocaust.
I don't think much of you frankly. I'd say more but I try to respect the board rules.
I think you have little idea what anyone thinks, or even what a bell curve really is. But that's just an educated guess.
Weren't they both socialists? In the early - mid 20th century, socialists were much like the elite Hollywood Democrats of today. They did hang out together:D
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blu... do you think that jim crow laws were a bad thing? Do you admit that they hurt not only the targeted race but... in the end.. all of us? (gun control laws meant only for negroes were used against us all for instance)
Or.. do you think that jim crow laws were right but that they were just used against the wrong race?
lazs
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Originally posted by FiLtH
LOL!!!
Children? Who wants em?
no children = no future
very simple ;)
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Yup, the guy from Pennsylvania gets it.
Indiana on the other hand is the only State to be openly led by the KKK. Look it up.
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Originally posted by Excel1
If that "go with the flow" kind of sentiment was widespread 70 years ago hitler and his mob may have prevailed
There was a go with the flow attitude 70 years ago. Even the English Blue Blood Windsors (who were Old World Germans) didn't care about the Jews any more than the Americans did. And absolutely no one thoght the japanese invading nanking in 1931 was that much of an issue, either.
The wake-up call for Europe came when Hitler invaded Poland. Even that didn't piss the United States off until the Japanese paid us a visit.
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Well said Red Tail.
And the world is really no different now in that respect than it was in 1939, and probably never will be. As much as human society likes to pretend divinity, at the end of the day the only rules that matter are the laws of the jungle.
If there's one thing that history has taught us, from Poland to Isreal to Rwanda. It's that weaker countries can't depend on anybody else to protect them.
For some reason national defense allways gets overlooked in those national quality of life studies. How's denmark going to fend off a million bayonet driving boogeymen?
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Yup, the guy from Pennsylvania gets it.
I would've guessed Indiana with all of the rallies they have here. I live in Fort Wayne, and they hold all kinds of rallies at the courthouse. Makes for a riot just about every time, getting the KKK and the minorities together always creates sparks. Now when they have them, the City and County SWAT teams have to be there.
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
There was a go with the flow attitude 70 years ago. Even the English Blue Blood Windsors (who were Old World Germans) didn't care about the Jews any more than the Americans did. And absolutely no one thoght the japanese invading nanking in 1931 was that much of an issue, either.
The wake-up call for Europe came when Hitler invaded Poland. Even that didn't piss the United States off until the Japanese paid us a visit.
It’s along time since I read Galland's book "the First and the Last" but from memory he makes a comment along the lines that if a German invasion of Britain from the continent had of taken place and been successful the commonwealth countries would have remained a threat to the occupation. And by saying that, I think Galland was trying to minimize the importance of the Luftwaffe’s failure to defeat the RAF because he must have known that the chances of the rest of the commonwealth liberating Britain were probably zero. The war could have been effectively over in 1940
My point is that despite the appeasement and indifference to the rise of fascism in Europe in the 1930's I believe there was enough awareness and repulsion of the nazis through that period to give the added steel to Britain's defence in 1940 and help avoid defeat.
But I think you have a good point. My original comment is thin, and hardly a shining example of collective harmony. But at least we still won.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Idiots, someone should tell them that it's ****ing that creates children, not marriage.
Marriage is for raising children. Anyone with a lick of sense can see that on the average people who grew up with a caring mother and father who were married to each other are happier and better adjusted than those who did not. Of course there are exceptions.
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Lukster, then what's your objection to the Washington law being proposed that if couples don't produce children within 3 years, the marriage is annulled?
Can't have it both ways. "Gay's can't marry each other because marriage is about children. Straights can marry and not have children."
The law won't (and shouldn't) pass, but making the argument I put in quotes above is terribly hypocritical. Just admit you don't want gays to marry each other because it's religiously objectionable or you don't like 'em. It'd be refreshing to see some honesty, even if we still disagree.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Lukster, then what's your objection to the Washington law being proposed that if couples don't produce children within 3 years, the marriage is annulled?
isn't that what the king did, no heir, you chop off her head?
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Lukster, then what's your objection to the Washington law being proposed that if couples don't produce children within 3 years, the marriage is annulled?
Can't have it both ways. "Gay's can't marry each other because marriage is about children. Straights can marry and not have children."
The law won't (and shouldn't) pass, but making the argument I put in quotes above is terribly hypocritical. Just admit you don't want gays to marry each other because it's religiously objectionable or you don't like 'em. It'd be refreshing to see some honesty, even if we still disagree.
Who is proposing such a stupid law?
I need not follow your rules in believing what the purpose of marriage is. I wasn't clear, children are not the only reason for marriage.
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So, then are you ok with gay marriage, Lukster?
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Originally posted by Chairboy
So, then are you ok with gay marriage, Lukster?
I am by nature sorta anti-social Chairboy. I lean towards live and let live and believe that our current government is far too invasive into our lives. With that said, I am not ok with being gay at all. However, it's not my place to tell someone else how they should live.
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chair... I am not against gay marriage but I am against them piggybacking on to established marriage..
Let em get their own and fight for any bennies associated with their own.
They don't want to be married... they want tax breaks and health care and bennies.. they are very dishonest about this for the most part.
We have given the bennies to man and woman marriage (rightly or wrongly) because we felt that it was a benifit to us... they have the potential to breed and raise the nations youth.
rightly or wrongly, they earned it... the gays have done nothing but spread disease and guilt. gay marriage won't raise their birth rate or lower their aids rate. All it can do is cost taxpayers money.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
chair... I am not against gay marriage but I am against them piggybacking on to established marriage..
Let em get their own and fight for any bennies associated with their own.
They don't want to be married... they want tax breaks and health care and bennies.. they are very dishonest about this for the most part.
We have given the bennies to man and woman marriage (rightly or wrongly) because we felt that it was a benifit to us... they have the potential to breed and raise the nations youth.
rightly or wrongly, they earned it... the gays have done nothing but spread disease and guilt. gay marriage won't raise their birth rate or lower their aids rate. All it can do is cost taxpayers money.
lazs
how can they not be dishonest. they would have us all believe that un natural sex is natural. it is a dishonest group by difinition.