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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: flyboy97 on February 23, 2007, 11:43:25 AM
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Hey can u guys add the hell diver its the rival of the doutless i herd it had a max bomb load of 2 1000s punders and 6 8 inch rockets and 20mm nose mounted guns for the pilot to use they were carer base and land here is a link that has a pictuer for it
http://www.photovault.com/Link/Military/Navy/show.asp?tg=MYNVolume12/MYNV12P08_02
please add it
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Yup.. it would be a very good edition to the plane set but abit down on _my_ list of needed rides.
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I'd love to see it in AH, but Im afraid it'll render the TBM useless (SBC also carried torpedoes right? Or just a dive-bomber?)
Being the dive-bomber it is, it'll also scrap out the SBD because of:
Higher speed
Bigger payload
More payload (rockets)
Better armament (20mm's)
So one plane will replace 2 of our planes! Not a good idea IMO
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well its a good idea
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Well Frank we have many planes that people prefer because they better s oy not this1 too?
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Judy Judy Judy!
-Sik
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Yes, we need the 1944 SB2C because the 1943 SBD-5 and 1943 TBM-3 are beng so overpowered by the 1936 D3A1 and 1938 B5N2.
Those Japanese just built aircraft so far ahead of their time.....
Oh, wait....
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Originally posted by Karnak
Yes, we need the 1944 SB2C because the 1943 SBD-5 and 1943 TBM-3 are beng so overpowered by the 1936 D3A1 and 1938 B5N2.
Those Japanese just built aircraft so far ahead of their time.....
Oh, wait....
Careful there... Don't want to start making sense in here, or they might accuse you of sounding like me... :noid
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Originally posted by Karnak
Yes, we need the 1944 SB2C because the 1943 SBD-5 and 1943 TBM-3 are beng so overpowered by the 1936 D3A1 and 1938 B5N2.
We need the SB2C not because it will render the SBD obsolescent, but because a lot of them were built, they were fielded in large numbers, and they were the U.S. Navy's dive bomber at the end of the war. They wouldn't be available in the EW, so the SBD would still have a place--not to mention the SBD's importance as a SEA aircraft. They first saw combat at Rabaul in November of 1943, and there were in excess of 7,000 produced. The rapidity with which HTC delivers the SB2C is up for debate, but ultimately, I'd believe it would be their intent to model the plane. Not holding my breath for it any time soon...
TBM's flew until the end of the war and beyond, as the SB2C was a replacement for the SBD, not the Turkey...
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The tails should spontaneously fall off, just like the real ones.
(Purely anecdotal)
wrngway
(needs bookshelves)
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i would also like the A-35 Avenger. it had 6x 50cal. ( can't find the book about it so i dunno the bombload). it was used by the americans as a trainer but by the Brits as dive bomber.
"would u like a sip of tea?" Brit accent:lol
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Also, alotta the stuff I've read mentions that the Helldiver crews called it the "Son-Of-A-***** 2nd Class."
____S______B____2___C
I suppose of some of the planes less-desirable chararistics. But yes, an important plane, we really should have it.
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(http://www.photovault.com/Link/Military/Navy/MYNVolume12/MYNV12P08_02.jpg)
pretty ugly
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Originally posted by AWwrgwy
The tails should spontaneously fall off, just like the real ones.
(Purely anecdotal)
wrngway
(needs bookshelves)
Well, I suppose if the actual random failures of some of the aircraft in the planeset were modelled in the game, there'd be some seriously bent out of shape folks regarding a lot of planes from countries I'll fail to mention so I don't get pounded.
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Judy is much prettier.
(http://weapons-free.masdf.com/air/japan/pic/suisei.jpg)
-Sik
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agreed.
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Originally posted by frank3
I'd love to see it in AH, but Im afraid it'll render the TBM useless (SBC also carried torpedoes right? Or just a dive-bomber?)
Being the dive-bomber it is, it'll also scrap out the SBD because of:
Higher speed
Bigger payload
More payload (rockets)
Better armament (20mm's)
So one plane will replace 2 of our planes! Not a good idea IMO
Not that the naval fighters are more capable than the sbd or anything...
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Tough to fly, poorly designed, and delivered too slowly, the Curtiss SB2C comes somewhere near the top of most lists of "Worst Aircraft of World War Two."
The litany of faults that the Helldiver bore included the fact that it was underpowered, had a shorter range than the SBD, was equipped with an unreliable electrical system and was often poorly manufactured.
however:
the SB2C’s were responsible for more ship tonnage sunk during WWII than any other aircraft.
Will it render the SBD obsolete? I think not:
This large, heavy, impressive and powerful dive-bomber was intended as an improvement on the SBD Dauntless, which it was to replace. However, during ithe SB2C's development it became apparent that there were serious problems with its design. Combat experience, especially at the Battle of the Philippine Sea, revealed that the Dauntless was in fact the superior aircraft. The Helldiver's handling was poor - in particular it had unsatisfactory low-speed stability, and dangerously poor stalling characteristics. It was also unstable in a high-speed dive, and therefore a less accurate bomber than the SBD. Since dive-bombing was the aircraft's raison d'etre, this fault alone was enough to make the SB2C an unacceptable replacement for the Dauntless. However, it was at this stage impossible to reverse the changeover to the Helldiver, and the Philippine Sea battle was the SBD's last major action as a carrier aircraft.
I still like to see it though
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I would like to see the SB2C as well, with USAAF skin.
ack-ack
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(http://www.chinalakealumni.org/IMAGES/NP45-043772.jpg)
with Tiny Tim
Seven HVAR's streak ahead of the 11.75" Tiny Tim
as it drops nose down from an F4U[1-d] Corsair
(http://www.chinalakealumni.org/IMAGES/1945/0xxxxx%20F4U%20ddSEP45%20CLK%20NAN.jpg)
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one of my favorite naval planes of all time, would like after an Russian twin engine plane though.
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Originally posted by flyboy97
Hey can u guys add the hell diver its the rival of the doutless i herd it had a max bomb load of 2 1000s punders and 6 8 inch rockets and 20mm nose mounted guns for the pilot to use they were carer base and land here is a link that has a pictuer for it
http://www.photovault.com/Link/Military/Navy/show.asp?tg=MYNVolume12/MYNV12P08_02
(http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/21/grammartime.gif)
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Originally posted by Serenity
(http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/21/grammartime.gif)
:rofl
Mind if I use that?
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I don't mean to be an stunninghunk... but we really don't need another suicide dive-bomber.
That's all this aircraft would become.... some twit would up it and suicide dive-bomb CVs etc.
Vote Me 410!
:lol
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Originally posted by mensa180
:rofl
Mind if I use that?
lol. I found it online, lol, so yeah go for it
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loved the "gramer time" video :lol.
im all the way with the helldiver.
p51srule :aok
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The SB2C was being phased out of carrier service in 1945 because the powers that be finally realized that the Hellcat and Corsair could do anything it could do, and do it better and faster.
It may have sunk more tonnage of shipping than any other Naval aircraft....but it was a dog. It's nickname "The Beast" was not given to it as a compliment.