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Title: Base change at end of war
Post by: flapsup on February 12, 2007, 08:07:24 PM
Why do the bases all change at the end of the war?
Title: Base change at end of war
Post by: Mustaine on February 12, 2007, 08:17:35 PM
when a map starts, or resets, the countries are randomly assigned a part of the map.

it is rare, but it happens that they are in the same spot as when the map started, but like i said rare.
Title: Base change at end of war
Post by: flapsup on February 12, 2007, 09:25:12 PM
No, I mean when the war ends and in the chat it says for example "Knights have won the war" why do the bases change then?

I was defending my base when the war was declared won by one of the countries, the base I was defending at wasnt taken, twn wasnt even all dwn.. but another base was taken that counted for the win. All the bases flip-flopped position on the map then my own base started shooting me, and others on my team in that area.
Title: Base change at end of war
Post by: Dichotomy on February 12, 2007, 09:31:00 PM
not to sound like a real smart A@# but it's because your chess piece came in either second or third.  

These things happen :)
Title: Base change at end of war
Post by: flapsup on February 12, 2007, 09:38:13 PM
Ok, I understand all that..

But logically why? the whole thing restarts again in 4 min, with a whole new map, so why the change for the bases at the point of the wars end?

Im sure its not only me who was flying around, or in a gv who was defending and then killed by their own base, it just seems like an unecessary thing, no? If not please explain its importance in the game during that last 4 min.
Title: Base change at end of war
Post by: Meatwad on February 12, 2007, 10:00:37 PM
Its just how things are. They were like that way back an AH1. Its just how the current map resets before the map change

Anyways HT has it there for a reason. Probabally for his amusement while watching some tard that has 10 kills from vulching that is just about to land suddenly get chewed up from ack, therefore running to the boards and crying like a little girl
Title: Re: Base change at end of war
Post by: Masherbrum on February 12, 2007, 10:07:13 PM
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Originally posted by flapsup
Why do the bases all change at the end of the war?


To piss all 262 sticks that are "now over enemy lines".
Title: Base change at end of war
Post by: BaldEagl on February 12, 2007, 11:17:09 PM
If I remember correctly I'm pretty sure that all of the original bases of the losing country become the winning country's bases which allow the winners the bonus of landing.

It's been so long since I saw a reset I forget what I thought the protocol was for the other two but whatever it was it seemed consistant.
Title: Base change at end of war
Post by: Mustaine on February 12, 2007, 11:45:32 PM
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Originally posted by flapsup
No, I mean when the war ends and in the chat it says for example "Knights have won the war" why do the bases change then?
please re-read what I stated.

the map resets.

countries are re-spawned in random positions of the map.


yes the arena re-boots, but that is to put up a new terrain, as you can not load a new terrain while one is up.


to re-iterate and make sure you are not given mis-information, there is NO order to what country get's put where. there is no "winner gets position A" because they could capture the "reset trigger" base anywhere. it is a RANDOM positioning.
Title: Base change at end of war
Post by: Roscoroo on February 13, 2007, 01:10:54 AM
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
If I remember correctly I'm pretty sure that all of the original bases of the losing country become the winning country's bases which allow the winners the bonus of landing.

It's been so long since I saw a reset I forget what I thought the protocol was for the other two but whatever it was it seemed consistant.



the Map rolls to the next country listed in the Reset setting ... It doesnt go by whom ever wins the war ...
Title: Base change at end of war
Post by: Krusty on February 13, 2007, 01:16:45 AM
The fields are given default countries when the terrain is built.

Only it gets REAL old if the same country gets the same "pie wedge" every time.

So every time the arena loads a map it randomly rotates the teams ON LOAD.

So when the war is "won" the map "resets" to terrain-default layout. Since the on-load random rotation is "random" it does occasionally happen that the reset on winning the war is the exact layout as before.

It's somewhat rare, though.
Title: Re: Re: Base change at end of war
Post by: Murdr on February 13, 2007, 06:37:54 PM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
To piss all 262 sticks that are "now over enemy lines".

All they have to do is live for 4 mins, and that sortie does not count.  If the sortie ends short of the terrain change, it's scored.

Im sure you know that karaya, just sayin.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Base change at end of war
Post by: Masherbrum on February 13, 2007, 09:16:47 PM
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Originally posted by Murdr
All they have to do is live for 4 mins, and that sortie does not count.  If the sortie ends short of the terrain change, it's scored.

Im sure you know that karaya, just sayin.


Amen brother :)  <>
Title: Base change at end of war
Post by: BlauK on February 14, 2007, 11:56:46 AM
It is just a remaining "feature" from old times when the maps did not change (boot players out) after the war ended. The same map remained with randomized starting locations.

Why are the countries still randomized for those 5 or 4 minutes.... because they have not changed it.
AFAIK, there is no actual reason why the randomization should still be used.
Title: Base change at end of war
Post by: gewehr on February 14, 2007, 01:03:02 PM
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Its just how things are. They were like that way back an AH1. Its just how the current map resets before the map change

Anyways HT has it there for a reason. Probabally for his amusement while watching some tard that has 10 kills from vulching that is just about to land suddenly get chewed up from ack, therefore running to the boards and crying like a little girl
     
 
ROFLMAO!!:lol
Title: Base change at end of war
Post by: crockett on February 14, 2007, 01:47:01 PM
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
not to sound like a real smart A@# but it's because your chess piece came in either second or third.  

These things happen :)


No it happens to everyone..  I was on the winning team 2 or 3 resets ago and was just about to land at one of our own bases when the war was won. The ack immediately started shooting at me because the base switched to another countries and it caused me to lose my plane. Wasn't a perk plane but I didn't get to land my kills.

The map change isn't biased on who wins it resets all the bases no matter what and then you have 5 mins to get to a base to land at. I was on the winning team when this happened.
Title: Base change at end of war
Post by: BlauK on February 15, 2007, 02:09:13 AM
The starting bases (or sections of the map) are randomized when a war is won. Some country may end up keeping the same bases.

One does NOT need to land his plane when a war is won/lost. One will get an automatic landed result when the server disconnects for loading a new map.
One just needs to stay alive for those 5 minutes.