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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: texasmom on February 17, 2007, 12:31:53 PM
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Wrag's Mercedes joke made me wonder what other excuses/lies/efforts are out there in trying to avoid a ticket.
If you're a cop, post the best one you ever heard (and as a result, did you let them off w/a warning?).
If you're an offender, post the best effort you put forth with an excuse (and as a result, did you get off w/a warning?).
Here's mine: I've only been pulled over twice in my life. Once for a burned out tail light (I paid the fine). The other time, I don't know what it was for. Right after I pulled over, the bank I was next to was being robbed, so the cop left.
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the only time I talked myself out of a ticket I used the "I really gotta take a dump" excuse. verbal warning, have a nice day! :)
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Had a real lean problem with the car.. like it had a really bad vacuum leak. Finally found out what it is. All the bolts on my intake manifold... all of them, were loose... really only finger tight. At a friend's house, tightened them all down and hoped to fix the problem. No luck, driving home the car would lean out to the point of missing and back firing unless I was at full throttle or complete idle. The only way I could leave a light without stalling was at full throttle.
Then, Westbound at Camelback and Dysart roads(rural setting near farmland), I launched from the light at full throttle.. was doing 65 immediately.... then the lights came on a ways behind me. I didn't see the cop. I pull over and the now blown intake gasket is leaking oil onto the the headers... significant smoke. Cop asks for DL only. Interior is graphite. wallet is black and it's 10 o'clock at night. I can't find my wallet!!! Cop shines light and gets a good look at interior... no weapons on board( I carry some times) with his help I find my wallet, pass over DL.
Cop takes my DL, and asks me what the heck I'm doing. I figured "what the heck" and told him the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. He replies, "Well it seems to idle fine and did you need to be going 65 MPH?" I stuckwith the truth, told him about the lean problem again and confessed that "You got me there, I was up to 65 before I knew it."
He said, "You are driving recklessly." I said nothing... dread at what this was going to cost me had me by the normally glib tongue. Cop looks at my gauges..."This a race car?" Sticking to the truth but immediately worried I said too much: "No sir, but I'd like to race it when it's running right, there's a track right by my house, up in Surprise." Cop takes a long look at my tires, "Are these street legal?" Reply, "Yessir, they are Goodyears and fully legal and intended for street use."
Cop circles my car.....3 times. He is not admiring it, IMHO, he is giving it a good look to make sure there's no problems. All lights are in working order. *phew*
Cop approaches my window, my DL still in hand. I am literally preparing to undo my seatbelt and step out of the car as I'm sure I'm going to have a seat in the back of the squad.
Cop hands me my license and says, "You need to slow down around here. This place is crawling w/ sheriffs and they will write you up. Reply, "Yessir, thanks for your leniency." Cop gives no reply, returns to his squad, turns 180 and drives off. I felt really unlucky about my intake woes.. but am I really?
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I’ve talked my way out of more tickets than I can count. Actually one time I did count and it was about a 4:1 ratio. One time I was pulled over twice in one day. The first time I was picking up a friend at the airport at about 2:00 AM; I was heading home in my VW van on the airport frontage road and was passing a string of cars when an airport cop pulled me over. (Note: this van had A-Team written on the side, had a big giant furry Mohawk on the roof and a big picture of Mr. T on the nose.) He asked me why I passed so many cars and if I knew that I was speeding. I said that I went to pass the first car because it was slow, and there wasn’t room to get in between it and the car in front of it so I kept accelerating until I was ahead of the entire group of cars. I told him that it wasn’t a very smart thing to do and apologized and promised to drive more safely. I think he let me go because I was respectful.
Late the same day, but in the evening, I was heading home in my VW Bug (this thing was checkered black and white all over and terribly obnoxious looking). I was on a one-way each-direction street and was going to turn onto the same kind of street. I was going about 50mph, the speed limit was 45. This intersection had great visibility, you could see maybe ½ mile each direction. There was only one car in sight and it was pretty far down the road I was turning onto. It looked perfectly safe to oversteer around, so I did. It was a nice, full-lock full-throttle drift. As I straightened out the one car way down the road turned it’s rollers on. I pulled over and he swung around behind me. He asked me how fast I was going. I said, “45 mph.” He said, “How fast is the speed limit on this road?” I said, “45 mph”. He asked about the road I came off of and I gave the same answer. He asked why I took the corner so fast. I answered that I knew that I could and I saw that no one was in the immediate area. He lectured me for a few minutes and I listened very respectfully and confirmed that I would drive more safely in the future. He let me go.
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Mountain Home AFB Idaho, 1987. Wife and I lived in town, about a 10 mile commute to the base. There are basically two routes through town to get to the base. One goes through the middle of town (35mph speed limit, 3 traffic lights) and the other goes around the edge of town past the sawmill and a residential area (25mph to 35mph to 45mph and no traffic lights) . Normally we would just go through the middle of town. This particular morning we were running a little late and I had patients to setup for before 730 and didnt want to be late for work. I decided to take the "shortcut" to shave some minutes off and get ahead of the line of cars headed to work. I'm in the 25mph zone, turn the corner and up ahead is the sign for the 35mph zone and I know shortly after that is the 45 mph zone. I accelerate up to 45mph and just before I hit the speed of light I look at the intersection for the road that turns off to the sawmill and there was a Mtn Home city cop. He hits the lights, I pull over. He asks me if I know what the speed limit there is, I said "35" not as a question but as if it was a fact. He says "no sir, speed limit is 25, its not 35 until you pass the road to the sawmill" But I clocked you at 45." me "I was? wow sorry, I guess I wasnt paying attention, sorry sir" I give him my Texas DL, "hey, you're from Texas?" "Yep, Near Austin", "Wow me too, near Dallas" we yuck it up for a couple of minutes. He hands me my license back and tells me to be more careful. My wife gets real disgusted that I didnt get a ticket.
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I had a guy disregard a yeild sign and nearly hit my patrol car, he used the I need to poop bit.
I followed him to the service station and wrote out a ticket while he was in the bathroom.
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Originally posted by -Concho-
I had a guy disregard a yeild sign and nearly hit my patrol car, he used the I need to poop bit.
I followed him to the service station and wrote out a ticket while he was in the bathroom.
~golf clap~ :)
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Originally posted by -Concho-
I had a guy disregard a yeild sign and nearly hit my patrol car, he used the I need to poop bit.
I followed him to the service station and wrote out a ticket while he was in the bathroom.
well if I almost hit a DPS car I would need to poop too, then again, I might have already pooped. :lol
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The only thing that has ever gotten me out of tickets is being respectful. A few times now, I was passed by an officer going the opposite direction, and as soon as they even started to turn around, I pulled over and turned on my hazard lights, before they were even turned around. After being very respectful, and admitting to what I did wrong, I was told that the only reason that I wasn't getting a ticket is because I didn't make them chase me down, and that I was respectful to them.
Since my wife is a dispatcher for the Sheriff's Dept, I know most of the department, and they all say the same thing: One sure fire way to get a ticket is to be a smartprettythang.
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I've never tried to talk my way out of a ticket but have gotten out of them by being respectfull and not giving the officers any crap.
I did help a kid get a ticket awhile back though:D Some punk Navy kid pulled up beside me at a light. I was in the right hand lane and there was a cop sitting at the intersection. Anyway this kid didn't see the cop and he's reving his engine and giving me the old "Lets go" look. I held the brakes on my truck and goosed it a bit so it would jump and then looked over at the cop. He's looking at me with this "your not going to do what I think your going to do" look on his face. I looked back over at this kid and gave him a nod. Light turned green and this kid roasts his tires all the way through the intersection while I sat at the light and let the cop pull out in front of me.
I had to honk the horn and wave as I passed by a block up the road. The cop was laughing and the kid was flipping me the bird. O'well I hate those punks with their little rice burner cars with a trash can muffler hanging out the back. I'm sure the spoiler the size of a garage door really helps on a front wheel drive car. Idiots.
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MY WIFE IS PREGNANT!
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Originally posted by Hornet33
I've never tried to talk my way out of a ticket but have gotten out of them by being respectfull and not giving the officers any crap.
I used to be like that.
Now NZ cops are on an 'unofficial' quota system for tickets. About 5 or 6 yaars back I got one of 'those' tickets, you know the ones where it finally dawns on you not all cops are honest.
Next time I get stopped I will be recording the conversation (perfectly legal here) and asking for all the specifics of what the cop did to get my speed (range, angle off, weather conditions) and getting them noted. I will be going off the smartass scale.
Hasn't happened since the last ticket though, good radar-detector/laser jammer combo sees to that. (plus since getting a diesel I tend to cruise within 10-15% of the limit).
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Vulcan,
I assume you are implying you didn't do what you were cited for.
I had more than a few folks try that kind of situation on me. The only response they got was to be told to contest the ticket if they wished, We would not have a trial at the street. Period.
I didn't care a whit if someone contested a ticket I wrote. I got paid to go to court as well. If it were off duty I got paid even more.
I didn't write bad tickets and didn't have to worry about what the consequences of any ticket I wrote would be. There were plenty of violations to be seen so I didn't have to make up a darn thing. I did find it amusing to hear and see what some folks would do to try and get out of a ticket. It never ceased to amaze me the number of folks who figured I was going to let them off because they were rude, argumentative, abusive, assaultive or just a plain pain in the butt.
The folks I did let go were those who were adult enough to admit they could and did make a mistake. A ticket isn't the end of the world and if that's the worst thing that ever happens to a person they will have had a very sedate life.
I got a ticket myself. I was speeding and I paid the fine. No big deal.
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I was heading back to Mt Home from San Diego, and was taking the 2-lane shortcut from Vegas straight north that bypasses 15 and Salt Lake City. In good weather, it cuts about 3 hours off the trip.
The speed limit however was 65 due to the 2 lane highway construction. I was driving a brand new obnoxious red trans-am with 1100 miles on the odometer, but I was being sane and had the cruise control set at 74. Way up ahead I could see a chevy blazer-looking sort of truck entering the highway and turning towards me, but since I'd been on freeways for the previous 6 hours I was looking for cop cars, not cop TRUCKS. I also hadn't seen a single other car for maybe 2 hours, except for a tiny little town that may have been abandoned since I didn't see anyone there. My radar detector went off but the radio was up too loud. Then his lights came on with him still about half a mile away. Oops.
I immediately tapped the brakes and slowed to exactly the 65 speed limit, on the assumption that if he turned to follow me, I'd stop but maybe he was just... you know, in a hurry to keep heading the other direction :) As soon as my speed dropped and stabilized at 65 though, he turned off the lights and we waved at each other on the way past.
I suspect he was just happy I didn't floor it and run, since there probably wasn't another cop for 200 miles and there were plenty of side-roads I could have taken once I disappeared over the horizon at 150mph. I never talked to him but I think he had the right idea about the whole thing and I was happy to accept the break.
I did eventually bump the cruise control back to 69 just to "stick it to the man" plus my car sort of lugs the engine at 65 in overdrive because it's just a bit too slow for the torque curve to cruise at 1600 rpm. I never saw another cop the whole trip until I got to some little podunk town on the border that had 15 cops literally encircling this tiny town, stopping everything that moved. I dunno what was going on but it was even more activity than the usual sunday night max enforcement effort. Maybe they caught some smugglers or needed some last minute revenue for their new years party :) I crept through there 5 mph slower than the speed limit and still got suspicious looks (26 year old driving a new bright red trans-am tends to get those looks) but I made it through without getting stopped.
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Originally posted by mandingo
MY WIFE IS PREGNANT!
CONGRATS AND
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I got pulled over for doing 70 in a 55. The officer asked if I had a good reason to be going that fast. I asked if he wanted me to be completely honest and he said sure. I told him that my wife left me for a cop last week and I was afraid it was him trying to bring her back.
yes, i know it's an old one
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Years ago got stopped twice (in late teens), once for running a stop sign and another for speeding, both times on m'bikes.
Didn't run the stop sign as both my cousin who was riding with had put our feet down.
A couple of weeks later was speeding the second time, be sure 60-65mph in a 35mph zone. Would have killed the guys I was riding with as I told them my speedo cable was broken. :furious
Both times by a young French speaking RCMP.
We all had different classes of DLs (chauffer/bike, car/bike and bike). Now on the back of the DL it is shown what the letter was for in French and English. This poor RCMP got all confused on who could drive what.
Didn't give any crap but both times told him we will see him in court and say if he can't read what is in black and white on the DL, how can he read a speedo or say we ran a stop sign.
Embarassed, he let us go. Told us to slow down, we did after I ripped a strip off Bruce who was the lead bike. Had a good laugh with the cousin at the first episode. :rolleyes:
Like eagl had a simular experience while doing ~80mph on the Hog on a highway in Idaho. State trooper gives my a slow down hand signal. I slowed down and waved back a thank you, as rolled off the trottle. His was the only car I had seen in over an hour.
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Originally posted by Cougar68
I got pulled over for doing 70 in a 55. The officer asked if I had a good reason to be going that fast. I asked if he wanted me to be completely honest and he said sure. I told him that my wife left me for a cop last week and I was afraid it was him trying to bring her back.
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Come on now... that was the one that started the whole thread
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Last time a cop chased me I made this video... (http://www.break.com/index/awesome_police_motorbike_chase.html)
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My most fond traffic cop moment was when a cop failed to yield and hit me. I should have been angry for the ruined wing and bumper, but listening to the cop apologize and being visibly embarrassed in public was too amusing. Almost felt bad for her.
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1. Was doing 80 in a 55 and got pulled over on the highway. Told the cop I was in AA, and one the guys I sponsor was going to start drinking, so I was rushing over to their house to 12 step the guy. (was amazed, but this worked and he let me go. I wasn't in AA, my roommate was)
2. Was doing 60 in a 35 and got pulled over. The cop gave me the "can you give me a good reason why you were going that fast" line, and I replied by asking him if he listens to the radio in his squad car.
He said "yes".
I asked him what radio station?
He said "KSHE-95" (local rock station).
With a straight face I told him "Did you hear Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo just now? I friggin' love that song".
He said "yeah, me too" and let me go.
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Originally posted by Hornet33
I did help a kid get a ticket awhile back though:D Some punk Navy kid pulled up beside me at a light. I was in the right hand lane and there was a cop sitting at the intersection. Anyway this kid didn't see the cop and he's reving his engine and giving me the old "Lets go" look. I held the brakes on my truck and goosed it a bit so it would jump and then looked over at the cop. He's looking at me with this "your not going to do what I think your going to do" look on his face. I looked back over at this kid and gave him a nod. Light turned green and this kid roasts his tires all the way through the intersection while I sat at the light and let the cop pull out in front of me.
I had to honk the horn and wave as I passed by a block up the road. The cop was laughing and the kid was flipping me the bird. O'well I hate those punks with their little rice burner cars with a trash can muffler hanging out the back. I'm sure the spoiler the size of a garage door really helps on a front wheel drive car. Idiots.
The story cracks me up, but do you realize you may have cost him about ten thousand dollars?
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If it cost the kid $10,000....quite simply, he had it coming.
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Originally posted by Hornet33
I did help a kid get a ticket awhile back though:D Some punk Navy kid pulled up beside me at a light. I was in the right hand lane and there was a cop sitting at the intersection. Anyway this kid didn't see the cop and he's reving his engine and giving me the old "Lets go" look. I held the brakes on my truck and goosed it a bit so it would jump and then looked over at the cop. He's looking at me with this "your not going to do what I think your going to do" look on his face. I looked back over at this kid and gave him a nod. Light turned green and this kid roasts his tires all the way through the intersection while I sat at the light and let the cop pull out in front of me.
I had to honk the horn and wave as I passed by a block up the road. The cop was laughing and the kid was flipping me the bird. O'well I hate those punks with their little rice burner cars with a trash can muffler hanging out the back. I'm sure the spoiler the size of a garage door really helps on a front wheel drive car. Idiots.
That's hilarious!
The guy I arrested last night for drunk driving thought I should let him go because he had to take a leak. He ended up pissing his pants just as we got to the jail. For some reason he declined the change of clothes the jailers offered him and he spent the entire 16 hours in the holding cell wearing the pants he pissed in.
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This dude once told me he was speeding because "My x-wife is dating a guy at your department, I thought you were bringing her back"
It's is a line from an old joke, but he said it so seriously... I had to laugh and let him go.
BTW if any of you have "Adam Henry" written on your vehicle registration, well... some Johnny Law thought you were an a-hole
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Originally posted by Vulcan
I used to be like that.
Now NZ cops are on an 'unofficial' quota system for tickets. About 5 or 6 yaars back I got one of 'those' tickets, you know the ones where it finally dawns on you not all cops are honest.
Next time I get stopped I will be recording the conversation (perfectly legal here) and asking for all the specifics of what the cop did to get my speed (range, angle off, weather conditions) and getting them noted. I will be going off the smartass scale.
Hasn't happened since the last ticket though, good radar-detector/laser jammer combo sees to that. (plus since getting a diesel I tend to cruise within 10-15% of the limit).
I can understand your need for the gadgets.
Wellington cops must be fed on raw meat because they have got a bad reputation for hassling motorists, seen it first hand when I did a tiki tour round the north island a few years ago. Hardly saw a cop on the roads from Auckland south, but soon as I hit Wellington there's an army of them cruising the northern motorway like white pointers. Pre- warned, I didn't put a foot wrong either, but strangly I still got the evil eye; maybe they didn't like my car, or Aucklanders.
Auckland cops are no where near as zealous with traffic duty, either they can't be arsed, or more likely because they're too busy going from one crime hot spot to another.
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Not mine but a guy I know actualy did this. He got pulled over for speeding.
When the cop came up and got license , insurance, etc, he asked.."What you got in that mason jar?"
Friend: "Water."
Cop: "You sure?"
Friend: "Yup"
Cop: "Hand the jar out"
Cop again: "That`s not water. That`s wine."
Friend: Praise Jesus! He`s done it again!"
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The Police officer, examining the condition of my '78 Spitfire says: "Son, you take your life into your hands every time you take this car on the highway"
to which I reply: "Sir, there is no way this car makes 85 mph without falling apart"
I didn't get out of it, but had the ticket reduced dramatically by the judge.
-Sik
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Originally posted by texasmom
The other time, I don't know what it was for. Right after I pulled over, the bank I was next to was being robbed, so the cop left.
Yea, and I`m still POed at young , overly eager Brinks drivers that refuse to stay on schedule. Running early......Sheesh!
:)
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Was back in July of 2001. Received a call on my Nextel from my wife who was already 6 months pregnant with our son. She called and said she was home and bleeding (down there). I hopped in the Taurus and was doing 55 in 40's and 45's. Nothing crazy, just speeding. A Detroit Officer saw me and flicked the lights on, I immediately pulled over.
He came up to the window "Man, yer the first one I haven't had to chase down, Why are you speeding, I clocked you at 55 in a 40?" I reply: "Take this phone, my wife is on the other end, she bleeding and pregnant." I'm not bull****ting you at all, I'm sorry but my wife is all I'm thinking about right now." He declined the phone, but knew I wasn't lying. He came back and said "I'm giving you an Impeding the Flow of Traffic. Just show up on your court date." He winked too. I knew what he was saying, be safe, you won't be paying anything.
He never showed up in Court. I only paid a $5.00 parking fee while being in court.
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Never got a speeding ticket. Never go more than 5 mph indicated over the speed limit. Speed limits are there for a reason.
What, me boring? :huh
Hmmm, well, come to think of it ... as a kid there were moments. Our 1950 100-horsepower six-cylinder three-speed manual Plymouth never would reach 100. Topped out about 95 and it was getting pretty antsy then.
But it was a jack rabbit. Nothing beat it to 30. Not even a friend's lowered pink and black V8 Mercury. Never timed quarter-mile speed, but always started early so the sun wouldn't set before we got there.
That was in rural Indiana on a country stretch of beautiful wide concrete highway that probably was a WWII emergency landing strip. Perfect drag site. We were all very careful, had plenty of visibility over the flat farm land in a rural area that had practically zero traffic.
Never heard of any accidents there, though there were plenty on the prevailing narrow two-lane asphalt roads with only a center line marking.
On the East Coast now, way too much population and traffic to do anything but be a good boy in a vehicle.
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I beat a speeding ticket in court once. I was only 18 and was speeding on the Homer spit (a 5-mile bar of land that juts out into Kachemak Bay in Homer, Alaska). I lived in Anchorage and had to drive 220 miles to attend court. The judge was a well known hanging judge, no tolerance for anything. The officer was there and he had a prosecuting attorney. I was a bit surprised, that the prosecuting attorney was there because this was just a stupid speeding ticket. The officer gave his testimony. He basically said that he radared a Honda Civic doing 50 in a 35 zone, pulled the car over and gave the driver a ticket (he said a more than that, but this was 23 years ago and my memory is fading). When he completed his testimony my heart jumped, because I realized that he never said my name. I wasn’t sure at what point he could no longer add new evidence or statements; I also wasn’t sure what would have happened if I said nothing. When it was my turn to talk I decided the safest thing to do would be to steer everything away from our incident, where he might mention my name. So, I stated that I didn’t think police radars were accurate or reliable; many states didn’t use them for such reasons. The ploy worked, the prosecuting attorney testified that they are accurate and accepted in Alaska, the officer tunes them everyday, bla, bla, bla. Then it was my chance for my rebuttal. I still wasn’t sure if the officer could add new evidence or statements, so I asked the judge, “Can the officer add any new evidence at this point?” The judge answered, “No”. I said, “Well, the officer stated that he gave the ticket to the driver of the Honda Civic, but he never said my name. The officer never identified me as the driver of the vehicle”. At this point the judge scowled and stared at me; the courtroom was silent. Then, I swear to God, he began slouching/leaning back in his chair until I could only see his eyes above the bench. His angry stare scared me and the silence seemed to last forever. I couldn’t handle the silence any longer, so I finally said, “That means I win, right?” The judge sat up and stated, “Not guilty due to the fact that the officer never identified the driver of the vehicle.” The prosecuting attorney went nuts and started rambling on about something; I was so elated I didn’t listen. I counted my lucky stars, drove the speed limit through Homer and then sped the remaining 210 miles home.
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Originally posted by eskimo2
Honda Civic
I stopped reading when you admitted you owned a honda civic.
:D :aok
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
I stopped reading when you admitted you owned a honda civic.
:D :aok
It was my sister’s, and it was a wagon. Not only that, it was the ugliest Honda made until that new thing just came out.
84 Honda wagon:
(http://www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/generations/honda.civic/84.honda.civicwagon.175.jpg)
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The last time I got pulled over I used the old unbutton the top 2 buttons trick. Say I have an unfair advantage if you want to but hey it worked. :)
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Originally posted by dmf
The last time I got pulled over I used the old unbutton the top 2 buttons trick. Say I have an unfair advantage if you want to but hey it worked. :)
I'll have to try that next time!
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It's been tried many times. Problem with letting someone like that go is the complaint and sexual harrassment lawsuit that gets filed afterwards.
You are already on record (radio transmissions are recorded) as having stopped that vehicle so you can't deny it. There is no official paperwork on the stop (ticket). The allegation is that you solicited a sexual favor, committed a sexual act or assault on the "victim". It's your word against hers and the "judge and jury" are biased in internal affairs. Once the complaint is determined to be "founded", the law suit will be filed and that finding will end up being in evidence. You lose as there is a lesser requirment of proof in a suit than criminal law.
It's far better to simply hand out the ticket and void the show than to void your career, home, marraige, family over seeing a set of boobs or more.
That's one of the reasons I carried a tape recorder and recorded my stops. It proved to be usefull in more than a couple situations.
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Originally posted by dmf
The last time I got pulled over I used the old unbutton the top 2 buttons trick. Say I have an unfair advantage if you want to but hey it worked. :)
Ignore Maverick, post a picture and we'll let you go without a ticket :)
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Originally posted by Maverick
Vulcan,
I assume you are implying you didn't do what you were cited for.
I had more than a few folks try that kind of situation on me. The only response they got was to be told to contest the ticket if they wished, We would not have a trial at the street. Period.
I've had tickets before an accepted them because I know what I did. This guy pinged with a lazer @ more than 500m, with trucks crossing his path as he did so. At the same time a vehicle was coming up behind me. What I assume happened was he pinged me from so far our that he got that vehicles speed.
If you want to question whether he knew he was lying or not - he looked me in the face and said "there were no other vehicles on the road sir". This was at 8.30am on a state highway, one of our busiest ones.
Mav they changed things over here a few years back, cops HAVE to issue a ticket. They're not allowed the warning stuff anymore, plus the tolerance in some zones is down to +5km. They also have a quota system, its unofficial but everyone knows its there.
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Vulcan,
Where's "here"?
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Originally posted by eskimo2
Vulcan,
Where's "here"?
New Zealand
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Vulcan,
If you are going to state he was lying, go file a complaint through IA. I am assuming there is an IA in the LEO organization in NZ. If you have someone who does not deserve to wear the badge you are better off doing something to remove them from the service.
The same question still stands. Are you saying you were not speeding?
As far as making a claim about the Officers not having any discression that's kind of bogus to use that as a claim that an infraction was made up just to write you a ticket. There simply are too many real infractions to have to go stop someone and write a ficitious ticket. The problem with setting some kind of quota or setting an excessively low speed over limit for a mandatory ticket is that the things are public record. All it takes is an investigation into the situation by the press to confirm or deny there are folks being cited for some minimal speed.
We have a jurisdiction outside of Tucson that had a reputation just like that. It was spread as "common knowledge" that you would be cited for 2 to 3 MPH over the limit. It got to the point where the Chief of Police there gave an interview to the press and stated that if anyone could show they were cited for that kind of violation he personally would pay the ticket. The press was never able to find any violations like that in the court records either.
I don't understand why someone would figure a cop is going to risk their entire career just to give some person a ticket. Trust me, citing you is not worth the loss of the job and endangering their family's well being just to write you that ticket. I had one defendant actually ask me about making up a speed on the stand on a petty speeding ticket. It was very pleasurable to explain to him that no ticket much less his was worth perjuring myself.
If you really have some kind of beef with the "system" why don't you try to get the press interested in doing some kind of expose investigation. They'd love to show some kind of conspiracy to write tickets. They might even have their own radar / laser to clock and see what speeds the average public is driving in that area. I've seen that done before.
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Have 2 that have worked in the past:
1.) Here in the Netherlands all the roadways are paid for via Tax dollars (Euros) etc.... a few years back they started enforcing this thing for local traffic only.... When I was stopped on the bike I Was given a ticket for not being Local traffic... let it go to court and asked very simply if if the Road was paid for with tax dollars... and the judge state yes that it was, I stated that if I pay taxes for it also then I should have the right to use it also.... He agreed and thru it out!.
2.) I travel a lot to and from San Diego Ca for my job, a few years back I was not really thinking that much about it and driving in the left hand lane @ 95, southbound on I15.. the CHIP that stopped me asked for my license etc... so I thought I would give it a shot and play the dumb tourist... i.e. Dutch license, Dutch Passport and acted like I spoke very little English...
It worked he said the paperwork involved was just too much trouble....and told me to slow down as we have speed limits in Calf. and some people to pay attention to them.!
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Originally posted by culero
Ignore Maverick, post a picture and we'll let you go without a ticket :)
Yea sure......................... ............................. ........(not)
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Originally posted by Maverick
It's been tried many times. Problem with letting someone like that go is the complaint and sexual harrassment lawsuit that gets filed afterwards.
You are already on record (radio transmissions are recorded) as having stopped that vehicle so you can't deny it. There is no official paperwork on the stop (ticket). The allegation is that you solicited a sexual favor, committed a sexual act or assault on the "victim". It's your word against hers and the "judge and jury" are biased in internal affairs. Once the complaint is determined to be "founded", the law suit will be filed and that finding will end up being in evidence. You lose as there is a lesser requirment of proof in a suit than criminal law.
It's far better to simply hand out the ticket and void the show than to void your career, home, marraige, family over seeing a set of boobs or more.
That's one of the reasons I carried a tape recorder and recorded my stops. It proved to be usefull in more than a couple situations.
Now why would I file a lawsuit on the cop that let me go? If I was gonna file a lawsuit, for anything, I'd file it on the cop for being stupid, I asked why he pulled me over, he said I was going 3 1/2 miles over the speed limit, so I asked him why he didn't pull over the people that passed me, he said because I was the one that pulled over when he turned on his lights. Basically he pulled me over cause I look better than the woman in hi Sears catalog so he wanted a show, so I gave him a little show. No charges, no tickets, no lawsuit, no foul.
Cheers to the honest cops, Boo's to teh ones here.
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Originally posted by Heater
the CHIP that stopped me asked for my license etc... so I thought I would give it a shot and play the dumb tourist... i.e. Dutch license, Dutch Passport and acted like I spoke very little English...
It worked he said the paperwork involved was just too much trouble....and told me to slow down as we have speed limits in Calf. and some people to pay attention to them.!
The 'paperwork' was you going to jail... which is a huge PITA and why it works.
Had you told him you were leaving before the court date, he could have arrested you since you could not "promise to appear". At that point he cant ask you to sign a citation either, it could be entrapment... he'd be asking you to commit a crime by signing to a false promise on an official court document.
I've had people refuse to sign a promise to appear, they get hooked & booked on the infraction and see the judge, usually, the next court day. Plus their car gets towed; the "vehicle release" fee to the city is, or was, $70, the tow $179 + $20 per day.
I saw on COPS once that some State Troopers somewhere can actually make out of state drivers pay the fine immediately, or go to jail until they do. The troop even said there was an ATM at the jail. I thought that was kinda messed up, but its better than having to arrest the poor dude.
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Originally posted by Heater
Have 2 that have worked in the past:
1.) Here in the Netherlands all the roadways are paid for via Tax dollars (Euros) etc.... a few years back they started enforcing this thing for local traffic only.... When I was stopped on the bike I Was given a ticket for not being Local traffic... let it go to court and asked very simply if if the Road was paid for with tax dollars... and the judge state yes that it was, I stated that if I pay taxes for it also then I should have the right to use it also.... He agreed and thru it out!.
2.) I travel a lot to and from San Diego Ca for my job, a few years back I was not really thinking that much about it and driving in the left hand lane @ 95, southbound on I15.. the CHIP that stopped me asked for my license etc... so I thought I would give it a shot and play the dumb tourist... i.e. Dutch license, Dutch Passport and acted like I spoke very little English...
It worked he said the paperwork involved was just too much trouble....and told me to slow down as we have speed limits in Calf. and some people to pay attention to them.!
You need to study up on the Non-Resident Violator Compact.
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Originally posted by Halo
What, me boring? :huh
On the East Coast now, way too much population and traffic to do anything but be a good boy in a vehicle.
I'm with Halo in the slow lane.
<--- Granny driver... completely.
When we go on road trips, the children beg "Daddy, please don't let Mommy drive again! It takes to looooong."
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Marine, had friends stopped in the Land of Dixie in the middle of the night in the '70s while going to Florida. Told to follow a trooper down some lonely black road in what seemed like the middle of nowhere to the station. If they payed the fine they were let go, if not the, door had bars til they did.
Easy money from non residents, especially if they were not from a neighbouring state.
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Originally posted by Maverick
Vulcan,
If you are going to state he was lying, go file a complaint through IA. I am assuming there is an IA in the LEO organization in NZ. If you have someone who does not deserve to wear the badge you are better off doing something to remove them from the service.
The same question still stands. Are you saying you were not speeding?
Mav no I was not speeding. As for IA, well, NZ ain't like that. At the end of the day it was my word against his, who do you think a judge would believe? We're pretty much a "get over it" country - not a lot of work for lawyers here.
So I got over it and fitted out laser jammers to my vehicle. And they work a treat - now they pretty much have no idea what speed I'm doing and I love the looks on their faces (actually I got lasered coming to work this morning, and got the evil eye). I faught the law and the law lost this time.
The press has done LOTS of articles on the quota thing here (especially in regards to cops focussed on ticketing while 111 calls have gone unattended). The even been some internally leaked memo's which appear to show a ranking/performance system based on tickets issued. It got quite messy last year but nothing has been done about it except public denials. The quota system appears to be aimed at 2 tickets per hour.
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Originally posted by dmf
Yea sure......................... ............................. ........(not)
It`s just Monday and already my hopes and dreams are smashed.
Gonna be a long week. :)
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The cops around here and the highway patrol all use the facility I run for a range... they are always asking for favors... they have let me out of a few tickets in my hot rods.
My best one was getting out of a seatbelt ticket. Was in the bay area and got pulled over and the cop told me he noticed that I wasn't wearing a seat belt and asked my why.
I told him "oh, well.. at my age, every once in a while... I just get all nostalgic for back when it was a free country."
He looked kinda stunned and smiled.. I smiled and he handed back my licence and said try to remember to put it on in the future.
lazs
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I just told the officer to unzip his pants and step real close to the window and I would pay the fine right now.
:D
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The last time I got stopped it was for turning left from a right turn only lane. Once I got into the lane, my wife announced that she wanted to go to a store in the other direction. I looked around and then made the turn. The cop pulled me over and asked me if I knew what I did. I said yeah... I new it was wrong, but I did it safely. He let me go.
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Originally posted by Mightytboy
I just told the officer to unzip his pants and step real close to the window and I would pay the fine right now.
:D
Don’t try that with a mounted officer; the horse will want the same as well. Trust me.
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Originally posted by eskimo2
Don’t try that with a mounted officer; the horse will want the same as well. Trust me.
ya, watch out!
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1739698,00.html
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
ya, watch out!
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1739698,00.html
OMG, a bestial dude ranch! I guess one man’s joke is another man’s…
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pleasure?
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
pleasure?
I don’t know; I was at a loss for words. I was simply too stunned to finish my sentence. I mean, to think that there are organized groups out there that cater to such stuff is really kind of shocking and freaky. The fact that it’s legal is even weirder. Really the only way that I can react to such a thing is to write a song about it. So far all I have is: “Welcome to the… BESTIALITY DUDE RANCH!”… I’m thinking a big show tune song and dance number complete with canes and top hats. Unfortunately that’s all that I have because I have no musical talent or sense and also couldn’t think of a word that rhymes with “ranch”. In spite of the fact that I’ve already given up I’m sure that you can imagine that such a topic has fantastic potential. It could make Rocky Horror Picture Show seem like it was written by Disney.
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here's another one but not necessarily an excuse to get out of a ticket, but I'm pretty sure I dodged a bullet on this one.
My 20th birthday, 1980, Lackland AFB, party at my supervisor's apartment off base. 10-12 people there. about 11:30 at night and after several beers one of the girls needed a ride back to the base and her dorm (about 4 miles away). One of my buddies from work John wanted to ride along. 69 Cutlass convertible. Trip to the dorm uneventful. Pulled out of the parking lot and squealed the tires "just a little bit". got about half mile down the road or so, on base still, John says "you got a cop behind ya". I look in the rearview mirror and sure enough there's an LE car (remember the K-cars?) behind me with his lights on. I had no idea how long he was there or when he showed up. I'm scared poopless, I've been drinking and should have know better, i just know I'm toast. I pull over, get my wallet out and open the door and get out (I know now you're not supposed to do this) as I get out of the car I drop my wallet on the ground and I have to support myself on the car door when I bend down to pick it up so I dont fall over.
anyway the LE walks up to me, I give him my DL and ID card. He shines his flashlight in my face, "Airman you know what I pulled you over for?"
me: "No Sir"
LE: "you peeled out back there in that parking lot"
me: "I did?:confused: " (really no idea at that moment, so scared I forgot, clueless)
LE: "Yes, I'm giving you a ticket for exposition of acceleration"
me:"Yes sir, sorry sir"
LE: "what have you been doing tonight"
me: "its my birthday, I was at a friends apartment and brought this girl back to the dorms she needed a ride"
LE: "Well I suggest you get back to your friends apartment right now and stay there, I dont want to see you or this car again tonight"
me: "Yes sir"
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Originally posted by Jackal1
It`s just Monday and already my hopes and dreams are smashed.
Gonna be a long week. :)
LOL
look at the bright side, you are currently traffic ticket free.
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Years ago before I remarried I was pulled over by a cop just as I arrived at my friend's house, whos wife was babysitting my daughters. My '74 duster had a taillight out, but more importantly I had a warrant for a really really old fix-it ticket that i had ignored.
I sat in my car while he ran my license. My friend came out of his house, his wife stayed inside with the kids. when my friend heard the cop say "warrant" he motioned for his wife. My 2 little girls (3 and 8) and his daughters and his wife all came out to the car at once.
My kids did the runing-into-daddy's-arms thing in front of the cop, and my friends gathered around to tell him how I was a single father and all kinds of other mushy crap.
He let me go and asked me to please take care of the warrant.
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Maverick, take off the red goggles please. I've had policemen lie to my face. I've also paid for other drivers' speeds, just like Vulcan. And I'm still not happy about the extra $9,000+ I'm still paying in insurance for my first citation.
My brother knows a few policemen from the shooting range. One of them said that a woman cop in his department regularly went to the freeway, clocked cars going sixty five. She would then would go onto the backroads and pull over some poor sap going just barely over the speed limit, and cite him for going sixty -five.
It's hearsay, but knowing policemen the way I do, I believe it. My brother got a bad ticket also, and he contested it in court. He followed all of the proper procedures to prove that the policeman had not taken all of the steps he should have. The judge simply said, "The officer's word is better than yours." That's justice for you.
There are a few decent policemen out there. But most are either dishonest or enjoy using their power. And some both.
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I love it.
You tell me to take off "the red goggles" then proceed to "tell" me
some anecdotes you got 3rd hand as if it is gospel and use them to tar the majority of LEO's in the field. I would suggest you take off the "goggles" instead. I've heard the same kind of sad "poor me I never did anything wrong" from folks who passed me while I was stopped at a red light then lied to my face when I stopped them. You'll have to excuse me while I consider the story you told me to be much of the same.
Originally posted by Benny Moore
Maverick, take off the red goggles please. I've had policemen lie to my face. I've also paid for other drivers' speeds, just like Vulcan. And I'm still not happy about the extra $9,000+ I'm still paying in insurance for my first citation.
My brother knows a few policemen from the shooting range. One of them said that a woman cop in his department regularly went to the freeway, clocked cars going sixty five. She would then would go onto the backroads and pull over some poor sap going just barely over the speed limit, and cite him for going sixty -five.
It's hearsay, but knowing policemen the way I do, I believe it. My brother got a bad ticket also, and he contested it in court. He followed all of the proper procedures to prove that the policeman had not taken all of the steps he should have. The judge simply said, "The officer's word is better than yours." That's justice for you.
There are a few decent policemen out there. But most are either dishonest or enjoy using their power. And some both.
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I was on my way to Bloomington up 446 and as we passed Lake Monroe we saw Sherriff deputies setting up a speed trap so as we were coming back a few hours later I knew to be sure not to speed. (I never go over 5 miles over the speed limit anyway)
As I was passing John Mellencamp's house a Silver Full size truck pulled out in front of my mid size Silver truck and started hauling ass. As we went across the causeway we see the police were still there. 1 facing us just before the road to the boat ramp on the left and 2 past the road facing away from us. Well the truck in front of us saw he was in trouble so he turned on the road to the boat ramp and we were surprised no cop followed him.
We went past the police and to our dismay the cop pulled us over. I asked him what I did and he said I was doing 55 in a 40. I told him I knew they were there and I knew for a fact I was not speeding. I also asked him if he saw the truck in front of me. He of course said there was no truck in front of me. I pointed out there was and the cop that was facing the other way would be able to verify I was telling the truth but he said he was positive it was me and I should just shut up and leave before he writes me another ticket.
I was totally pissed and was going to fight it in court but while I was at a friends house his neighbor a judge came over and I asked him my chances and he told me that in Monroe county the judges will always side with the cops so I would just be wasting time and money.
It's been several years ago and I'm still pissed!
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Originally posted by dmf
LOL
look at the bright side, you are currently traffic ticket free.
:D Thanks. Your efforts are appreciated.
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I have a had a few.
The best was:
I was about 19, driving my second GTO. A crappy 68 with rust and rust repair done by the last owner with fiberglass.
What do you expect for a GTO I paid 350 for?
It was a 1968 GTO with a 360 Horse HO 400 in it. It had a 4 speed Muncie as well. It was sitting in an ROP yard at a local highschool and the teacher sold it to me for 350 and towed it to my house. His only condition was he kept the tranny and heads.
The car was a rally gauge car, with hiden head lights. 3.55 possi rear, non power brake car. (I put in power brakes)
I took the 400 engine and turbo400 from my first GTO, and was driving it after I had some head work done.
No hood, car not registered, and it was midnight on a friday night and we were about a mile from the big street racing area. That area was crawling with police though cause the weekend before a girl had gotten run over at a big street race down there.
I was going south on the street, its a big industrail area, no one is around at night, but we pass a car. Its a Fremont PD car.
He makes a U turn pulls in behind and his lights go on. It's me and two buddies, none have seatbelts. (hell only half of them were in the car at the time).
The cop takes his time looking the car over and asks for lic and reg, an d hand over what I have and he asks me if I know the car isnt registered.
I tell him yes, I just got the heads back on (this is true we had worked on it all day, we were all covered in grease)and this was a pre smog check test drive.
(at the time the smog cutoff was 65. It was so nice when Cali moved it to 73)
He asks about the seatbelts and I tell him the truth, the car was mising most of them.
He then gives me a little lecture about how he knows why we are out here, its a know street racing area and from now on it was off limits and I was free to go, but I A needed to tell my friends to find a new strip, and B: I better get the car registered.
I was polite and respectfull.
In my experiance, being polite, admiting you made a mistake and not doing anything to make then nervous is the way to go.
I have been in cars with friends that give them attitude and they always get tickets.
Another time, same GTO, later though since I had a hood on it and a full set of seat belts. I was showing off for a girl in the back and proceeded to do 60 in a 45, and swerve through traffic doing it, never using my blinkers and using alot of gas.
I also never looked in the rear view mirror (didnt help the mirror was warn out and would droop). I pulled into a parking lot and the first I noticed him was as he was blocking me in the space and getting out of his car very pissed.
I close my door and put my grab my DL and Reg, (this time its all legal).
I hand them over without him asking and he asks me "you know why I stopped you?"
I look him right in the eye and say "Cause I am incredibly stupid?".
He looks at me in a funny way and walks back to his car.
Come back and says I could site you for all this stuff, and lists it, speeding, fail to use blicker, unsafe lane change etc.
I say "know sir, thats why I am incredibly stupid"
He looks at me for a second, then goes, ok well I am only going to give you one for doing 55 in a 45.
Not sure why, but I guess it was for admiting, honestly that I was a handsomehunk, I meant it too, I was pretty damn digusted with myself.
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
Maverick, take off the red goggles please. I've had policemen lie to my face. I've also paid for other drivers' speeds, just like Vulcan. And I'm still not happy about the extra $9,000+ I'm still paying in insurance for my first citation.
My brother knows a few policemen from the shooting range. One of them said that a woman cop in his department regularly went to the freeway, clocked cars going sixty five. She would then would go onto the backroads and pull over some poor sap going just barely over the speed limit, and cite him for going sixty -five.
It's hearsay, but knowing policemen the way I do, I believe it. My brother got a bad ticket also, and he contested it in court. He followed all of the proper procedures to prove that the policeman had not taken all of the steps he should have. The judge simply said, "The officer's word is better than yours." That's justice for you.
There are a few decent policemen out there. But most are either dishonest or enjoy using their power. And some both.
I seriously doubt a sworn officer would admit to some guy at the range knowledge of civil rights violations, federal crimes and about 5 dozen things that would cost him his freedom & career. Cops don't not talk real shop to people they don't trust 100% anyway, if you know where his throw away is... you're his friend.
You sound like 9 out of 10 "bitter at being cited" people I've ever met, its all a huge ticket conspiracy of lying cops with nothing better to do than screw poor saps.. and you know a guy who talked to a guy who had a fairy tale that validates your beliefs, how shocking.
I knew 2 types of cops; those who hated writing cites and usually only cited those who were COC, and those who loved pulling traffic all day to avoid arresting real criminals and avoided paperwork past EOW at all costs. I can already tell you were stopped by the former, pissed him/her off and got an "attitude cite".
When the cite hating cop stops you s/hes looking for guns/dope/warrants, something good.. whatever you did to get stopped is just probable cause. But once you fail the attitude test, that rolling stop or 7mph over the posted speed limit becomes important. Ask your cops 'friends' if most people talk their way into a ticket, I'll bet you $$ they smile and say "yes".
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
Maverick, take off the red goggles please. I've had policemen lie to my face. I've also paid for other drivers' speeds, just like Vulcan. And I'm still not happy about the extra $9,000+ I'm still paying in insurance for my first citation.
My brother knows a few policemen from the shooting range. One of them said that a woman cop in his department regularly went to the freeway, clocked cars going sixty five. She would then would go onto the backroads and pull over some poor sap going just barely over the speed limit, and cite him for going sixty -five.
It's hearsay, but knowing policemen the way I do, I believe it. My brother got a bad ticket also, and he contested it in court. He followed all of the proper procedures to prove that the policeman had not taken all of the steps he should have. The judge simply said, "The officer's word is better than yours." That's justice for you.
There are a few decent policemen out there. But most are either dishonest or enjoy using their power. And some both.
LOL,
We're knocking down $100,000.00 to $1,000,000.00 currency seizures off drug runners and we're worried about your piddly $150 speeding ticket.
Right....
Drive right and you'll never hear from us.
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Ah, so you are just another dishonest policeman, Maverick. I thought so. Marine, I've never been disrespectful to a policeman's face; I don't say anything unless he asks me and I then mildly respond in as few words as possible. Concho, I think $150 for a minor driving infraction is perfectly reasonable (and there've been many times I've deserved it). The accompanying $10,000 dollars in increased insurance rates is not. For a guy working in a factory (as I was at the time), that's about six months of my life.
Of course, the answer is to not drive over the speed limit - a policy which I now follow for that reason and others (including an unpleasant off-road incident several years ago). But that won't keep you from being pulled over by a policeman who painted the car in front of you on radar - the car that was going ten to twenty miles per hour faster than you and which got off at the first exit.
When it occurred to me, the policeman wasn't even in his car or holding his radar. He was walking back to his car empty handed, got in, and either assumed it was me because he didn't see the other car going faster (doubtful) or decided to hit me because he couldn't find the other guy. Either way, he had absolutely no way of telling which car he painted, since his radar was inside his car and he was not. And he chose wrong.
Did I deserve a ticket? Probably; I was speeding, too. But did I deserve a ticket that said I was going faster than I really was? No, I didn't. But of course, according to Maverick, I'm probably another liar, so be sure to take my word with a big chunk of rock salt. I think I'm done here. There are crooked policemen out there, and from my experience they out-number the good ones.
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I had an Admiral with me. He gave the officer a look of "I will destroy your career" and sent us on our way.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
I have a had a few.
The best was:
I was about 19, driving my second GTO. A crappy 68 with rust and rust repair done by the last owner with fiberglass.
What do you expect for a GTO I paid 350 for?
It was a 1968 GTO with a 360 Horse HO 400 in it. It had a 4 speed Muncie as well. It was sitting in an ROP yard at a local highschool and the teacher sold it to me for 350 and towed it to my house. His only condition was he kept the tranny and heads.
The car was a rally gauge car, with hiden head lights. 3.55 possi rear, non power brake car. (I put in power brakes)
I took the 400 engine and turbo400 from my first GTO, and was driving it after I had some head work done.
No hood, car not registered, and it was midnight on a friday night and we were about a mile from the big street racing area. That area was crawling with police though cause the weekend before a girl had gotten run over at a big street race down there.
I was going south on the street, its a big industrail area, no one is around at night, but we pass a car. Its a Fremont PD car.
He makes a U turn pulls in behind and his lights go on. It's me and two buddies, none have seatbelts. (hell only half of them were in the car at the time).
The cop takes his time looking the car over and asks for lic and reg, an d hand over what I have and he asks me if I know the car isnt registered.
I tell him yes, I just got the heads back on (this is true we had worked on it all day, we were all covered in grease)and this was a pre smog check test drive.
(at the time the smog cutoff was 65. It was so nice when Cali moved it to 73)
He asks about the seatbelts and I tell him the truth, the car was mising most of them.
He then gives me a little lecture about how he knows why we are out here, its a know street racing area and from now on it was off limits and I was free to go, but I A needed to tell my friends to find a new strip, and B: I better get the car registered.
I was polite and respectfull.
In my experiance, being polite, admiting you made a mistake and not doing anything to make then nervous is the way to go.
I have been in cars with friends that give them attitude and they always get tickets.
Another time, same GTO, later though since I had a hood on it and a full set of seat belts. I was showing off for a girl in the back and proceeded to do 60 in a 45, and swerve through traffic doing it, never using my blinkers and using alot of gas.
I also never looked in the rear view mirror (didnt help the mirror was warn out and would droop). I pulled into a parking lot and the first I noticed him was as he was blocking me in the space and getting out of his car very pissed.
I close my door and put my grab my DL and Reg, (this time its all legal).
I hand them over without him asking and he asks me "you know why I stopped you?"
I look him right in the eye and say "Cause I am incredibly stupid?".
He looks at me in a funny way and walks back to his car.
Come back and says I could site you for all this stuff, and lists it, speeding, fail to use blicker, unsafe lane change etc.
I say "know sir, thats why I am incredibly stupid"
He looks at me for a second, then goes, ok well I am only going to give you one for doing 55 in a 45.
Not sure why, but I guess it was for admiting, honestly that I was a handsomehunk, I meant it too, I was pretty damn digusted with myself.
Honesty probably helps, but some times stupidity mixed with a bit of dishonesty can get you of the hook.
When I was 18 I did a runner from a traffic cop, or at least I tried to.
On a country road a marked patrol car was comming down the road towards me. When the cop slowed down and turned his lights on I knew he knew I was speeding. Dunno why I did it, but I floored the go pedal when I saw him start to do a U turn in the rear view mirror. If That wasn't stupid enough, my car was a lot slower than his and ran me down within half a mile. I thought I was screwed cause I only pulled over when his car filled my rear view mirror. When he asked me why I sped up and took so long to pull over I told him I didn't see him. That was completely lame of course... black+white patrol car, lights , siren...but it was all I could think of, but amazingly he accepted it and only wrote me up a speeding ticket.
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This isn't me, but my best mate.
This mate of mine is a great bloke but he's a bit of a knob on the roads. He has a total disregard for the speed limit most of the time and gets fines accordingly.
Now, he was driving home one night and he'd had a little bit to drink ( I don't think he was wasted, but he wasn't 0.00 ). He lost concentration and veered into a car. He just scraped along the side of the car (it was parked) and no one was hurt, he just ****ed his car up, folded the wheels under the car on the passenger side and did lots of panel damage.
The car would have been a write-off but he drivers a BMW and works for BMW, so he got everything fixed cheap.
ANYWAY, he fled the scene but reported it first thing in the morning (to avoid the DUI probably), so he got booked for reckless driving and fleeing the scene. With this and the fact that he was 1 demerit point away from losing his licence already, he was sent to court and was facing a conviction, minimum 6 months loss of licene and a $3000 fine... so he'd have a criminal record.
Now, fast forward to court day... he walks into the building at the same time as a lady who lost her hold on the bundle of books and paper she was carrying and drops them all over the floor. My mate turns around and comes back to help her pick up all of her stuff.
When he goes into the court room...... who's sitting in the judge's seat? The lady who dropped her books. The judge let my mate off with a warning, which was incredible considering he was told to expect a conviction.
Best escape ever! :aok
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I dont try excuses.
I just wave may hand once between he and I and say "your sorry, you thought I was someone else"
and he says
"Im sorry, I thought you were someone else"
an then he just walks back to his car and drives away :p
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I dont try excuses.
I just wave may hand once between he and I and say "your sorry, you thought I was someone else"
and he says
"Im sorry, I thought you were someone else"
an then he just walks back to his car and drives away :p
you forgot, "these are not the two droids you are looking for" :D
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My wife did this one once.
Wasnt an excuse but it made him laugh enough to let her go.
She got pulled over for speeding. Upon the officer telling her this she responded with
"I dont suppose unbuttoning my shirt and exposing my breasts would help me would it?"
The cop laughed. said "sJust low it down" handed her licence,etc back and walked away
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I dont try excuses.
I just wave may hand once between he and I and say "your sorry, you thought I was someone else"
and he says
"Im sorry, I thought you were someone else"
an then he just walks back to his car and drives away :p
Man that happened to me just the other day.
I drove straight home, stripped down to my skivvies, and sat in a dark closet.
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Originally posted by -Concho-
Man that happened to me just the other day.
I drove straight home, stripped down to my skivvies, and sat in a dark closet.
I know. ;)
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Originally posted by Hornet33
I've never tried to talk my way out of a ticket but have gotten out of them by being respectfull and not giving the officers any crap.
I did help a kid get a ticket awhile back though:D Some punk Navy kid pulled up beside me at a light. I was in the right hand lane and there was a cop sitting at the intersection. Anyway this kid didn't see the cop and he's reving his engine and giving me the old "Lets go" look. I held the brakes on my truck and goosed it a bit so it would jump and then looked over at the cop. He's looking at me with this "your not going to do what I think your going to do" look on his face. I looked back over at this kid and gave him a nod. Light turned green and this kid roasts his tires all the way through the intersection while I sat at the light and let the cop pull out in front of me.
I had to honk the horn and wave as I passed by a block up the road. The cop was laughing and the kid was flipping me the bird. O'well I hate those punks with their little rice burner cars with a trash can muffler hanging out the back. I'm sure the spoiler the size of a garage door really helps on a front wheel drive car. Idiots.
:D Nice one!
those rice burners are jokes, and tose toys would never create the amount of speed necessary to justify welding a barn door in their trunk.
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Never been to a NOPI drag race then, have you?
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Originally posted by -Concho-
LOL,
We're knocking down $100,000.00 to $1,000,000.00 currency seizures off drug runners and we're worried about your piddly $150 speeding ticket.
Right....
Drive right and you'll never hear from us.
You've been watching to much Miami Vice again.
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heh, I was thinking the same thing... what percentage of officers ever made a 100k bust never mind 1mill...
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Originally posted by Vulcan
You've been watching to much Miami Vice again.
originally posted by rabbidrabbit
heh, I was thinking the same thing... what percentage of officers ever made a 100k bust never mind 1mill...
http://leehiphopshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=5920
Oct 5, 2005, 06:52 PM MDT
EL PASO, TX. - Officials with the West Texas Stash House unit make another large drug bust, this time in the Upper Valley. Officers found 961 pounds of marijuana at a house in the 4200 block of Hookheath..
Officers arrested two men, 30-year-old Edgar Ochoa and 31-year-old Jaime Diaz. Both men are charged with Possession of Marijuana. Officials tell ABC-7 that the value of the pot is more than $700,000
Both men are being held at the El Paso County Jail under bonds of $100,000 each.
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SOCORRO, TX. - Border Patrol agents in Fabens and officers from the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) in El Paso siezed more than 7,525 of marijuana from a vehicle and suspected "stash house" in the Lower Valley.
Officials tell ABC-7 that the seizure occurred when Border Patrol agents conducted an immigration stop on a van on Texas Highway 20, west of the Ysleta Port of Entry. The driver brought the van to an abrupt halt and attempted to flee on foot toward the Rio Grande levee.
After a short foot chase, the subject was apprehended. The subject told agents that the van contained marijuana. A subsequent search of the van revealed approximately 2,300 pounds of marijuana.
Working with information from the Texas DPS, agents suspected that this seizure was only part of a larger stash of narcotics. Border Patrol agents and DPS Narcotics officers went to a home in Socorro. Officers theorized that the van left the home earlier in the day.
At the house, four males attempted to flee but were apprehended on the property. Once agents investigated the home, more drugs were found. The drugs found in the home had the same markings as those found in the van earlier the same day.
Agents seized approximately 5,225 pounds of marijuana from the home. Officers tell ABC-7 that the four men, the van and druges were transported to the Texas DPS office where the green leafy substance was weighed and tested positive to marijuana.
The estimated value of the seized drugs is more than $6 million. To date, in fiscal year 2005, agents in the El Paso Sector have made 1,154 drug seizures, valued at approximately $151 million.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
My wife did this one once.
Wasnt an excuse but it made him laugh enough to let her go.
She got pulled over for speeding. Upon the officer telling her this she responded with
"I dont suppose unbuttoning my shirt and exposing my breasts would help me would it?"
The cop laughed. said "sJust low it down" handed her licence,etc back and walked away
Just a reminder to everybody, this tactic ONLY works with MALE police officers.
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Well, I was doing 120 down I-20 when I saw the meatball in the rear view of the VW minbus. I quickly put out the joint and tossed the bong out the passenger window. I popped all 100 hits of the acid I was taking to a Dead concert to sell with the pound of cocaine I just received from my buddy in Peru.
As I was slowing down I sideswiped a church bus full of nuns and sent them off an overpass onto a bus full of war heroes returning from a PTSD convention. Luckily the Coke went with them. As I was spinning to a stop I hit a homeless man and sent him through the windshield of some lady's car. She was so scared she kept on driving.
The minibus rolled twice and landed on it's tires on the side of the interstate. The cop approached with his gun pulled and anger in his eyes. But I screamed out... "I know Concho!"
We had a good laugh after that.
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the rest of it maybe, but 120 in a VW minibus? yeah right....
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
The accompanying $10,000 dollars in increased insurance rates is not.
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Now, I've seen a couple of posts of yours touting that your insurance went up $10000. I personally think that's crap. I think that it's an embellishment on your part, and not a little one. What kind of citation was it exactly? I got a DUI one time in which i received 3 seperate charges. I got DUI, DUI.16 (for blowing more than 2 times the legal limit), and Reckless Endangerment (for having people in the car with me when I did it).
My insurance went up a whopping $400 per year. So I ask, what exactly did you do, run into a crowded market of people and kill about 10? If you're gonna make stuff up, at least make it not so obvious.
As for the BS you're spouting about the so-called "dirty cops", once again, crap. My wife used to be a dispatcher for the local Sheriffs Dept here, and as a result, I think i've ridden along with over half of them. Almost all of them are the same. They don't want to have to write tickets, they use the speed for PC to pull you over to check for warrants, drugs, etc. The only reason that they give tickets is if you are doing something completely moronic, or you are a real bellybutton during the course of the stop. It seems to me that you don't realize, or don't care that your diarrhea of the mouth is doing nothing but offending the very people who make it the goal of their professional life to make sure that you're safe in your bed when you sleep at night.
So, to you sir, peddle your crap somewhere else.
To all of our LEO's here, a big
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Originally posted by dmf
Just a reminder to everybody, this tactic ONLY works with MALE police officers.
HA, anyone seen the new Danica Patrick commercial? Classic, but after a quick search, didn't find it. I'll look a little harder later. :aok
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Originally posted by Helrazr1
As for the BS you're spouting about the so-called "dirty cops", once again, crap. My wife used to be a dispatcher for the local Sheriffs Dept here, and as a result, I think i've ridden along with over half of them. Almost all of them are the same. They don't want to have to write tickets, they use the speed for PC to pull you over to check for warrants, drugs, etc. The only reason that they give tickets is if you are doing something completely moronic, or you are a real bellybutton during the course of the stop. It seems to me that you don't realize, or don't care that your diarrhea of the mouth is doing nothing but offending the very people who make it the goal of their professional life to make sure that you're safe in your bed when you sleep at night.
So, to you sir, peddle your crap somewhere else.
To all of our LEO's here, a big
Just to make sure this is perfectly understood (and as opposed to Benny's posts), NZ cops HAVE to ticket you if you are pulled over for speeding. They also are not participating in regular drug busts, and if they fail to meet 'the-quotes-that-don't-exist' they get pulled from highway duties.
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Poor Vulcan :cry
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Originally posted by dmf
Just a reminder to everybody, this tactic ONLY works with MALE police officers.
I should try it some time.
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I flashed a cop to get out of a ticket once. It worked, but for some reason he walked away crying?:confused:
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Thanks Airscrew.
It happens all the time. I would say everyday.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Well, I was doing 120 down I-20 when I saw the meatball in the rear view of the VW minbus. I quickly put out the joint and tossed the bong out the passenger window. I popped all 100 hits of the acid I was taking to a Dead concert to sell with the pound of cocaine I just received from my buddy in Peru.
As I was slowing down I sideswiped a church bus full of nuns and sent them off an overpass onto a bus full of war heroes returning from a PTSD convention. Luckily the Coke went with them. As I was spinning to a stop I hit a homeless man and sent him through the windshield of some lady's car. She was so scared she kept on driving.
The minibus rolled twice and landed on it's tires on the side of the interstate. The cop approached with his gun pulled and anger in his eyes. But I screamed out... "I know Concho!"
We had a good laugh after that.
The mere mention o fmy name in these parts might land you in jail....
Besides all these crooked cops might of took your drugs and kicked you ass... or worse yet jack up you insurance premiums..
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This is from 1999.
Seizure Stats (http://www.cbp.gov/hot-new/pressrel/1999/1115-00.htm)
This is just the customs service. Has nothing to do with us (DPS).
Miami Vice, indeed.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Monday, November 15th, 1999
U.S. CUSTOMS ANNUAL DRUG & MONEY SEIZURE STATISTICS
HOUSTON, TX - U.S. Customs Special Agents brought a Brownsville man before a federal magistrate this morning following his arrest in connection with a failed outbound currency smuggling attempt at the Hidalgo Port of Entry.
U.S. Customs Agents and Inspectors seized more narcotics in Texas during fiscal year 1999, which ended September 30, than last fiscal year. Cocaine seized nearly tripled in the East and West Texas areas of the state. Marihuana seizures increased in all areas of the state.
In the East Texas area of responsibility, the amount of cocaine seized was 24,477 pounds compared to 6,440 pounds seized in the area that includes Houston, Dallas, the Gulf Coast and the state of Oklahoma last year. Agents and officers seized exceptionally large loads of cocaine stored on motor vessels coming into the port of Houston this year, e.g., the 9,958 pounds seized from the motor vessel "Cannes" in January 1999. Over 16,000 pounds of marihuana were seized, a nearly 10,000 pound increase over last year. Customs Inspectors at Bush Intercontinental Airport and DFW Airport combined seized 52 pounds of heroin, more heroin seized than at any other port of entry in the state. However, the amount of heroin seized decreased from 101 pounds last year. Other Texas ports of entry reported the same trend of lower amounts of heroin seized than last year.
Seized currency in the East Texas area totaled $9,190,374, a decrease from $17,449,625 seized in the area last year. More money was seized along the border area, with a large chunk seized during southbound operations at the ports of entry. South Texas seizures of currency totaled $21,351,582. The South Texas area includes ports of entry from San Antonio south to Brownsville and west to Del Rio. West Texas officers and agents seized $1,465,274 in the El Paso, Fabens, Presidio and New Mexico ports/areas.
DRUG & MONEY SEIZURE STATISTICS, U.S. CUSTOMS SERVICE
FISCAL YEAR 1999
Heroin Cocaine Marijuana Currency
EAST TEXAS
(includes Houston, Dallas, TX Gulf Coast, and Oklahoma) 52 24,477 16,258 $9,190,374
SOUTH TEXAS
(includes ports at San Antonio south to Brownsville and west to Del Rio) 32 12,127 175,212 21,351,582
WEST TEXAS
(includes ports at El Paso, Presidio, Fabens, and New Mexico) 40 7,547 261,434 1,465,274
(Drug seizures are stated in pounds)
FISCAL YEAR 1998
EAST TEXAS 101 8,043 6,440 17,449,625
SOUTH TEXAS 64 14,844 137,591 14,667,037
WEST TEXAS 66 2,663 211,746 1,717,803
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Originally posted by mentalguy
I should try it some time.
you show your bare chest to a cop he's gonna shoot you
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Originally posted by dmf
you show your bare chest to a cop he's gonna shoot you
unless he's in San Fransisco
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You know, I did get a ticket the night I proposed to my X. Politeness doesn't always work.
I should have taken it as a sign from the gods.
On the flip side I got my Lab that night and she has been the best dog ever.
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Originally posted by Airscrew
unless he's in San Fransisco
eeeewwww
thats like 15 kinds of worng
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Originally posted by Airscrew
unless he's in San Fransisco
In that case bring some astroglide or a stick of butter.
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excuse me while I go hurl up some dinner.
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Or a gerbil, did you know that more gerbils are sold per capita in San Francisco than anywhere else in the US? By a margin of 4x it seems.
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Originally posted by mandingo
MY WIFE IS PREGNANT!
Congrats Mandingo