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Title: Player poll on views
Post by: Max on February 22, 2007, 03:54:30 PM: Just curious as to who uses pan (F7) views vs instant (F9) and why you prefer one over the other.

Thanks
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: jazzman1315 on February 22, 2007, 05:00:51 PM: I use Pan F7 mostly because although quick enough, it gives you a flash if there is something you missed as you pass through an adjacent view. It also helps to keep me oriented when switching between views in rapid succession. F9 tends to make me lose SA and physical orientation.
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: Lusche on February 22, 2007, 05:07:30 PM: Quote
Originally posted by jazzman1315
I use Pan F7 mostly because although quick enough, it gives you a flash if there is something you missed as you pass through an adjacent view. It also helps to keep me oriented when switching between views in rapid succession. F9 tends to make me lose SA and physical orientation.

Same here. When I was still using hat views, F9 felt completely unnatural and was discomforting.
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: Blagard on February 22, 2007, 05:22:52 PM: Ditto - I use Pan
Better SA and the Glimpse of an NME from view to view invaluable.
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: HomeBoy on February 22, 2007, 05:55:47 PM: Fascinating. For years, I used snap view and always felt pan view moved too slow and would hurt my SA. Therfore I never tried it. However, since using TIR, I realize what you guys are saying (because TIR is a pan view of sorts) and if I were to know then what I know now, I would have probably used pan view.
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: Lusche on February 22, 2007, 06:16:33 PM: Quote
Originally posted by HomeBoy
Fascinating. For years, I used snap view and always felt pan view moved too slow and would hurt my SA. Therfore I never tried it. However, since using TIR, I realize what you guys are saying (because TIR is a pan view of sorts) and if I were to know then what I know now, I would have probably used pan view.

There is an error on Max posting:

F7 is Snap View. F8 is Pan view. F9 is instant view.

I used F7 (Snap). I found F8 (Pan) almost impossible to use.
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: SuperDud on February 22, 2007, 07:09:49 PM: Yup F7
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: Kermit de frog on February 22, 2007, 10:09:08 PM: The INSTANT usually gives people problems. They lose their opponent while fighting and never can understand why. Then, when you tell them about F7, the see why and fight better.

Unless someone tells them about F7, they may be using F9 and will continue to have difficulties in keeping track of their opponent during a dogfight.

HT may want to review the F9 instant view mode.
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: BaldEagl on February 22, 2007, 11:10:46 PM: I use snap view because the fields of view overlap anyway unless your zoomed in pretty far and I don't like to waste time getting my head turned.

I also just recently moved my zoom toggle to my stick which made a huge difference for me.
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: HomeBoy on February 23, 2007, 12:18:31 AM: Quote
Originally posted by HomeBoy
Fascinating. For years, I used snap view and always felt pan view moved too slow and would hurt my SA.

Man, I was totally confused when I posted this.

I meant to say that I always used Instant view (F9) and never liked Snap (F7) because it was too slow. Pan was totally useless to me (F8) and never used that at all. However, now that I have been using TIR this past year, I appreciate the little glimpse you get when you move to another view. I'm sure that's what all you guys are referring to. I should have given Snap view another chance. Oh well, water under the bridge now as TIR rules.
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: Coshy on February 23, 2007, 05:41:43 AM: Typically I use the snap view, however I do have a button on my stick that enables (F8) Pan. I can hit that, then use my hat switch to pan my view around.

There are a few uses, none that couldnt be accomplished with just F7, but I still like how I have it set up, gives me more options.
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: Ghosth on February 23, 2007, 07:43:50 AM: The snap (f7) is IMO vastly better than either the pan (f8) or the Instant(f9)

Instant gives me a headache scanning the sky around my plane. F8 will cost you if you ever get jumped while panning around.

The exception to that is when I'm in F3 external view, I'll sometimes use use pan to get above my plane enough to see whats coming ahead.

I agree, we at the very least need a choice as to WHICH is the default.
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: Max on February 23, 2007, 08:24:27 AM: Thanks gents :aok
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: croduh on February 23, 2007, 12:58:00 PM: Snap, man f7 is too slow in furballs;)
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: Ball on February 23, 2007, 01:01:32 PM: F9. much better SA.
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: Solar10 on February 23, 2007, 01:05:15 PM: I use a mixture. I use snap view but when tied up with a con I use padlock view that pans. I then use snap for SA and when done looking around it snaps right back to the con.
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: Blagard on February 23, 2007, 01:19:24 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Blagard
Ditto - I use Pan
Better SA and the Glimpse of an NME from view to view invaluable.
I understood this to be the F7 view or technically called "snap" which I use. It is a very fast panning between views.

F8 which is purely pan is not a normal view option for POV settings. It is far too slow and I do not use it except when in an external view in the tower or a gun emplacement.

I have tried F9 (Instant) and find it un-natural and unpleasant to use.

:( Can we delete the thread and start again this time with what I was sure Max meant as F7 or F9 !
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: B@tfinkV on February 23, 2007, 02:50:46 PM: i Use F7 too.

anyone ever find this happen to them when flying RAF rides...?

the red of the roundel looks like and icon as you flash past it in F7 view?

lol
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: HomeBoy on February 23, 2007, 02:59:54 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Blagard
:( Can we delete the thread and start again this time with what I was sure Max meant as F7 or F9 !

Here here! My head is spinning! I think I understand what most everyone really wants to say here even if they use the term "pan" when mean "snap", etc. :O
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 23, 2007, 03:00:01 PM: Quote
Originally posted by B@tfinkV
i Use F7 too.

anyone ever find this happen to them when flying RAF rides...?

the red of the roundel looks like and icon as you flash past it in F7 view?

lol

all the stinking time, in a spit, typh, temp, mossie to me anyhows. ROFL
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: gusman on February 23, 2007, 03:06:43 PM: Originally posted by B@tfinkV
i Use F7 too.

anyone ever find this happen to them when flying RAF rides...?

the red of the roundel looks like and icon as you flash past it in F7 view?

lol

Quote
Originally posted by TequilaChaser
all the stinking time, in a spit, typh, temp, mossie to me anyhows. ROFL

Everytime :lol
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: Murdr on February 23, 2007, 03:29:23 PM: always used snap
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: stantond on February 23, 2007, 04:28:21 PM: I've always used F9 (instant). To me, F7 (snap) is just a slower transition to the same view. Maybe that creates nausea in some?

If I recall, I think instant was preferred because it was quicker. To me, if I lose track of the nme then making a view transition slower isn't going to help. That said, I'll try F7 and see if it makes a difference.

Regards,

Malta
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: Max on February 23, 2007, 08:16:50 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Blagard

:( Can we delete the thread and start again this time with what I was sure Max meant as F7 or F9 !

Yes, that was what I was referring to. No need to reiterate...I get the picture :D Sri for not being more clear about the question. :cry
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: trotter on February 23, 2007, 11:42:46 PM: Red of roundel looks like a bogey? YES

thought it was just me
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: Wilbus on February 25, 2007, 04:18:47 AM: Instant.

In the environments I tend to fly the snapview is too slow most of the time.

I didn't start using instant untill maybe a year ago though but can't go back to snap now.
Title: Player poll on views
Post by: Obie303 on February 25, 2007, 05:06:16 AM: Quote
the red of the roundel looks like and icon as you flash past it in F7 view?

I've been chasing my own wing since I started!:D

Obie:aok