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Title: Patent question
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 03, 2007, 12:27:47 PM
What does it take to patent something.
and how does one go about it?

I have an idea that might be worth looking into doing exactly that.

No Im not gonna tell you what it is LMAO
Title: Patent question
Post by: nirvana on March 03, 2007, 12:28:38 PM
Submit it to the patent office and maybe get a lawyer to handle that legal stuff.  That's my best guess anyway, good luck.

This is from wikipedia so take it how you want
 
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In order to obtain a patent, an applicant must provide a written description of his or her invention in sufficient detail for a person skilled in the art (i.e., the relevant area of technology) to make and use the invention. This written description is provided in what is known as the patent specification, which often is accompanied by figures that show how the invention is made and how it operates. In addition, at the end of the specification, the applicant must provide the patent office with one or more claims that distinctly point out what the applicant regards as his or her invention.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent
Title: Patent question
Post by: Roscoroo on March 03, 2007, 12:39:19 PM
its best to have a legal beagle type draw up the app ...

you can do it your self if you can speak legalnese . pay the fees and submit it .

Best advice is keep the idea to yourself til it gets approved ..this can take anywere from 6 mo. to 3 yrs .


Beshure you do the research and check that it hasnt already been pat.
Title: Patent question
Post by: Ball on March 03, 2007, 01:06:19 PM
inflatable sheep have already been invented.  sorry.
Title: Patent question
Post by: AquaShrimp on March 03, 2007, 01:31:03 PM
I think it costs around $5000-$7000 to file a patent.
Title: Patent question
Post by: Blooz on March 03, 2007, 01:57:12 PM
The US Patent Office should have a website.

Probably one of those ending in .gov


I looked into the procedure briefly 25 years ago. I recall the fee was about $20,000. That's when I lost interest in filing a patent.
Title: Patent question
Post by: Roscoroo on March 03, 2007, 03:13:44 PM
Pat fees here (http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/qs/ope/fee2004dec08.htm)

Patent How too here (http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/howtopat.htm)

More general pat stuff (http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/doc/general/index.html)


Its not as expensive as you think .. It cost me around 700 ea for 2 of mine , and 1500 for my 1st one .


It gets more expensive as per the more parts/pieces ect are involved and depends on the Research time involved.  yes some Pats can get up to 20k .

 
beware of money grabbers ..
Title: Patent question
Post by: WhiteHawk on March 03, 2007, 06:24:52 PM
Damm, there goes my solar powered umbrella idea.:(
Title: Patent question
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 03, 2007, 07:33:44 PM
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
Pat fees here (http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/qs/ope/fee2004dec08.htm)

Patent How too here (http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/howtopat.htm)

More general pat stuff (http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/doc/general/index.html)


Its not as expensive as you think .. It cost me around 700 ea for 2 of mine , and 1500 for my 1st one .


It gets more expensive as per the more parts/pieces ect are involved and depends on the Research time involved.  yes some Pats can get up to 20k .

 
beware of money grabbers ..


Ok thats more like it.
I didnt expect it would be free but 20K +??

Thats downright offencive and unfair.

At that kinda price they might as well pass a law saying that only big business is allowed to file for and hold patents
Title: Patent question
Post by: Roscoroo on March 03, 2007, 07:56:02 PM
the price kinda goes on how much paper you send them ..

say you build a new mouse trap and theres 20 pieces /parts that you developed in the trap ... you may need to patent each and every piece . thats when the price starts climbing fast .

but there is the chance that you could sell it and make big bucks or royalties on your idea .


oh yea you need to find the current price list ,, that one i posted was from a couple yrs ago when I was developing some new parts
Title: Patent question
Post by: AWMac on March 03, 2007, 08:37:00 PM
Pffft....

ElectroMagneticMagnification. ...

Mine, Mine, Mine....

Mac
Title: Patent question
Post by: JazzFan on March 03, 2007, 09:29:16 PM
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
the price kinda goes on how much paper you send them ..

say you build a new mouse trap and theres 20 pieces /parts that you developed in the trap ... you may need to patent each and every piece . thats when the price starts climbing fast .

but there is the chance that you could sell it and make big bucks or royalties on your idea .


oh yea you need to find the current price list ,, that one i posted was from a couple yrs ago when I was developing some new parts
Don't forget the payment for the investigation to make sure there is no other patent similar, and so on...

thats where the REAL money goes, into that investigation, and research. well, that and the lawyers making the "official" patent legalese.


remember, there are SO many patents that making sure what you are submitting is unique and new is the HARDEST part.
Title: Patent question
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 04, 2007, 07:09:41 AM
hmmm.
Wonder if Matthew Lesko knows of a government grant to get the money for such things.

(http://www.compwareusa.com/lesko_books/images/insane1.jpg)
Title: Patent question
Post by: Skuzzy on March 04, 2007, 07:42:11 AM
Rich people and lawyers make all the laws and regulations.  Now, in all honesty, who do you think is going to benefit more from those laws and regulations?

There are ideas out there from improving gas mileage (over 200MPG, yes 200) to cutting costs of heating/cooling (1/5 the cost) a home which will never see the light of day due to the guys not having money to file the patents.

Inventors are just that.  They invent.  They suck at writting business plans and making presentations to potential investors.  So, unless you are already rich, you can just about give up on any idea which involves a patent.

I have known many brilliant people who will die poor and frustrated.  They have brilliant ideas.  Spend most of thie life trying to get enough money together to build a working model, and that is where it ends.  The model works, but no one cares.
Title: Re: Patent question
Post by: midnight Target on March 04, 2007, 11:19:43 AM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
What does it take to patent something.
and how does one go about it?

I have an idea that might be worth looking into doing exactly that.

No Im not gonna tell you what it is LMAO


Ask Sikboy. I hear he might have some experience with this question.
Title: Patent question
Post by: Xargos on March 04, 2007, 11:51:56 AM
Al Gore invented inventions.