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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hubsonfire on February 28, 2007, 06:28:48 PM
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Here it is, the only known (to me) film of the collision detection system not working. Taken on the evening of Jan 9, 2007.
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1014_1172707950_ram_0130.ahf
CAUTION: This brief film contains coarse language, hordes, dweebs, HOtards, TTards, and drunks (well, one anyway). Best viewed with the sound down, unless you're not offended by me saying "bull****".
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Dead Horse Running.
-SR-:rolleyes:
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this just confirms falcnwings' claims that bk's are infact ladies. :aok
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He's not a BK duh!
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(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/384_1172716389_whaaaam.jpg)
Here's the Spit ramming the La ... I don't get it - what's not working?
Like the way you looked away before the hit ... hehe maybe thinking if I don't see it, it won't happen .... it's not that kind of "see".
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i cant c the movie can u put it in another form?
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Originally posted by SuperDud
He's not a BK duh!
so they kicked all the women out?
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I don't get it - what's not working?
think he means the text...ie collision message, you know "furboll has collided with so and so" or "so and so collided with furboll".
Didnt see either of those in the text in clip.
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:huh
The only possible explanation, (other than a glitch, and I admit, this may be a stretch), is that Medic477 had a guns solution on you and shot off your wing before the apparent collision. Thus, although the film seems to show a collision, to your PC your wing was already damaged/gone before the LA went through it. A momentary lag between CPU deciding this and graphics displaying it, just happening to coincide with the visual of the LA hitting the wing.
Working for this theory is that AFAIK you do not see hit sprites on your own plane from outside sources, thus the possibility that your wing came off due to weapons and not the apparent collision. Also working for is his positioning in relation to your aircraft -- he is close and appears to be trying to follow your flight path, indicating the possibility he was in reality on target.
Neutral to the theory is Medic477s position at the moment of the kill. He ended up the closest to you as far as I can tell. So, his kill could be a proxy for being closest to your collision-downed plane, or could be because of landed weapons fire. Offers no evidence either way.
Working against this theory is that the film does not capture him firing -- I am not sure if the film is 100% accurate and capable of picking up every con in the area that is firing (a few seconds of film earlier may show whether he was firing just before and not captured in your clip due to lag). Also against IMO is that Medic477 is in a Hurri I. Although I am sure it is possible to get a clean insta-wing-shear from his range, it is less likely than if he was in a IIC or some other cannon armed plane.
Please send the film to HTC. It would be very interesting to find out what we are seeing here.
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Originally posted by killnu
think he means the text...ie collision message, you know "furboll has collided with so and so" or "so and so collided with furboll".
Didnt see either of those in the text in clip.
Accidentally edit out part text instead of voice?
Notice no 200, country, range, or squad until after crash. That is unusual.
:noid :noid
Bronk
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The film, aside from the first few minutes being clipped out, is unedited. The text and vox have not been touched. If you play it at extreme slow speed, I collide with the La7 twice- taking his wing and tailplane through my left wing.
At first, I'd thought the La had taken my wing off in a shot, and that he was medic#s. However, he's actually a tailing hurri1. Also, if I'm not mistaken, there are no muzzle flashes or tracers from him in this part of the fight, which I think I saw in the earlier bit. Additionally, you'll notice that it doesn't say I've been shot down, but rather that I crashed, and medic receives the proxy. I have custom sounds for almost everything, one benefit being that I can usually tell if I'm being hit with light MGs, cannons, etc, and there is nothing but the little gray puff as the wings pass, and then my wing comes off. I think you can also see hit sprites on your plane as well as your enemies, but I am in no way certain of that. I'll look at some of my other films to see if this is actually the case.
There is no notification, no nothing. I'd tagged this film, and set it aside, and only today, as I was trying to get my viewer woes sorted out, that I actually watched it trying to sort out what happens.
Firing animations and sounds from the other planes, but nothing from the Hurri1. He enters the film relatively late, and I'd taken no hits, having just entered the fray a minute earlier. Also, if the positions for the enemy planes are correct, he's nowhere near pulling lead on me, but I don't know how accurate the film is with regard to everybody's orientation.
Lastly, notice there's a little puff of smoke as our wings pass, and then a fraction of a second later, in I go, confused, drunk, and helpless.
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Hmm hub Then i'd say send it in and hope ht has better answer.
Strange no collision message because like you said "I collide with the La7 twice- taking his wing and tailplane through my left wing.".
This is defiantly an interesting one.
Hope you get an answer.
Bronk
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I do not believe the orange you have collide message shows in films.
HiTech
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Originally posted by hitech
I do not believe the orange you have collide message shows in films.
HiTech
LoL
Hitech, I remember yourself saying that it doesnt in a past collision thread :).
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Originally posted by hitech
I do not believe the orange you have collide message shows in films.
HiTech
:lol That would explain a few things.
We need a collision sound or some kind of cue. What a complete and total waste of about 5 minutes.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Here it is, the only known (to me) film of the collision detection system not working. Taken on the evening of Jan 9, 2007.
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1014_1172707950_ram_0130.ahf
CAUTION: This brief film contains coarse language, hordes, dweebs, HOtards, TTards, and drunks (well, one anyway). Best viewed with the sound down, unless you're not offended by me saying "bull****".
Slowed it down to like .11 then to .04... No hit sprites from any "merge"... Only thing I'm thinking is wing stress?... Maybe??
Any thoughts on this?
Was cool though.. thought I was seeing his spent shell casings flying through the air as you were past him.
4XTCH
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Looks like it was, in fact, collision damage, but the system message doesn't show up in film.
I had a thought last night that the messages wouldn't show, but I had another film of me being rammed (receiving the white text), and after seeing that was recorded, and all the other system messages, I'd assumed (incorrectly) that the collision message (orange text) was also recorded.
Anyway, this is kind of confusing, but apparently everything works except film.
ps Tell 2meatpockets he's a HOtard. :p
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Exactly 30 seconds after this thread was first posted, Superfly started to hear a mysterious knocking on his office wall...
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It's a spit16 vs an la-7....does anything else really matter? Who cares what happened:D
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Originally posted by humble
It's a spit16 vs an la-7....does anything else really matter?
Now THATs funny
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
ps Tell 2meatpockets he's a HOtard. :p
Respectfully,
I will not get involved in any dissagreement you may have with a fellow squadie. If you have unresolved issues, it's in your best interest to address them with him.
I'm not here to hijack this thread. I commented on your film.
I know what a good stick you are, I respect that. I also know that Rams...Ho's... Collisions ... all exist in this game... in all the arenas.. We all hate them, we all have done them at some point in our online sim experience.
That is all
4XTCH:D
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Originally posted by mussie
Exactly 30 seconds after this thread was first posted, Superfly started to hear a mysterious knocking on his office wall...
LOL mussie :)
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has to be seen listening to
Wanna be a baller -- Little Troy
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Originally posted by mussie
Exactly 30 seconds after this thread was first posted, Superfly started to hear a mysterious knocking on his office wall...
:rofl :rofl :rofl
We want part 8, mussie! ;)