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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Kongkyuk on February 08, 2007, 02:52:02 PM
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I posted this in vehicles and planes, but what do u guys think, I know it was very limited use in WWII 1945, but it really would be a sweet ride, make it high perk cost if need be ...
Wht u think?
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Yum...another perk plane to slaughter...
IMHO we have enough late war monsters.
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Originally posted by Kongkyuk
I know it was very limited use in WWII 1945...
Very limited? How about none.
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I love it when people are dissatisfied with the answer one person gives them, so they go and ask another even though it won't change.
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Did you ask your mother?
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i wonder if any of these or F8Fs (which were - and this is really funny, so wait for it - according to Grumman test pilot Corky Meyers the BearCat was two weeks too late for WWII combat:lol) or F7Fs (which the USN started receiving in 1944) were involved in the big Tokyo Bay surrender flyover....
see any?
(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g470000/g472630.jpg)
(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/s200000/s211863.jpg)
(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g420000/g421130.jpg)
(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h62000/h62593.jpg)
(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h75000/h75348.jpg)
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Nope, all I can identify are Corsairs, Hellcats, Avengers and Helldivers.
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Originally posted by Treize69
Nope, all I can identify are Corsairs, Hellcats, Avengers and Helldivers.
Same for me Treize, although you never know. Those Corsairs could be -4's with 4X20mm...
:confused:
Maybe when we get the AH Korea arena, you'll get your wish Kong. They'll have the F4U-5 then and you can shoot down all the Mig-15's you can HO. It'll kind of be like the Hurri II versus P-51 fight in the LWA's.
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there are some PBYs in there too
i also spotted Nilsen
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How many perks you figure for a Shellback ceremony on a hospital ship?
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:lol You guys are great,, lol It's just a dream of mine, and yes they were used in 1945 :t
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Originally posted by Kongkyuk
:lol You guys are great,, lol It's just a dream of mine, and yes they were used in 1945 :t
Nobody is questioning whether or not they existed. We know they did. However, just as in your last thread discussing this same issue, we will emphatically state, unless you can prove otherwise, they did not see any combat. There is much history to support the existence of the F4U-1C during the Okinawa campaign. But, that was a -1A with 4X20mm, not a -4 with 4X20mm cannon.
F8F, F7F, P-72 are all planes I'd love to see, except for the fact that, while all existed and some were even in theater, they didn't see a shot fired in anger. I'm sure some of those guys that like the German rides would love to see some of their gadget planes that were produced in micro-quantities modeled as well.
Learn how to fly the F4U-4 well, and you will rule the skies in AH2, without the need for the cannon.
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Just to be thorough, I looked at the complete listing of U.S. Navy aircraft for the month of September, 1945. While I saw numerous references to F7F's and a few F8F's, I saw no mention of any other -4 than the plain -4. The list is fairly exhaustive of all other types of F4U's--Dash 1's, 1A's, 1D's, and 1C's. But there are no F4U-4C's listed. I'll post the link in case you want to read it yourself--I may have skipped over them in my haste.
Link Here (http://www.history.navy.mil/a-record/ww-ii/loc-ac/1945/sep1945/7-9-45.pdf)
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Not necessary Stoney, thanks for your time and input. we can go round and round about info, books, web pages etc..
I fly the F4U-4, It does do very well. I love the 1-c cannons though. I Hate the numerous 50 cals needed to bring down planes.
I like some of your wishlist planes also :)
I don't see why, if they were in production, but didn't fire a shot we can't use them for fun.
Krusty summed it up the best in his reply post (Why? So you can out-run all but 3 planes in the game (tempest, 262 and la7, 2 of which are perked), out-turn 90% of all the planes in the game, outroll all but spit16 and 190D, out-dive everything including P-47s, decelerate so fast your face would rip off and your eyes pop out, pop flaps at all speeds and gain endless lift with almost no drag, and easily shoot down any plane from any angle at ranges up to and including 1k, with enough ammo left over to land a 20-kill sortie without rearming?)
That pretty much sums up an F4U-4C, cept I think the 4 is faster at alt than the tempest.
Landed a 10 kill sortie the other day with the 4, but needed to rearm twice. The cannons would have saved time
:t
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OH I forgot SWEET LINK:aok
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i think u get a lot more time w/ ur finger on the tigger in a 0.50 plane
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Originally posted by Kongkyuk
Landed a 10 kill sortie the other day with the 4, but needed to rearm twice. The cannons would have saved time
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I land 12 kills in F4U-1D once, 8-9 heavy bombers kills few times in single F4U-1D sortie. No rearm, no vulch.
6 x 0.5cal are very powerfull.
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I think my record was 11, but I had to break off because of gas. Had enough left in the clip for another kill or three.
If you're expending that much ammo for so few kills (and the F4Us carry one of the LARGEST load per gun of any aircraft fit with machine guns) it's a gunnery issue. Either you're firing too long, your convergence is off, or you're just plain missing.
Put it this way:
A good 1-second burst from all six guns will take the wing off most anything (slightly more for a BUFF, even less for Spits and Zekes).
The F4Us have, on average, 30 seconds of firing time (1 and 1A carry 25rds less in the two outboard guns). That means with perfect aim, in one furball you could potentially down 30 in one sortie without having to rearm.
Realistically, you'll more likely be able to squeeze between 10-15, since you're not always going to get that perfect wingroot shot, and the amount of fire needed CAN vary due to lag, hit pattern, and whether your guns are right on the sweet-spot for an instant wing clipping.
.50cal just don't get enough respect around here.
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Originally posted by Saxman
[ it's a gunnery issue. Either you're firing too long, your convergence is off, or you're just plain missing.
It's the last (plain missing) I take the high percent shots, shoot blind, snap shoot, etc..:cool:
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Yeah, that'll do it.
However, even accounting for the shots you take the F4Us pack more than enough lead to come away with 8 or so kills.
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My gunnery sucks, and I was able to get 8 kills in a P47 with full ammo before I was even down to 1400 rounds per bank (ack got me after this).
I've landed 6 kill sorties without rearming or reloading in P51s, F4us, and yes even some in C202s.
Don't dis the 50cal :P
Just learn to hit with 'em. Stop taking the snap shots, and manuver for a solid shot. If you're ONLY going to get a fleeting shot, don't bother pushing for it (and bleeding speed and putting yourself in an inferior position). Just set up the next manuver and be a step ahead of the target for the next shot, which you can then land with a solid THUMP.
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Good advice,, Just need to do it :aok
Krusty what is your game ID, your not listed as krusty?
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krusty1 these days
edit if you're going to check, check my previous tours, this one I'm really sucking (lol)