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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Kieran on March 04, 2007, 06:27:53 AM
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Okay, someone has to start the thread.
Ann Coulter, while speaking to a group of conservatives yesterday, referred to John Edwards as a "studmuffingot".
"I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate, John Edwards, but it turns out that you have to go into rehab if you use the word 'studmuffingot,' so I'm - so, kind of at an impasse, can't really talk about Edwards, so I think I'll just conclude here and take your questions," said Coulter, whose comment was followed by applause.
Okay, that's not good. But I do have to chuckle at her followup when called to task...
"C'mon, it was a joke. I would never insult gays by suggesting that they are like John Edwards. That would be mean."
Heh.
I'm no Ann Coulter fan, but I'll give her this, she has no time for the PC crowd. We at least have that in common.
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And the funny thing is, she was right. The whole country freaks out if you say that word. Now that she said it in the exact way she did (basically predicting that everyone would freak out), it's pretty much a race to show who's the biggest weenie.
It was kind of a dumb thing to say, but frankly I'm glad she said it because the PC nonsense is getting nuts again. It's going to be hard for anyone to really say she said it in a hate filled way (although that's exactly what the biggest spazoids are claiming) so score one for freedom of speech.
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Ann Coulter is one of the most seemingly hate-filled conservative zealots out there. I've discussed this with my friends before, but I think she puts on a show to sell books and get airtime on conservative networks.
But really, does she have that limited of a vocabularly that she has to refer to Mr. Edwards as a "studmuffingot"? Or is she just catering to her core audience (working and lower middle class americans) who frequently use the word?
The thing about Coulter that gets me is that she is not about compromise. She widens the rift between the parties (and the ideologies) of America. We've all seen what happens when one slight majority does something that the slight minority doesn't agree with (Iraq war). How about not calling people studmuffingots, and maybe proposing some ideas that both parties can agree on?
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what he said.
:aok
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this is a promising thread. good man.
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I'd hit it :D
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Or is she just catering to her core audience (working and lower middle class americans) who frequently use the word?
and you are non-working upper class?
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Originally posted by eagl
And the funny thing is, she was right. The whole country freaks out if you say that word. Now that she said it in the exact way she did (basically predicting that everyone would freak out), it's pretty much a race to show who's the biggest weenie.
It was kind of a dumb thing to say, but frankly I'm glad she said it because the PC nonsense is getting nuts again. It's going to be hard for anyone to really say she said it in a hate filled way (although that's exactly what the biggest spazoids are claiming) so score one for freedom of speech.
Ann says everything in a hate-filled way - it seems to be part of her delivery.
I get tired of PC extremes too but I hardly think expecting people to refrain from calling presidential candidates "studmuffingots" is nonsense.
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Old horse-face is at it again..lol
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For folks who don't like her there seems to be quite a few who apparently listen to her. I get her content here simply because I don't listen to her or any other talk radio.
If you don't like her, don't listen. Ther has to be something else on the radio at the time to listen to. Why waste your time listening to something you hate? :huh
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LMAO both lines were the best things she has had to say in years.
I dont particularly like her but I'll giove her this much.
She has more balls then any member of either party
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I can see how that IS a lots worse than calling Bush a lying murderer, or comparing our soldiers to Nazis---the original guy who went to 'rehab' for saying 'studmuffingot'...was it a hollywierd guy or a sports guy? I remember it was a couple-three months ago
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The same people who will whine about how "mean" Ann Coulter is will read Ted Rall and slobber over how great he is. Figures.
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Hmmm..more here than meets the eye:rofl
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I don't hear coulter much except here.
I think she was very clever in getting the whole thing out... one that there is something very metrosexual (at the very least) about edwards and two, that the whold PC and rehab thing has gotten very 1984,
I also find it amusing that the most hate filled name callers... the left... seem upset about this minor thing.
I would say she was right on the mark for an entertainer. Why is it only funny when the left does it like that mahr guy or gerafalo?
As for comprimise? I don't believe it is a good idea to comprimise with the left and the blue staters... I see what it has got us so far and figure... enough is enough. I have a real "hate" for the socialists.
lazs
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The best thing about Ann imo is that her shots and quips almost always seem to hit a sore spot (admitedly big targets) on the bleeding hearts. WTG Ann :aok
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:rofl I don't know what's funnier. Her joke or your reactions.
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Ahhh...she finally apologizes
linky (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/04/us/politics/04coulter.html?_r=4&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin)
“C’mon, it was a joke. I would never insult gays by suggesting that they are like John Edwards. That would be mean.”
:rofl
(An aside--havent heard much about Edward's campaign staffers/bloggers insulting Catholics...wonder why...
Days after Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards decided against firing two liberal bloggers with a history of inflammatory writing, one resigned last night with a blast at "right wing shills" for driving her out of the campaign.
--That can easily be taken to presume Edwards concurrs with their views:
Among other things, Marcotte had written: "The Catholic church is not about to let something like compassion for girls get in the way of using the state as an instrument to force women to bear more tithing Catholics." She also questioned, in explicit language, what would have happened if the Virgin Mary had taken the emergency contraceptive called Plan B.
Last month, Marcotte wrote of the Duke University rape case: "Can't a few white boys sexually assault a black woman anymore without people getting all wound up about it? So unfair."
McEwan, whose status with the Edwards campaign is apparently unchanged, has referred to President Bush's conservative Christian supporters as his "wingnut Christofascist base."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/12/AR2007021201632.html
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
But really, does she have that limited of a vocabularly that she has to refer to Mr. Edwards as a "studmuffingot"? Or is she just catering to her core audience (working and lower middle class americans) who frequently use the word?
Not like Mr. Edwards would ever use a hot button word to stir up his audience.
Because, as a politician he is WAY above doing anything like that to get a vote.
:rolleyes:
Bronk
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I'm a conservative.
I can't stand to listen to political radio talk,on either side.
But I don't believe Mr.Edwards has any right to be annoyed at Ann for her remark...not after the smug little comment he made to Cheney during the debate.
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Dems are all for freedom of speech, unless it's about speaking the truth.
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Mr.Edwards is a smooth talking lawyer who made his $60 million fortune convincing juries that the doctors that delivered the babies caused birth defects.
Mr.Edwards is one of the reasons that your medical insurance costs so much.
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Originally posted by Xargos
Dems are all for freedom of speech, unless it's a conservative speaking.
Fixed
Bronk
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lol.... :aok
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Dems are all for freedom of speech, unless it's a conservative speaking.
That is about the most truthful statement I have ever seen on this board.
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Since Ann almost certainly has an adams apple I wonder what that makes her supporters?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Since Ann almost certainly has an adams apple I wonder what that makes her supporters?
what are you trying to say? And what does "almost certainly" mean?
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Originally posted by Dago
That is about the most truthful statement I have ever seen on this board.
LOL I think that's a ridiculous statement, especially in light of the "free speech zones" that Bush employs during his speeches.
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Free speech and slander are two seperate things.
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Free speech and slander are two seperate things.
Libs most certainly know what slander is.
:cool:
Bronk
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Originally posted by oboe
LOL I think that's a ridiculous statement, especially in light of the "free speech zones" that Bush employs during his speeches.
You ever try and watch a conservative speak at a college? Libbies come shouting, they just cant risk an intelligent opposing point of view show what fools they are.
Ever watch a libbie on a talk show against a conservative? Libbie dumbarse is so desperately afraid of the conservative making him look stupid, he will never let the conservative speak, just keeps loudly talking over him.
Bush lets libbies speak, just moves them away so they cannot pull the typical libbie crap of shouting over him. Smart move I would say, he doesnt block them, but he doesnt let them block him either. Obviously smarter than the drooling libbies, and a lot more fair too. But dont let that stop your from regurgitation the demodummie line.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Since Ann almost certainly has an adams apple I wonder what that makes her supporters?
Spoken like a person without something intelligent enough to counter what she says, just go to something irrelevant to the message.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Since Ann almost certainly has an adams apple I wonder what that makes her supporters?
Ohh look at this.
If a conservative had said this, a lib would be twisting this into some homophobic rant.
But because a lib said it, it's perfectly acceptable and humorous.
Hello hypocrisy, thy name is midnight Target.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Bronk
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Ann Coulter is one of the most seemingly hate-filled conservative zealots out there. I've discussed this with my friends before, but I think she puts on a show to sell books and get airtime on conservative networks.
Aqua,
I don't know her personally. So I don't know that hate fills her -- is the stimulus and motivates her.
I disagree with her tone when I read what she writes.
I think you're 2nd sentence is spot on.
A zillion dollars a year, and Y'ALL are going to quit riding that pony?
hap
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No doubt Ann enjoys poking the self-righteous blowhards or that she likes earning a living at it. There's also no doubt that there is a lot of truth in her jabs.
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Originally posted by Dago
Spoken like a person without something intelligent enough to counter what she says, just go to something irrelevant to the message.
Irrelevant to the message.. heh.
If only I had the foresight to call someone a studmuffingot. That would be intelligent wouldn't it?
You need to look up irony in the dictionary.
:aok
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If I don't find a Libertarian worthy to vote for in the next election I'll write in Ann Coulter for President before I'll vote for any of those tards that have thrown in their hat thus far.
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Ann Coulter is hilarious.. she should have a show between John Stewart and Steven Colbert.
shamus
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Originally posted by Dago
You ever try and watch a conservative speak at a college? Libbies come shouting, they just cant risk an intelligent opposing point of view show what fools they are.
Ever watch a libbie on a talk show against a conservative? Libbie dumbarse is so desperately afraid of the conservative making him look stupid, he will never let the conservative speak, just keeps loudly talking over him.
Bush lets libbies speak, just moves them away so they cannot pull the typical libbie crap of shouting over him. Smart move I would say, he doesnt block them, but he doesnt let them block him either. Obviously smarter than the drooling libbies, and a lot more fair too. But dont let that stop your from regurgitation the demodummie line.
Any group of people trying to silence a speaker by shouting them down reminds me of Nazis, no matter which side of the political spectrum they belong to.
Yes, I have seen a liberal debate a conservative on a talk show. I remember it was Katrina Vanden Heuvel, talking to some conservative guy whose name I can't recall, about Strom Thurmond's illegitimate black daughter, which I think became public knowledge after his death. I never did find out what Katrina's position was because she wasn't allowed to finish a complete sentence before the conservative guy interrupted her. Every time she tried to speak. It was on national TV - MSNBC I think. That's how I got the same impression of conservatives that you have of liberals.
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Oboe,
Sad sign of our times. I just offically decided no more FOX, CNN, and CBS bookmarks on the computer.
Not that I think I will really stick with it. But I hope I do.
What remains are the following, and they seem free of bad manners.
ZENIT: The World Seen from Rome -- Catholic
The American Cause: Pat Buchanan's Site
Real Clear Politics: Wide spectrum and thus far seems relevant and peritnent.
The News Hour: My favorite boring stand by. They don't yell.
BBC: Just started reading this one.
Under the heading "bad manners," I toss all the gross stuff that happens that is not newsworthy.
All the Best,
hap
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I'm thrilled that the PC crowd is up in arms about this. I wonder if they can sustain their energy enough for this topic and for the global warming farce they are perpetuating.
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I am glad someone is speaking their mind. The limpwristed PC crap has got to go... It's time to call things exactly what they are.
One Florida legislator actually wants illegal aliens called "Undocumented CITIZENS" on all official paperwork.
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so, is it proven that Edwards does not smoke the baloney pony?
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I see dumb people!
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Originally posted by namvet
I see dumb people!
Then stop going to Democrat Conventions.
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Originally posted by Xargos
Then stop going to Democrat Conventions.
:rofl
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She is certainly one of just a few who will speak her mind; too bad she's so rude though. Any intelligent remark she ever makes never be effective thanks to the countless remarks that are stained with such venom. She's certainly smart enough to take another route with it. She must enjoy it to not take that other route.
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Originally posted by texasmom
She is certainly one of just a few who will speak her mind; too bad she's so rude though. Any intelligent remark she ever makes never be effective thanks to the countless remarks that are stained with such venom. She's certainly smart enough to take another route with it. She must enjoy it to not take that other route.
Too bad she isn't very intelligent either. I still laugh at the interview with a Canadian journalist that made her look like a complete and total idiot. Which, actually isn't all that hard since she pretty much proves it every time she opens her mouth.
Before you spout the liberal PC drivel, I'm a registered Republican and have been so for close to 20 years.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Too bad she isn't very intelligent either. I still laugh at the interview with a Canadian journalist that made her look like a complete and total idiot. Which, actually isn't all that hard since she pretty much proves it every time she opens her mouth.
Before you spout the liberal PC drivel, I'm a registered Republican and have been so for close to 20 years.
ack-ack
I'm a republican too. I think that she definitely is intelligent; unfortunately just not smart. She'd be able to make her points a lot better if she wasn't spending her entire time sharp-shooting everyone.
LOL ~ liberal PC drivel ~
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Too bad she isn't very intelligent either. I still laugh at the interview with a Canadian journalist that made her look like a complete and total idiot. Which, actually isn't all that hard since she pretty much proves it every time she opens her mouth.
Before you spout the liberal PC drivel, I'm a registered Republican and have been so for close to 20 years.
ack-ack
Actually, folks like you mistaken her for "not intellgent" due to outrageous statements she makes. She is very well educated, and a member of Mensa.
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I think she is both intelligent and smart, though a bit long in the neck. :D
She does however despise the liberal/socialist/communist agenda and enjoys baiting those adherents.
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The thing about Coulter that gets me is.....
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If coulter gets under your skin then you seriously need some thicker skin bro, she is a very tame shrew.
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I guess lamenting that V.P. Cheny wasn't killed in a bomb blast isn't newsworthy
Maher: What about the people who got onto the Huffington Post – and these weren’t even the bloggers, these were just the comments section – who said they, they expressed regret that the attack on Dick Cheney failed.
Joe Scarborough: Right.
Maher: Now…
John Ridley: More than regret.
Maher: Well, what did they say?
Ridley: They said "We wish he would die.” I mean, it was hate language.
Barney Frank: They said the bomb was wasted. (laughter and applause)
Maher: That’s a funny joke. But, seriously, if this isn’t China, shouldn’t you be able to say that? Why did Arianna Huffington, my girlfriend, I love her, but why did she take that off right away?
Later, the panelists continued the discussion:
Ridley: It’s one thing to say you hate Dick Cheney, which applies to his politics. It’s another thing to say, "I’m sorry he didn’t die in an explosion." And I think, you know…
Maher: But you should be able to say it. And by the way...
Frank: Excuse me, Bill, but can I ask you a question? Do you decide what the topics are for this show?
Maher: Yeah, I decide the topics, they don’t go there.
Frank: But you exercise control over the show the way that she does over her blog.
Maher: But I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people wouldn’t be dying needlessly tomorrow. (applause)
Scarborough: If someone on this panel said that they wished that Dick Cheney had been blown up, and you didn’t say…
Frank: I think he did.
Scarborough: Okay. Did you say…
Maher: No, no. I quoted that.
Frank: You don’t believe that?
Maher: I’m just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That’s a fact.
Despite Maher's outrageous comments, few in the media picked up the story -- although Ann Coulter's comment use of a gay slur in reference to former Sen. John Edwards received widespread attention.
Maher got in trouble once before with his televised comments. After the 9/11 attacks, Maher said on his ABC show "Politically Incorrect" that the hijackers were "warriors" and not "cowards."
Within months the show was canceled.
video http://www.newsbusters.org/
text http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/3/4/213100.shtml?s=ic
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I dont get is how Coulter gets the leftie up in a mouth frothing rage.
When I listen to those real hate spewers, Randi Rhodes, and that Garafalo chick, I laugh at their rantings and ravings
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meh.
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The GOP has certainly lost its way. What does the party really stand for? They are anti-science, anti bio-technology, pro-Mexico, pro-China, pro-war, and pro-Christianity.
Of course Republicans are laughing and cheering as Ann Coulter calls someone a studmuffingot. Why not? If you're gay, its wrong and you're going to burn in a pool of lava anyways. Might as well call them a derogatory name while you're at it!
The Republicans do not have a good history of treating other people very well, and that includes poor Republicans. I have no idea why so many people living paycheck to paycheck continue to vote Republican. They are just furthering their own demises.
There is a reason that the majority of professional scientists and academics in the U.S. are Democrat.
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Frankly, I don't like the far right OR the far left... problem is, the moderates will never get any airtime because they aren't 'news-worthy'.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Actually, folks like you mistaken her for "not intellgent" due to outrageous statements she makes. She is very well educated, and a member of Mensa.
Mensa is also Spanish slang for a stupid girl. How fitting.
I wonder if she's finally figured out that Canada didn't fight in the Vietnam War.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
The GOP has certainly lost its way. What does the party really stand for? They are anti-science, anti bio-technology, pro-Mexico, pro-China, pro-war, and pro-Christianity.
Of course Republicans are laughing and cheering as Ann Coulter calls someone a studmuffingot. Why not? If you're gay, its wrong and you're going to burn in a pool of lava anyways. Might as well call them a derogatory name while you're at it!
The Republicans do not have a good history of treating other people very well, and that includes poor Republicans. I have no idea why so many people living paycheck to paycheck continue to vote Republican. They are just furthering their own demises.
There is a reason that the majority of professional scientists and academics in the U.S. are Democrat.
Why, I believe you just came this -->][<-- close to calling the GOP and conservative America white trash. Bigot. Note no smiley.
On top of that, you managed to mischaracterize the entire right in the process. If I wanted to do the same I *might* suggest the abortions you support kill many times more innocent victims each year than all the coalition deaths in the current Iraq war. But, as one of your party shills says, that would be an "Inconvenient Truth".
Don't confuse the lack of support for PC to mean support for Ann Coulter. Unless it furthers your agenda, that is.
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Hi Kieran,
I believe you just came this -->][<-- close to calling the GOP and conservative America white trash.
Take your time to read some threads here, and you will see why this could lead one to believe just that.
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Ah yes... the sweet music of partisan politics. Both sides rant and accuse the other of destroying the country, meanwhile nothing gets done.
Guess what... both sides are destroying the country, too bad there isn't a decent third party to take advantage of the average citizens' disgust of the petty bickering.
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Hi Kieran,
Take your time to read some threads here, and you will see why this could lead one to believe just that.
STFU, nobody cares what a Frog thinks :)
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I thought she was calling him a pork meatball or an archaic unit of measure :)
Did she mean effeminate?
My word. Call Richard Simmons and let the healing begin!
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Ever since the last US federal election it was like Coulter dropped off the face of the Earth...and I liked that just fine.
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Of course Republicans are laughing and cheering as Ann Coulter calls someone a studmuffingot. Why not? If you're gay, its wrong and you're going to burn in a pool of lava anyways.
are you a homophobe?
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oboe... If you believe that there is no difference in the way conservatives and liberals carry on a debate then I have lost a lot of respect for either your powers of observation or your honesty... I agree that you can find examples of a conservative shouting down a liberal but the overwhelming majority of the time it is the liberal "nazis" as you call em... doing the shouting down and angry sign carrying.
I know that aqua is correct that most academics are socialists.. And why not? they have never worked a day in their life.. they don't interact with people except in a very limited way.. they have been coddled in acadamia all their lives and live in a fantasy world of theory... they come up with political ideas and ideals that are utopian and unworkable.. most feel communism is a great idea and that it just hasn't had a fair chance yet. Also.. they are amoung the weakest willed of all of us... they are unable to think for themselves and the victims of peer pressure that has haunted them from the first day they entered school to the day they signed the "man made global warming" contract..
It is a rare one that has the guts to be a conservative or an individualist. They are sheep and sheep.... are socialists. Not all smart people are weak people but almost all academics are.
lazs
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i rest my case.
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so saint... you have a lot of experiance with American academics?
lazs
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One thing about Ann Coulter; you never hear her crying or complaining about the vicious, non-PC attacks against her from the GLTB community (this is where MT gets his "adams apple" remark from, which alludes to a gender issue).
Ann dishes it out, but she also handles the pot shots without complaint. I like her. I think she's funny. I absolutely love how she punches political correctness right in the nose. The fact that she causes a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth from "progressives" is fun to watch. She's a smart cookie. She knows how to sell books and commentary, and the progressives are unwilling participants in this when they react like Pavlov's dogs to the dinner bell.
i think that the term "political correctness" was first used by communists who felt that they had to re-educate people who had ideas and beliefs that were counter to communism. They were "re-educated" until they became politically correct. Not much has changed.
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Did anyone catch the Fox news half our comedy show last night? In the opening bit, Ann Coulter played Rush Limbaugh's vice president :)
I'm guessing that show will never get an emmy:D
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Originally posted by lazs2
so saint... you have a lot of experiance with American academics?
lazs
Funnily enough, i was married to one for 3 years :)
I'll take scientists to decide what's best for my environment over the jesus people any day, thank you.
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Well, here's the deal, Saintaw.
I am a conservative American who's anti-GWB.
I believe birth control is a good thing.
I believe abortion is mostly a bad thing.
I am a Christian, but believe science doesn't necessarily conflict with faith.
I hold a master's degree in education, so am I "academia" enough?
I grew up in a poor rural area and never asked for a handout or favor in anything I ever did, and I don't welcome the snide "we know what's good for you poor, ignorant rednecks" attitude that is so prevalent in the liberal dogma.
I believe in personal freedoms, but am leaning toward gun control because of societal changes.
I hate listening to all political talking heads from both sides of the spectrum, they're too partisan.
I'd like to introduce myself; my name is "Middle America".
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Originally posted by Kieran
Why, I believe you just came this -->][<-- close to calling the GOP and conservative America white trash.
It's the GOP's core demographic.
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lazs,
Both sides do things that bug me, whether its in a debate or the act of protesting. Could be liberals shouting down Jean Kirkpatrick at a speaking engagement or conservatives harrassing women at a outside a women's health clinic, or someone twisting the facts in an essay. I do get tired of it.
One of the things that I think is wrong with America is that we seem to have lost our common sense of decency. Look at this thread - anybody with a lick of sense should know it is as wrong to publicly call Edwards a "studmuffingot" as it would be to for someone to call Obama a "n***r". It is not a question of PC, it's a question of common decency. But look how many posters here laugh it off, defend Coulter and try to change to issue to one of PC and/or freedom of speech. I'm not bent out of shape about it; its just an observation.
Honestly, I see alot more bad behavior from conservatives but maybe that is because they are just more prevalent and/or noticeable. For example, Its no surprise to me Coulter's remarks about Edwards got more attention than Maher's about Cheney. Both were wrong, but Coulter generates more interest and attention. What does Maher even look like?
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i don't think that person has a adam's apple.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Mensa is also Spanish slang for a stupid girl. How fitting.
I wonder if she's finally figured out that Canada didn't fight in the Vietnam War.
ack-ack
in the same program mike also called out oreilly but he lacked the nads and cowered.
typical neo-clown pundits tho, in the end these shills are shown for what they truly are, be it a junky or a sexual predator.
coulture's favourite book is the bible, yet she is forty something and still not married, take it from there.
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ppit for president :)
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Originally posted by oboe
lazs,
One of the things that I think is wrong with America is that we seem to have lost our common sense of decency. Look at this thread - anybody with a lick of sense should know it is as wrong to publicly call Edwards a "studmuffingot" as it would be to for someone to call Obama a "n***r". It is not a question of PC, it's a question of common decency. But look how many posters here laugh it off, defend Coulter and try to change to issue to one of PC and/or freedom of speech. I'm not bent out of shape about it; its just an observation.
And we lost our sense of humor. Coulter was OBVIOUSLY taking more of a shot at the way Hollyweird is using rehab centers as church sanctuaries. Its just to point out the Lefts cause of secularizing America. It was obviously a jab at the Band-aid the left wing wackos put on the Grey's Anatomy cat fight. The same type of sentiment came up in the gay basketball player thread. People wondered if he was going to be shipped off to rehab.
Its almost like the stories you heard of Russia during the cold war.They would send dissenters to hospitals to cure them.
If she just wanted to call Edwards a fowl name, I'm sure she knows some that are more fowl. But then that wouldn't have put the spotlight on the Nazis that would outlaw speech the government deems inappropriate or hateful. Larry Flint diapered himself in an American flag to give Ann Coulter the right to call Edwards a bad name - live with it.
The blog on NewBusters by Noel Sheppard whining about Bill Mayer was no better. "Bill Maher should be fired!" I think Noel Sheppard would make a good liberal. He wants to fire someone for an ideological rant?
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Originally posted by Torque
typical neo-clown pundits tho,
you libbys call every thing you don't like NEO, neo this , neo that, do you even know what the prefix "neo" means?
i think you are a "neo-commie"
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Originally posted by BTW
And we lost our sense of humor. Coulter was OBVIOUSLY taking more of a shot at the way Hollyweird is using rehab centers as church sanctuaries. Its just to point out the Lefts cause of secularizing America. B]
Secularizing America? LMAO!
ack-ack
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I think what bothers the liberals the most is that they feel that they own entertainment... especially comedy..and even more so...political satire.
For the most part.. they do. And.. despite oboes experiance... most of us know how downright mean and angry a lefty comedian can be.
I think what is wrong is that lefties can dish it out but they can't take it. This has been my experiance with em my whole life.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
I think what bothers the liberals the most is that they feel that they own entertainment... especially comedy..and even more so...political satire.
For the most part.. they do. And.. despite oboes experiance... most of us know how downright mean and angry a lefty comedian can be.
I think what is wrong is that lefties can dish it out but they can't take it. This has been my experiance with em my whole life.
lazs
Absolutely right.
I work with women (mostly) in my profession, and it's the same thing... they can say or do anything they like, but let you give back in kind, and WHAMMO! You just have to smile at every dumb joke they make at your expense, and never, EVER return in kind. It's your job if you do.
Maher joking about Cheaney being killed is not as heartless as Coulter's studmuffingot remark? Libs, help me resolve this. It doesn't make any sense, but then I am merely a helpless conservative.
Coulter is a hack and a joke, and anyone taking her comments seriously needs help. Same for Maher. But as Lazs points out, it isn't a level playing field, is it?
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Bigotry makes the world go round :p
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Originally posted by moot
Bigotry makes the world go round :p
i thought it was round bottom girls?
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(talk about yer bumcakes...she's got em)
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Bigotry (aka Intolerance) is the only reason we have cool WWII Planes and Tanks to go "pew pew" with and think we are great fighter pilots.
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John I've given up trying to convince others that my world makes a lot more sense :)
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OK...while I have very strong political views, Ann Coulter, to me, has a seperate standing.
All I would ask is...
Four days, welded inside a Las Vegas hotel VIP suite with Ann, endless booze and room service, and a hot-tub full of Slick-50....with only ONE PROVISION.....
SHE NOT MENTION POLITICS.
If she can't make it, I'll take Sarah Jessica Parker or Gwen Stefani.
Please, Oh Heavenly Being....grant this prayer.
Amen.
68ROX
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I'd hit Ann Coulter.
Twice..
Second time for the "Pisssed Off" sex.
:aok
Mac
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I dunno, she's got too many angles for my taste- pointy nose pointy knees pointy ribs etc. And straight hair! Very linear.
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
The GOP has certainly lost its way. What does the party really stand for? They are anti-science, anti bio-technology, pro-Mexico, pro-China, pro-war, and pro-Christianity.
Of course Republicans are laughing and cheering as Ann Coulter calls someone a studmuffingot. Why not? If you're gay, its wrong and you're going to burn in a pool of lava anyways. Might as well call them a derogatory name while you're at it!
The Republicans do not have a good history of treating other people very well, and that includes poor Republicans. I have no idea why so many people living paycheck to paycheck continue to vote Republican. They are just furthering their own demises.
There is a reason that the majority of professional scientists and academics in the U.S. are Democrat.
Wow, Ann has nothing on you in the hate dept I see.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Mensa is also Spanish slang for a stupid girl. How fitting.
I wonder if she's finally figured out that Canada didn't fight in the Vietnam War.
ack-ack
Bzzzzt, wrong. I proved that several months ago.
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Originally posted by BTW
I dunno, she's got too many angles for my taste- pointy nose pointy knees pointy ribs etc. And straight hair! Very linear.
I think you might be lookin at it from the wrong angle....
:D
Mac
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Originally posted by BTW
I dunno, she's got too many angles for my taste- pointy nose pointy knees pointy ribs etc. And straight hair! Very linear.
Agreed 100%.
If I grab a woman I want something to be there dammit. :aok
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Originally posted by lukster
Bzzzzt, wrong. I proved that several months ago.
Proved what? That Mensa isn't Spanish slang for "Stupid Girl" or the video where she is being interviewed on Canadian TV and asked the host why Canada didn't send troops to Iraq when they sent troops to Vietnam?
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Proved what? That Mensa isn't Spanish slang for "Stupid Girl" or the video where she is being interviewed on Canadian TV and asked the host why Canada didn't send troops to Iraq when they sent troops to Vietnam?
ack-ack
I posted proof that uniformed Canadian troops were sent to Vietnam as "observers" along with quotes from US troops that those troops did in fact do some fighting. Not many perhaps but we are talking about the principle of the thing right?
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Originally posted by john9001
i thought it was round bottom girls?
Nah, round heel girls :)
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Originally posted by oboe
snip
Look at this thread - anybody with a lick of sense should know it is as wrong to publicly call Edwards a "studmuffingot" as it would be to for someone to call Obama a "n***r".
Lick of sense? Heck, you don't even know how to spell "n****r" :)
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Originally posted by 68ROX
All I would ask is...
Four days, welded inside a Las Vegas hotel VIP suite with Ann...
...If she can't make it, I'll take Sarah Jessica Parker...
Why not get Mr. Ed in there too?
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ya really
How much Hay and Blood does Coulter need for 4 days?
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Originally posted by culero
Nah, round heel girls :)
I'm too curious not to ask what you mean.. ?
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Ever since the last US federal election it was like Coulter dropped off the face of the Earth...and I liked that just fine.
You're a Canadian whose unapologetically angry at Americans for whatever bad experience you had as a youth.
Get over it.
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I think her attack on political correctness is great...unfortunately her record on everything else lumps her in with fellow twits like Tucker Carlson.
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Originally posted by culero
I'd hit it :D
Ann Coulter looks like she was rode hard and put away wet.
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Originally posted by LePaul
You're a Canadian whose unapologetically angry at Americans for whatever bad experience you had as a youth.
Get over it.
Oh blow me, thinking Coulter is a meanspirited tard has nothing to do with America or even some bull**** notion of what conservativism is. But nice try trying to make the argument about me being an Amerihater. Jesus.
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Good morning Kieran,
That all sounds fine to me, I wasn't egging you but the local crowd that seems to blame all their illnesses & whatnot on mexicans, muslims and anything out of the southern belt. As I said, have a look around, perhaps you will see how it looks that way from the outside.
And now, to answer a few of your points;
Originally posted by Kieran
I am a conservative American who's anti-GWB.
We share that last bit :)
I believe birth control is a good thing.
Of course
I believe abortion is mostly a bad thing.
I disagree in some cases, but in the light of today's fast-food approach to it, I could agree in some
I hold a master's degree in education, so am I "academia" enough?
To run a school or a buisness? yes. To run a country, not in my eyes.
I grew up in a poor rural area and never asked for a handout or favor in anything I ever did, and I don't welcome the snide "we know what's good for you poor, ignorant rednecks" attitude that is so prevalent in the liberal dogma.
See my answer above
I'd like to introduce myself; my name is "Middle America".
*waves back*
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Saintaw,
Yeah, there's plenty of rhetoric on both sides of the aisle here. I hate it when people grab talking points and spout them without any critical thinking for themselves. Too few true "black and white" issues to make everything as absolute as people try. That just makes us sheep.
I do agree with Lazs's point regarding academics. They can't even run the educational system, let alone the country. The ivory tower crowd does not live in the real world, and does not understand the application of their principles does not always go as planned. A good example would be Johnson's "Great Society". As noble as it was, and as much as it looked at the causes poverty, it ultimately failed. Why?
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what classes do people take to run a country? I watch what happens when they take classes on how to run a city. Until they do it for a decade they are worthless.
Academics are very narrow sighted with very little real experiance and an outsiders hate of the average person. They are the ones who come up with utopia and socialism and communism. I am generalizing of course... hell... I could probly put together some minor degree if I took a few required fill in classes. I am probly the last guy in my field who will not have at least a BS degree. The other one I know of retired a couple of years ago and is making double as a consultant for an engineering firm.
As for polititians... They should never come from the ranks of acadamia.. Nor should the be lawyers or at least... not many of em should.. they should represent a wide spectrum of professions like the founders intended.
There should be no professional politicians.
lazs
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Ann Coulter looks like she was rode hard and put away wet.
Sorry, that was me. I promise next time I take her out I'll wipe her down when I put her away...
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they should represent a wide spectrum of professions like the founders intended.
There should be no professional politicians.
Hehe.. tell that to the French..
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"There should be no professional politicians.'
term limits.
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Term limits, with a peer-chosen core of experienced politicians who are allowed to continue to run for office beyond 2 or 3 terms. 20% of term-expired politicians, voted by their peers as being worthy to fill the role of experienced "adult supervision" and continuity ought to be enough to chair the important comittees and keep things running.
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Originally posted by moot
I'm too curious not to ask what you mean.. ?
Round heels is a term applied to street walkers, they wear out their shoe's a lot, among other things.
shamus
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Originally posted by Kieran
Absolutely right.
Coulter is a hack and a joke, and anyone taking her comments seriously needs help. Same for Maher. But as Lazs points out, it isn't a level playing field, is it?
Coulters comment was planned, delivered, and purposely pointed as a troll to propogate hypocritical response from the Librules who rejoice at comments like Bill Mahr and his Ilk make everyday... AC is a very intelligent women on more levels then any of the men on this BBS and to think otherwise and respond otherwise is just uneducated blabber..
Hypocritical being that with the left its ok to verbally on national tv wish for an assasination attempt on conservative X but its evil to call Librule Y a studmuffing0t when he acts like one and employees nasty people in his campaign who say much worse things then Coulter said..
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I see.. potatos and towelheads..
Thanks Shamus.
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Based on the transcript posted above, Maher never "wished" for the assasination of the VP. He did say that lives would have been saved had he (the VP) died.
Maher - Editorializing
Coulter - Name calling
If you can't see the difference you are blind.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Based on the transcript posted above, Maher never "wished" for the assasination of the VP. He did say that lives would have been saved had he (the VP) died.
Maher - Editorializing
Coulter - Name calling
If you can't see the difference you are blind.
MT - rationalizing
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Ann Coulter is about the female version of Rush Limbaugh. I think both give conservatives a bad name. This reminds me of the time when Rush Limbaugh said something to the effect that Micheal J. Fox was faking his Parkinsons symptoms or playing them up to get more exposure. This just shows me how stupid he is. These two portray a wide stereotype of conservatives as judgmental, opinionated, hollier than thou, know it alls that need to shut up and use those two objects on both sides of their head instead of the hole in the front of their face. I believe it has been known for sometime that the wise man is one who listens more than he talks and posseses a great amount of empathy from which to learn of others situations instead of telling other people how to do things without walking in that persons shoes and believing they know better. Ann Coulter is one of those extreme versions of a conservative but i believe most conservatives posses her basic qualities and the ones i've stated in varying amounts. I have no wonder why consevatives don't respect gay people as real people, don't understand the situation in Iraq and why there is such hatred toward America, don't and are not willing to understand why global warming is or is not occuring, and deny it. It is usually the more liberal people among us that change things, that are willing to understand and accept change rather than chastizing those who are willing to look at the truth for what it is or is not worth without a judgemental heart while keeping their ears open and their mouths shut. No wonder our current president can't understand intelligence, no wonder they don't get Iraq or gay people and use such language, sometimes you can think you know too much. It's slips like these that can really say something about a person or a (group). Things like this usually put me on alert for someone and what they say when they say something you've probably always known all along. You know.... "Ms. Ann Coulter" sometimes you can think you know so much that you can't learn anything else and then one day you realise you know nothing at all. Go's for alot of conservatives too.
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I thought it was funny. Seems no one wants to tell the King he has no clothes on anymore.
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Oh yea Ch 200 just reminds me of American politics and the world in general ........
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Leadpig
Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh are disliked for being outspoken vocal leaders
of the conservative movment, the left should hate\dislike\condemn these two for
being as influential as they are against the librule socialist movement...
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I don't disliked them because they're vocal opinionated and say things i don't agree with. That's one of the few things that's so great about this society, you have the right to expouse your agenda. I respect them for being vocal and opinionated. I look at things differently, i never say i'm right or wrong about anything and then insult and judge about things, i just like to keep my mind open and learn all sides. I just look at everything and say .... well maybe i'm wrong, teach me. I wish more politicians had that attitude.
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Originally posted by T0J0
Leadpig
Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh are disliked for being outspoken vocal leaders
of the conservative movment, the left should hate\dislike\condemn these two for
being as influential as they are against the librule socialist movement...
Isn't Rush Limbaugh a drug addict? What an inspirational vocal leader of the Conservative movement he must be.
ack-ack
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He was addicted to prescription drugs that he had been taking for a painful ailment, apparently this was one of his best forms of relief and in the process he became addicted. If anyone who's had chronic pain conditionsknow they can be hard to diagnose and treat so your're left with two decisions, 1) live with chronic debilitating pain, or 2) take medication, for alot of the people it's so severe and with some medications you can become addicted without hardly even knowing it. I can understand that more than i can understand someone who takes heroin or meth or whatever, but even that has it's circumstances. So i think people bashed Rush Limbaugh for that a little too much, but i think he's an ignorant, overbearing, hollier than thou, blow hard, know it all, that needs to walk in the shoes of some of the people he judges before he says anything, but i'll say that much for him.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Isn't Rush Limbaugh a drug addict? What an inspirational vocal leader of the Conservative movement he must be.
ack-ack
You need some newer ammo, the gunpowders moist and old in that ammo...
The Adams apple ammo is still chic in librule circles. It is more masculine for a librule male to bash an educated women it appears lately...
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*cough*
See what I mean?
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Originally posted by BTW
And we lost our sense of humor. Coulter was OBVIOUSLY taking more of a shot at the way Hollyweird is using rehab centers as church sanctuaries. Its just to point out the Lefts cause of secularizing America. It was obviously a jab at the Band-aid the left wing wackos put on the Grey's Anatomy cat fight. The same type of sentiment came up in the gay basketball player thread. People wondered if he was going to be shipped off to rehab.
I have to laugh at myself here, because I don't think I understand a single idea presented in this paragraph. I'm sorry, BTW. I don't follow basketball or watch Grey's Anatomy (I do know its a TV show though). I'm sure it would make sense if I knew more about the examples.
Hi, Culero.
Lazs, I am surprised to learn you don't have a BS degree. Despite your admission, I don't find you the least bit BS-deficient. Hope you are having a good day.
LEADPIG. You've got guts, kid. And you're wise beyond your years. Don't let it make you cynical.
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Just because you go to college doesn't mean your educated
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Originally posted by T0J0
You need some newer ammo, the gunpowders moist and old in that ammo...
The Adams apple ammo is still chic in librule circles. It is more masculine for a librule male to bash an educated women it appears lately...
C'mon, it was a joke. I would never insult educated women by suggesting that they are like Anne Coulter. That would be mean."
(that one may be too subtle)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
C'mon, it was a joke. I would never insult educated women by suggesting that they are like Anne Coulter. That would be mean."
(that one may be too subtle)
That is actually very funny how you worked that, honestly...
Uncle!
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I won't believe AC is a woman untill I do check her full genotype especially the last 2 pair.
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Originally posted by LEADPIG
Just because you go to college doesn't mean your educated
:aok :rofl
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oboe made a funny? trifle mean spirted but fortunately I am shallow and insensitive sooooo... it has about the same effect on me as when other women do it.
I got no problem with mean humor.. I just think those that dish it out should be able to take it without whining.
my experiance has always been that liberals can't take it.. They always cry "no fair" or "off limits" when it is about them.
In that respect, I find liberals and women to be very similar.
lazs
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Not a bit mean spirited - only good natured ribbing. I felt I know enough about you to know you could take it. I genuinely hope you are having a good day.
Had a bit of bad news yesterday and realized I been taking things too seriously.
Nancy Pelosi threatening to run to Pres Bush and complain about what Dick Cheney said about her might be a good example of what you are talking about. And she's a woman AND a liberal, a double-whammy. I just shook my head when I read that.
And yeah I get the dig insinuating I'm a liberal and a woman.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Based on the transcript posted above, Maher never "wished" for the assasination of the VP. He did say that lives would have been saved had he (the VP) died.
Maher - Editorializing
Coulter - Name calling
If you can't see the difference you are blind.
Not quite true. Bill Maher is smart enough to use another's words to say what he wants to say himself. He can claim he was merely "quoting", not saying it. The intent is the same. He was making a bad joke in an offensive way. And he got a free pass.
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Originally posted by Kieran
Not quite true. Bill Maher is smart enough to use another's words to say what he wants to say himself. He can claim he was merely "quoting", not saying it. The intent is the same. He was making a bad joke in an offensive way. And he got a free pass.
So let me get this straight...
If you quote someone, it is exactly the same as saying it yoursef? And... since you know Maher's mind so well, you are also saying that he brought up the quote, then went to a completely different segment, and then 20 minutes later after it was brought up again by a conservative panelist, discussed it again. Because he set it up that way.
right.
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Wait Kieran you know what Bill Maher means before he means it? Quick, what are my winning lotto numbers.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Oh blow me, thinking Coulter is a meanspirited tard has nothing to do with America or even some bull**** notion of what conservativism is. But nice try trying to make the argument about me being an Amerihater. Jesus.
Eloquent response.
I'd say, based on your tantrum, I was spot on.
Thank you for playing!
;)
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Originally posted by LePaul
Eloquent response.
I'd say, based on your tantrum, I was spot on.
Thank you for playing!
;)
And you dont think you baited him? :)
shamus
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Originally posted by oboe
I have to laugh at myself here, because I don't think I understand a single idea presented in this paragraph. I'm sorry, BTW. I don't follow basketball or watch Grey's Anatomy (I do know its a TV show though). I'm sure it would make sense if I knew more about the examples.
Hi, Culero.
Lazs, I am surprised to learn you don't have a BS degree. Despite your admission, I don't find you the least bit BS-deficient. Hope you are having a good day.
LEADPIG. You've got guts, kid. And you're wise beyond your years. Don't let it make you cynical.
No problem, I don't watch Grey's Anatomy myself. I usually watch the cartoon network. But anyway, at some award ceremony, one of the cast of that edgy, politically correct show made a snide remark about "studmuffingots" or "studmuffins." Everyone in Hollywood was in a tizzy because the show is supposed to be a stellar example of Utopia. It been featured on Oprah TWICE! To have such scandal wouldn't do - but how can such a remark be rectified? Rehab. For what I have no idea, but ship the guy off to rehab and debrief him. It revealed the strategic value of rehab for the Utopian types.
So when a basketball player made a remark about hating homosexuals, it was wondered in the forum if he also would be sent to rehab to be debriefed. And Coulter was alluding to the same thing- if she used a mean term she would be shipped off to rehab to be debriefed or deprogrammed. That was the point of the quip. And now you're up to speed and the roadrunner awaits:D
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Originally posted by T0J0
You need some newer ammo, the gunpowders moist and old in that ammo...
the guy is a convicted drug addict and he's the supposed voice for the Conservative movement, so I think my comments were on the mark and just points to the hypocrisy that some have in here.
The Adams apple ammo is still chic in librule circles. It is more masculine for a librule male to bash an educated women it appears lately...
I've never made any remarks about how she looks, just pointed out that it is ironic that she is a member of an organization that is also the Spanish slang word for a Stupid Girl. It's rather fitting.
also, just because someone is educated, doesn't mean they are smart. She's a very good example.
So, just because I find both Limbaugh and Coulter complete and total idiots that spew nothing but garbage every time they open their mouth paints me as a liberal male?
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
the guy is a convicted drug addict and he's the supposed voice for the Conservative movement, so I think my comments were on the mark and just points to the hypocrisy that some have in here.
I've never made any remarks about how she looks, just pointed out that it is ironic that she is a member of an organization that is also the Spanish slang word for a Stupid Girl. It's rather fitting.
also, just because someone is educated, doesn't mean they are smart. She's a very good example.
So, just because I find both Limbaugh and Coulter complete and total idiots that spew nothing but garbage every time they open their mouth paints me as a liberal male?
ack-ack
Kind of sad isn't it? You don't want a hypocritical drug addicted actor or a hateful, headline seeking ***** representing your views, and that makes you a BAD BAD Liberal.
In my eye it just means you have standards.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
So let me get this straight...
If you quote someone, it is exactly the same as saying it yoursef?
If your intent is to deliver exactly the same message without having to take the blame... yes. I could say in the course of an argument with you that I remember someone calling you a **** eater. Not that I would be doing that myself, you see, I'm just quoting someone else. I think you understand what I'm saying very well.
And... since you know Maher's mind so well, you are also saying that he brought up the quote, then went to a completely different segment, and then 20 minutes later after it was brought up again by a conservative panelist, discussed it again. Because he set it up that way.
right.
I never claimed to "know his mind so well"... I am however quite well versed in the english language and how it can be used as a weapon, something Bill Maher is quite adept at doing.
Have you ever watched Bill Maher? He is one of the most caustic and sensationalistic talk show hosts ever. He is also a comedien who made his chops in political humor. Yes, I believe he knew exactly what he was doing.
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Ann Coulter, Howard Stern, Larry King, Rush Limbaugh, and Art Bell all have one thing in common. They're self promoters. Their shtick is their personality. The stories they use are nothing but tools to promote THEMSELVES. As PT Barnum said, "every crowd has a silver lining."
I find it amusing when conservatives discuss politics and liberal rebut by discussing entertainers.
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Well, a couple of interesting tidbits in the thread...
Suggesting Rush Limbaugh is the voice of conservatives is like saying... I dunno... Jerry Springer is the voice of liberals. And why go there? I mean, honestly, GWB is the head of the right. Truth is worse than fiction.
...then again, Howard Dean is the head of the DNC. Ouch.
Conservatives and liberals alike who are against the out-of-control PC environment chuckled at Ann Coulter's comment, like her or not, because it was funny in the context it was intended.
Many liberals laughed at the Cheaney/bomb comment because they really wish he was dead. Admit it libs, you did chuckle when you heard it.
SO... 'splain to me again about those mean ol' heartless conservatives... who say such nasty things... who are so full of venom...
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Well I contend that Maher (who's show I have seen and enjoyed) brought up the subject to point out the lack of integrity when it comes to free speech in a LIBERAL blog. Cheney may have been the subject, but he wasn't the point.
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Yes, but he managed to say something on air that shouldn't have been said on air, agreed? And you really believe that is totally accidental?
Listen, I don't think he's the voice of the party or anything, he's just entertainment. The point is a conservative would have been fried for doing the same thing, and I think you know that. Liberals have the "sensitivity" thing all locked up, and they don't share.
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Originally posted by LePaul
Eloquent response.
I'd say, based on your tantrum, I was spot on.
Thank you for playing!
;)
aww club him, he's still wigglin.
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Originally posted by BTW
.....And now you're up to speed and the roadrunner awaits:D
They NEVER show the best Loony Tunes--the ones from mid 50's through mid 60's---Chuck McKimson, Friz Freleng, etc:aok
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Well I contend that Maher (who's show I have seen and enjoyed) brought up the subject to point out the lack of integrity when it comes to free speech in a LIBERAL blog. Cheney may have been the subject, but he wasn't the point.
I agree 100% and would be first to suggest Noel Sheppard needs a vacation. To twist that exchange into something threatening was absolutely ridiculous (and whiny). If I didn't see NB above the blog, I'd swear it was the work of often offended liberal. TAKE A VACATION NOEL!
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
the guy is a convicted drug addict and he's the supposed voice for the Conservative movement, so I think my comments were on the mark and just points to the hypocrisy that some have in here.
ack-ack
:rofl God forbid you ever have crippling back pain...
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Originally posted by LEADPIG
............. This reminds me of the time when Rush Limbaugh said something to the effect that Micheal J. Fox was faking his Parkinsons symptoms or playing them up to get more exposure. This just shows me how stupid he is. ..........
Michael J. Fox admitted doing just that, in an interview--he would lay off the meds a bit, to make his symptoms appear even worse, for a tv spot. I wouldn't think it warrants criticism, except that he was using some of the spots to advocate the fetal stem cell issue, which a lot of folks have a problem with
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Originally posted by bj229r
Michael J. Fox admitted doing just that, in an interview--he would lay off the meds a bit, to make his symptoms appear even worse, for a tv spot. I wouldn't think it warrants criticism, except that he was using some of the spots to advocate the fetal stem cell issue, which a lot of folks have a problem with
Linky on that, you have??
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Based on the transcript posted above, Maher never "wished" for the assasination of the VP. He did say that lives would have been saved had he (the VP) died.
Maher - Editorializing
Coulter - Name calling
If you can't see the difference you are blind.
Many lives would have been saved had Clinton been assasinated. That's about the same thing isn't it?
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Originally posted by lukster
Many lives would have been saved had Clinton been assasinated. That's about the same thing isn't it?
Thats certainly a crazy statement. Whos lives?
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Originally posted by lukster
Many lives would have been saved had Clinton been assasinated. That's about the same thing isn't it?
No its not. Its not even close and Noel Sheppard is a fool to try to keep defending his ridiculous contention there was malice in Mahers thought. Maher's thought was purposely neutering the outrageous remarks some made by those suggesting the bomb was "wasted." His thought became, "less lives would be lost if Cheney wasn't VP anymore." Noel Sheppard in his blind rage to attack Maher is guilty of the exact same thing NewsBusters accuse the left wing media of- inventing a story. I don't like it when the left wing media does it and I don't like it when NewsBuster's Noel Sheppard does it. NewsBuster has to stop rationalizing this garbage. Anyone with a meager command of the English language can follow the thought in that exchange. It obviously contained no malice or wish for assassination which is (despite Noel Sheppard's ridiculous denials) implied.
I don't like the fact the Noel Sheppard is campaigning against Maher's job because he doesn't like Maher's politics. That's a Clinton tactic. I DON"T LIKE IT.
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Here's the deal, BTW... if I did a similar thing in MY job, that is, repeat something in public that was stated by someone else, something that inflammatory... I'd be gone.
I could say something like "There are some pretty crazy comments posted on our blog" and get the point across without repeating ON AIR the specific crazy nonsense that gets posted. Agreed?
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Originally posted by Stringer
Linky on that, you have??
After the hearing, our little group of patients and scientists embarked on a tour of the offices of several senators and congressmen. We met with Representative Bill Young, chairman of the House appropriations committee, Representative Jerry Lewis, chairman of the defense appropriations subcommittee, and on the Senate side, (then) Majority Leader Trent Lott (along with a dozen or so Republican senators he'd assembled in his office), and Senator Arlen Specter, chairman of the Senate appropriations subcommittee overseeing NIH. Everyone gave us plenty of time and a respectful hearing. And while the senators didn't come through with any extra appropriations, both chairmen on the House side did end up making specific directives that increased funding for P.D. research.
As Joan and I left the corridors of power we must have looked like a pair of drunken sailors; the day's hectic events had brought our symptoms to full boil, and both of us were a little wobbly. But something else was going on with JoanóI noticed that she was fighting back tears. "Am I missing something?" I said, baffled. "I thought we did pretty well back there."
"Oh, it was fantastic," she said. "It's just that it's always been so hard to get anyone to even listen to us, never mind invite us into their offices." She flashed me a smile. "It's a whole new world."
Snippets of my testimony were featured on several of the nightly news broadcasts. One line in particular from my prepared statement got a lot of play: "In my forties, I can expect challenges most people wouldn't face until their seventies and eighties, if ever. But with your help, if we all do everything we can to eradicate this disease, when I'm in my fifties I'll be dancing at my children's weddings." I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease, and the urgency we as a community were feeling, be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling.
http://www.michaeljfox.org/news/article.php?id=5
I wouldnt blame the guy for that under any other circumstances, but his whole thing has turned into public funding for embryonic stem cell research--Pro-lifers wanna pay for THAT about as much as Bill Mahr wants to join the US Marines
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Originally posted by bj229r
http://www.michaeljfox.org/news/article.php?id=5
I wouldnt blame the guy for that under any other circumstances, but his whole thing has turned into public funding for embryonic stem cell research--Pro-lifers wanna pay for THAT about as much as Bill Mahr wants to join the US Marines
Not bad, but your quote was from a Senate hearing in 1999.
oops.
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Thats certainly a crazy statement. Whos lives?
Okay, cheap shot, but I gotta take it.
Vince Foster.
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Originally posted by Kieran
Suggesting Rush Limbaugh is the voice of conservatives is like saying... I dunno... Jerry Springer is the voice of liberals. And why go there? I mean, honestly, GWB is the head of the right. Truth is worse than fiction.
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Outspoken Vocal leader of conservatism is what I wrote... Suggesting that he is not is just you wanting to argue, look at the size of Rush's audience and Market share and then re-evaluate honestly... Or if Rush wasn't at all influential why does he get targeted by the Librule media so often....
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Originally posted by Kieran
Here's the deal, BTW... if I did a similar thing in MY job, that is, repeat something in public that was stated by someone else, something that inflammatory... I'd be gone.
I could say something like "There are some pretty crazy comments posted on our blog" and get the point across without repeating ON AIR the specific crazy nonsense that gets posted. Agreed?
HBO didn't hire Bill Maher so he wouldn't make waves. The rules that govern most people in this world, don't imply to entertainers. Rush Limbaugh would have a boring show if he was afraid to step on toes. But thats besides the point. Noel Sheppard created this story where there was no story. Its the exact same thing that NewsBusters accuses the New York Times of doing everyday. If NewsBusters is going to set themselves up as unbiased, the can't print garbage like Noel Sheppard's exercise in obfuscation. And then when confronted with the fact that he created the story, Noel Sheppard insults his readers and claim they misread it. Its all so liberal.
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Originally posted by T0J0
Outspoken Vocal leader of conservatism is what I wrote... Suggesting that he is not is just you wanting to argue, look at the size of Rush's audience and Market share and then re-evaluate honestly... Or if Rush wasn't at all influential why does he get targeted by the Librule media so often....
I will agree he is outspoken but a leader? Not really.
He is an entertainer. And a good one at that.
As far as the liberal media goes they will attack anyone who disagrees with their liberal point of view.
Plus he is the compitition and they cannot stand the fact that a none liberal is doing so well in the entertainment business.
And before anyone starts I do not agree with a lot of what Rush says but he is funny to listen to at times.
He has a gift of pissing liberals off with the truth.
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whatever happened to Al, Al Franken?
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Originally posted by T0J0
Outspoken Vocal leader of conservatism is what I wrote... Suggesting that he is not is just you wanting to argue, look at the size of Rush's audience and Market share and then re-evaluate honestly... Or if Rush wasn't at all influential why does he get targeted by the Librule media so often....
It's not me wanting to argue, it's a fact. He is not the leader of the conservative movement. He is an entertainer. I can't account for the tastes of his audience.
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Originally posted by john9001
whatever happened to Al, Al Franken?
http://www.alfranken.com/
He's gonna be the next Senator from Minnesota.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Not bad, but your quote was from a Senate hearing in 1999.
oops.
That was what Rush referred to when he said Fox 'exaggerated' his disease to get more sympathy for his cause---As I said, if he was just trying to get more funds for Parkinson's Disease...more power to him. But he and his allies, rightly or wrongly, have been pushing fetal cell research since the early 90's, and a LOT of people have a problem with having to pay for it.
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Bj, the fact is this... Parkinson's sucks. Why in the world would Fox gloss it over and take meds that make it look, you know, not so sucky?
Even though I have a problem with embryonic stem cell research, I cannot fault MJF for showing the true face of Parkinson's. Seems honest to me. It's worthy of debate. To be honest, there are ways it could be done that would satisfy the opposition on the right.
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Ann is rich, her books are all best sellers, and she sells out speaking engagements.
Something is working for her.
Libbies are just jealous.
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Thats certainly a crazy statement. Whos lives?
The 3000 that were killed in the 9/11 attack. If Clinton hadn't been around or sat on his fat cigar after the '93 attack on the WTC and other terrorist attacks those 3000 might be alive today.
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The 3000 that were killed in the 9/11 attack. If Clinton hadn't been around or sat on his fat cigar after the '93 attack on the WTC and other terrorist attacks those 3000 might be alive today.
OMG... i've sat here and read some amazing S*** over the years on these boards but that is the most asinine thing i have EVER heard.
Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman is serving life in a maximum security federal prision... Where's Osama?
Pubs accused Clinton of making much ado about nothing to divert attention away from the Lewinski scandal when he ordered Tomahawk strikes in Afghanistan....
And lets not forget who's squealing watch it was when 9/11 went down... Maybe if Bush hadn't already taken MORE VACATION DAYS in the first 9 months of his Presidency than Clinton and Bush Sr. did COMBINED over their ENTIRE presidencies those 3000 people would still be alive.
Give me a freaking break.
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Originally posted by DYNAMITE
OMG... i've sat here and read some amazing S*** over the years on these boards but that is the most asinine thing i have EVER heard.
Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman is serving life in a maximum security federal prision... Where's Osama?
Pubs accused Clinton of making much ado about nothing to divert attention away from the Lewinski scandal when he ordered Tomahawk strikes in Afghanistan....
And lets not forget who's squealing watch it was when 9/11 went down... Maybe if Bush hadn't already taken MORE VACATION DAYS in the first 9 months of his Presidency than Clinton and Bush Sr. did COMBINED over their ENTIRE presidencies those 3000 people would still be alive.
Give me a freaking break.
Hmm Who's watch was it when the Cole was hit?
How about the Kobar towers?
Maybe the embassy bombings?
If the fat pant load went after those people like he did his own countrymen.
Can you say Ruby Ridge/Waco.
Just maybe a few more enemies of the US would be dead now. Possibly denighed the possibility of 911 ever happening.
Yea I need a break as well after reading your post.
Bronk
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Hmm Who's watch was it when the Cole was hit? How about the Kobar towers? Maybe the embassy bombings?
What about Madrid... and London (Twice)... or the Bali night club bombings... or the acts of terror that occur daily in Iraq...the list goes on and on.
Tragedies all... with out a doubt.
I'm stopping here... we can keep going back and forth but there is no point. If it makes ya feel better to blame Clinton alone for the worlds problems, then have at it...
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Originally posted by DYNAMITE
What about Madrid... and London (Twice)... or the Bali night club bombings... or the acts of terror that occur daily in Iraq...the list goes on and on.
Tragedies all... with out a doubt.
I'm stopping here... we can keep going back and forth but there is no point. If it makes ya feel better to blame Clinton alone for the worlds problems, then have at it...
Once again IF fat arse went after terrorists during his time in office.
All those might not have happened.
But since he left it for a later president , he gets to deal with it.
Nice try though.
Bronk
Edit: I don't just blame BC. Carter was soft on em as was Regan.
Carter should have flattened parts Iran for the kidnappings.
RR should have retaliated in a HUGE way for the Marine Barracks bombing.
This country just loves to get kicked in the nads and do nothing about it.
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But since he left it for a later president , he gets to deal with it.
I can't decide if I should envy you and your myopic view of the world, or just pity you...
Nice try though :lol
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Originally posted by DYNAMITE
I can't decide if I should envy you and your myopic view of the world, or just pity you...
Nice try though :lol
Personally I don't care. Your just another apologist for the pant load.
And for that I pity you.
Bronk
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I take it we've become fussy.
hap
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Originally posted by DYNAMITE
OMG... i've sat here and read some amazing S*** over the years on these boards but that is the most asinine thing i have EVER heard.
Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman is serving life in a maximum security federal prision... Where's Osama?
Pubs accused Clinton of making much ado about nothing to divert attention away from the Lewinski scandal when he ordered Tomahawk strikes in Afghanistan....
And lets not forget who's squealing watch it was when 9/11 went down... Maybe if Bush hadn't already taken MORE VACATION DAYS in the first 9 months of his Presidency than Clinton and Bush Sr. did COMBINED over their ENTIRE presidencies those 3000 people would still be alive.
Give me a freaking break.
If you're a Clinton supporter no way in hell will I give you a break unless you offer an extremity. ;) Clinton most definitely was as responsibile for 9/11 as any American could be.
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the fact that women and gays and "artists" flock to the democratic party is the real reason for what we see... it has shaped their persona..
Just like women and gays and entertainers... they can dish out the most vile and mean "satire" and "comedy" ever heard... very "adult" stuff.
But when someone does the same to them they go into a weepy, hysterical fit.
lazs
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True, both parties "personas" are shaped by their membership. Homophobes, misogynists, racists, wifebeaters, prescription drug addicts, and one-legged harmless bald wheelgun enthusiasts have flocked to the GOP, and look where they are now.
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See Rule #5
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See Rule #5
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See Rule #2, #5
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This one is done.