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Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Thrawn on February 27, 2007, 03:19:26 PM: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/022607A.shtml

Well, here's a story that bears tracking. And may god help Bush if this is true. I can't imagine anything that could be more damn if it is.
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Masherbrum on February 27, 2007, 03:23:53 PM: (http://www.stinkysbaitcompany.com/_derived/index.htm_txt_stinkys%20pic%20for%20bull%20cook%20006.gif)
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Ripsnort on February 27, 2007, 03:32:53 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
(http://www.stinkysbaitcompany.com/_derived/index.htm_txt_stinkys%20pic%20for%20bull%20cook%20006.gif)
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: john9001 on February 27, 2007, 03:33:56 PM: seymour butts. :lol
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Mace2004 on February 27, 2007, 03:43:09 PM: Seymour Hersh....consumate bubblehead.

His "source" for this is Hasan Nasrallah, the head of Lebanese Hizbollah, the man responsible for the recent LH/Israeli conflict. Sounds credible, I'm sure he couldn't possibly have his own agenda. Oh, Nasrallah's right hand man is a guy named Imad Mugniyah. Mugniyah heads Hezbollah's terrorist wing and was responsible for bombing the US Embassy in Beirut (63 dead) and the Marine Corps and French barracks (299 dead)...of course these "gentlemen" make outstanding "sources" if you're Seymour Hersh.
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Momus-- on February 27, 2007, 03:43:10 PM: Ridiculous. As if patriotic americans would circumvent congress to fund terrorist groups. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_Affair) Get real.
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Airscrew on February 27, 2007, 03:46:49 PM: Quote
Originally posted by john9001
seymour butts. :lol

more like Seymour Bush
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Masherbrum on February 27, 2007, 03:48:02 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Momus--
Ridiculous. As if patriotic americans would circumvent congress to fund terrorist groups. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_Affair) Get real.

Aww, you must be on Thrawn's speed dial. Or, better yet, are you Thrawn's shades account?
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Momus-- on February 28, 2007, 02:30:55 AM: ^^ Very good. The point is that while unsubstantiated, this type of thing is not without precedent. For that matter, neither was the idea of a group of (neo)conservative hawks manipulating and just plain inventing intelligence to suit their own agenda. (http://www.fareedzakaria.com/articles/newsweek/061603.html) Whoops!
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Xargos on February 28, 2007, 02:40:24 AM: Every time you buy gas or get groceries your supporting Al Qaeda.
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Debonair on February 28, 2007, 02:47:30 AM: sumtimez i get gas after i buy groceries
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Xargos on February 28, 2007, 02:55:37 AM: Sometimes I get gas after I eat at Toco-Hell.
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 28, 2007, 07:17:37 AM: What about that 10-ton weight shipment of cash money that was sent to Iraq, disappeared and was never heard of later..

Who got to use that money? :D
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Saintaw on February 28, 2007, 08:25:00 AM: ^^ dayum... wish I could speak up for that :)

Momus + 1 as usual :aok
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Masherbrum on February 28, 2007, 10:20:40 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Momus--
^^ Very good.

I know, but you made it obvious. I thank you for that.
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Mace2004 on February 28, 2007, 01:30:06 PM: Quote
Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
What about that 10-ton weight shipment of cash money that was sent to Iraq, disappeared and was never heard of later..

Who got to use that money? :D
Urban myth perhaps?
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Yeager on February 28, 2007, 01:40:19 PM: lol, my faith in Bush/Cheney just bumped up a notch :D
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 28, 2007, 02:33:40 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Mace2004
Urban myth perhaps?

Not an urban myth. the loss was attributed to "shoddy" book keeping at the time.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: x0847Marine on February 28, 2007, 03:03:38 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Thrawn
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/022607A.shtml

Well, here's a story that bears tracking. And may god help Bush if this is true. I can't imagine anything that could be more damn if it is.

The US has a long history of things like this.

As the old saying goes; "Then enemy of my enemy, is my friend", ironically this is an old Arab proverb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_enemy_of_my_enemy_is_my_friend

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend is usually considered a foreign policy doctrine that is commonly used to confront a significant enemy through an intermediary in order to undermine the enemy and in a "cold" manner, as opposed to a "hot", direct confrontation"
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Hazzer on February 28, 2007, 03:12:31 PM: Patriotic Americans supported the IRA for years.Thx:aok
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: john9001 on February 28, 2007, 04:32:52 PM: the IRA was just trying to drive out the english invaders.
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Hazzer on February 28, 2007, 06:27:56 PM: Oh, ok....so that's good terrorism & Iraq is bad terrorism....Armed irishmen = freedom fighter...Armed Iraqi = Terrorist...maybe you should tell that to the mothers of all their victims:mad:
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: LePaul on February 28, 2007, 06:44:44 PM: Oh be real, its a post from Thrawn, the resident "America Hater"

Shocked, I am (not!) :p
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Xargos on February 28, 2007, 07:01:20 PM: Quote
Originally posted by LePaul
Oh be real, its a post from Thrawn, the resident "America Hater"

Shocked, I am (not!) :p

Let's go Nuke his house then...:D
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Ripsnort on February 28, 2007, 07:13:26 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Hazzer
Oh, ok....so that's good terrorism & Iraq is bad terrorism....Armed irishmen = freedom fighter...Armed Iraqi = Terrorist...maybe you should tell that to the mothers of all their victims:mad:

Funny how the Irish Republican Army went from a military org to a terrorist org for the convenience of the British perception though, isn't it? ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Hazzer on February 28, 2007, 08:13:30 PM: After the Easter rising of 1916 the IRA did the obvious having been defeated using conventional means they turned to guerilla/terrorist tactics.I don't condone Britains Imperial past,but the us has rammed the terror message dwn are throats till we're sick of it,yet for years they refused to stop Americans sending money to a terrorist org.despite repeated requests by British governments.
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: LePaul on February 28, 2007, 08:24:48 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Hazzer
After the Easter rising of 1916 the IRA did the obvious having been defeated using conventional means they turned to guerilla/terrorist tactics.I don't condone Britains Imperial past,but the us has rammed the terror message dwn are throats till we're sick of it,yet for years they refused to stop Americans sending money to a terrorist org.despite repeated requests by British governments.

Yeah, silly Catholics of Ireland....they should welcome the Protestant Orange Parade every year that celebrates their defeat ages ago. Its one thing to remember history, its quite another to throw salt in the wound annually.
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Airscrew on February 28, 2007, 11:23:45 PM: Quote
Originally posted by LePaul
Yeah, silly Catholics of Ireland....they should welcome the Protestant Orange Parade every year that celebrates their defeat ages ago. Its one thing to remember history, its quite another to throw salt in the wound annually.

would that be the same has having Union Soldiers parade through downtown Atlanta?
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: LePaul on March 01, 2007, 12:40:55 AM: Beats me, you tell me...do we have tense Union/Confederate feelings down there? Because clearly there are in Ireland...but rather than strive for peace, that parade is just an annual poke in the eye, as I see it.

You let me know if there's been Union/Confederate riots in the past 20 years. Then we'll talk :)
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: Airscrew on March 01, 2007, 12:53:36 AM: I think you may have missed my point, its kinda late...

I was trying to find a point of comparison between Irish history and American history. it would seem to me that if for some oddball reason we had an annual parade of Union Soldiers in downtown Atlanta that would cause the same strife. I agree, an annual Orange parade is a poke in the Irish eye
Title: Seymour Hersh: Bush funding Al Qaeda
Post by: firbal on March 01, 2007, 08:25:54 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
Funny how the Irish Republican Army went from a military org to a terrorist org for the convenience of the British perception though, isn't it? ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army

Sorry Rip, your wrong. It became an Commist organiztion. The IRA isn't the old IRA of yeste year. How would I know you ask? I lived in The Republic for 2 years. Most of that time in Dublin. Sin Fin(spelling), which is their polictial arm, would post stuff around with their demans, goals. How ever you consider them. But they had a very real Commuist bent to them. So yea, they were, are a terrorist org. It gets me how gulibal people here in the States are when it comes to Ireland. They still think the present day IRA is the same IRA that fought for Independence till the 20's. Then there was a very bad split after the 26 counties got their Independence and formed The Republic. Then they had a small civial war between them. Side note. I have a picture of me standing by a cross commerating someone outside of Tralee who died during their civil war.