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Title: Trees
Post by: Kuhn on March 02, 2007, 03:48:54 AM
Just logged off. Kinda POed. Took up a 262 and had a great time scattering the bad guys, even got a kill on a 190. Fuel got low so I RTB to a field 25miles behind the front. Come in for a nice long slow approach. Just about to the runway and BAM A STINKIN TREE IS RIGHT THERE AT THE END OF THE RUNWAY!!!! Really sucks losing 148 perkies because of a tree I couldn't see untill I was right on top of it. I wish the trees werent at the end of the runways EVER!!!  :mad:   :furious
Title: Trees
Post by: NHawk on March 02, 2007, 05:45:20 AM
Why? There are trees/obstructions at ends of runways in the real world. In my flying days there was this one at 06C....

45 ft. trees, 1155 ft. from runway, 21:1 slope to clear
76 ft. tank, lighted, 3054 ft. from runway, 570 ft. left of centerline, 37:1 slope to clear

And that was AFTER they improved the airport and tore down some trees that were much closer to the runway.

And my other favorites from KPWK where I learned to fly....

61 ft. tree, 733 ft. from runway, 419 ft. left of centerline, 8:1 slope to clear
13 ft. road, 200 ft. from runway, 325 ft. left of centerline
46 ft. tree, 666 ft. from runway, 74 ft. right of centerline, 10:1 slope to clear
70 ft. trees, 323 ft. from runway, 12 ft. right of centerline, 1:1 slope to clear
69 ft. tree, 1208 ft. from runway, 93 ft. left of centerline, 14:1 slope to clear
Title: Trees
Post by: KINGcobra on March 02, 2007, 10:10:31 AM
all,

same thing happens to me all the time a dam tree right at the end of the runway. it's hard enough landing with trees right their let alone trying to get bombers up with trees their.
Also having MT.'s right at the end of runways...who would build a runway right by a dam HT.
Title: Trees
Post by: VooWho on March 02, 2007, 10:21:32 AM
It apears your aproching the runway to low. If you worried about trees just try to land a little closer to the middle of the runway, and come in from a nice high decent.
Title: Trees
Post by: Denholm on March 02, 2007, 10:37:18 AM
Or you could always increase your graphic detail so you see the tree sooner.:aok
Title: Re: Trees
Post by: Bronk on March 02, 2007, 11:05:43 AM
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Originally posted by Kuhn
Just logged off. Kinda POed. Took up a 262 and had a great time scattering the bad guys, even got a kill on a 190. Fuel got low so I RTB to a field 25miles behind the front. Come in for a nice long slow approach. Just about to the runway and BAM A STINKIN TREE IS RIGHT THERE AT THE END OF THE RUNWAY!!!! Really sucks losing 148 perkies because of a tree I couldn't see untill I was right on top of it. I wish the trees werent at the end of the runways EVER!!!  :mad:   :furious

How did this 1337 EW/MW pile-it get a 262?

:D :noid
Bronk
Title: Trees
Post by: Masherbrum on March 02, 2007, 12:31:27 PM
Next people will want Cartoon Planes with wing mounted Stihl chainsaws.

Trees
Title: Trees
Post by: Traveler on March 02, 2007, 02:44:16 PM
Perhaps you need to consider that from this point forward there will always be trees at the very end o f the runway. at every runway.
Title: Trees
Post by: whiteman on March 02, 2007, 02:47:46 PM
i like the tree's, when i get low i'll hop over and dip down between tree's and lose someone on my six if i can't shake them.
Title: Trees
Post by: Masherbrum on March 02, 2007, 04:29:17 PM
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Originally posted by whiteman
i like the tree's, when i get low i'll hop over and dip down between tree's and lose someone on my six if i can't shake them.


I've had trees above me.   Hearing the "spontaneous combustion" of the con, leaves a warm, fuzzy feeling.
Title: Trees
Post by: Wes14 on March 02, 2007, 05:31:47 PM
thats what trees r for:aok ..whats worse then invisible  trees is when my pc acts up and i cant see where the runways are:mad: :furious
Title: Re: Re: Trees
Post by: Kuhn on March 03, 2007, 12:52:12 AM
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Originally posted by Bronk
How did this 1337 EW/MW pile-it get a 262?

:D :noid
Bronk


What you talkin about willis?
Title: Re: Trees
Post by: Xasthur on March 03, 2007, 01:05:49 AM
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Originally posted by Kuhn
Just logged off. Kinda POed. Took up a 262 and had a great time scattering the bad guys, even got a kill on a 190. Fuel got low so I RTB to a field 25miles behind the front. Come in for a nice long slow approach. Just about to the runway and BAM A STINKIN TREE IS RIGHT THERE AT THE END OF THE RUNWAY!!!! Really sucks losing 148 perkies because of a tree I couldn't see untill I was right on top of it. I wish the trees werent at the end of the runways EVER!!!  :mad:   :furious


This happened to me with a wing-tipped 262. had the landing approach nicely---- boom. haha

There is usually at least one approach to the field that does not have a tree in a direct line of flight, it wise to circle the field low and slow and survey it for the best approach.

This is only really worth it in the 262 and maybe even the Arado, but it does pay off.

Especially when you're 25 miles behind the front and in no danger.
Title: Trees
Post by: Denholm on March 03, 2007, 12:12:50 PM
Usually the E-W runways do not have trees. Simply because the tiles are designed into 4 halves, the E-W runways are in the middle of that 4 halves transition and usually don't have any trees infront of the runways.
Title: Re: Re: Trees
Post by: Kuhn on March 03, 2007, 01:00:48 PM
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Originally posted by Xasthur
This happened to me with a wing-tipped 262. had the landing approach nicely---- boom. haha

There is usually at least one approach to the field that does not have a tree in a direct line of flight, it wise to circle the field low and slow and survey it for the best approach.

This is only really worth it in the 262 and maybe even the Arado, but it does pay off.

Especially when you're 25 miles behind the front and in no danger.


Good advice. Ill put the into practice on my next 262 flight. :aok
Title: Trees
Post by: EagleDNY on March 03, 2007, 02:13:18 PM
If you are flying luftwaffe rides, taking off into the trees is quite realistic - especially if you are flying LW arenas.  

In early '45, JG26 had a base that was literally inside a pine forest - they had to do this to be able to hide their rides from the allied jabos.  They would land in a clearing and have their rides pushed under trees to hide them while they were refueled and rearmed.  Takeoffs were just as hairy, as you had to get up and over the trees with a load of fuel & ordnance, and any engine troubles meant that you were going to be kissing the trees.

EagleDNY

"Hangers?   Hangers?   We don't need no stinking hangers..."
Title: Trees
Post by: Spikes on March 03, 2007, 05:51:04 PM
i think its shift 1, 2 or 3, but one of em changes ur range...put ground vis range on....it might be shift f1, f2, f3

i forgot...it works though.
Title: Trees
Post by: Denholm on March 05, 2007, 10:20:38 AM
That's another good one, I put my visibility range to maximum.
Title: Re: Trees
Post by: StarRdr58 on March 05, 2007, 12:43:27 PM
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Originally posted by Kuhn
Just logged off. Kinda POed. Took up a 262 and had a great time scattering the bad guys, even got a kill on a 190. Fuel got low so I RTB to a field 25miles behind the front. Come in for a nice long slow approach. Just about to the runway and BAM A STINKIN TREE IS RIGHT THERE AT THE END OF THE RUNWAY!!!! Really sucks losing 148 perkies because of a tree I couldn't see untill I was right on top of it. I wish the trees werent at the end of the runways EVER!!!  :mad:   :furious



Circle around and come in from the other end of the runway.  Haven't found one yet that has trees at both ends. Dang  :O   ... maybe I shouldn't have said that. Might have just jinxed myself.  :lol