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Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: cav58d on February 08, 2007, 01:07:46 AM
How do you feel about Nancy Pelosi jet setting across the friendly skies in an over the top B757, when the G-III she was offered would more than suffice?

Any outrage?
Title: Surprise!
Post by: moot on February 08, 2007, 01:45:59 AM
It's outrageous that politicians suck. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE)
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: lazs2 on February 08, 2007, 09:52:14 AM
politicians opt out of social security... they ride around in limmos.. they are protected 24 hrs a day by sub machine gun toting bodyguards.

they have nothing to do with the laws that they pass for us little people to live by.

I would imagine that they don't wear their seatbelts while being driven around either.

lazs
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: 68Hawk on February 08, 2007, 10:36:12 AM
For once I think I completely agree with Lazs
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: midnight Target on February 08, 2007, 11:08:23 AM
It's outrageous that these stories are started with almost no basis in fact.

Nice try though.
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: Toad on February 08, 2007, 11:18:09 AM
Are you saying she didn't request a 757?
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: midnight Target on February 08, 2007, 11:53:57 AM
She requested nothing at all. Her staff made an inquiry into the "ride plan" that Hester had since 9/11, and asked about a plane that could make the flight to California non-stop. Republicans took this request and blew it completely out of proportion.
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: Toad on February 08, 2007, 12:01:10 PM
So this Pelosi quote is incorrect?

(From ABC)
Quote
"It's not a question of size, it's a question of distance," Pelosi said Wednesday. "We want an aircraft that can reach California."


Sure seems she is asking for the 757.
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: Shamus on February 08, 2007, 12:20:39 PM
I think that she could fly commercial and Hastert should have as well, but I have been told by many that this is the post 9/11 world and that I just dont get it.

Hastert got his own plane post 9/11 for security purposes, so states the article I read.

Non stop is more secure than refueling, so I guess in this era of mitigating all risk no matter what the cost, she needs the big plane.

shamus
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: midnight Target on February 08, 2007, 12:25:04 PM
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Originally posted by Toad
So this Pelosi quote is incorrect?

(From ABC)


Sure seems she is asking for the 757.


Is that the only plane available that can go that far non-stop?
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: Toad on February 08, 2007, 12:29:39 PM
This is 89th MAW; they can refuel at any military facility. I don't think that's too much of a security risk.

Further, she'll probably get the C-37A/Gulfstream 5 which will make it to SF no problemo. IF it's available; the 99th AS has 4 of them at Andrews.
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: midnight Target on February 08, 2007, 12:32:51 PM
If the C-37A can make the trip it would seem that Pelosi isn't asking for a 757 after all.

I accept your apologies.
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: Toad on February 08, 2007, 12:42:35 PM
LOL.

Not just yet, I'm afraid.

I'll wait a bit and see if any more details on the request by Pelosi's staff surface, I think.

It could be a Republican smear/talking point, granted. Wouldn't surprise me.

Nor would I be suprised in the least if a Limo Liberal from SF felt she was entitled to special treatment for herself and her many friends.

Let's let it stew a week and see what rises to the top. Then maybe you'll get an apology. Or maybe not. (Although it's unclear to me why I should apologize; are you against being curious about this stuff?)
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: midnight Target on February 08, 2007, 12:54:02 PM
I just collect 'em... it's a hobby.
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: Toad on February 08, 2007, 12:56:12 PM
Maybe I'll start then.

So if it turns out Pelosi wanted the 757 and wanted to give rides to all her many friends for free... will you be apologizing?
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: john9001 on February 08, 2007, 01:39:56 PM
my sources say the air force provided the last speaker of the house with a C20 ( gulfstream 3) they told her office thats what they have, she said she wants a bigger plane because she has a bigger staff.

the plane she wants cost $10,000 hr to operate.

your tax money at work.
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: lazs2 on February 08, 2007, 01:44:34 PM
why not let her fly commercial?  she can take off her shoes and get searched and get to the airport an hour early like everyone else.

lazs
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: midnight Target on February 08, 2007, 02:01:22 PM
Sure, I've got plenty of extra ones from prior neocon blunders.
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: Toad on February 08, 2007, 02:14:24 PM
Well, I guess I should have saved all the ones from the Lib-er-uls. I could have paved my road to heck with them by now.

Oh, well... easy come, easy go. It's not like they're hard to find or anything.
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: cav58d on February 08, 2007, 02:50:29 PM
http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=87

this is all BS.  G-III can make it D.C.-KSFO with an additional 1,000 some odd miles to spare.
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: Debonair on February 08, 2007, 03:02:42 PM
yeah, but i bet with the long range fuel it can only carry the flight crew.
LMAO flight crew of four for a small bizjet:lol :lol :lol :lol !!!11
maybe she should request a lockheed constellation or a 707
OMFG i wanna fly my 172 with a flight engineer & a comms nurd in it LMAO...
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: midnight Target on February 08, 2007, 03:12:53 PM
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Originally posted by cav58d
http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=87

this is all BS.  G-III can make it D.C.-KSFO with an additional 1,000 some odd miles to spare.


I thought you were a pilot?
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: cav58d on February 08, 2007, 03:16:40 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I thought you were a pilot?


I am.  I do not fly a Gulfsteam, but I am 100% certain a G-III can make the trip.
Title: Re: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: Hap on February 08, 2007, 03:43:51 PM
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Originally posted by cav58d
How do you feel about Nancy Pelosi jet setting across the friendly skies in an over the top B757, when the G-III she was offered would more than suffice?

Any outrage?


Not me.  I whir up more outrage reading what you guys say than what politician's do.

They have an excuse: money, power, prestige.

We, here, are without excuse.  Pardoning those of course who were dropped on their heads when very young.


FWIW, Tony Snow says "get over it" as reported by that bastion of fairness Fox News.

All this is like "did you know he/she had waffles for breakfast!?"  

What will the egg producers say???

Regards,

hap
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: Donzo on February 08, 2007, 04:00:31 PM
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Originally posted by 68Hawk
For once I think I completely agree with Lazs



omg, me 2 :O
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: Debonair on February 08, 2007, 06:43:13 PM
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Originally posted by cav58d
I am.  I do not fly a Gulfsteam, but I am 100% certain a G-III can make the trip.


maybe in perfect conditions, but what about into a 80kt headwind, with a lot of altitude changes for turbulence (& use of the speed brakes to get down to Va for the same reason) then shoot the Cat 3 approach into SFO, go missed due to the notorious SFO fog, fly to Sacramento & land with 45 minutes fuel after having to go around cause tom cruise cut them off on final in his P-51...
Title: Global Warming Liberals
Post by: cav58d on February 08, 2007, 07:02:02 PM
damn him.  damn mr. cruise to hell!

nice 51 though.