Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Fencer51 on February 11, 2007, 08:45:03 PM
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Progress shots for review. Still need to weather, chip, leaks, and other tweeks such as rudder shadow and gun bay handles.
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Pic 2
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Pic 3
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Pic 4 and these are darker than in game and photoshop where I resized them.. interesting.
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It may just look dark in those shots, but I'd say brighten up the bare-metal portions a bit, seems it was kept pretty clean.
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Another shot. Very bright looking bare aluminum, even indoors.
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Hrm....
(http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=2327484)
[EDIT: It won't let me put it in as an image, it's the image of the plane outside 2 posts up (click the link for image)]
Looks like 2 different colors before and after the cockpit.
Perhaps it used a darker shade for the anti-glare? Maybe black? Maybe just a darker shade of green?
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I will see what I can find Krusty, yet all the artwork by Wade Meyers has it as OD as do all the profiles in the Aircraft of the Aces series.
I would trust Meyers on this as he is a 4th FG devotee.
I gotta redo the ID stripes on the wings, they are not wide enough and I need to move them outboard as well.
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It could be nothing. It could just be part of the photo is fading more than another. It just struck me odd when I saw it.
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Great work Fencer.
Some more pics of the Kidd. Won't help much in the skin dept. though. The last pic is a shot of a P-47. Maybe he had a date with Susan that night? Looks like it was chalked on maybe?
Artist Troy White has done some good work on The Kidd.
Frodo
(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/Kidduke_new.jpg)
(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/Hoferweb1.jpg)
(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/light_up_Z2.jpg)
(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/Hoferweb2.jpg)
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A few more Kidd pics.
Frodo
(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/kidd3.jpg)
(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/kidd2.jpg)
(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/hofercp_001.jpg)
(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/kidd1.jpg)
(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/shome.jpg)
(http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/proffers/d-hofer.jpg)
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Nice skin, but it's already in the game.....
My regards,
Widewing
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We know, and its very badly done.
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=198414
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I'm not sure what you mean. I never really looked at it that much in-game.
What's wrong about it? Inaccurate? Bad colors? Poor weathering? What don't you like?
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Originally posted by Treize69
We know, and its very badly done.
I tend to agree...
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/SalemRep.jpg)
My regards,
Widewing
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Check the link Krusty, thats why its there.
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Ooooh duuude, I thought the shots you posted were of a skin you were working on NOW, still under construction!!! Geeze! I see what you're saying now, totally!
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Besides some markings not lining up perfectly on the empanage. Why do you guys think it's a poorly done skin?
I'm not a skinner, but would like to be one in the near future. I'm looking for answers to help me learn from this.
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Tail stripes are white when they should be black. The OD paint on the wings top of fuselage and tail was added when they thought they might be sending the 51s to France. So it was painted over the black which showed through I believe.
Can't put my finger on it Fencer, but something not clicking. Thinking it might be that the ID stripes are a touch narrow and the tail ones are just a bit too far out towards the end of the wing.
Not complaining mind you as I can't make a skin to save my life :)
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Guppy, your photo is causing confusing regarding the stripes on the empanage.
Sounds like the skin in the game has every right to be white stripes rather than black, although, it looks better with black stripes in the back. :)
EDIT: Guppy is right, you need to adjust the stripes on the stablizer and move them more inward.
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Thought I said that I was not happy with the stripes. I have since moved them redid the 'Kidd' and made the ones on the wings wider. :aok
Also I figured out why the fusalage metal was so dark. A layer was set at full opacity, I have since fixed that as well.
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guys i think saying the one in the game is not good enough is a bit over the top.
the standards now of the skins by everyone has gone up so high that earlier attempts show out more.
ok so the skin is not 100% correct but saying it is no good is very harsh.
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The skin in game was created what appears to be 2 days from 8/26/05 to 8/28/05. I posted in the skin's thread back in January 2006 asking if he was ever going to finish it and got no reply. I finally PMed him and he stated it was not done but he was going to finish it eventually so I backed off.
You can follow the process here @ this thread. (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=157985)
Back in May he posted the following;
Finally done and submitted...
Not happy with it but well well... making a mixed metal and paint skin is virtually impossible as the material applies to everything...
Tex
I personnally have never said it was not good enough as that is not my call that is HTC's.
What I will say is that he did not put alot of effort into detailing it correctly and getting all the touches which finish a skin out completed. So after listening to some friends complain about it and being told that I needed to do it, I asked what the rules were on duplicating skins.
So, I am doing it. If HTC doesn't want to replace the once in game because they think it is better than this one, well again that is their call. However I am going to finish it once work settles down (next week) and it will be done as correctly to the actual plane as possible from existing references.
Cheers,
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your version is looking great and i am all for htc replacing skins that they think are not up to standard or having a skin i have done replaced by one the same of better quality or a different one.
we got to keep the game fresh and the standards high even if we wont fly much
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I'm not saying it's unfit for AH use either, but I'm a stickler for details. I won't submit if stripes on the left/right don't line up. Same for stripes top/bottom. I put a lot of effort into making my skins look as good as I can from almost any angle.
My take on doing the same skin is: As long as you have a different take on how it's done, go for it. Meaning we don't want 2 identical skins, but if yours is better HTC might replace the original. If the original is better HTC might accept it and have them both, or they might just reject it saying "We're full, already have this, thanks". I say take the chance and wait for HTC to decide the fate of the skin.
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I say submit better versions of a skin (I even say that if you improve mine!) and keep submitting really good ones even if a list is full. Nothing that says they might not decide to replace an older, less well done skin with a totally new and great looking one.
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Final Pics, submitted
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Final Pics Submitted
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Great job Fencer51! Right down to the kill markings. :aok
Too bad it won't allow a #78 Football Jersey on the pilot.:D
Frodo
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MUCH better. you da man Fencer! :aok
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Very nice work per usual Fencer. Glad you did the May 44 version :)
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very nice work as always fencer