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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: type_char on February 28, 2007, 12:02:10 AM
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To me, murder is when you cold heartedly kill a human being in the USA, even someon who deserved it. On the other hand killing is when you go to a foreign country to shoot an entire family in their vehicle as they run from a war. A war in the name of false facts. Anyone care to debate?
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STAY THE HELL OFF MY COMPUTER MUTHER ****ER!!!
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ROFLMAO
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WTF?! IN fo sho...
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I am inspired to wit:
How many roads most a man walk down
Before you call him a man ?
How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand ?
Yes, how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned ?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.
Yes, how many years can a mountain exist
Before it's washed to the sea ?
Yes, how many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free ?
Yes, how many times can a man turn his head
Pretending he just doesn't see ?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.
Yes, how many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky ?
Yes, how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry ?
Yes, how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died ?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.
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Murder is killing a human being.
Killing is the purposeful act of ending the life of a homo sapiens.
One is not equal to the other.
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Killing is ending a life.
Unlawful killing is murder.
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Murder is the result after the killing part :confused:
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This is deep.
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IN!
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I dont get it, whats with the second post?
If someone had snuck onto type_char's account and posted the first message, why didn't type_char, who had regained control of his account to make the second post, edit the first post?
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His other personality wouldn't let him because that half of his brain is tied up in the basement waiting for Rocco to come home. Ouch!
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are accidents that result in death murder too?
lazs
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What if the life itself was an accident... Would that make a murder not murder?
What if you really really really meant it. Like it was some sort of cause or higher calling. Would it matter if the other guy wanted to kill you but just didn't have the chance?
Or what if the other guy really really wanted you dead, and you were pretty much ambivalent about the whole thing, but you killed him before he got the chance to kill you or someone else.
Is it murder, killing someone else just because they wanted to kill you? Or does it make you BOTH murderers, since you never would have killed him if he didn't want to kill you first? Or does that make it a murder-suicide? Because if so, a lot of people are gonna get busted because it's against the law to assist suicide.
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murder does not mean being against the law. The law does not determine what is murder except in strict legal terms. Morally... only the person doing the killing knows if it is murder or not.
lazs
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Originally posted by Catalyst
Murder is the result after the killing part :confused:
I thought murder was one of the traINers :confused:
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I disagree laz.
If a soldier in the US armed forces is told to terminate a target and does so.
Was that killing Murder?
Is a convicted felon facing the electric chair, lethal injection, etc being killed or murdered?
My point is that society & civilization decides what killing is "lawful". And yes its wrapped in strict legal terms for a reason. To keep just anyone who wants someone else dead from going out and killing them.
Someone who on their own goes out and kills another person with or without just cause. THATS murder most foul. Not because the person died, not because he had cause or not. But because the killer did it on their own, without the sanction of society, or under society's orders.
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Originally posted by type_char
To me, murder is when you cold heartedly kill a human being in the USA, even someon who deserved it. On the other hand killing is when you go to a foreign country to shoot an entire family in their vehicle as they run from a war. A war in the name of false facts. Anyone care to debate?
Killing is my business, and business is good!!!
Murdr is some hot to trot P-38 driver.
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All murders are killings, but not all killings are murders.
Hope that clears it up.
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As they say in nawlins...
"he needed killin'"
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In nawlins they also say "misdemeanor murder." Thats when you kill someone and the DA doesn't charge you in 60 days so you get out.
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Originally posted by type_char
STAY THE HELL OFF MY COMPUTER MUTHER ****ER!!!
:aok :rofl
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The first two posts have an eerie Billy Milliganesque quality.
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
As they say in nawlins...
"he needed killin'"
Actually, in nawlins they probably used the plural as in "day needed killin"
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ghost not sure of your point. I can take each case individualy is you wish.
lazs
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Originally posted by Curval
All murders are killings, but not all killings are murders.
Hope that clears it up.
I disagree. Many here repeatedly murder the Queen's English (repeat offenders? mass murderers?) but no killing involved.
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Originally posted by tedrbr
I disagree. Many here repeatedly murder the Queen's English (repeat offenders? mass murderers?) but no killing involved.
They "butcher" the Queen's English.;)
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Originally posted by type_char
To me, murder is when you cold heartedly kill a human being in the USA, even someon who deserved it. On the other hand killing is when you go to a foreign country to shoot an entire family in their vehicle as they run from a war. A war in the name of false facts. Anyone care to debate?
Murder requires malice and aforethought, which is absent with troops following "legal" orders.. like maintaining a roadblock / check point.
An 18 year old Lcpl facing an oncoming vehicle doesn't have a crystal ball to tell him if its an innocent "run from war" family, or some jihadist...
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Meh.
Meat is murder.
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Originally posted by eagl
What if the life itself was an accident... Would that make a murder not murder?
What if you really really really meant it. Like it was some sort of cause or higher calling. Would it matter if the other guy wanted to kill you but just didn't have the chance?
Or what if the other guy really really wanted you dead, and you were pretty much ambivalent about the whole thing, but you killed him before he got the chance to kill you or someone else.
Is it murder, killing someone else just because they wanted to kill you? Or does it make you BOTH murderers, since you never would have killed him if he didn't want to kill you first? Or does that make it a murder-suicide? Because if so, a lot of people are gonna get busted because it's against the law to assist suicide.
If as you say, he really really wanted you dead, and in the scenario of say- a stalker, someone who obviously is sick in the head, someone that is virtually anonymous to you, a coward that you have never even meet face to face, but has made death threats over an extended period of time, including half arsed threats with guns from long distance... killing him would be self defence.
Apart from the extended time frame between the events I honestly do not see the difference between killing someone in the situation that I just described and killing an intruder who broke into my home and threatened me with a weapon. In either situation why should I have to risk taking it up the arse? The home invader would just die sooner. As for the stalker, if his fugged up mental state gave me the opportunity or he stops moving long enough, I'll take the shot
morally: I say self defence. Others may disagree.
legally:I don't really give a fug, but you take your chances. Even an assault charge can be sucsessfully defended if extreme provocation can be shown to have caused the assault.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Meh.
Meat is murder.
ohh god not PETA again :p
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excel is correct again.
lazs
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Originally posted by Slash27
Killing is my business, and business is good!!!
Murdr is some hot to trot P-38 driver.
Lol
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By the way, my CPID is spelled that way because I was conserving "E" when I created it.
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I was educated recently on this very forum recently. Apparently the sixth commandment was mistranslated as 'Thou shalt not kill' whereas in fact is should read 'You shall not murder'.
Thus you can kill enemies, execute prisoners, drop atomic bombs, defend yourself or others, start wars, plant bombs and generally create mayhem and destruction etc etc without any fear of retribution as long as it's not personal.
On the other hand if you murder someone for personal gain or pleasure it's murder and you are in big trouble.
Killing, therefore is pretty much OK even laudable.
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Originally posted by Yeager
I am inspired to wit:
How many roads most a man walk down
Before you call him a man ?
How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand ?
Yes, how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned ?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.
Yes, how many years can a mountain exist
Before it's washed to the sea ?
Yes, how many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free ?
Yes, how many times can a man turn his head
Pretending he just doesn't see ?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.
Yes, how many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky ?
Yes, how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry ?
Yes, how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died ?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.
Dylan stole that song (word for word)from some other unknown folkie...He was taken to court years later and settled out of court for an undisclosed amount.
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cpx.. killing is often a very good thing... murder is not. even a soldier can murder.. often they are brought up on charges over it... in U.S. armies of course... others... not so much.
lazs