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Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: Kuhn on February 19, 2007, 01:09:32 PM
I was over friendly troop base, just about to pull the trigger on the only con in the area and poof, towered. :mad:  :furious
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: DREDger on February 19, 2007, 01:14:20 PM
bummer...did you film it?

Just asking cause makes me wonder if

1.  there was another enemy u didn't see that shot you down.
2.  was a zone base captured and you didn't realize it when the troop factory changed.
3.  maybe a ground gv got a lucky shot on u?
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: KINGcobra on February 19, 2007, 01:16:35 PM
:rofl that happened to me i was sitting on a cv with a C-hog rearming and a 37mm off the cruser gives me a PW :furious :cry
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: Kuhn on February 19, 2007, 01:24:30 PM
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Originally posted by DREDger
bummer...did you film it?

Just asking cause makes me wonder if

1.  there was another enemy u didn't see that shot you down.
2.  was a zone base captured and you didn't realize it when the troop factory changed.
3.  maybe a ground gv got a lucky shot on u?


Wasn,t any of those. Only possible thing I may have done is shot a freindly. Wish I had film. Thing is the friendly was 800 ahead of me and the hurri 2 was 200 away. I was in a 109. Usualy cant hit a thing at 800.
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: Ball on February 19, 2007, 01:26:43 PM
I am sure HT keeps puffy ack as it is, just to smite me.

:mad:  :D

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=156370

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=124842
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: Oleg on February 19, 2007, 02:07:49 PM
AI acks can hit friendly. Manned acks can not.
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: ROC on February 19, 2007, 02:38:07 PM
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Thing is the friendly was 800 ahead of me and the hurri 2 was 200 away. I was in a 109. Usualy cant hit a thing at 800.


Ahh HA, there is the problem, right there.  Pure scientific fact.  

When you fire a gun, you "Must", by the laws of physics, either hit something or miss something.  Correct?

Ok, moving on, since you Usually Don't Hit anything at 800 this supposes that since tracked, it is something you Try to do.  Try to hit an object at 800, and Miss.

Logic dictates that the opposite held true here.  If you aim for something and miss, then it's inevitable that you will hit what you did not aim for.

Proof, the friendly 800 away from you :).  Clearly, you did not aim for him, you aimed for the enemy 200 out.

So knowing this, your K/D should improve greatly if you start aiming for the air Around your target :D

I am available for book signings.
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: APDrone on February 19, 2007, 02:44:25 PM
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Originally posted by ROC

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I am available for book signings.


Will your sequal cover the theory of flight based on strapping cats with buttered bread ( buttered side outwards ) attached to their backs underneath the aircraft?

:rofl
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: ROC on February 19, 2007, 03:06:35 PM
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Will your sequal cover the theory of flight based on strapping cats with buttered bread ( buttered side outwards ) attached to their backs underneath the aircraft?


Yes, as a matter of fact, it will.  And I will be adding your name to the credits as you performed this perfectly last FSO and the film came out flawless!  :D
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: Kuhn on February 19, 2007, 05:14:47 PM
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Originally posted by ROC
Ahh HA, there is the problem, right there.  Pure scientific fact.  

When you fire a gun, you "Must", by the laws of physics, either hit something or miss something.  Correct?

Ok, moving on, since you Usually Don't Hit anything at 800 this supposes that since tracked, it is something you Try to do.  Try to hit an object at 800, and Miss.

Logic dictates that the opposite held true here.  If you aim for something and miss, then it's inevitable that you will hit what you did not aim for.

Proof, the friendly 800 away from you :).  Clearly, you did not aim for him, you aimed for the enemy 200 out
So knowing this, your K/D should improve greatly if you start aiming for the air Around your target :D

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But I'm already quite proficient at hitting the air around the target when I aim the way you described. Even though your logic seems logical, when aiming for the air that is where the projectile goes.

:D
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: VVV on February 19, 2007, 06:47:08 PM
I've been hit too by the CV ack. Lost 4 kills. :(
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: APDrone on February 19, 2007, 07:15:37 PM
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Originally posted by ROC
Yes, as a matter of fact, it will.  And I will be adding your name to the credits as you performed this perfectly last FSO and the film came out flawless!  :D



Hey now... I thought we agreed that never happened..

I paid good carrots for that!! ( Hutch money )
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: ROC on February 19, 2007, 08:02:34 PM
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I paid good carrots for that!!


Carrots?  *brrp*  What Carrots??
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: 715 on February 19, 2007, 08:30:15 PM
The sole time I ever saw friendly AI puffy ack from the CV hit anything whatsoever, it was me.  (I was closely following an enemy target at the time.  I guess the AI didn't want me to steal its kill.)
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: Widewing on February 19, 2007, 10:11:47 PM
Flak does not respect friendly aircraft. It didn't in real life and it doesn't here. You have to keep that in mind whenever following an enemy into a flak unbrella, especially over carrier groups.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: REP0MAN on February 19, 2007, 10:55:03 PM
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Originally posted by Widewing
Flak does not respect friendly aircraft. It didn't in real life and it doesn't here. You have to keep that in mind whenever following an enemy into a flak unbrella, especially over carrier groups.

My regards,

Widewing


Ahhhh, the voice of reason. I was curious where this was going. Thanks Widewing.

:aok
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: skycaptn on February 19, 2007, 11:30:35 PM
Was chasing a set of ar234's to a cv group once.. jumped them on teh bombing run killed two and was finishing off the last one in my 262 when suddenly my left wing tip came off... The enemy plane flew thru the ack unscathed and I lost my bird due to friendly fire.. it was not a pleasant experience.
Title: Re: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: VSkwidd on February 20, 2007, 02:05:25 AM
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Originally posted by Kuhn
I was over friendly troop base, just about to pull the trigger on the only con in the area and poof, towered. :mad:  :furious


Yeah, i had a fear of puffy ack for a few weeks...
i'd fly a bomb mission forever then get all the way to drop point and start exploding...
so i started turning around every single time i caught puffy ack
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: DarkS1ar on February 20, 2007, 06:01:46 AM
It was a lovely sunny Sunday morning with a wind speed of 0 and the weather called for low enemy contact over the enemy HQ.  Seeing this great opportunity I grabbed an rv8 to photograph and do recon for the up coming allied bombing mission which now seemed inevitable.
 
All Data had been gathered, and as I was getting ready to RTB when all of a sudden my eye caught a glimpse of a high Hog diving in from 4 ‘o’ clock.  In an act desperation and panic I pushed my nose down banked hard to the Right and gave it full rudder till I saw nothing but a tunnel vision, all this time hoping that he would miss.  As he dove behind and under firing his guns I did a quick check for damage, the left aileron along with one of the landing gear had gone missing.

He climbed back up to get in position for another pass.  This guy is not a bad shot, not going to make home this run I thought  ……….…

http://sharedzilla.com/en/get?id=75345
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: Kuhn on February 20, 2007, 09:58:44 AM
Thanks for your replies. I don't remember reports of friendly ack hitting friendly targets. Now I know better. :D
Title: Downed by friendly puffy ack
Post by: LYNX on February 20, 2007, 10:02:38 AM
Ive been hit by both types of friendly on more than a few occasion.  Mostly when close in on a con but just 2 days ago CV machine guns hit me on take off as a 110 suicided an escort ship.  No structural damage that time:rolleyes: