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Title: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: rcguyme on February 19, 2007, 08:02:28 AM
I was just trying to figger out what happend last night got booted must have been 6 times while in the game. most of the time  it said server problem other times it said server went to TCP then i tryed to reconnect to the same game point were i was and it said closed is this what i have to look forward to when i finish my free trail and have to pay for the month.
first i bought the game disk from the company never downloaded from the site and i use wireless not TCP or Dialup and some of the planes/trucks/jeep/tanks/ect ect I do not have the option to be able to use is this a test or what you call free trail/lol lol (DO NOT THINK SO). someone explain this action to me before i decided to pay for this problem!!!!!
Title: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: Jonny boy 8 on February 19, 2007, 08:05:02 AM
whats your internet?
















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Title: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: hubsonfire on February 19, 2007, 08:05:57 AM
Problems on sundays are not uncommon.
Title: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: rcguyme on February 19, 2007, 08:13:57 AM
I use wireless not cable not dialup my speed is 100mbps if that is not fast enought i do not know what to say."ba Ha"
Title: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: Jonny boy 8 on February 19, 2007, 08:18:00 AM
i use wireless too but i use roadrunner. (whoa its fast) how new is your computer any way.
 














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Title: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: Shuffler on February 19, 2007, 08:19:25 AM
I think your a bit confused.... you may use wireless in your home... at which point your not running at 100mbps. What is your connection to the outside world.

By the way.. wireless is not the premium way to hook up a network.. but it keeps you from having to run hard wire through your home if it was not built in.
Title: Re: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: Vulcan on February 19, 2007, 02:33:44 PM
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Originally posted by rcguyme
and i use wireless not TCP or Dialup


Ahhh before you start throwing bricks in glass houses I'd suggest some research. As above, you are using TCP, and wireless is not as stable as a wired connection - it is subject to all sorts of interference problems.
Title: Re: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: WMLute on February 19, 2007, 03:07:14 PM
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Originally posted by rcguyme
I was just trying to figger out what happend last night got booted must have been 6 times while in the game. most of the time  it said server problem other times it said server went to TCP then i tryed to reconnect to the same game point were i was and it said closed is this what i have to look forward to when i finish my free trail and have to pay for the month.
first i bought the game disk from the company never downloaded from the site and i use wireless not TCP or Dialup and some of the planes/trucks/jeep/tanks/ect ect I do not have the option to be able to use is this a test or what you call free trail/lol lol (DO NOT THINK SO). someone explain this action to me before i decided to pay for this problem!!!!!

"Wireless" is a Network Connection, not an Internet connection.

What type of Internet Connection do you connect via wireless to?

Couple questions, as you made almost no sense in what you posted.

most of the time  it said server problem
There ARE no messages in game that say anything about a server.  So please explain exactly what you mean.

It WILL say LOST UDP SWITCH TO TCP which means you have a problem somewhere between your computer and AH that caused you to lose your UDP connection to the AcesHigh server (which is bad).

some of the planes/trucks/jeep/tanks/ect ect I do not have the option to be able to use some planes/tanks/bombers require "perk points" to be able to fly them.  You earn perks by blowing stuff up (planes, tanks, buildings etc).

Also, if you are at a TANK base, you can't use planes.  Sometimes at the field you are at, the enemy destroys the Vehicle/Fighter/Bomber Hangers and you are unable to use a Vehicle/Fighter/Bomber until they repair (15min ish).

AcesHigh has a most wonderful Help Section.  This Forum has a Help-Training section.  Use it.  AcesHigh has a Trainers Corps that really can help a new player figure out what they are doing.

This is a tough game to learn.  You won't get "good" in a week.  Or a month.  Or probably a year.  Hence the appeal.  We have players that have flown this, or other similar WW2 flight sim's for decades and are still terrible (y'all know who ya' are).  The learning curve is QUITE steep, but it's well worth it.

Trainers@flyaceshigh.com  email the trainers and setup some time for some 1 on 1 training.

(edit: and wireless is a HORRIBLE way to connect to whatever internet connection you use.  The new Wireless N standard is getting better, but wired is still the way to go)
Title: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: tedrbr on February 19, 2007, 03:08:23 PM
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Originally posted by Shuffler
I think your a bit confused.... you may use wireless in your home... at which point your not running at 100mbps. What is your connection to the outside world.

By the way.. wireless is not the premium way to hook up a network.. but it keeps you from having to run hard wire through your home if it was not built in.


And wireless is generally less secure than wired networks.  I can fire up my laptop and access 4 out of 9 of my neighbor's networks from the house.  I checked once and found 34 unsecured networks on the 6 mile drive from house to my college one time (at band camp...).

Also Cable (which is often just a neighborhood "network") is generally a little less secure than DSL, due to exposure to other unsecured computers on the network.  Cable throughput tends to vary more due to how many people are on that network, where DSL is more predictable, so the cable speeds listed are usually higher than the throughput you'll actually experience.

I'd rather run the cable plant in the house and not have to worry about the folks "wardriving" out there, and I'd rather run DSL so joker down the street's computer problems don't effect my throughput, or open mine up to more attacks than what I have to put up with anyways.

Having a dedicated Router with a Firewall is also a good idea in addition to the device used to connect to the internet.  

I've got a wireless (WAP) for my network, on a DMZ, for working out on the deck and such, since it IS convenient at times, but I don't leave it powered on, and only my two laptops have authorization to use it by MAC address..... but it usually stays powered off.
Title: Re: Re: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: REP0MAN on February 19, 2007, 10:49:05 PM
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Originally posted by WMLute
"Wireless" is a Network Connection, not an Internet connection. snip....


It could be if he is using the neighbors.....

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Re: Re: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: WMLute on February 19, 2007, 10:57:08 PM
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Originally posted by REP0MAN
It could be if he is using the neighbors.....

Just a thought.

lol

even w/ that scenario the Wireless is only a Gateway to his neighbors Internet Connection.


Good Thinkin' tho'
Title: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: rcguyme on February 19, 2007, 11:24:54 PM
See Rule #4, #5
Title: Re: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: jon on February 19, 2007, 11:41:15 PM
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Originally posted by rcguyme
See Rules #4, #5

Dont get down on the people you asked for help.  WMLUTE knows what he is talking about it would pay to listen to him. Also you could call skuzzy at hitetch creations or Support Email: support@hitechcreations.com
HiTech Creations, Inc.
625 W. College St., Suite 200
Grapevine, TX 76051

(817) 251-1540
(817) 251- 6731 fax
Title: Re: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: Roscoroo on February 20, 2007, 01:02:35 AM
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Originally posted by rcguyme
See Rules #4, #5



wow ... and you want help ??? or answers ... this isnt the way to ask for it ..
Title: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: NHawk on February 20, 2007, 04:58:16 AM
Guys, please be very careful about what you're talking about. Just because you haven't heard of or seen something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I use to have wireless broadband in Illinois and it was a 100mb connection to the modem/antenna on a 1500/1500 wireless system. I only got the high speed because I was right on top of their main antenna.

http://www.db3broadband.com/equipment/index.htm

Now, if this is the type of connection rcguyme is talking about I can say from experience it's usually very stable. BUT, in very heavy snowfall or rainfall it can slow WAY down causing the switch to TCP. If your provider offers private speed/performance tests, and this happens again run them. You'll most likely find a problem on your provider's end. At least that's what I always found and they were always quick to repair the problem.

Also, if there is a heavy load on the tower you're pointed at it will cause a slow down and lost packets on your end causing the switch to TCP. Your provider can also tell if this is the case and either allocate more bandwidth to the tower or point your antenna to a tower with less of a load on it.

The inability to use certain planes, etc could be because of the arena you're in. The early war arena is limited to early war planes. Mid-war is mid war planes. Late war has all planes/vehicles available. If you get a message saying you can't fly a plane with a value less than 10 (or any other number), it means side balancing is in effect and there are too many players for your country in the arena.
Title: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: The Fugitive on February 20, 2007, 06:17:06 AM
easy rcguy !! You came here looking for some help, and answers, but gave very little information. Most of the answers you got are suggestions you can check into because of the lack of information. Its like you called up a garage and said "my car is making a noise, its blue and has 4 doors, Whats wrong?" See what I mean?

Nobodies giving you a hard time..... yet :D  They just trying to help you get the most out of this great game.
Title: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: Ghosth on February 20, 2007, 07:38:38 AM
Well I don't know about where you guys live, but the city across the river from me is running a municipal ISP thats wireless.

Reasonably priced, can take a laptop virtually anywhere, and still be on your acct.
My buddy Tank1 tried it but it had a few problems for flying AH. Stability issues are the biggest problem, along with higher ping times aka latency.

So yes he COULD have a wireless ISP.

On the other hand RCguy, don't lose your cool. Your alienating the guys who can help. Not to mention setting your reputation for what kind of a person you are.
I understand your frustrated, but chill down.

Best bet at this point is going to be to call HTC ask for roy.
9-5 central time, be POLITE! The man has some awesome skills but is seriously overworked. 817-251-1540

You may want to shop around for a better connect.
FYI from what I've seen DSL has the best connect as far as stability goes.
Cable tends to overload its networks at least up here. Cables good if your playing off prime time.

Plus the internet as a whole has been very iffy during prime time.
Just too many users on not enough bandwidth, backbones get choked up like a freeway at rush hour. What used to go 70 is now doing 30.
Title: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: falcon23 on February 20, 2007, 08:11:01 PM
I have problems quite often with aces high telling me LOST UDP SWITCH TO TCP ,but I am on satellite and after speaking with skuzzy,who by the way  is good at answering all the banal questions he probably receives in e-mail:aok .it is due to my latency,,and after running pingplotter,I find that during certain times I drop so many packets it is suprising that I can even get on..and some of those times I drop so many I cannot get on,and I dont try.I just know what times I can play and what times I cant.

  My problems are usually that it is hard for me to dog-fight as I get warping..I wish I could say that it happens all the time,then I would have a great excuse for getting shot down all the time.:furious ..but alas that is not always the case.

 So what do I do to make up for my weakness in lag time??? I am becoming a lancaster flying fool...:rofl ..screw it I say,if you cant take down the fighters one on one..Just take out the hangars...:aok ...someone,somewhere is always looking for 14,000lbs of bombs.:D

                                                            later,
                                                               Kevin
Title: Re: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: tedrbr on February 21, 2007, 06:01:53 PM
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Originally posted by rcguyme
See Rule #4, #5



Nice calm response.

At a GUESS, ... and only a guess with info provided......I'd say he may be running WiMAX then, as his ISP.   Then speed is not the problem, but dropped packets, interference, whether or not the uplink is over the phone, obstacles between his home and the receiver station...... something in his connection is creting the problems.  

Also, are the problems pretty common, or limited to times like Sunday night when higher traffic creates higher problems for all.
Title: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: Skuzzy on March 06, 2007, 11:59:47 AM
This is easy.  Any wireless connection is going to have bit errors on it.  Using TCP protocols, those errors get masked.  As UDP is a stateless protocol, any error in the data stream means a lost packet.

The switch from UDP to TCP is always triggered by excessive packet loss on the connection.  Every router between you and the servers can cause packet loss.  Your immediate connection does not have to be the culprit.

We have no control over the Internet or how data gets routed.  Truth be told, there is always a lot of problems with the Internet when weather has been as bad as it has this winter.

But, this is all conjecture and speculation.  It is easy for anyone to find out where the data/packet loss is happening.  PingPlotter (http://www.pingplotter.com) is a good utility for those who are not network geeks.  At least it can show gross problems over the Internet.

Simply stating, "my connection sucks!", is not going to help anyone and is not going to provide enough information to even try and help make it better.  How much help do you think an automotive mechanic is going to be if you just tell him, "my car is making noise!" and then leave it at that?
Title: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: bj229r on March 11, 2007, 12:59:23 PM
Even my 45k dialup/188 ms ping works great here---as long as kid stays off AOL on here pc (router is after my pc)

(I'd guess his net-stat thingie off of the right-click menu is all over the place too)
Title: Re: wireless/TPC/dialup ha
Post by: Denholm on March 13, 2007, 12:20:20 PM
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Originally posted by rcguyme
... someone explain this action to me before i decided to pay for this problem!!!!!

You don't necessarily have to pay. 8-Player is a free alternative to the Online Arenas. You still get to play with others, except it's only 8 per arena. And it's 100% free.