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Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: skycaptn on February 21, 2007, 08:27:36 AM
See Rules #5, #9
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: skycaptn on February 21, 2007, 08:51:25 AM
See Rule #5
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: DREDger on February 21, 2007, 08:54:45 AM
dunno dude, not sure what your trying to accomplish with this post....you guys had a 200 arguement about this or that and want everyone to know?
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: skycaptn on February 21, 2007, 08:57:32 AM
See Rule #5
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: ClevMan on February 21, 2007, 08:58:14 AM
This incident is nothing new...  It happens every night in the MA...  I just don't see how this is being constructive.  I've flown against pacerr for a while and he's a pretty stand up guy.

Ya might want to figure out a different way to handle problems on 200 (i.e- detune it) or send an email to HTC
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: SkyRock on February 21, 2007, 09:04:50 AM
Pacerr shot you down, you bailed successfully, you got mad, you re-upped, and rammed him out of vengance but your FE saw it as he colliding with you!  I think this has been hashed out before, but just because you got the "paccer has collided with you" message, in no way proves his flying caused the collision!  It just proves that your computer saw it that way, his may have seen it very different.   I got the "you have collided with" message the other day and the guy hit me from my right rear!  
Mark
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: skycaptn on February 21, 2007, 09:05:27 AM
No this post is for pacer to enjoy.. but, please keep commenting.. keep it on the board longer thanks guys
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: 1cemanVS on February 21, 2007, 09:16:45 AM
heh pacerr is in the same squad, and i was in fact in viewing distance of this incident, he dove to get seperation and dove down on top of him into his cockpit

way to go! :aok

but like everyone said this is a most un constructive post, many people know and like pacerr im sure as he is a swell guy, so your just making yourself look silly :rofl
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: hubsonfire on February 21, 2007, 09:19:34 AM
Wow, another collision whine. How novel.
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: skycaptn on February 21, 2007, 09:21:30 AM
See Rule #5
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: Bucky73 on February 21, 2007, 09:43:17 AM
I'm just suprised he is actually shooting at something that isn't on the runway.:eek: :D
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: skycaptn on February 21, 2007, 09:44:49 AM
:aok
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: SteveBailey on February 21, 2007, 10:14:52 AM
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live for these moments...


If that's the case, you seriously need to get a life.
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: DREDger on February 21, 2007, 10:22:15 AM
dredger-1
paccer-48


hate that guy
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: Simaril on February 21, 2007, 10:51:20 AM
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Originally posted by SkyRock
Pacerr shot you down, you bailed successfully, you got mad, you re-upped, and rammed him out of vengance but your FE saw it as he colliding with you!  I think this has been hashed out before, but just because you got the "paccer has collided with you" message, in no way proves his flying caused the collision!  It just proves that your computer saw it that way, his may have seen it very different.   I got the "you have collided with" message the other day and the guy hit me from my right rear!  
Mark


This is not correct.

All occasions where you collide happen on YOUR front end. Period.

Important to remember that "fault" (who had last chance to avoid the collision) is completely irrelevant in collision coding. All that matters is that on your computer, YOUR airplane occupied the same space as an enemy object (plane, falling bomb, whatever).

(Same in real life, now that I think about it. If it's the other guy's fault, you're plane is every bit as shattered as it would be if it were your fault.)

And in that sense, all collisions are to some major degree caused by what the highway patrol would call "failure to maintain safe distance." And that failure, folks, is always the operator's fault.
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: wrag on February 21, 2007, 10:53:03 AM
If you see Orange text it's because YOUR computer SEES the collision!

I've tried to avoid many of these RAMS and I sometimes actually manage, by just a hair, to avoid.

Sometimes what I SEE isn't what the computer SEES.

It's useless to try and record these things with the AH films. Because you WILL NOT see what you actually saw!!!

You will see what the computer SAW! AH films are a recording of what the COMPUTER sees and records!

Try using a video camera and recording what is on your screen!

AND record using the AH filmer.

At times you WILL SEE a difference when you play both of them back!!!

It will be in micro seconds so PAY ATTENTION!

The affect is due to net lag, server lag, cpu lag to vid card, etc. BUT it is there!

Unfortunately many of your rams/collisions or your avoiding the same occur in those micro seconds.

Also what the other persons computer sees and sends to the server has an affect on your AH flying!

When I had a slower vid card I would AVOID a collision on my front end, and still suffer a collision. I could SEE I avoided the collision! But when I filmed it and played it back I saw something else! Once had a LA7 come at me HO I rolled and the LA passed to my left by about 20ft. I got a collision message and down I went! Played back the film and it showed a collision. The LA flew right into me or my atempt at evading was not enough?!?!

Had to get a new vid card/cpu/mb and those things NEARLY went away/stopped.

But sometimes I still see em.
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: Bronk on February 21, 2007, 11:12:45 AM
So you can clearly see the underside of your plane?

What haxx are you running that you can see every angle clearly and at speed.


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Bronk
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: wrag on February 21, 2007, 11:24:42 AM
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Originally posted by Bronk
So you can clearly see the underside of your plane?

What haxx are you running that you can see every angle clearly and at speed.


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Bronk


You talking to me?

Where does it say I can see the underside of my plane?

Are you making assumptions?
Title: Pacerr per your whine
Post by: Skuzzy on February 21, 2007, 11:31:06 AM
This is just inapproriate.  The host message is not an indicator of the intent of anyone, as it pertains to collisions.