Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Hats on February 26, 2007, 09:45:56 PM
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i dont think we need a new plane. we dont need a new weapon systemor skin. what we do need, is a new demension.
Simplpy put, by putting in ground to ground vehicles, like the panzer and t-34's, attracts a whole new niche of players who are not interested in flying airplanes. And it isnt beleivable that airplanes take fields and places by themselves. WW2 wasn't fought like this, so the game shouldn't be played like this.
I suggest a sort of "task group" army. like the carrier groups, a moble ground force should be created to take bases, alongside small groups of paratroopers thrown out of c47's. this would also allow gamers flying as pilots to be in direct support of troops on the ground, like WW2 was fought. if two of these armys, they could be anywhere from division to battalion sized, met then there would be an active battle for tankers to fight in, aginst online and computerized enemies.
anyway, sounded like a bright idea to me.
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As it is, a well timed attack by GVs and aircraft simulates exactly what you are proposing. Except the tank battles are humans operating the tanks not AI drones.
You obviously haven't been in any large ground battles in the MA. One of the best combined ground/air battles is usually on the Baltic map over V65. Despite what the self appointed generals think, that base is critical to holding A18, A20 and A19 on that map. So, you have one side constantly trying to hold it and the other trying to capture it. 20 to 30 GVs and and equal number of aircraft on both sides isn't unusual.
So far as a larger group, the LTARs do quite well in both GVs and aircraft. They work well together and are a force to be reconed with when the whole squad is in an arena.
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Aces High is primarily a flight simulation game. The majority of players are here to fly and fight. Although the GV's are useful tools for capturing and defending bases it has to be said that winning the war is far from everyones idea of fun.
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Originally posted by Hats
i dont think we need a new plane. we dont need a new weapon systemor skin. what we do need, is a new demension.
Simplpy put, by putting in ground to ground vehicles, like the panzer and t-34's, attracts a whole new niche of players who are not interested in flying airplanes. And it isnt beleivable that airplanes take fields and places by themselves. WW2 wasn't fought like this, so the game shouldn't be played like this.
I suggest a sort of "task group" army. like the carrier groups, a moble ground force should be created to take bases, alongside small groups of paratroopers thrown out of c47's. this would also allow gamers flying as pilots to be in direct support of troops on the ground, like WW2 was fought. if two of these armys, they could be anywhere from division to battalion sized, met then there would be an active battle for tankers to fight in, aginst online and computerized enemies.
anyway, sounded like a bright idea to me.
:huh You again.... okay, Like NHawk & Bruv said... you have not been in this game long enough to be bashing how the game is played. Alot of squads use both tactics in taking fields, LTAR's, AK's, Bruv's squad does as well I believe, but the point it... to be happy with this game you just need to roll with the punches and go with the flow. If you want more GV action, start a squad and use just GV's... And you there already are Panzers and T34's in the game, so I have no clue what your trying to say about adding them to attract new people. Oh well...just my .02 cents worth.
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I think that AI vehicles or aircraft do not belong in the MA. The exception being CV groups.
I pay to play against people, not AI.
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Originally posted by Hats
Simplpy put, by putting in ground to ground vehicles, like the panzer and t-34's, attracts a whole new niche of players who are not interested in flying airplanes.
No, it wouldn't. People who are not interested in flying airplanes are retarded. Err, sorry, I didn't mean to say that. Let's try that again. People who are not interested in flying airplanes don't play games like this. They play games like Nascar and Madden and perhaps even Panzer. They don't play games called Aces High or Knights of the Sky.
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I think our dedicated GV'ers are people who find wwiionline far too hard. AH is to flight sims what wwiionline (or battleground europe as it is called) is to vehicle sims.
They like the pointy click easiness of AH gv spawncamping without much skill or thought involved, they can be considered good at something without actually needing to be good. Drop them in a war sim game and they will be clueless.
In contrast, the skill involved in the flying aspect of AH means that someone reasonably good will be very good at virtually any other ACM based flight sim.
(That is not aimed at you Hats, just a general comment).
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Originally posted by Sketch
:huh You again.... okay, Like NHawk & Bruv said... you have not been in this game long enough to be bashing how the game is played. Alot of squads use both tactics in taking fields, LTAR's, AK's, Bruv's squad does as well I believe, but the point it... to be happy with this game you just need to roll with the punches and go with the flow. If you want more GV action, start a squad and use just GV's... And you there already are Panzers and T34's in the game, so I have no clue what your trying to say about adding them to attract new people. Oh well...just my .02 cents worth.
ok dude this is how it goes
one doesnt have to post 2987654345678 threads to be an expert at the game. ive been playing for like 8 or 9 months now and i do know what im talking about, most of the time, haha
its not bashing. its a suggestion
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Hmm. More air to ground. I can go with that.
Napalm. Where do I sign up?
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Originally posted by Hats
And it isnt beleivable that airplanes take fields and places by themselves. WW2 wasn't fought like this, so the game shouldn't be played like this.
This is where your whole proposal falls apart.
This isn't a World War II simulation. If you want that, then I suggest that other game down the street called WW2OL.
This will come as a shock to you but Aces High II is a game that simulates air combat[/b] using World War II aircraft and not a game that simulates World War II.
You're right, World War II wasn't fought like this but as I mentioned, this isn't a World War II simulator. So you're going to see strategy and tactics in this game that you would never have seen anyone try in WW2.
Enjoy.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Hats
ok dude this is how it goes
one doesnt have to post 2987654345678 threads to be an expert at the game. ive been playing for like 8 or 9 months now and i do know what im talking about, most of the time, haha
its not bashing. its a suggestion
It is not a fact of how much you post, it is a fact of how well you know the game and the players. You have played for 8-9 months... alot of these guys have played, including myself, for like 8-9 years. Some of us know how the flow of the game will go just by the start of a new map rotation. I am not bashing you, I am just giving you a suggestion... If you want more GV action, go do it. No one is stopping you. Like NHawk was saying: You obviously haven't been in any large ground battles in the MA. One of the best combined ground/air battles is usually on the Baltic map over V65. Despite what the self appointed generals think, that base is critical to holding A18, A20 and A19 on that map. So, you have one side constantly trying to hold it and the other trying to capture it. 20 to 30 GVs and and equal number of aircraft on both sides isn't unusual.
Now, from his post that should tell you some people know this game inside and out. They know what bases to hit, how to attack them, hell even where the best spawn camping areas are at. I am not saying you don't know anything about this game... but you don't know all you think you know, no matter how many post you or anyone else does. And if I may quote Bruv: Aces High is primarily a flight simulation game. The majority of players are here to fly and fight. Although the GV's are useful tools for capturing and defending bases it has to be said that winning the war is far from everyones idea of fun.
Read his post a few times, it tells all... it is a game, that is all... We play this for fun. I will talk smack to Bruv one night and wing with him the next. Don't take what I said the wrong way, but 8 months in this game is not the full input of learning it all. You learn something new all the time... unless your HT or Skuzzy, they just create it! :aok
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Yup, this game is about flying. If you want a ground war try WW2OL and I heard red orchistra is pretty good too.
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Originally posted by Hats
i dont think we need a new plane. we dont need a new weapon systemor skin. what we do need, is a new demension.
Simplpy put, by putting in ground to ground vehicles, like the panzer and t-34's, attracts a whole new niche of players who are not interested in flying airplanes. And it isnt beleivable that airplanes take fields and places by themselves. WW2 wasn't fought like this, so the game shouldn't be played like this.
I suggest a sort of "task group" army. like the carrier groups, a moble ground force should be created to take bases, alongside small groups of paratroopers thrown out of c47's. this would also allow gamers flying as pilots to be in direct support of troops on the ground, like WW2 was fought. if two of these armys, they could be anywhere from division to battalion sized, met then there would be an active battle for tankers to fight in, aginst online and computerized enemies.
anyway, sounded like a bright idea to me.
Aces High
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I do not believe this game is destined for more AI activites. This game was made to put you in the pilot's seat, the driver's seat, and the gunner's seat. We don't wanna watch the AI's doing it for us thinking, "Sigh... I wish I could be doing that right now!"
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If you want an active ground battle go to tank town.
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ill drop a bomb on your head all day long, ware is the line for that?
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You also have to think of bandwidth, AI take up alot, a couple of divisions or batallions of AI would just lag out the MA, and possibly H2H arena's like no tomorrow even with the low bandwith usage of AH.
Ive been playing AH since August of 06 (about 18 months), and im still learning new things.
Even thou it seems like were bashing ur ideas down, we're usually not, we're telling you why you ideas are bad, and hopefully you learn why they are bad.