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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Laurie on February 08, 2007, 09:14:41 AM
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jUst an idea i got from hearing the new 'perked weapons' idea being possibly added to AH in '2 weeks' lol,
But i thought, why don't we hve some perked ordinance too?
first ideas,
the Avro Lancatser was modified to carry 'tall boys' (12'000lb bomb) 'Grandslams' (24,000lb bomb!) and bouncing bombs.
These are jsut a few off hand and im sure there may be many tohers,
You may ask , what's the piont in 24 or 12 thousand pound bombs,
well, for a town, the shock wave would probably take don a whole town, during testing the 'grandslam' left a 300ft wide and 130ft deep crater.
Could aslo be good for dropping on a pad and taking out all hangers on that pad.
with the 'tall boy', it could be used for v bases' hangars.
Things like the bouncing bomb would make bombing more intersting.
i would think that the grandslam would be about 20 perks in price,
the tall boy 10
Thisn is just an idea though.
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2x 37mm AT cannons for Stukas :aok
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Originally posted by BlauK
2x 37mm AT cannons for Stukas :aok
Yes pls.
And also for the IL2.
Bronk
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while i want those two bombs i think the cost, at least for the 24000lb bomb should be between 80-100 perks, and only 1 plane in the formation would carry them.
20 perks is far too low, and would mean EVERYONE will be dropping them like crazy for months on end.
however modeling the bomb would be "cool" it would have to be dropped from high alt, ie wont arm for lets say 18000ft, because it had to spin up to bury itsself etc. This would also stop suiciders bombing CV's
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Its the same as the nuke idea. Our targets are only so big. Theres only just so much to destroy before it becomes overkill.
What we need is the Chrono-bomb. This bomb detonates over a damaged field and extends the rebuild time of 10 minutes, to 20 minutes downtime. However, the town has to be flat in order for it to take effect on the base structures.
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I'd like to see all bomber formations perked.
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Originally posted by Speed55
I'd like to see all bomber formations perked.
suppose you want them without bombs too?
if you did that, you would have to allow the oposite direction too... ie pay extra for more formations.
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B-29 :noid
No need for a bouncing bomb as it was used for 1 purpose and 1 purpose only. Do we have dams in AH2 ?
+ there would be no way I'd pay 100 perks for a 24,000 pound bomb !
Perking ord is the baddest idea that i've read.
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Originally posted by Speed55
I'd like to see all bomber formations perked. [/QUOTE
Bet your an LALA; bomber cherry picker sort and three sets of guns annoys your engine oil?
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Originally posted by Speed55
I'd like to see all bomber formations perked.
Don't take away my targets.
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Originally posted by Laurie
Originally posted by Speed55
I'd like to see all bomber formations perked. [/QUOTE
Bet your an LALA; bomber cherry picker sort and three sets of guns annoys your engine oil? [/B]
I'll be often seen in a Ki-61 sending buff formations down. Not too difficult really.
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Originally posted by Laurie
Originally posted by Speed55
I'd like to see all bomber formations perked. [/QUOTE
Bet your an LALA; bomber cherry picker sort and three sets of guns annoys your engine oil? [/B]
Check my stats.. see how much i fly an LA.. any LA...
In fact, you probably should have done that before you made an assumption on what and how i fly.
I just think bombing, and defending the formation is too easy, even when i'm the one bombing.
Since i do like flying bombers from time to time, and have alot of perks sitting there doing nothing, it would at least be something to spend them on.
I also think it would be cool if when the real hardcore buff guys ran there missions, they flew without drones once in a while.
It would be kind of interesting to see 15 single bombers formed up in a tight box to protect eachother, while at the same time carpet bombing a field.
Anyone can take down 3 fighter hangers and a vh with 2 passes on a small field, by themselves. To me, it's kind of funny.
... now if they were to add the tallboy/grandslam. they would have to be between 100-200 perks, and like someone in the beginning said, should only be on one plane, even if you had a formation.
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yer one plane was what i was thinking, and thats how they were used during war. and 200 perks is TOO much for a throw away item.
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Originally posted by Laurie
yer one plane was what i was thinking, and thats how they were used during war. and 200 perks is TOO much for a throw away item.
Not for a throw away item which can destroy a whole town just by one drop. There are many people in this game with literally thousands of bomber perks at hand. Want that special BOOM? Pay that special price ... ;)
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Originally posted by Lusche
Not for a throw away item which can destroy a whole town just by one drop. There are many people in this game with literally thousands of bomber perks at hand. Want that special BOOM? Pay that special price ... ;)
What?!!! Spend 200 perks to carpet bomb a spawn point? Are you mad?!!!!!! Of course not, you're correct! :aok
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Originally posted by Kazaa
No need for a bouncing bomb as it was used for 1 purpose and 1 purpose only. Do we have dams in AH2 ?
they was used for sub pens as well. And who says dams couldnt be added for things like TOD.....? lol
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Originally posted by Speed55
I'd like to see all bomber formations perked.
I've said it before; I'll pay for drones with my bomber perks, so long as I can get up to FIVE drones per sortie.
Say goodbye to strat factories and cities.... and I won't need 1K's to do it either.... 500's will work just fine out of 6 B-17's, or the variety found in 6 JU-88's. Give me a good reason to fly up to 25K again on a regular basis.
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Talk about revisiting a lot of old death threads in this one. Been said many many (many....many....) times that we are not going to see any bomb larger than the 4,000 pound "cookie" for bombers. No tall boys. No grand slams. No nooks. No V2's.
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37mm on Stuka and IL-2.... that would be fun. Been playing with the IL-2 lately as it is.
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oh yeah, add a perked A-26B and A-26C to lineup. Towed 88mm Flak36 too.
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Originally posted by Anyone
they was used for sub pens as well.
That's new to me. Until now I thought the "Upkeep" bouncing bombs were only used for Operation Chastise. Maybe you are confusing them with the Tallboy bombs wich in fact were used to attack targets like U- and E- boat pens?
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Isn't there always someone in these threads that asks for the P-39....
Did I beat him to the punch?
:rofl :rofl :rofl
4XTCH
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Originally posted by Lusche
That's new to me. Until now I thought the "Upkeep" bouncing bombs were only used for Operation Chastise. Maybe you are confusing them with the Tallboy bombs wich in fact were used to attack targets like U- and E- boat pens?
they tried boucing them over torpedo nets and into the sub pen doors as well. didnt work though.
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I asked for the Lancaster B1 which carried the Grandslam and the Tallboy as a perk plane some time ago in the Wishlist forum but mostly for taking out the hardened building at HQ.
Someone recently (I think it was Filth) was asking to limit the number of 163's available so his bomber groups would have a better chance of getting to HQ before being shot down. If the Tallboy and Grandslam were introduced only 1 bomber would have to make it in and score a direct hit on the hardened building leaving the 163's to have their fun too (plus, perk ride against perk ride).
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Originally posted by Anyone
they tried boucing them over torpedo nets and into the sub pen doors as well. didnt work though.
Any details? Which raid? Units?
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Originally posted by BlauK
2x 37mm AT cannons for Stukas :aok
Unfortunately, we have the wrong Ju87 for those weapons.
ack-ack
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Then just more perks for a proper Stuka :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Unfortunately, we have the wrong Ju87 for those weapons.
ack-ack
The Ju 87D-5 increased wing span to 15.00 m from 13.8 m and replaced the MG 17 with two MG 151/20 cannons to improve ground attack capability.
Not sure how difficult this would be to model in the code.
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Originally posted by Kazaa
No need for a bouncing bomb as it was used for 1 purpose and 1 purpose only. Do we have dams in AH2 ?
B25s used bouncing bombs against Japanese shipping. Used them in shallow water and ports to get around... or over torpedo netting.
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B-25's just skip bombed GP HE 500 lbs bombs they didnt have the rolling drum or bouncing bomb, the 500 and 1000lbs bombs in AH can be skiped (but its rarly seen)
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The bombs in here cannot be skipped.
ack-ack
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Perking ord is the baddest idea that i've read. [/B]
Read more. You'll see much worse.
hap