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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Red Tail 444 on February 20, 2007, 04:35:06 PM
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This can't be good.
UK Prime Minister Tony Blair will announce on Wednesday a new timetable for withdrawing British troops from Iraq, with 1,500 to return home in several weeks, the British Broadcasting Corp. reports
Source: cnn.com
If our top ally in this fight's packing it in, it's clear we'll soon be the only significant force in Iraq.
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
If our top ally in this fight's packing it in, it's clear we'll soon be the only significant force in Iraq.
It's clear that the U.S. has been the only significant force in Iraq since the very beginning. I think U.S. forces have outnumbered Brits at least 10 to 1.
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In almost ever single conflict America has been in we have out number any allied country that came to help us in a joint force. In Korea America out numbered the brits and other countries there. In Vietnam we out number the other countries that came to help (didn't UK send some troops) In the Gulf War we out numbered all the other countries that sent troops. I don't know about the Bosnia conflict. Now we out number everyone that is in Afganistan and Iraq.
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
British troops from Iraq, with 1,500 to return home in several weeks
bout time, but unfortunately to late for many.
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yes old boy, they need the troops back in england to march in the queens birthday parade. good show what. pip pip hazza.
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UK army much smaller than american one, so the percentages are about the same, even though you have more...
most of the UK army serves as a peacekeeping force in countries where there's been civil war etc. very rarely is the british army used in actual war nowadays, that's the US's job...
i for one are glad they're coming home. i'm not an anti war guy, and support all the troops out there, but it's time our guys came home, it's not our war, it's america's. we're your allies, we helped out, but it's time for us to move on. time for the iraqis to take control of their own country, which is right.
as for vietnam voowho, that was entirely america, we here have no problem with commies, they can govern their country how they like as long as attacking us is not part of their plans...
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Originally posted by john9001
yes old boy, they need the troops back in england to march in the queens birthday parade. good show what. pip pip hazza.
just like america is sending more out to prove they are still teh l337 superpower
one good thing i hope to come out of the invasion of iraq, a changed attitude in american foreign policy, perhaps they'll try to be more delicate and less gung-ho now, i think i've noticed a slight shift in the last few years
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
i for one are glad they're coming home. i'm not an anti war guy, and support all the troops out there, but it's time our guys came home, it's not our war, it's america's. we're your allies, we helped out,
"it's not our war", yeah , i feel the same about WW2, that was englands war, what a waste it was to send american troops and arms to invade europe in WW2.
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Oh yeah... OIF and WW2 have so many many similarities. It's just astounding.
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Originally posted by john9001
"it's not our war", yeah , i feel the same about WW2, that was englands war, what a waste it was to send american troops and arms to invade europe in WW2.
nah, that was the world's war, hence the name world war... had you guys not entered it you would eventually have to fight, but england defended herself just fine, although we are eternally thankful for the help recieved ;)
the fact is, that it was america's idea to invade iraq, and we, being your allies gladly offered to help in an effort to protect world peace and freedom. our job is over now, it is time for us to bring our boys home. it's up to iraqi forces to take control of their country now, under the watchful eye of american troops, who are assisting in peacekeeping and training.
britain helped with the invasion and peacekeeping efforts. our boys have been out there a long time, they're tired, we're bringing them home.
you guys wanna complain about us finally bringing our guys home, next time we won't bother to help, for fear of more moaning when we realise the job is done and pack up...
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Grabs his popcorn and Soda....Sits agaisnt the wall...and waits...this may get good.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Oh yeah... OIF and WW2 have so many many similarities. It's just astounding.
precisely, i hate it when dumb dweebs keep saying 'well we saved yo bellybutton in dubya budya twooo!'
iraq has nothing to do with WW2. quite simply, iraq was america's war, everyone knows that, we just helped out, as you would help us in a similar situation i hope. our job is done, we're leaving, you guys clean up, it is your war afterall.
if you take offence from that john, well, bite me.
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"nah, that was the world's war, hence the name world war"
it was the worlds war because england could not defeat germany and japan and had to beg for the help of the USA.
the mighty british empire was laid waste in WW2. go back to your tiny little island off the coast of France.
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
precisely, i hate it when dumb dweebs keep saying 'well we saved yo bellybutton in dubya budya twooo!'
iraq has nothing to do with WW2. quite simply, iraq was america's war, everyone knows that, we just helped out, as you would help us in a similar situation i hope. our job is done, we're leaving, you guys clean up, it is your war afterall.
if you take offence from that john, well, bite me.
Well said. Thanks for the help.:aok
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Originally posted by john9001
"nah, that was the world's war, hence the name world war"
it was the worlds war because england could not defeat germany and japan and had to beg for the help of the USA.
the mighty british empire was laid waste in WW2. go back to your tiny little island off the coast of France.
no....... it was a world war because it involved the whole world, not because amreeka saved the planet, team america style, f@#k yeah!!!
england held back the nazi's on it's own just fine thanks. america eventually arrived to help bomb factories and invade occupied france, which was, like i've said, a huge help of course, and swung the war in our favour, but the war was not won by america, it was won by the allies, an alliance which has lasted many years between our countries.
and the british empire was never really an empire, it was a trade and commerce domination, much like america's economic domination from the 40's to the 2000's. soon though, china's empire will take over. i think it's fitting though that the british empire lasted hundreds of years on the back of sailships while america couldn't hold their edge for more than a few decades with all of modern technology's wonderful frivolities to help them.
the simple fact of life is, that nothing lasts forever, even the great united states. soon some chinese dude will tell you to crawl back to your tiny little trailer, you'll remeber this post, and think, god i'm an idiot...
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Originally posted by VooWho
In almost ever single conflict America has been in we have out number any allied country that came to help us in a joint force. In Korea America out numbered the brits and other countries there. In Vietnam we out number the other countries that came to help (didn't UK send some troops) In the Gulf War we out numbered all the other countries that sent troops. I don't know about the Bosnia conflict. Now we out number everyone that is in Afganistan and Iraq.
Point of note RE: Vietnam, The UK had some trops there on unoffical basis, training the american forces on Counter Isurgency techniques, they also worked with some of the Austrailan forced there in the field of such things as using hypnotism as was to interrogate some of the bad guys.
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Originally posted by john9001
yes old boy, they need the troops back in england to march in the queens birthday parade. good show what. pip pip hazza.
Another little point of order, you guys have the cermenonial guards to handle the funerals and the unknown soldier memorial, no real difference there, you also have that marine silent drill team the last time i checked, there's no real difference there.
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It appears as though the Democrats have infiltrated Parliment...:noid
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
no....... it was a world war because it involved the whole world, not because amreeka saved the planet, team america style, f@#k yeah!!!
england held back the nazi's on it's own just fine thanks. america eventually arrived to help bomb factories and invade occupied france, which was, like i've said, a huge help of course, and swung the war in our favour, but the war was not won by america, it was won by the allies, an alliance which has lasted many years between our countries.
and the british empire was never really an empire, it was a trade and commerce domination, much like america's economic domination from the 40's to the 2000's. soon though, china's empire will take over. i think it's fitting though that the british empire lasted hundreds of years on the back of sailships while america couldn't hold their edge for more than a few decades with all of modern technology's wonderful frivolities to help them.
the simple fact of life is, that nothing lasts forever, even the great united states. soon some chinese dude will tell you to crawl back to your tiny little trailer, you'll remeber this post, and think, god i'm an idiot...
Ladies and gentlemen, may I present to you:
REVISIONIST HISTORY AT IT'S FINEST!
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
i for one are glad they're coming home. i'm not an anti war guy, and support all the troops out there, but it's time our guys came home, it's not our war, it's america's. we're your allies, we helped out, but it's time for us to move on. time for the iraqis to take control of their own country, which is right.
I can see your point in bringing the Brit troops home and respect it.
In fact I agree. The Brits did their part
No hard feelings
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
and the british empire was never really an empire,
Boggles the mind.
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Originally posted by john9001
"nah, that was the world's war, hence the name world war"
it was the worlds war because england could not defeat germany and japan and had to beg for the help of the USA.
I have little doubt that had not Germany declared war on America after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, America would not have sent a single GI to help the British.
America joined the war to save her own ass.
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Nothing good can happen in this thread... I hope it gets locked soon.
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I think the Brits have done an outstanding job considering their limited numbers and the relative stability of the region under their control. If Blair wants to bring his forces home I think he can do well and be justifiable in proclaiming their mission a success, overall. My thoughts are always with those from the United Kingdom that gave their lives in service to their country.
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Originally posted by Viking
I have little doubt that had not Germany declared war on America after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, America would not have sent a single GI to help the British.
America joined the war to save her own ass.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Roosevelt was arming / training the US for the "European conflict" long before Pearl Harbor.
The US had already instituted the draft and was training hundreds of thousands of combat troops before Pearl.
Shipyards and military industries were expanding exponentially.
Not to mention the Lend-Lease Act that was providing aid to Britain and China before any hostilities arose.
Roosevelt and Churchill had already discussed and agreed upon a "Germany first" policy when war came, knowing that a showdown with the Axis partner Japan was imminent (due to the US-led embargo against them).
The idea of American unpreparedness for the war is mostly myth. We were going to war eventually. Pearl just accelerated the timetable and silenced most of the isolationist opposition to it.
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Originally posted by john9001
"nah, that was the world's war, hence the name world war"
it was the worlds war because england could not defeat germany and japan and had to beg for the help of the USA.
the mighty british empire was laid waste in WW2. go back to your tiny little island off the coast of France.
This has to be the most narrow minded thing I have ever read anywhere. Not to mention the dumbest. Props for ignorance.
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http://www.army.mod.uk/deployments/index.htm
Originally posted by john9001
"nah, that was the world's war, hence the name world war"
it was the worlds war because england could not defeat germany and japan and had to beg for the help of the USA.
the mighty british empire was laid waste in WW2. go back to your tiny little island off the coast of France.
Beg for help? you only joined in because the Japanese bombed you, and then Germany declared war on you.
Laid waste? we were in it from 1939 - pretty much 1942 on our own.
What an ignorant, disrespectful jerk.
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well done you pommy buggers, a truly excellent and highly professional force - should go home with alot of pride...
...now hopefully our diggers will be withdrawn...which is highly unlikely considering our PM makes Tony Blair look like Saddam Hussein when it comes to George W..
Tronsky
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^ Heh.
He is rather stuck though, even without the U.K.'s action. Rudd can actually say "bring 'em home" with impunity, Howard's painfully stuck on the "courage" sound-bite.
Who knows, maybe Peter Garrett will get caught with some groupie, and settle the matter (though that's likely to settle it in Labour's favour...)