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Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: Vulcan on February 22, 2007, 06:21:51 PM: According to this survey Kiwi's experience more personal freedom than you lot :) . And with all the 'nanny-state' accusations the UK does better than the US overall as well. Of course looks like a slightly leftie-tree-hugging-whale-saving-man-hating-lesbian survey - so I doubt gun 'rights' were taken into account :P

http://www.stateofworldliberty.org/report/rankings.html

Countries Listed By Score/Rank
RANK COUNTRY FINAL WEIGHTED AVERAGE ECONOMIC FREEDOM AVG EF RANK GOVT AND TAX AVG G&T RANK INDIV FREEDOM AVG IF RANK
1 Estonia 85.25 79.63 8 76.26 6 99.86 5
2 Ireland 83.34 82.25 3 67.81 16 99.95 2
3 Canada 82.34 79.38 9 68.06 15 99.59 9
4 Switzerland 82.33 79.88 7 67.16 18 99.95 2
5 Iceland 82.27 79.25 10 67.61 17 99.95 2
6 Bahamas 82.12 67.75 31 81.17 2 100.00* 1
7 United Kingdom 81.96 81.25 5 65.10 22 99.53 11
8 United States 81.96 80.50 6 66.24 20 99.13 19
9 Cyprus 81.65 73.25 19 72.20 10 99.50 12
10 New Zealand 81.24 80.50 6 63.41 27 99.82 6
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: Yeager on February 22, 2007, 06:29:11 PM: A long as I can keep and bear arms I will always have more freedom than anyone who cannot.
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 22, 2007, 06:40:18 PM: I'm a little confused as to the rankings? What group of retards did they assemble to slap some numbers on a piece of paper?
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: VERTEX on February 22, 2007, 06:49:17 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Yeager
A long as I can keep and bear arms I will always have more freedom than anyone who cannot.

Thats an extremely over simplified statement, typical of the american parochial viewpoint.
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: Stringer on February 22, 2007, 06:56:39 PM: Quote
Originally posted by lasersailor184
I'm a little confused as to the rankings? What group of retards did they assemble to slap some numbers on a piece of paper?

Penn State alumni weekend......
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: Rino on February 22, 2007, 06:58:19 PM: Quote
Originally posted by VERTEX
Thats an extremely over simplified statement, typical of the american parochial viewpoint.

Ah yes, Canada..the center of the civilized world :rolleyes:
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: Rino on February 22, 2007, 07:01:19 PM: Well looking at that survey, it appears that the less your country
appears on the world stage, the better it ranks..amazing.
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: Masherbrum on February 22, 2007, 07:05:24 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Stringer
Penn State alumni weekend......

:rofl
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: Masherbrum on February 22, 2007, 07:05:57 PM: Quote
Originally posted by VERTEX
Thats an extremely over simplified statement, typical of the american parochial viewpoint.

I have an HK USP 45, whatcha got?
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 22, 2007, 07:13:33 PM: I was quick to judge. The US doubled its place in the standing (I'd guess) based solely off of size of the government being factored in. Sounds about right to me.
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: Yeager on February 22, 2007, 07:54:57 PM: ok, heres another, I feel free, about as free as anyone can be :D
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: FastFwd on February 22, 2007, 08:02:58 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Yeager
A long as I can keep and bear arms I will always have more freedom than anyone who cannot.
I believe arms were freely available to men in Iraq, at least prior to the war. But how much freedom did they have? Not much...
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: Yeager on February 22, 2007, 09:09:25 PM: I am a super highly intelligent prescient being. It does little good for you to try and impress me with your intellect. Been there, done that.

:aok
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: Viking on February 22, 2007, 09:33:53 PM: In exactly what country are citizens not allowed to own guns?

Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
I have an HK USP 45, whatcha got?

Oooh! That would be a nice side arm to my HK G3 assault rifle. I also have a Mauser M98 (not K), and a very nice old Russian side-by-side 12 gauge. I sold the .45 and the MP5.
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: Saintaw on February 23, 2007, 02:49:43 AM: Quote
1 Estonia

:rofl
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: Pei on February 23, 2007, 03:13:19 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Yeager
A long as I can keep and bear arms I will always have more freedom than anyone who cannot.

Didn't help the people at Ruby Ridge or Waco when the feds came knocking. Perhaps it better not to have them come knocking in the first place?
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: Nilsen on February 23, 2007, 04:28:12 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Viking
In exactly what country are citizens not allowed to own guns?

Oooh! That would be a nice side arm to my HK G3 assault rifle. I also have a Mauser M98 (not K), and a very nice old Russian side-by-side 12 gauge. I sold the .45 and the MP5.

eh... explain just how you sold the MP5 pls

QXL? :D
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: T0J0 on February 23, 2007, 05:09:27 AM: They didn't factor in the kiwi traffic cameras that mail you a ticket for driving 1 mph over the speed limit...If they had more guns they could shoot the cameras down, thats what we do in the states at least...
Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: cpxxx on February 23, 2007, 07:35:43 AM: I like that result especially as we are in second place. To be fair it's all much of a muchness for top 20 or so. Small countries like my own seem to do better overall. In small countries it's harder for the politicians to distance themselves from the people. Smaller countries need inward investment so freedom is very important to attract that investment. That's why there are so many in the top ten.
Title: Hey T0J0
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Title: the Land of the Free?
Post by: Viking on February 23, 2007, 09:27:23 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Nilsen
eh... explain just how you sold the MP5 pls

QXL? :D

LOL! No. I actually owned the MP5, it wasn't the army's. I've been involved with the practical shooting scene up here for a while now, but (again) I don't really have time to train and compete on the same level as the rest of the guys. I sold the .45 and MP5 to a friend who's passionately into IPSC. I'll just have to be content with blowing away a few animals now and then. ;)